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Old 08-07-2010, 02:33 PM   #41
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Roger, how many people are still missing from the WTC Towers? Since we don't have their DNA, does this mean they are not dead?
We are talking about hijackers. Please answer up.

You do know that NIST had to come up with new DNA testing just for 9/11 but it was not ready untill 2002.

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Old 08-07-2010, 02:37 PM   #42
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We are talking about hijackers. Please answer up.

You do know that NIST had to come up with new DNA testing just for 9/11 but it was not ready untill 2002.
I did answer you. You are stating that since not all hijackers DNA has been found, this must mean that they are alive.

I am asking you now, Roger; Where are the people that were in the towers during the collapse that have not been identified by DNA?
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:46 PM   #43
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I did answer you. You are stating that since not all hijackers DNA has been found, this must mean that they are alive.
Yes, it does. Thanks for admititng to that.

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I am asking you now, Roger; Where are the people that were in the towers during the collapse that have not been identified by DNA?
Ask the people who was supposed to have done the DNA testing.

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Old 08-07-2010, 02:51 PM   #44
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Yes, it does. Thanks for admititng to that.
Oh i didn't admit that. You just made a complete ass out of yourself by doing so. You are once again in the logical fallacy of argument from ignorance. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.



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What is your opinion as to the status of those still missing from the WTC?
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:53 PM   #45
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[QUOTE=throatyogurt;1059034096]Oh i didn't admit that. You just made a complete ass out of yourself by doing so. You are once again in the logical fallacy of argument from ignorance. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Sorry you get so upset because you cannot post evidence to debate what i post.

In court if you canot show evidence it is evidence that you cannot show evidence.

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What is your opinion as to the status of those still missing from the WTC?
They are dead, we just do not know how, when and where since we do not have all the evidence.

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Old 08-07-2010, 03:02 PM   #46
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Sorry you get so upset because you cannot post evidence to debate what i post.

In court if you canot show evidence it is evidence that you cannot show evidence.
You are asking me to prove a negative which is a logical fallacy. I have asked you to prove that they are alive. You have FAILED to do so. How much clearer does it have to be drawn out for you? Are you that stupid?



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They are dead, we just do not know how, when and where since we do not have all the evidence.
What makes you think that they are dead?
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:11 PM   #47
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You are asking me to prove a negative which is a logical fallacy.
No i am asking you to show evidence of what you believe or that supports the officail story.

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What makes you think that they are dead?
We have no reports of them being alive, unlike the hijackers.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:19 PM   #48
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No i am asking you to show evidence of what you believe or that supports the officail story.
Are you smoking crack? I asked you for evidence of any of them being alive. You once again posted that website that clearly asks that you verify their information.

Then, like the idiot you are, said that you verified it by not having DNA.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:39 PM   #49
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. Then, like the idiot you are, said that you verified it by not having DNA.
Its not just the DNA and websites its the combination of facts of the websites, reports and DNA.

Is that so hard to understand?

When are you going to post any evidence to suport what you believe or that supports the official story ???

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Old 08-07-2010, 04:13 PM   #50
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When are you going to post any evidence to suport what you believe or that supports the official story ???
Roger... You think some of the hijackers are alive. You need to back this up. Please post evidence to support your claim.

Understand?
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:24 PM   #51
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NO effing Plane hit the pentagon

I know its hard for some to believe that their governments are corrupt criminals,but these are the FACTS

( CCTV Footage)


Hey anyone seen the left over plane parts anywhere?

Where they get stored for forensic analysis like the steel that got shipped off rather rapidly

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pentagon/video_fraud.htm



check the date

Contracts totaling $31,100,000 were finalized with McShain and the other contractors on September 11, 1941, and ground was broken for the Pentagon the same day.


Science and Technology - PENTAGON MISSILE STRIKE ON 911: Americans Fooled Again...:

http://sci-tech.ws/CRYRkZNOUJaVU1zX0...A2csQ7Q__.html

So if NO plane hit the pentagon

where are the passengers and hi jackers?

911 is a Joke and not a well thought out one at that

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Old 08-07-2010, 05:29 PM   #52
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NO effing Plane hit the pentagon
Dude, did you happen to read the "effing" topic?
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Old 08-07-2010, 07:08 PM   #53
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Dude, did you happen to read the "effing" topic?
Yes

911 was an inside job

TPTB are covering up the facts DUDE

another example WTC 7

buildings on fire do not collapse like WTC 7 collapsed


1 effing video posted

9-11 video THE INEXPLICABLE COLLAPSE OF WTC7:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...3116607499063#

another effing video posted


come on


At the time of the September 11, 2001 attacks, Salomon Smith Barney was by far the largest tenant in 7 World Trade Center, occupying 1,202,900 sq ft (111,750 m²) (64 percent of the building) which included floors 28–45. Other major tenants included ITT Hartford Insurance Group (122,590 sq ft/11,400 m²), American Express Bank International (106,117 sq ft/9,900 m²), Standard Chartered Bank (111,398 sq ft/10,350 m²), and the Securities and Exchange Commission (106,117 sq ft/9,850 m²). Smaller tenants included the Internal Revenue Service Regional Council (90,430 sq ft/8,400 m²) and the United States Secret Service (85,343 sq ft/7,900 m²). The smallest tenants included the New York City Office of Emergency Management,[25] National Association of Insurance Commissioners, Federal Home Loan Bank, First State Management Group Inc., Provident Financial Management, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service. The Department of Defense (DOD) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) shared the 25th floor with the IRS. Floors 46–47 were mechanical floors, as were the bottom six floors and part of the seventh floor.

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Old 08-07-2010, 08:27 PM   #54
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So if NO plane hit the pentagon

where are the passengers and hi jackers?

911 is a Joke and not a well thought out one at that

good point!

media asked mohammed atta's father where was his son and he answered "ask the mossad"

http://www.egypttoday.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=2428
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good point!

media asked mohammed atta's father where was his son and he answered "ask the mossad"

http://www.egypttoday.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=2428
Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD to Aaron Russo

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good point!

media asked mohammed atta's father where was his son and he answered "ask the mossad"

http://www.egypttoday.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=2428
Did you happen to read that article? Atta Sr. is in rough shape and unable to differentiate between fact and fiction. If he wasn't such a hard nosed anti-semite, I would almost feel sorry for the guy.

While you're at it, try reading this:

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CAIRO, Egypt (CNN) -- The father of one of the hijackers who commandeered the first plane that crashed into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, praised the recent terror attacks in London and said many more would follow.

Speaking to CNN producer Ayman Mohyeldin Tuesday in his apartment in the upper-middle-class Cairo suburb of Giza, Mohamed el-Amir said he would like to see more attacks like the July 7 bombings of three London subway trains and a bus that killed 52 people, plus the four bombers.

Displayed prominently in the apartment were pictures of el-Amir's son, Mohamed Atta, the man who is believed to have piloted American Airlines Flight 11 into the north tower of the World Trade Center as part of the attacks on the United States.

El-Amir said the attacks in the United States and the July 7 attacks in London were the beginning of what would be a 50-year religious war, in which there would be many more fighters like his son.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...ror/index.html
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Did you happen to read that article? Atta Sr. is in rough shape and unable to differentiate between fact and fiction. If he wasn't such a hard nosed anti-semite, I would almost feel sorry for the guy.

While you're at it, try reading this:



http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...ror/index.html
i read both articles
and the one i post shows a father convince that his son wasnt involve, plus it was a prime source interview. i do agree with him that israel and usa are both involve in 911
while the another has vague quotes. quoting a sentence of 4 words tops
if you ask me i trust more in a local(egypt) interview than a cnn article
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Did you happen to read that article? Atta Sr. is in rough shape and unable to differentiate between fact and fiction. If he wasn't such a hard nosed anti-semite, I would almost feel sorry for the guy.

While you're at it, try reading this:



http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...ror/index.html
what a negative most vile piece of garbage article.

and you would feel sorry for a man like that?
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what a negative most vile piece of garbage article.

and you would feel sorry for a man like that?
i think we are missing the point here.
the point was to try to provide some evidence that hijackers were alive after 911. if you read the article from the egypt magazine you can understand that the father is talking the same thing as we do. now i dont know that guy im not saying i like him or dislike him or he is anisemte or not. im just pointing out that he as a father strongly believes that his son were alive after 911 and he tells why he thinks at. independently that he is a very obtuse man.
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Roger... You think some of the hijackers are alive. You need to back this up. Please post evidence to support your claim.
I have posted the evidence, what can't you accept and admit to it ???

1. Website claims 2 hijackers are alive, no one has debated this information.

2. No DNA evidence that all the hijackers are dead, no one has debated this information.

3. Reports have stated that the hijckers used fake and phoney IDs, no one has debated this information.
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