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Default 9/11 – WTC, controlled demolitions, computer animation

When I came home on 11 September 2001. I automatically turned on the telescreen and couldn’t believe my eyes. I saw an airplane flying towards the Twin towers, then - just BEFORE it hit - explosions came from the building and the airplane didn’t crash onto the building, but disappeared into it, then came a similar scene with the second tower. At that time I thought it would be impossible for anybody with half a brain to believe this bull.
I have searched the internet for hours for the original video I saw on 11 September 2001, but without success.


Special effects – planes WTC
See a collection of videos with or without airplanes that show they are fake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlQjPOksaR8

In all of the videos and photographs there are no debris at all from the planes crashing in the World Trade Center. If they would have crashed against the building flying at a speed of 500 miles an hour, then exploding, then debris of the planes would have been found for miles around (causing damage). See a famous picture of the second “plane” crashing into the South tower, a fireball but no part of a plane.


Standard defence procedures would have made it impossible for a commercial airplane to go off route without being escorted by military planes. Certainly after the first plane hit the North tower, the second airplane would’ve been shot down before impact.
The Pentagon even has defence missiles that would have shot any airplane down before coming near (all of these army exercises wouldn’t change these procedures). If a Muslim “terrorist” group would succeed in hijacking 4 planes at once, they would have done something different, like a long-term hostage situation.

George Bush on at least 3 occasions told the press that he saw the first plane hit the WTC “live“ before he entered a classroom in Florida to entertain some children (for the record: the first plane flying in the Twin towers, wasn’t shown live on any TV network), here’s a video of one of these instances: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCtb9nlV_20

The following site was made by somebody with knowledge of Computer Generated Images (CGI). He makes it look easy to create the special effects of the planes in the WTC: http://acebaker.blogspot.nl/2008/05/...omposites.html

The following report is a bit longish (54 pages), but it does make it clear that no planes flew in the WTC on 9/11 - Morgan Reynolds, Plane Deceit at the World Trade Center (2008): https://morganreynolds.files.wordpre...nce_vol_iv.pdf


Controlled demolition Twin Towers
On July 28, 1945 a B-25 bomber crashed into the 78th and 79th floors of the Empire State building, killing 14 people (of which 11 office workers). The building didn’t collapse. This is not comparable to the plane crashes we’ve been told about on 9/11, because these planes would be much larger.
One engine shot through the building and flew to the next block, where it crashed on another building. The resulting fire was extinguished in 40 minutes. The bulk of the wreckage remained stuck in the side of the building. Some debris from the crash fell to the streets, but most fell onto the buildings setbacks at the fifth floor.
Here’s a photograph of the hole after the plane crash.


Here’s a plane part that fell down on 34th street.


The following book chapters 3, 4 and 5 (I don’t recommend the rest of the book, unless you’re interested in satanic and freemasonry symbolism) is the best I’ve seen about that the twin towers couldn’t have fallen down the way they did because of (kerosene from) the airplanes: http://themurkynews.blogspot.nl/

Just think about it: a plane is designed as light as possible, while the whole WTC complex was designed to resist an airplane crash. That kerosene fuel fire couldn’t destroy the whole building, is apparent: kerosene burns at a relatively low temperature (we wouldn’t want the airplane motor to burn mid-air, would we?).
There are a few examples of buildings that were almost completely burned by fire, but remained standing.

Here’s an interview from 1988 of structural engineer Charlie Thornton, who explains that if a plane would crash into the WTC, this wouldn’t destroy the whole building: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Z_X8xgrF8&amp

Here are 3 pictures of the collapse of the Twin towers. These should prove that after the top of the buildings collapsed the lower floors were crushed down by the top floors. If this shows anything else than that it’s a fake computer animation, it would be that the top of the towers would fall sideways, next to WTC-1 and WTC-2.



Witnesses controlled demolition
There are even examples of witnesses that unknowingly heard the demolition explosions go off.

Email eye witness Neil deGrasse Tyson 12 September 2001:
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As more and more and more and more and more emergency vehicles descended on the World Trade Center, I hear a second explosion in WTC 2, then a loud, low-frequency rumble that precipitates the unthinkable -- a collapse of all the floors above the point of explosion. First the top surface, containing the helipad, tips sideways in full view. Then the upper floors fall straight down in a demolition-style implosion, taking all lower floors with it, even those below the point of the explosion.
(...)
I decide it's time to get my daughter, who was taken by the parents of a friend of hers to a small office building, six blocks farther from the WTC than my apartment. As I dress for survival: boots, flashlight, wet towels, swimming goggles, bicycle helmet, gloves, I hear another explosion followed by a now all-too familiar rumble that signaled the collapse of WTC 1, the first of the two towers to have been hit. I saw the iconic antenna on this building descend straight down in an implosion twinning the first.
Firefighter Richard Banaciski:
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[T]here was just an explosion [in the south tower]. It seemed like on television [when] they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions.
Firefighter Louie Cacchioli:
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Tommy Hetzel was with me and everybody else also gets out of the elevator when it stops on the 24th floor. There was a huge amount of smoke. Tommy and I had to go back down the elevator for tools and no sooner did the elevators close behind us, we heard this huge explosion that sounded like a bomb. (…)
When I began to try and direct down, another huge explosion like the first one hits. This one hits about two minutes later, although it's hard to tell
Michael Benfante:
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As I was leaving, I heard it. I looked back, and the top of the North Tower was exploding.
Emergency medical technician Gregg Brady:
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I heard 3 loud explosions. I look up and the north tower is coming down now.
Firefighter Craig Carlsen:
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I guess about three minutes later you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions.
Chief Frank Cruthers:
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There was what appeared to be at first an explosion. It appeared at the very top, simultaneously from all four sides, materials shot out horizontally. And then there seemed to be a momentary delay before you could see the beginning of the collapse.
NBC News’ Pat Dawson:
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The Chief of Safety of the Fire Department of New York City told me that shortly after 9:00 he had roughly ten alarms, roughly 200 men, trying to effect rescues of some of those civilians who were in there, and that basically he received word of a secondary device, that is another bomb, going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said that there was another explosion which took place. And then an hour after the first hit here, the first crash, that took place, he said there was another explosion that took place in one of the towers here. So obviously, according to his theory, he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building.
One of the secondary devices, he thinks, that [detonated] after the initial impact he thinks may have been on the plane that crashed into one of the towers. The second device, he thinks, he speculates, was probably planted in the building. So that’s what we have been told by Albert Terry, who is the Chief of Safety for the New York City Fire Department.
Paramedic Kevin Darnowski:
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I heard three explosions, and then we heard like groaning and grinding, and tower two started to come down.
WTC-2 survivor Tom Elliott:
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Although its spectacularly televised impact was above Elliott, at first he and those around him thought an explosion had come from below. An incredible sound – he calls it an ‘exploding sound’ – shook the building and a tornado of hot air and smoke and ceiling tiles and bits of drywall came flying up the stairwell. “In front of me, the wall split from the bottom up”
BBC’s Steve Evans:
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I was at the base of the second tower, the second tower that was hit. There was an explosion – I didn’t think it was an explosion – but the base of the building shook. I felt it shake … then we were outside, the second explosion happened and then there was a series of explosions….We can only wonder at the kind of damage – the kind of human damage – which was caused by those explosions, those series of explosions
Mayor Rudolph Giuliani in a 9/11 news conference acknowledges explosions in the area of the World Trade Center and says he does not believe they were gas related -
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...we've turned off the gas in the city buildings just to be certain, as a precaution.
Firefighter Lt. Paul Isaac Jr.:
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Many other firemen know there were bombs in the buildings, but they are afraid for their jobs to admit it because the higher-ups forbid discussion of this fact. There were definitely bombs in those buildings
Firefighter Timothy Julian:
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First I thought it was an explosion. I thought maybe there was a bomb on the plane, but delayed type of thing, you know secondary device. . . . I just heard like an explosion and then a cracking type of noise, and then it sounded like a freight train, rumbling and picking up speed, and I remember I looked up, and I saw it coming down.
Sue Keane Fire Police Department:
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It sounded like bombs going off. That’s when the explosions happened. . . . I knew something was going to happen. . . . It started to get dark, then all of a sudden there was this massive explosion.
(…)
[There was] another explosion. That sent me and the two firefighters down the stairs. . . . I can’t tell you how many times I got banged around. Each one of those explosions picked me up and threw me. . . . There was another explosion, and I got thrown with two firefighters out onto the street.
WTC-2 victim Edmund McNally:
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Liz, this was a terrorist attack. I can hear explosions below me.
Ross Milanytch:
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small explosions on each floor
Firefighter Schroeder:
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The elevators just blew right out. We couldn’t believe it. The plane hits 80 floors up but the elevators explode at least five minutes later? It was unreal. (…)
We were tossed like a rag doll by another explosion in our building. People were making there way down the stairwells burnt like you couldn’t believe.
Firefighter Angel Rivera:
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That’s when hell came down. It was like a huge, enormous explosion. . . . The wind rushed. . . , all the dust. . . and everything went dark.
Paramedic Daniel Rivera:
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It was a frigging noise. At first I thought it was—do you ever see professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear ‘Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop’? That’s exactly what–because I thought it was that. When I heard that frigging noise, that’s when I saw the building coming down.
Jose Sanchez said that he heard a big blast that "sounded like a bomb

Ann Thompson of NBC heard an explosion and a wall of debris came toward her. She took refuge in a building. When she came out again about 10:30, she heard a second explosion.

Fire department’s Albert Turi received word of a secondary device, that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said there was another explosion which took place, and then an hour after the first hit - the first crash that took place - he said there was another explosion that took place in one of the towers here, so obviously according to his theory he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building.

Firefighter Thomas Turilli:
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it almost sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like seven or eight.
North tower survivor Teresa Veliz:
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The explosions were going off everywhere. I was convinced that there were bombs planted all over the place and someone was sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons. I was afraid to go down Church Street towards Broadway, but I had to do it. I ended up on Vesey Street. There was another explosion. And another.
Firefighter Stephen Viola:
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You heard like loud booms . . . and then we got covered with rubble and dust, and I thought we’d actually fallen through the floor . . . because it was so dark you couldn’t see anything.
Lieutenant William Wall:
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[W]e heard an explosion. We looked up and the building was coming down right on top of us.
Kim White:
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We got all our people on the floor into the stairwell . . . at that time we all thought it was a fire . . .We got down as far as the 74th floor . . . then there was another explosion.
The previous quotes are from:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WR...yewitness.html
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/l....php?t459.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WR...efighters.html
http://www.911truth.org/explosive-te...ral-histories/

Here’s a video of fireman Jay Jonas telling an amazing story. “We” were in WTC-1 in “this little pocket in this stairway between the fourth and the second floor” when the building collapsed. He also tells that he will never forget the amazing sound from inside the building.
Are all firemen in New York born on Krypton? The sound would be loud enough to go deaf. When they would hear the sound of the building tumbling down they had already lost valuable time, then they’d have to turn around (fast), and in their special (superman) suits (not suitable for a 100 meter sprint) they would have needed more than 10 seconds to get out of the building and get to a safe distance from WTC-1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=0CvVNj5vrM8

The following video is even more bizarre.
First we see 2 firemen covered in dust. The black fireman tells they were in WTC-1 when they first heard 2 explosions and with “The third explosion the whole lobby collapsed on us” (the whole building collapsed on them). He tells they got out the building after it fell on top of them. They don’t look badly injured (crushed) to me. The white one has something like a (fake) bloody nose.
Then a third fireman at 1:10 tells “We saw a black very large airplane fly right into the second building” and “We were in the building for the third collapse”. Is this one of the “reliable” witnesses that testified seeing the second plane fly into the Twin Towers? This fireman tells he was in the building for the third collapse (so WTC-7). This is the third fire superman that got out of a building that collapsed on him, without getting seriously hurt.


On the following link are a lot of (short) videos that show that witnesses heard (secondary) explosions that weren´t caused by the “planes”. This were the explosions that really caused WTC-1, WTC-2 and WTC-7 to collapse.
There are also some witnesses that describe seeing (and feeling) a fireball just when the building collapsed. But I don´t know how this is relevant: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WR...implosion.html

I’ve found more testimonies of people that witnessed explosions at the WTC, and actually thought that it were these explosions that brought the Twin Towers down.
The following video also features some “experts”, who say that it was obviously explosions that took the Twin Towers down in a controlled demolition.
https://youtu.be/fTglkuffB0E

The following PDF, features the testimonies of 118 fire-fighters (of the 503 firemen interviewed) that witnessed explosions, starting with Richard Banaciski and ending with Daniel Williams.
Some of the words used to describe what they witnessed are: explosion, blast, blow up, bomb, implosion, and demolition.
These are only witness testimonies on WTC-1 and WTC-2 (so nothing on WTC-7 in this report)...

Following is a selection of witness testimonies about more than 1 explosion before the collapse of the towers started.
Quote:
(4) Brady, Gregg (9110184)
North Tower:
“We were standing underneath and Captain Stone was speaking again. We heard — I heard 3 loud explosions. I look up and the north tower is coming down now, 1 World Trade Center....At that time, when I heard the 3 loud explosions, I started running west on Vesey Street towards the water.” [p. 7]
(…)

(8) Campagna, Frank (9110224)
North Tower:
“That’s when it went. I looked back. You see three explosions and then the whole thing coming down. I turned my head and everybody was scattering.” [p. 8]

(9) Carlsen, Craig (9110505)
South Tower:
“I guess about three minutes later you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. At the time I didn’t realize what it was. We realized later after talking and finding out that it was the floors collapsing to where the plane had hit. We then realized the building started to come down.” [p. 6]
North Tower:
The second one coming down, you knew the explosions. Now you’re very familiar with it.” [p. 10]
(…)

(71) Murphy, Keith (9110323)
South Tower: [As experienced from the ground floor of the North Tower]
“I had heard right before the lights went out, I had heard a distant boom boom boom, sounded like three explosions. I don’t know what it was. At the time, I would have said they sounded like bombs, but it was boom boom boom and then the lights all go out. I hear someone say oh, shit, that was just for the lights out.
I would say about 3, 4 seconds, all of a sudden this tremendous roar. It sounded like being in a tunnel with the train coming at you.
(…)

(111) Turilli, Thomas (9110501)
South Tower: [This appears to be at, or just before, the collapse of the South Tower. They are in the North Tower and have just sent some men up in the elevator.]
“The door closed, they went up, and it just seemed a couple seconds and all of a sudden you just heard like it almost actually that day sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like seven or eight, and then just a huge wind...” [p. 4]
[They get down the stairs.] “At that point we were kind of standing on the street and I looked to my left and actually I noticed the tower was down. I didn’t even know what it was when we were in there. It just seemed like a huge explosion.” [p. 6]
http://www.ae911truth.org/images//PD...8Witnesses.pdf
(archived here: http://archive.is/EJqLa)
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Animation mistakes – King Kong?
The following photograph shows an in perspective 13 feet (4 meters) tall giant. The windows aren’t the right proportions either.


For added drama videos of jumpers were shown. The following still shows a giant jumper of 21 feet (6.4 meter).


The North face of the building is… in the sunlight.


The following shows some people working in the rubble at ground zero. A, B and D seem at a similar position towards each other in both pictures; C has been animated at another spot.



Here’s a picture taken from live footage from FOX News on 9/11 without a renovated rooftop that had been finished in March 2001.


Here’s a picture of a hole in the Twin Towers. This hole looks impossibly fake. In close ups of this hole, you can even see some people that are standing in the incredible heat that would make the buildings collapse.
Edna Cintron has been identified as the woman inside the hole (in the red square) waving.


Following is a street view taken live on 11 September 2001, reportedly shot by an amateur (************/bartbelle) and the real street view. Pay special attention to the wrong placement of buildings A and B and the 2 white spots without pixels.


I’ve even found the video from which this last shot came: http://letsrollforums.com/showpost.p...&postcount=313
Here’s the direct link to the video (from 9:14-9:16 the white buildings can be seen): https://youtu.be/rnaESs34G4w

I’ve also found some more obvious video fakery here; most of it is real easy to spot: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=386

Here’s an interesting picture with the side of the building not straight but with some glitches.



Live broadcasts – CNN, FOX
I watched 2 Youtube live broadcast of September 11, 2001. This doesn’t include the video I saw myself on 9/11 of both planes crashing in the Twin Towers and both towers collapsing from a low angle. I found some surprises.

From the “live” show on CNN (started just after the first plane hit the North Tower)
From 6:38 – 6:47 an eyewitness tells that the explosion came from inside the building (it wasn’t hit by a plane). From then on we only hear eyewitnesses over the phone.
They do show the second plane flying “live” at 15:12, then to another view at 15:14 (courtesy WABC), and then the explosion at 15:16, they show this again from another view, camera some time later, but not from an angle that shows the plane disappearing, crashing into the building.
They don’t show the South tower collapsing live at 1:10:09, but only 6 1/2 minutes later. When they show the first collapse (the South tower) 1:16:45 -1:17:00 it still doesn’t show the top of the building (falling sideways), but the whole tower is hidden by what looks like white smoke (the North tower collapse is not shown in this video). It appears that the fire in the Pentagon was used as a diversion, to not show the collapse “live”.
Where you’d expect the (incredibly hot) fire fuelled by kerosene to spread in an hour, there is a lot of black smoke, but almost no flames: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsIWPPw-JzU

From the “live” show on FOX News (started just after the first plane hit the North Tower).
This doesn’t show the second plane hitting the South tower live but only an explosion at 10:30 (so FOX started their broadcast almost 5 minutes before CNN?). At 16:55 – 17:05 (5 minutes later) this plane is “shown” (impossible to get a good look at precisely 16:55) hitting the South tower from an angle that obscures the crash of the plane against, into the building.
Also the collapse of the South tower at 1:07:30 (so now they´re only 2 ½ minutes before CNN) isn’t shown live, but only 10 minutes later 1:17:30 a lot of smoke is seen, but nothing of the building. At 1:35:54 there is a lot of white smoke, that is supposedly the collapse of the North tower “live”, only at 1:39:18 this is shown in a better view, but the top of the building is completely obscured from view by white smoke.
From 1:31:30 – 1:32:00 terrorism expert Skip Brandon already tells that the Al Qaeda of Osama Bin Laden is probably responsible for this terrorist attack.
Also here we can see a lot of black smoke but (almost) no flames, not even talking about the fire not spreading: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51oNuVlSJqA


Controlled demolition WTC-7 – Silverstein, BBC, WCBS, Jowenko
While the official explanation of the implosion of the Twin Towers is ridiculous, I can at least understand the explanation. For WTC-7 it’s not even claimed that it was hit by a plane, but collapsed anyway.

Larry Silverstein (at the time the owner of the whole WTC complex) has even admitted that he ordered to “pull” it. On September 11, 2002 Larry Silverstein in front of the cameras of PBS admitted said:
Quote:
I remember getting a call from the...er...fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.
Of course Silverstein couldn’t have made the decision to demolish WTC-7 if the explosives weren’t placed in the building in advance: http://www.serendipity.li/wot/swissreletter.htm

I’ve found a nice video in which 2 explosions - less than a second apart – can be heard directly before the collapse of WTC-7 (including witnesses that describe the sound as “ba-boom”). Here it is (from 1:08 – 1:58 the explosions can be heard, and witnesses confirm explosions). From 5:44 – 5:54 an official of the fire department tells that they knew that the building (WTC-7) would come down (or would be taken down): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERhoNYj9_fg

Interestingly ‘lucky’ Larry Silverstein told that the plans for the new WTC-7 were already made in April 2000. Because the asbestos would have to be removed before a demolition would be allowed this would be expensive (for the whole WTC complex an estimated 200 million dollars): http://www.mintpressnews.com/911-lar...ttacks/214821/

Here’s the video where Silverstein tells about the plans from April 2000 (he doesn’t mention about plans for the removal of asbestos): https://youtu.be/j-_WYHwUtcI
The complete video from which this was taken is also worthwhile (from 59:00 – 59:13 he tells about the plans from April 2000). Silverstein tells amongst others how he beat the insurance companies (with the help of his good friend that became governor): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUvLCzk7nh4

Jane Standley of the BBC reported that WTC-7 (the Salomon Brothers building), confirmed by BBC News 24, had collapsed, 24 minutes before it happened (ironically the WTC-7 building is seen in the background still standing: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WR...c7_videos.html

Here’s the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677i43QfYpQ

The BBC apologised that they had obviously made a mistake. Then WCBS announced that WTC building 7 might have collapsed and showed the collapse”live”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=Con-AcEsTFY

Even the “live” footage of the collapse of WTC-7 looks fake.
Also look at the brown building on the left, look the shadow (computer animated, with a low resolution).
Now carefully watch the top of the building: first something on the left falls down, then something black moves to the right, and decides to go a small part back to the left.
Then while the building falls down, the front right of the building remains vertical while the left side expands to the left (impossible because according to the right side it falls straight down). Here it is.


A demolition expert from the Netherlands, Danny Jowenko, didn’t get much attention from the mainstream media, but has achieved some notoriety in 9/11 conspiracy circles. Jowenko was shown a video of the demolition of WTC-7, to tell the obvious conclusion that this was a controlled demolition done by team of experts.
When he’s told that this demolition occurred on September 11, 2001 he asks with undisguised amazement on the same day? (op dezelfde dag?). After that he tells some more obvious things that on the surface aren’t really that great, but he makes a sound impression. Because of asbestos a demolition would be illegal.
Jowenko died in a suspicious car crash in July 2011 (the video is in Dutch with English subtitles): http://www.infowars.com/expert-who-c...-car-accident/
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WTC-6
A lot of people don’t even know that besides the Twin Towers, also WTC-7 (also a very high building) imploded on the same day. The destruction of the 8-story WTC-6 (the US Customs House) has been completely ignored by the state media. According to the official story it was evacuated directly after the first plane hit the North Tower and before the second plane hit the South Tower.
WTC-6 lay between the North Tower and WTC 7. WTC-6 didn’t implode like the Twin Towers and WTC-7, but only the middle of the building was demolished. Pictures after the collapse of the Twin Towers show a gigantic hole in the middle of building 6. This must have been caused by (another) explosion. The official story claims that this was caused by debris from the North Tower as it collapsed.


Here’s another picture of WTC-6 with the hole in the middle.


At the time the South Tower exploded because of a "plane", at 9:03 AM, a light cloud plume is seen coming from WTC-6 in the broadcast of CNN. I’ve checked out the “live” footage of CNN that I posted earlier, but couldn’t find this plume. They synchronised this explosion with the explosion from the South Tower, so the sound would be hidden. The best information I found on WTC-6 is from Christopher Bollyn: http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/...losion-on-911/



Before the North Tower collapsed WTC-6 already looks severely damaged in a photo of Bill Biggart.
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Hlaava and Naudet videos
I’ve found 2 videos that reportedly show the first plane crash into the Twin Towers on 9/11. In both of these videos no huge plane can be seen. Is this definitive evidence that no plane crashed into the North Tower?
According to numerous English language sites the Naudet video is one of 2 videos that caught the first plane crashing into the Twin Towers. I have repeatedly watched the Pavel Hlava video (which is the reported other) without spotting the first plane hitting the North Tower.
According to this Dutch Wikipedia site the Naudet video is one of three recordings that caught the first plane crashing into the WTC North Tower: “Jules Naudet draaide om het vliegtuig te zien en maakte daarbij een van de drie opnamen van het eerste vliegtuig dat de WTC-noordtoren binnenvloog” - https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_...C3%A9on_Naudet

The beginning of the video of Pavel Hlava, which was mysteriously discovered about a year after 9/11 and supposedly shows the first plane crashing into the WTC, looks animated.
See the picture of the opening shot below where both the cars and buildings look animated: https://youtu.be/H-UARS5F414



The story is that on September 11, 2001 the brothers Naudet were coincidentally filming the fire brigade as they went to search for a gas leak, when they film the first plane crashing into the North Tower in a moment of pure genius camerawork. They were standing on Duane St, in one of those strange coincidences - an anagram of Naudets…
It was aired (for the first time?) 6 months later on March 10, 2002 in the propaganda movie 9/11, presented by Robert De Niro. It won multiple awards including an Emmy; it has been updated every 5 years to include newer, improved propaganda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_(film)

According to the following story (only) part of the Naudet “documentary” is fiction: http://web.archive.org/web/201509161...s_09_2004.html

Here’s a Simon Shack video, including parts of the Naudet video (below are screenprints from the video). I only analysed in detail the some 20 seconds before the first plane hits WTC-1 and the 20 seconds after that.
The complete video of Shack analyses the obvious mistakes in the computer animated fakery of 9/11, but for me it’s just too long (almost 2 hours): https://youtu.be/vD_IgCKpNrY

I will describe what I see illustrated with 9 screenprints including a description of the obvious anomalies (glitches) I see. My screenprints include the timestamps so that you can skip to this section.

1. First look at the shadows in the opposite direction from where the sun comes from.
Behind the main fireman (clack cap) at the corner of the street is a white spot glitch – no pixels – later this takes the form of 2 humans.
Also between the black cap fireman and the white hat is a white glitch in the window.


2. Then we hear a plane and the computer animations look to the sky. Why is the CGI with the white hat looking in the direction of the camera?
The white people without pixels suddenly appear to be humans strolling around.
At the end of the street (in the direction of the camera, behind the cars) is a great nothing void (no pixels), that later become 3 buildings.


3. The white glitch in the window has become 2 colours (red on top).
What is the black line that suddenly appears behind the black cap fireman? It wasn’t in the previous frame?
The great white nothing at the end of the street has become 3 buildings, but still the left one is too white.
At this moment nobody is watching the plane anymore and the cameraman suddenly makes an impossible camera action filming the first plane crashing into the Twin Towers (in less than a second).


4. 1:13:05 - In the less than one second camera turn towards the plane crash, there is a reflection (?) of the red fire truck; what is this supposed to be?
What are the white things in the windows - are these white curtains?
What is the light square on the right directly above the red truck – is there a hole in the building through which the sunlight shines: https://archive.is/bfSEX/a6a10d3485f...8800ddefbe.png

5. 1:13:05 - Here we can see the plane flying towards the North Tower (note that this camera action was in less than 1 second – how long exactly?).
More white curtains at the top of windows.
There is a white square glitch (?) directly above the middle of the white truck: https://archive.is/CYw5H/f48b8f23824...091d3b7407.png

6. 1:13:06 - Just before the plane crashes suddenly the shadow of the plane appears as the plane suddenly looks as if it is flying down in a sharp angle (instead of horizontal): https://archive.is/sfbUp/caa51923fe2...f9f033c42a.png

7. 1:13:07 - At impact there is an immediate explosion; the white glitch above the white truck is still there: https://archive.is/jBaKv/574b1f49913...940648bb24.png

8. The “middle” corner of the North tower suddenly shows a white vertical line.
Later it looks as if the white vertical line is falling out of the tower (to the left).
See that no damage is seen on the right 1/3 of the tower; later suddenly an orange glowing spot appears.


9. After zooming in and out several times, also the South Tower shows a similar white vertical line; while there are now 2 smaller vertical lines in the North Tower.
Suddenly 2 black birds appear; if I estimate the distance correctly they must be enormously large (maybe not like KingKong, but more like swans). They do not fly like any known bird.
At this time there has appeared a noticeable (black) damage that’s growing on the right side of the North Tower.


At 20 seconds after impact the explosions have dimmed, while the orange, black hole looks very fake.
The horizontal white line on the edge of the North Tower can still be seen.


Insurance fraud and put options
Larry Silverstein leased the WTC after George W. Bush became president, and “coincidentally” insured the WTC for a large amount of money for a terrorist attack only in July 2001; he reportedly made $4,550,000,000 (4.55 billion dollar) for the terrorist attack on the twin towers.
Silverstein and his family were lucky enough to not be in his office in the WTC on that faithful September 11; on a normal day he would’ve been in the Twin towers (with his daughter that worked for him).

Put options give someone the right to sell a stock for the current price (this only makes money when on the short term they decrease in value). There was an enormous peak in put options of American Airline and United Airlines (the companies of the 4 airplanes). Predictable both stocks came tumbling down from 30 to 20 dollars, there was also a suspicious high amount of trade in put options of Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch.

From 6th September 2001 till 10th September 2001: United Airlines sold 9000% more put-options, American Airlines 6000% more; Morgan Stanley 2600%; Merrill Lynch 1100%! The investigation about who profited was abruptly stopped. According to Michael C. Ruppert, who died in April 2014, CIA Executive Director “Buzzy” Krongard was directly involved in this scam: http://www.globalresearch.ca/9-11-at...st-ranks/32323

James Corbett has made a detailed report on some of the financial aspects of the 9/11 operation.
The Port Authority insured the WTC complex for only $1.5 billion. Silverstein insisted on more than double that amount, insuring the buildings for $3.55 billion. Silverstein’s insurance broker had to split it among 25 dealers to put that much insurance coverage on the WTC complex.

Larry Silverstein and Co settled the insurance case for 2 terrorist attacks for $4.55 billion, for a mere “investment” of $125 million.
In 2003, Silverstein, Goldman and Cayre, who were the investors, got a total refund from the Port Authority for $125 million, according to Corbett $98 million and a further $130 million for the site’s rebuilding, while they retained control of 10 million square feet of office space: http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/wt...tml?refresh=on

Corbett also describes that around the time of the terrorist attack AIG and Marsh & MacLennan were used to funnel more than $100 million through the WTC.
According to Convar director Peter Henschel:
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The suspicion is that inside information about the attack was used to send financial transaction commands and authorizations in the belief that amid all the chaos the criminals would have, at the very least, a good head start.
According to Richard Wagner:
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There is a suspicion that some people had advance knowledge of the approximate time of the plane crashes in order to move out amounts exceeding $100 million. They thought that the records of their transactions could not be traced after the main frames were destroyed in the moments right before the attacks and during the attack — there was a 40 minute window between the time the first plane struck the World Trade Center and the second plane — that Deutsche Bank’s computers in New York City had been “taken over.” Absolutely co-opted and run. There was a massive data purge, a massive data download, and all kinds of stuff was moving.
And what this person said very clearly was that no one in the Deutsche Bank offices in the towers at the time had the ability to prevent what was going on from any of their terminals.
At the time of 9/11, Marsh’s chief of risk management was Paul Bremer, the former managing director of Kissinger and Associates. On the morning of 9/11 he was at NBC’s TV studio, where he said that Bin Laden, Iran and Iraq were the prime suspects.

The $180,000 for the put options United Airlines were worth $2.4 million when stock trading resumed.
The $337,000 in put options American Airlines on 10 September 2001, made a return of $1.8 million.
There was also a six-fold increase in call options of defence contractor Raytheon on the day before 9/11. The options allowed the traders to buy Raytheon stock at $25, within a week they were worth more than $34.
According to the FBI the purchase of 56,000 shares Stratesec in the days prior to 9/11 was suspicious.
Stratesec provided security systems to amongst other Dulles Airport, United Airlines and the WTC, and its share price almost doubled when the markets re-opened on 17 September 2001. Mr. and Mrs. Wirt D. Walker III, a business partner of Marvin Bush, brother of George Jr., were the buyers. This wasn’t suspicious because Walker had “no ties to terrorism”. At Stratesec Wirt Dexter Walker hired several people from The Carlyle Group, affiliated with Bush, Cheney and the Bin Laden family. Wirt Walkers fellow … director James Abrahamson was a close business associate of Mansoor Ijaz, who claimed that he could contact Osama Bin Laden.

A 2,500 order for put options United Airlines in the days before 9/11, was not processed through the regular Chicago Board of Options Exchange, but by Alex Brown & Sons (ABS, at the time owned by Deutsche Bank).
Until 1998, Alex Brown was chaired by A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard, a former consultant to James Woolsey (when Woolsey was Director of the CIA). Krongard became the Executive Director of the CIA on 16 March 2001: https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...sider-trading/
(archived here: http://archive.is/fP7xw)

On 16 October 2008, Robert Baer the CIA Case Officer in the Middle East for almost two decades during an interview claimed that he knew somebody that had prior knowledge of 9/11 because his brother worked at the White House. Robert Baer (RB), Jeremy Rothe Kushel (JK) and Stewart Howe (SH):
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RB - I know the guy that went into his broker in San Diego and said ‘cash me out, it’s going down tomorrow.’
JK - Really?
RB - Yeah.
SH - That tells us something.
RB - What?
SH - That tells us something.
RB - Well his brother worked at the White House.
At the end of the interview (9:48-10:02).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z5BnihtWfs


Cell phones planes – air flight records: BTS, ACT, ACARS – living hijackers
The state media broadcast several conversations from the cell phones of unfortunate passengers in the hijacked planes. This is simply impossible: you cannot have a conversation with a regular mobile phone from an airplane that’s flying at a high altitude with a speed of 500 miles per hour: http://www.globalresearch.ca/phone-c...irliners/16924

Ironically part of the data collected on cell phones is the location. So the telephone companies and the intelligence agencies know from where these calls were made.

The Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS) keeps detailed records of (amongst others) take off times.
For both the planes of American Airlines, that were reportedly hijacked and crashed (AA11/WTC-1 and AA77/Pentagon), the BTS reported no take off times - so the planes didn’t leave the airport (until later). According to earlier information (that was later altered) from BTS these planes weren’t even scheduled to fly on September 11, 2001: http://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa_flts/aa_flts.htm

This leaves the 2 airplanes of United Airlines. According to information from Air Traffic Control (ATC) - UA93 was still flying after it had supposedly crashed in Shanksville: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/united-...-airborne.html

This leaves 1 plane. According to information of the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) UA175 was still flying 20 minutes after it - according to the official story - had crashed in WTC-2: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/ACARS-C...TER-CRASH.html

So according to records: 2 planes didn’t even leave the airport, while the 2 other planes were still flying when according to the official story they had already crashed.

There were reported 19 Arab terrorists that hijacked the planes using plastic knives, conveniently the passport of one of them was found near the WTC complex, but some of them turned out to be alive after 9/11.
No problem of course for the state propaganda that simply changed the names on the list: https://truthandshadows.wordpress.co...-board-planes/
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Molten steel – nanothermite
Not only did they tell us that the jet fuel was hot enough to melt the steel in the Twin Towers (and even WTC-7 from a distance), but it was also claimed that Ground zero burned for 3 months and even there metal supposedly melted for a long time after 9/11. I’ve seen some fake computer animation of molten steel running from the burning Twin Towers and hate to admit it, but it looks pretty convincing: https://youtu.be/OmuzyWC60eE

The following site does a good job at debunking the molten steel videos, pictures, and molten steel after 9/11 at Ground zero. The steel flowing down the building isn’t possible because: it flows from a window and the aluminium cladding displays no signs of melting and the flow disappears prior to destruction of WTC 2 as the video jumps: http://www.checktheevidence.com/cms/...d=91&Itemid=60

According to the following picture Ground zero was hot on September 16, but on September 23 almost no heat remained.


Look at the following picture of firemen working in the (damp) smoke of boiling water. They must wear some wonderful magical suits that protect them from being boiled themselves.


Here’s a construction machine that picks up red hot steel like it’s nothing. The hydraulic system couldn't possibly withstand even a fraction of the temperature that is associated with red hot steel (845 Celsius or higher).


Also interesting to note that the highly explosive nanothermite was found in the dust from the WTC. I found some interesting videos on nanothermite at (some of which have been removed since): http://physics911.net/how-911-was-done/

The following video shows how “easy” it is to demolish a building with nanothermite. I’m no demolition expert by the way and believe this is quite difficult.
This video shows how nanothermite can melt steel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmA59hQnoOU

The following video shows that in a demolition the steel columns are cut diagonally, as was seen at Ground Zero (see the following 2 pictures): https://youtu.be/9J8ojEWlkrs




The following relatively short story explains some of the relevant aspects about the demolition of the WTC on 9/11
Making a building fall into its own footprint is called an implosion. In an implosion the explosive charges (for example nanothermite) are placed so the inner core of the building collapses first and the core can pull the outside of the building to the centre. An implosion of a skyscraper can only be performed by highly skilled experts (only a handful of demolition companies in the world are capable of this feat). An implosion is usually preceded by removing as much interior elements as possible (a process called “gutting”).
Because not all the explosions go off at once: witnesses should have heard a series of explosions before the collapses. I guess that the reason why they started the clean-up of Ground Zero already the day after 9/11 was to destroy the evidence of diagonally cut columns: http://theantimedia.org/physicists-t...emolition-911/


Asbestos death toll
In 1990 the costs for the removal of asbestos from Broad Street 55 was $70 million, roughly 5 times the building’s construction costs. If the whole World Trade Center was constructed for 1.9 billion, a reasonable estimate of the costs for the removal of asbestos is 9.5 billion dollar (that could be a motive!): http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/asbestos.html

The health of some 400,000 people has been damaged by the asbestos when WTC-1, WTC-2 and WTC-7 fell down. I have seen some photos of people working on Ground Zero wearing no protective gear.
Besides asbestos also other chemicals in the dust were hazardous to the health. According to Scientific American the collapsed towers contained heavy metals like lead and PCBs. Symptoms of 9/11 conditions include: chronic cough, shortness of breath, sinus congestion and cancer. Earlier this year there were 72,000 people enrolled in the World Trade Center Health Program (WTCHP).

The workers cleaning up Ground Zero were dropping dead and becoming severely ill already in 2003. At first the government denied that these people got ill and were dying because of exposure to dangerous toxics. Only after people started speaking out in the press, this was acknowledged: http://www.activistpost.com/2016/04/...americans.html

Of the samples taken by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) 25% contained levels above the 1% “safe” threshold. Already 3 days after 9/11, the head of the EPA, Christine Todd Whitman, lied: "The good news continues to be that air samples we have taken have all been at levels that cause us no concern". On Sept. 18, 2001, Whitman reassured residents that the air "is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink".
According to a report by the EPA’s Office of the Inspector General of August 21, 2003, the White House Council on Environmental Quality reviewed and even changed EPA statements to make the public health risks sound less alarming. The report cites “reopening Wall Street” and “national security” as reasons for the spin.
Even Mayor Rudy Giuliani stood next to Christie Whitman to announce that the air was safe. A year after 9/11 half of the program’s patients — some 7,000 firemen, police officers and volunteers — were still sick. The EPA only tested and cleaned individual apartments on request, and “forgot” central air systems and common areas: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3076626/ns...r-epas-report/

In April 2008 a panel of judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit ruled that Whitman cannot be held liable for knowingly misinforming the public. Earlier this year Whitman finally apologised for the misinformation.
Since September 2001 at least 1,000 people have died because of the exposure to debris from the wreckage of the WTC. More than 37,000 are officially recognised as sick. In 2011 the federal WTCHP was established, since then a total of 1,140 registered members have died. It has 75,000 registered members, 87% of whom worked on rescue, recovery and clean-up (the rest are New York residents or workers). To keep the truth covered the WTCHP doesn’t even record causes of death: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ses-death-toll

In 2013 some 1,140 new cancer cases were reported of Ground Zero rescuers and responders; this toll skyrocketed to more than 2,500 in 2014: http://nypost.com/2014/07/27/cancers...-skyrocketing/


Threads DNA & Pentagon, Shanksville
I’ve started another thread on the DNA identification fraud of the vicsims at Ground Zero: https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=321609

I’ve started another thread on what happened on 9/11 at the Pentagon and Shanksville.
Possibly WTC-7 was first meant to be hit by a plane, while the Pentagon would be hit by a missile (fake of course). When the explosions in WTC-7 didn’t go off as planned maybe they changed the story on the Pentagon being hit by a plane at ground level: https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=322038
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Controlled demolition WTC 1, 2 and 7
The collapses were preceded by explosions at the base of buildings.
In the following video we can hear 3 separate explosions, and then a series of explosions right before the collapse of WTC-1: https://youtu.be/jAKfBA8lBYg

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When he’s told that this demolition occurred on September 11, 2001 he asks with undisguised amazement on the same day? (op dezelfde dag?). After that he tells some more obvious things that on the surface aren’t really that great, but he makes a sound impression. Because of asbestos a demolition would be illegal.
Jowenko died in a suspicious car crash in July 2011 (the video is in Dutch with English subtitles): http://www.infowars.com/expert-who-c...-car-accident/
For some reason the video was removed by Infowars....
Here’s the video in Dutch with English subtitles (4:19).
Danny Jowenko was actually trying to defend the official story on 9/11. Obviously he didn’t know about the implosion of WTC-7 and he tried to explain that this looks like a “controlled demolition” as opposed to the footage that has been shown of the collapse of the Twin Towers.
Jowenko even tried to explain that a team of 30-40 experts could have demolished WTC-7 in a single day (but admitted there is no explanation): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKFBJ1j96to

I also found the “full” Zembla documentary from which the Jowenko interview comes.
Starting at about 33:00, Jowenko tells that the official story on the collapse of the Twin Towers is reasonable. He tries to “debunk” the “Loose change” video. Jowenko doesn’t explain how kerosene could melt steel columns though…
Starting at about 47:00, at the end the (part of) interview with Jowenko about WTC-7 is shown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li89cUQNHZ4

Here’s the Loose change 2nd edition video (2:38:24). It’s almost exclusively about the controlled demolitions of WTC 1, 2 and 7.
My main problem is that they use the “special effects” fakery of the 3 controlled demolitions for their analysis.



Donald Trump, Silverstein, dancing Israelis
Video 9/11 from James Corbett, Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani tells he was warned the Twin Towers would come down (11:52).
Larry Silverstein tells about his decision to “pull” WTC-7.
Donald Trump tells that Silverstein is a good friend of his.
It also addresses the plans to make an “event” happen by Mossad. Ehud Barak fingers Osama Bin Laden.


In the following video, Donald Trump (an expert in constructing high buildings) explains on 11 September 2001, that the building couldn´t have collapsed by planes.
So there must have been explosives in the building: https://youtu.be/Rt-ldMj9y9w

Then Donald Trump was warned that the previous interview contradicts the official story and on 13 September 2001 Donald for the German TV…
Starting at the 2:45 mark, Donald explains that the tremendous heat of the “fuel” (1600 degrees temperature…) could have taken the buildings down, “because” people were willing to die (4:38 video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYXygIcIJ6I

Trump says "thousands of people were cheering" when the World Trade Center buildings came down on 9-11 (weren’t there a couple of Mossad agents dressed up as Muslims cheering?):
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Hey, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down,” Trump told rally goers in Birmingham, Alabama Nov. 21, 2015. “And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP1bSHjcSEQ

A day later (starting 7:08) he confirmed this:
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There were people that were cheering on the other side of New Jersey, where you have large Arab populations. They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down. I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it, but there were people cheering as that building came down — as those buildings came down. And that tells you something. It was well covered at the time, George. Now, I know they don’t like to talk about it, but it was well covered at the time. There were people over in New Jersey that were watching it, a heavy Arab population, that were cheering as the buildings came down. Not good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YB1K-edNmw

On 9/11, eyewitnesses reported “middle eastern” men “dancing and celebrating” as the towers were engulfed in flames across the river in New Jersey. The men were subsequently arrested by the cops. The moving van they were using was registered under Urban Moving Systems, a Mossad front company managed by Israeli Dominic Suter.
The 5 arrested “dancing” Israeli, Yaron Shmuel, Omer Marmari, Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, and Oded Ellner, were all Mossad agents dressed up as Arabs.

None other than dual US- Israeli citizen Michael Chertoff had them released from custody, and sent to Israel on minor visa violations. Michael Chertoff is the son of a founding member of the Mossad.
Chertoff was the main author of the Patriot Act.
Chertoff later became the head of the US Department of Homeland Security.
The Chertoff Group has made hundreds of millions of dollars off the electronic body scanners that became part of airport security in the wake of the “Underwear Bomber” hysteria: http://archive.is/la8iN


SSDI - Dead computer animations
It has been claimed that almost 3000 people died in the 9/11 “terror attack”.
According to the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) database, which is based on the Social Security Number. The Social Security Number isn’t restricted to “social security”, but is a registration number for every US citizen (needed for a bank account, driver’s license, and used as a registration number for tax). The SSDI is a reliable database that registers the death of all US citizens.
Vincent Sammartino did a cross check of the victims on the 4 planes - that supposedly crashed on 9/11 - and found more holes in the official story. Of the passengers and crew of Flight 11, 77, 175, and 93, respectively only 22%, 22%, 28%, and 13% are in the SSDI. Of the 266 “people” that died on these jets, according to the SSDI only 11 relatives applied for compensation (with an average pay-out of about $1.8 million).
According to the 9/11 Victims Compensation Final Report for Flight 11, 77, 175, and 93 respectively 65, 33, 25 and 46 people, a total of 169 (63.5%) accepted the awarded compensation, which according to this final report equals 98% that accepted the fund money. So a lot of (families of) people that didn’t die, according to the SSDI, successfully applied for compensation: http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj36/13b.html

Brian S. Stavely concluded that out of the almost 3000 people, who were said to have been killed on 9/11, only 466 appear in the SSDI. Out of those 466 only 220 had death certificates issued: http://www.therealnewsonline.com/our...f-all-time-911

Then there’s “exif data” on some pictures. See the obituary of 9/11 victim Mark Bingham that was added on 8-30-2001 (before 9/11).... It says he was killed in the terrorist attacks of 9/11.
After this computer animation was born on August 30, it became a real American hero, when on 9/11 it called his “mother” to speak the immortal words “let’s roll”, when the brave computer animations would fight against the dangerous Muslim terrorists that (not) hijacked the plane. Bingham is NOT in either the SSDI or the Victims Compensation fund.


Of course computer animations can also die. They put some records in some databases and use the computer to generate some nice pictures. Here are some photographs where (at least) 50% of the photographs are fake (with added family members or friends).
I can think of only one reason for faking these photos – these people didn’t exist: http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php...854&start=1260

I’ve chosen not to put the entire picture here; for a taster here is 2 times the same picture of Kevin Cleary, with and without computer generated baby.



Smoke fakery and a real plane crash
The following video makes a strong case that even the smoke coming from the WTC was created by special effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkzfKRe0gbc

Here’s a video of a (real) plane crash (on the ground), this is what it would have looked like at the Pentagon and Shanksville: https://youtu.be/2zt1oTYhcgo
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Why 911 happened.
https://youtu.be/4lfd7mpt0Y4?t=34m
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Since I noticed that Postimages.org changed the URLs of “my” images in April 2018 I’ve been using Archive.is to “archive” my images. Yesterday I noticed that these images were removed…
I had earlier discovered that Web.archive.org isn’t reliable either: https://forum.davidicke.com/showthre...=318321&page=3

One of my main reasons to start this “new” thread a little more than 3 weeks ago was that my images had been removed. Here I repost some of the removed images…


Following is a street view taken live on 11 September 2001, reportedly shot by an amateur (************/bartbelle) and the real street view. Pay special attention to the wrong placement of buildings A and B and the 2 white spots without pixels.


The previous picture was removed from the internet. I’ve even found the video from which this bizarre looking shot came: http://letsrollforums.com/showpost.p...&postcount=313
Here’s the direct link to the video (from 9:14-9:16 the white buildings can be seen).



Here’s a picture taken from live footage from FOX News on 9/11 without a renovated rooftop that had been finished in March 2001.



The following shows some people working in the rubble at ground zero. Again the computer animation has gone wrong.
A, B and D seem at a similar position towards each other in both pictures; C has been animated at another spot.




The beginning of the video of Pavel Hlava, which was mysteriously discovered about a year after 9/11 and supposedly shows the first plane crashing into the WTC, looks animated.
See the picture of the opening shot below where both the cars and buildings look animated: https://youtu.be/H-UARS5F414



The part of the Naudet video in which the (first) plane can be seen is part of the following video by Simon Shack: https://youtu.be/vD_IgCKpNrY
I will describe what I see illustrated with 9 screenprints including a description of the obvious anomalies (glitches) I see. My screenprints include the timestamps so you can skip to this section.
1. First look at the shadows in the opposite direction from where the sun comes from.
Behind the main fireman (clack cap) at the corner of the street is a white spot glitch – no pixels – later this takes the form of 2 humans.
Also between the black cap fireman and the white hat is a white glitch in the window.


2. Then we hear a plane and the computer animations look to the sky. Why is the CGI with the white hat looking in the direction of the camera?
The white people without pixels suddenly appear to be humans strolling around.
At the end of the street (in the direction of the camera, behind the cars) is a great nothing void (no pixels), that later become 3 buildings.


3. The white glitch in the window has become 2 colours (red on top).
What is the black line that suddenly appears behind the black cap fireman? It wasn’t in the previous frame?
The great white nothing at the end of the street has become 3 buildings, but still the left one is too white.
At this moment nobody is watching the plane anymore and the cameraman suddenly makes an impossible camera action filming the first plane crashing into the Twin Towers (in less than a second).


4. 1:13:05 - In the less than one second camera turn towards the plane crash, there is a reflection (?) of the red fire truck; what is this supposed to be?
What are the white things in the windows - are these white curtains?
What is the light square on the right directly above the red truck – is there a hole in the building through which the sunlight shines: https://s19.postimg.cc/bebzjwpoj/Sept11-_Naudet-4.png

5. 1:13:05 - Here we can see the plane flying towards the North Tower (note that this camera action was in less than 1 second – how long exactly?).
More white curtains at the top of windows.
There is a white square glitch (?) directly above the middle of the white truck: https://s19.postimg.cc/51wua2mmb/Sept11-_Naudet-5.png

6. 1:13:06 - Just before the plane crashes suddenly the shadow of the plane appears as the plane suddenly looks as if it is flying down in a sharp angle (instead of horizontal): https://s19.postimg.cc/yicgchszn/Sept11-_Naudet-6.png

7. 1:13:07 - At impact there is an immediate explosion; the white glitch above the white truck is still there: https://s19.postimg.cc/txq9xk9ab/Sept11-_Naudet-7.png

8. The “middle” corner of the North tower suddenly shows a white vertical line.
Later it looks as if the white vertical line is falling out of the tower (to the left).
See that no damage is seen on the right 1/3 of the tower; later suddenly an orange glowing spot appears.


9. After zooming in and out several times, also the South Tower shows a similar white vertical line; while there are now 2 smaller vertical lines in the North Tower.
Suddenly 2 black birds appear; if I estimate the distance correctly they must be enormously large (maybe not like KingKong, but more like swans). They do not fly like any known bird.
At this time there has appeared a noticeable (black) damage that’s growing on the right side of the North Tower.
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On 24 January 2008, experienced pilot and pilot instructor, John Olsen Lear, signed an Affidavit that no planes crashed into the Twin Towers of the WTC on 11 September 2001...

No debris
If Boeing 767 airliners would crash against the Twin Towers:
The vertical and horizontal tail would have instantaneously separated from the plane, and fallen to the ground. The wing tips, could not have penetrated the steel box columns, would have snapped off and fallen to the ground.
The 4 engine cores, weighing over 9000 pounds each, would have maintained their general shape and would have been found. Only one engine part was allegedly found on Murray Street but not the other 3.
The debris of the collapse should have contained massive sections of the Boeing 767. There is no evidence that these massive components from either 767 were found at Ground Zero.

Aftermath pictures
The pictures after the crashes show a cut-out in the 14-inch exterior steel box columns, supposedly made by the Boeings 767: these don’t match the position of the wings.
Several of the columns through which the horizontal tail allegedly disappeared are not severed or broken.
The wing tips of the Boeing 767 could not possibly have made the pattern as shown in the aftermath photos.

Speed 542 miles per hour
The reported speed of 542 mph at which United Airlines Flight 175 supposedly crashed into the Twin Towers is impossible at 1000 feet above sea level. The engine isn’t designed to achieve such speed at such low altitude.
The maximum permissible speed for Boeing 767 below 23,000 feet is 414 mph.
As soon as the aircraft below 23,000 feet would go faster than 414 mph, a “clacker” would sound in the cockpit. The “clacker” is a loud clacking sound, designed to be irritating. It would be very difficult for a pilot to continue.

Inexperienced pilots
It would have been impossible for the alleged hijackers, with no experience time in flying a Boeing to fly the plane at high speed to impact the Twin Towers, a 208 foot target, as we’ve been told.
The only way the reported speed of 542 mph could’ve been attained was in a dive. This would make it even impossible (or very difficult) for an experienced pilot to keep control over a Boeing 767: https://beforeitsnews.com/v3/9-11-an...SplittedPage=0
(PDF with pictures: https://www.wanttoknow.nl/wp-content...-affidavit.pdf)


Following is an interesting video where John Lear explains his conclusions (video of 41:47).
John Lear tells that he couldn’t have crashed into the Twin Towers as the inexperienced hijackers supposedly did.
Information on the disappearing plane in Shanksville.
The cell phone calls.
The collapse of WTC-7.
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Hear the explosions right before the collapse of the South Tower


Compare the controlled demolition of a Chinese skyscraper to the collapse of the 3 towers of the WTC: https://youtu.be/jO15CXhsTM4
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Thanx Jimmy!!!

Somewhere on this base I posted a video where you can CLEARLY HEAR EXPLOSIVES in the bottom of both towers right befiore they fall!!!!! (A private guys video)


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Heres my thread Jimmy! (Its the first link of the 3 part video)

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62413

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