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Old 28-08-2016, 03:25 PM   #61
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GlaxoSmithKline paid TV-doctor Dr. Drew Pinsky (of “Lifechangers” and “Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew”) $275,000 in 1999 to advertise Wellbutrin on his shows: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...epressant.html
Dr. Drew’s HLN television show has been cancelled by CNN from September 22 on, because he has lost credibility after being bribed to advertise the products of GlaxoSmithKline.
Why would he question the health (care) of crooked Hillary Clinton: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...intons-health/
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Old 28-08-2016, 04:14 PM   #62
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People suffering from mental health issues can often benefit from treatment.
Depends on the treatment.

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Dowsing and Spiritualism have been around for a long time.
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Not sure how those two relate to this thread though.
Well, I guess that you not being able to understand what I am inferring, further indicates your mental illness, lol. Perhaps you need treatment. Treats for all.

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Sounds like the bastards have put you through Hell Jimmy.

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They are not the same drug, largactyl is a major tranquilliser/anti psychotic and amitiptyline is an anti depressant and is also used to stop pain signals reaching the brain.
Sorry butting in there, maybe GMP has different opinion.

Melleril is similar to largactyl they are both phenothiezines.
I was given amitryptyline as a pain killer for back pain and it made me feel psychotic next morning when I woke up my brain felt like it had been boiled. Worse than any so called recreational drug I've taken, why do they dish this stuff out and ban cannabis? Though I know some people taking 5 tablets a day with other drugs - how can the Medical system start issuing an anti-psychotic to people for general pain relief? Well we all know why...they want to F-up your brain!

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"Hitchens haloperidol"
Yeh I googled it and this came up:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ical-cosh.html

The article talks about "Soma" from Aldous Huxley "Brave New World" was that MDMA - is that the closest thing we've got to actually creating Soma - which would make the majority happy for a while.

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I have something to add about the psychiatric warfare:


I am currently targeted by the Irish mafia.
I did some work for them a while back, and when I found out about some of their exploits, the child abuse rackets, drugs and gun smuggling, racketeering - I exposed them and told the police.

This caused me a great deal of flak, since they're under some sort of top-floor protection.
The police started taking my statement. Then some "specialist" police took over and said I needed psychiatric testing to tell if I was telling the truth.
They took me under section to a military hospital, where i was experimented on, tortured, and basically told that they are going to kill me, it's just a question of when, if I go public or to the newspapers they will just tell people I'm crazy.

I had to goto an independent psychiatric evaluation, where the guy took my claims seriously, and also could verify I wasn't crazy..

The psychiatric world seems to be a very convenient place to firstly sweep the minds of the masses - secondly to hide and lock away enemies of the state or agenda - and thirdly to steal peoples dignity and credibility (who's going to believe someone's Illuminati story if there's "evidence" they're crazy)
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The police started taking my statement. Then some "specialist" police took over and said I needed psychiatric testing to tell if I was telling the truth.
They took me under section to a military hospital, where i was experimented on, tortured, and basically told that they are going to kill me, it's just a question of when, if I go public or to the newspapers they will just tell people I'm crazy.
I have been tortured for half a year in a psychiatric hospital: at first I thought this was accurately described in the 1984 of George Orwell, but then I found that the description in the "Manchurian Candidate" of John Marks about the brainwashing techniques in the communist Soviet Union was even more accurate.

How do you know, that you have been in a "military hospital" (instead of a "psychiatric hospital")?
And is a "military hospital" even worse (than a "psychiatric hospital")?
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I was given amitryptyline as a pain killer for back pain and it made me feel psychotic next morning when I woke up my brain felt like it had been boiled. Worse than any so called recreational drug I've taken, why do they dish this stuff out and ban cannabis? Though I know some people taking 5 tablets a day with other drugs - how can the Medical system start issuing an anti-psychotic to people for general pain relief? Well we all know why...they want to F-up your brain!
The feeling like your brain was being boiled is a good description and one I've heard from others.
I believe that most if not all psychiatric drugs prescribed are never fully trialled. It's a case of prescribe then see what they do.

There are incentives for Doctors from drug companies if they prescribe the latest drugs that are being pedalled.
A nice little golfing weekend or maybe an expensive pen.
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LITHIUM
Lithium is interesting from a historic perspective because it was already used in the 19th century to treat psychiatric patients. In Denmark the brothers Carl and Frederik Lange started using Lithium for the treatment of melancholic depression in the mid 1880s. But wasn’t used in the first half of the 20th century (possibly because it wasn’t effective?). The modern revival of Lithium began in 1949 when John Cade in Melbourne, Australia started experimenting with lithium on his manic patients/victims. The real breakthrough began in 1952, when Erik Strömgren, in Risskov, Denmark undertook an experiment on the effect of Lithium in the treatment of mania: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3712976/
Lithium blocks the functioning of the nervous system to result in a drowsy, lethargic and slowed up (zombielike) feeling. On the short term this stops the exited, manic state in manic-depressed people, but on the long term there’s only adverse effects (like all psychiatric drugs). Lithium causes permanent memory and mental dysfunction (dementia), depression, a decline in neurological function and quality of life. Long-term lithium exposure also causes severe kidney failure. Withdrawal from Lithium can cause manic-like episodes and psychosis.
Also interesting, regarding the broader subject of an out of control psychiatry. George Winokur found out that in the USA between 1934 and 1944 psychiatric patients with an episode of mania had a relapse at a rate of 15% per year. Margaret Harris and David Healy found that in a North Wales asylum in the 1890s, the relapse rate was 20% a year. In the 1990s, people with manic depression had a much higher average relapse rate of 31% per year: https://joannamoncrieff.com/2015/07/...ve-in-lithium/

BENZODIAZEPINES
Some of the effects of Benzodiazepines are: sedation (tranquillity), cognitive impairment, extreme agitation, homicidal, psychosis, paranoia, depression, aggression, and addiction. But the withdrawal effects are possibly even worse: anxiety, insomnia, psychosis, agitation, aggression, and even seizures.
One study showed that Triazolam has even worse adverse effects than other Benzodiazepines (temazapam/Restoril and flurazepam/Dalmane). See the following chapter from a book of Peter Breggin: http://breggin.com/index.php?option=...ask=view&id=85
The following meta-analysis shows that benzodiazepines results in cognitive impairment - Barker et al, Cognitive Effects of Long-Term Benzodiazepine Use (2004): http://www.academia.edu/24712569/Cog...odiazepine_Use

LEAD
What I’m trying to describe in this thread is that psychiatry is in fact using poisons to make the lower classes inferior. Lead poisoning is very interesting in this context, because it’s mostly the poor that suffer, and because the half year life of the lead in the brain is 2 years (while only 35 days in the blood), the effects are especially large on the functioning of the brain.
Lead has been used in many poor households: in toys, house paint, gasoline, and in the water supply. Lead infection has a variety of adverse effects: disrupts neurotransmission, impairs the brain, and impairs the cognitive and neuropsychological development. The adverse effect in children are even worse: neuropsychological impairment, poorer reasoning, less verbal skills, slowed fine motor speed, clumsiness, abdominal cramps, anorexia, irritability, behaviour problems, vomiting, stupor, coma and seizures, and can even cause death or make them retarded. It is clear that because of lead (poisoning) in childhood, the intelligence is severely impaired, but there are differences of opinion on the size of this effect.
See Lidsky et al, Lead neurotoxicity in children… (2003): http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/cont...6/1/5.full.pdf

From the 1970s on lead has gradually been removed from houses, drinking water and gasoline, but who knows what new toxics do the most damage. And what about all of the pesticides in our food or fluoride?
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The feeling like your brain was being boiled is a good description and one I've heard from others.
I believe that most if not all psychiatric drugs prescribed are never fully trialled. It's a case of prescribe then see what they do.

There are incentives for Doctors from drug companies if they prescribe the latest drugs that are being pedalled.
A nice little golfing weekend or maybe an expensive pen.
Yep many people complain of the same side-effects so it can't just be a few people with allergic reactions. Made my brain very sore as well and also felt irritable.

I was given these pills for back/joint pain not mental issues. Doctors are in the pockets of the drugs companies no doubt about it.
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There was a program about Placebo's (couple of years back) and the research done into using them for physical and mental health and getting results, is amazing but you don't hear much about them in the news. Placebo's have even worked with Schizophrenia...

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2015/07July/P...a-placebo.aspx

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When they locked me up for half a year in 2005 in a psychiatric hospital, I saw a lot young people being tortured by psychiatry. The children that got antispsychotic drugs from 16 years old on, remained 16 year old children on an emotional level.
About 2 weeks ago I talked to a homeless man of about 37 years old. He told me he had been sentenced to ADHD when he was 5 years old. He said each day he starts with a joint and coffee and drinks more than 6 liters of beer every single day, and on special occasions he takes some other drugs to get in the mood to party. Not only did he deny that his alcohol and drug abuse is caused by being given Ritalin at a young age, he denied being an alcoholic (more than 6 liters beer every day). He wasn’t even dumb.

8.4 MILLION CHILDREN
Not one psychiatric drug has positive effects on the long term, and the objective of psychiatry is not to improve the mental health of people, but to find the soma of the Brave new world Aldous Huxley described, to make everybody nice and docile. Most of the psychiatric drugs on children are used for conditions for which they haven’t been approved (or tested) for their age group. Children cannot protect themselves from sadistic psychiatrists. So if children don’t have parents to protect them from the claws of psychiatry, and orphans have no family to protect them, they become victims of psychiatry.
In the USA in 2013 a total of 8.4 million kids (0-17 years) got psychiatric drugs, including 4.4 million kids with the non-existent disease “ADHD”, including 1.1 million very young children (0-5 years) and even 274 thousand babies (younger than 2 years): https://www.cchrint.org/psychiatric-...hiatric-drugs/
From 2013 to 2014 the amount of prescriptions for babies went from 13,000 to 20,000 prescriptions for psychotropic drugs: http://www.medicaldaily.com/psychiat...chotics-365236
Psychiatric drugs for children is also exploding in England. From 2000 to 2012 the amount of prescriptions for ADHD drugs almost quadrupelled from 270 thousand to over 1 million units.


QUARTER OF FOSTER CHILDREN
Between 1995 and 2000 the number of prescriptions for psychotropic drugs for US children more than doubled. Foster children are prescribed psychotropic drugs at a rate 12 times higher than other children on Medicaid. In the USA 7.5% of schoolchildren (6-17 years) are on psychiatric drugs. A study from Rutgers University showed that at least 75% of the children on antipsychotics get them for uses not approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA): http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...-drug-use.aspx
About 4,300 of Colorado’s 16,800 foster children (more than 25%) were prescribed psychotropic drugs in 2012. Among teens in foster care (10-17 years) 37% were on psychotropic drugs. Kids take higher-than-recommended doses or multiple antipsychotics for long stretches: http://www.denverpost.com/2014/04/12...g-foster-kids/
There’s also a familiar description of the effects of antipsychotics:
Diego said he spent most of his teenage years forcing down anti-psychotics he didn’t want to take, drugs that eliminated his lows and his highs, made him numb. One of his foster fathers had a timer that went off at medication time. The four boys living in basement bunking quarters would traipse upstairs for their doses and glasses of water.
“I didn’t know how to feel. I was on autopilot, going through the motions,” said Diego, who was part of the state panel that reviewed psychotropic use in foster care.
He gained 25 pounds, a common side effect of Risperdal. On medication, exercising made his “blood boil” with aggression instead of reducing stress, he said. He lied to his psychiatrist in hopes of lower doses. “I felt like if I would reveal my true self,” he said, “they were going to up the dosage.”

Foster children (in Colorado) get 5 times as much psychotropic drugs (25.7%) as other children (4.5%); a lot of them take even 2 or more drugs at the same time.


HORRIBLE EXAMPLES: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/art-le...b_6966454.html
An overmedicated teen in foster care, Steven Unangst, died in Antioch, California; a 4-year-old on four psychotropic drugs; a 16-year-old on 6 psychiatric drugs. A 10 year-old with ADHD was given antipsychotics with the following “side” effects: paranoia, hostility, unstable mood, hallucinations, and suicidal thoughts.
Creating the impression of scientific evidence for TMAP was a series of rigged, skewed and ghost-written studies funded by Johnson and Johnson’s Janssen division.
In California nearly 25% of foster care teens is on antipsychotics. According to Dr. Stefan Kruszewski: “About 95 to 97 percent of the children that I treat that are getting antipsychotics are given them for reasons that aren’t approved by the FDA”.
A known effect of Risperdal is growing breasts on boys. Do you think that a boy with breasts that’s insecure, suffers from a mental disease or would any young man with breasts get mental problems?

HOMOS IN PSYCHIATRY - DSM
Until 1973 “homosexuality” was considered a mental disease according to the DSM (only in 1987 this view was abolished). The inclusion of homosexuality as a “mental disorder” and then getting rid of it (as a mental disease) was – both - politically motivated (and in accordance with Christian morals). Very scientific this was decided by a vote of the all-knowing DSM-panel. According to today’s (political) standards saying that somebody is mentally ill for no other reason than being a “homo” is discrimination: http://behaviorismandmentalhealth.co...hat-went-away/
Maybe you want to know how psychiatry treated homosexuals: much like the neo-Pavlovian conditioning of Brave new world. Showing male patients pictures of naked men while giving them electric shocks or drugs to make them sick, and then show them pictures of naked women or sending them out on a "date" with a young nurse for a reward.
The label of many mental diseases really is politically motivated. And to let the pharmaceutical industry vote mental disorders into existence, can only lead to the result that the effects of the drugs are called mental disorders.

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When they locked me up for half a year in 2005 in a psychiatric hospital, I saw a lot young people being tortured by psychiatry. The children that got antispsychotic drugs from 16 years old on, remained 16 year old children on an emotional level.
About 2 weeks ago I talked to a homeless man of about 37 years old. He told me he had been sentenced to ADHD when he was 5 years old. He said each day he starts with a joint and coffee and drinks more than 6 liters of beer every single day, and on special occasions he takes some other drugs to get in the mood to party. Not only did he deny that his alcohol and drug abuse is caused by being given Ritalin at a young age, he denied being an alcoholic (more than 6 liters beer every day). He wasn’t even dumb.

8.4 MILLION CHILDREN
Not one psychiatric drug has positive effects on the long term, and the objective of psychiatry is not to improve the mental health of people, but to find the soma of the Brave new world Aldous Huxley described, to make everybody nice and docile. Most of the psychiatric drugs on children are used for conditions for which they haven’t been approved (or tested) for their age group. Children cannot protect themselves from sadistic psychiatrists. So if children don’t have parents to protect them from the claws of psychiatry, and orphans have no family to protect them.
In the USA in 2013 a total of 8.4 million kids (0-17 years) got psychiatric drugs, including 4.4 million kids with the non-existent disease “ADHD”, including 1.1 million very young children (0-5 years) and even 274 thousand babies (younger than 2 years): https://www.cchrint.org/psychiatric-...hiatric-drugs/
From 2013 to 2014 the amount of prescriptions for babies went from 13,000 to 20,000 prescriptions for psychotropic drugs: http://www.medicaldaily.com/psychiat...chotics-365236
Psychiatric drugs for children is also exploding in England. From 2000 to 2012 the amount of prescriptions for ADHD drugs almost quadrupelled from 270 thousand to over 1 million units.


QUARTER OF FOSTER CHILDREN
Between 1995 and 2000 the number of prescriptions for psychotropic drugs for US children more than doubled. Foster children are prescribed psychotropic drugs at a rate 12 times higher than other children on Medicaid. In the USA 7.5% of schoolchildren (6-17 years) are on psychiatric drugs. A study from Rutgers University showed that at least 75% of the children on antipsychotics get them for uses not approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA): http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...-drug-use.aspx
About 4,300 of Colorado’s 16,800 foster children (more than 25%) were prescribed psychotropic drugs in 2012. Among teens in foster care (10-17 years) 37% were on psychotropic drugs. Kids take higher-than-recommended doses or multiple antipsychotics for long stretches: http://www.denverpost.com/2014/04/12...g-foster-kids/
There’s also a familiar description of the effects of antipsychotics:
Diego said he spent most of his teenage years forcing down anti-psychotics he didn’t want to take, drugs that eliminated his lows and his highs, made him numb. One of his foster fathers had a timer that went off at medication time. The four boys living in basement bunking quarters would traipse upstairs for their doses and glasses of water.
“I didn’t know how to feel. I was on autopilot, going through the motions,” said Diego, who was part of the state panel that reviewed psychotropic use in foster care.
He gained 25 pounds, a common side effect of Risperdal. On medication, exercising made his “blood boil” with aggression instead of reducing stress, he said. He lied to his psychiatrist in hopes of lower doses. “I felt like if I would reveal my true self,” he said, “they were going to up the dosage.”

Foster children (in Colorado) get 5 times as much psychotropic drugs (25.7%) as other children (4.5%); a lot of them take even 2 or more drugs at the same time.


HORRIBLE EXAMPLES: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/art-le...b_6966454.html
An overmedicated teen in foster care, Steven Unangst, died in Antioch, California; a 4-year-old on four psychotropic drugs; a 16-year-old on 6 psychiatric drugs. A 10 year-old with ADHD was given antipsychotics with the following “side” effects: paranoia, hostility, unstable mood, hallucinations, and suicidal thoughts.
In California nearly 25% foster care teens is on antipsychotics. According to Dr. Stefan Kruszewski: “About 95 to 97 percent of the children that I treat that are getting antipsychotics are given them for reasons that aren’t approved by the FDA”.
Creating the impression of scientific evidence for TMAP was a series of rigged, skewed and ghost-written studies funded by Johnson and Johnson’s Janssen division.
A known effect of Risperdal is growing breasts with boys. Do you think that a boy with breasts that’s insecure, suffers from a mental disease or would any young man with breasts get mental problems?

HOMOS IN PSYCHIATRY - DSM
Until 1973 “homosexuality” was considered a mental disease according to the DSM (only in 1987 this view was abolished). The inclusion of homosexuality as a “mental disorder” and then getting rid of it (as a mental disease) was – both - politically motivated (and in accordance with Christian morals). Very scientific this was decided by a vote of the all-knowing DSM-panel. According to today’s (political) standards saying that somebody is mentally ill for no other reason than being a “homo” is discrimination: http://behaviorismandmentalhealth.co...hat-went-away/
Maybe you want to know how they treated homosexuals: much like the neo-Pavlovian conditioning of Brave new world. Showing male patients pictures of naked men while giving them electric shocks or drugs to make them sick, and then show them pictures of naked women or sending them out on a "date" with a young nurse for a reward.
The label of many mental diseases really is politically motivated. And to let the pharmaceutical industry vote mental disorders into existence, can only lead to the result that the effects of the drugs are called mental disorders.
Thanks for that excellent post. I hope whoever does the David Icke Healines can highlight these facts to a wider audience.
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As a child I already knew that corrupt (medical) doctors are bribed by the pharmaceutical industry, with: all-expense paid holidays under the guise of study or money for speeches (lectures).
I sometimes think that censorship in the Netherlands is complete, but I did find an interesting website that (almost) nobody knows about. Information about the money doctors receive from companies: http://www.transparantieregister.nl/...rantieregister

The first court order that sentenced me to being locked up in a psychiatric hospital in 2005 because I’m oh so dangerous, was based on the medical assessment of psychiatrist Jules Tielens. Without examining me, he decided in December 2004 that I suffer from both schizophrenia and the Asperger syndrome (a form of autism). He also phantasised that it is highly probable that I would set my house on fire.
Later psychiatrist Tielens was asked by “my” attorney Christiaan Oberman for an expert testimony, in which Tielens stated I misbehaved terribly towards my employer ABN AMRO because of being psychotic.

I only first talked to psychiatrist Tielens after I filed a medical complaint, where it amazed me how dumb this piece of shit is. One of the grounds of my complaint was that he had lied in his medical assessment, which I supported with evidence that several psychiatrists (that did actually talk to me) decided that I am not schizophrenic nor autistic. Tielens replied that this doesn’t matter because there is no difference between schizophrenia and psychosis.

These are the highest payments (bribes) Tielens received in 2013, 2014, 2015.
In 2013 Tielens received 32.300 euro from Janssen-Cilaq.
In 2014 Tielens received 18.690 euro from Janssen-Cilaq.
In 2015 Tielens received 20.685 euro from Janssen-Cilaq.

In 2005 they poisoned me with Risperdal (that was even worse than Zyprexa). In the Netherlands Risperdal is sold (imported) by Janssen-Cilaq B.V..
Is it coincidental that the same Tielens that’s paid tens of thousands of euros per year by the pharmaceutical industry is nothing but a walking advertisement commercial for psychiatric drugs?
I’ve seen one of his childish presentations in which he claims that the biggest problems for psychiatry are that patients deny their disease and refuse or stop taking psychiatric drugs. How’s that for a premeditated psychiatrist?

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The recently appointed Prime Minister of Britain - Theresa May - is advocating the (mandatory) review of all children and adolescent across the country for mental health so that Britain can become a “shared society”: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38548567
Is this the “shared society” where the poor do all the work while the rich get all the money? When you only look to the figures on psychiatric problems some 100 years ago it’s easy to see the errors – notably her claim that 25% of adults have a mental illness.

The United States Preventive Services Task Force has also recommended the screening of all children between 12 and 18 years of age for mental disorders: http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...hildren-adults
Even the Sandy Hook hysteria has been used to advocate that more people should be treated by mental health care: http://www.courant.com/opinion/hc-op...308-story.html
Naturally mandatory tests for mental health would be useless without forced psychiatric treatment.

I will compute what this mandatory testing means based on the following example.
I will take for the estimated percentage of the population with a psychiatric disorder 0.2% in accordance with the percentage at the beginning of the 20th century.
I will assume that the tests for mental disorders are 85% reliable; that is if either 100 “sane” or “insane” people are tested for a mental disorder 15 are put in the wrong category. I am convinced that the assessment of mental disorders is nowhere near this (high) reliability.
The reason that the tests to establish mental disorders are unreliable is because the objective of psychiatry is not mental “health care”, but population control. Here’s an article by Bruce Levine that has reached a similar conclusion as me - anti-authoritarians are labelled mentally ill for political reasons: https://www.madinamerica.com/2012/02...-mentally-ill/

I will compute the percentages for 1 million people which means an estimated 2000 (0.2%) are mentally ill and 998,000 are “sane”.
Of the “sane” 998,000 we can expect that 15% are erroneously labelled mentally ill – 149,700.
Of the “insane” 2000 we can expect that 85% are rightfully labelled as mentally ill – 1,700.
In this example the mandatory assessment of mental health (that the government is pushing for) results in a percentage of 98.88% of psychiatric victims that are forced to psychiatric treatment without a psychiatric disorder.

If you don’t believe the reliability of the psychiatric assessment is “only” 85% you still have to conclude that mandatory testing would lead to many victims that get tortured (poisoned) by psychiatry without reason.
If you believe that 25% of the adults suffer of a mental disease you could very well be one of the unlucky 0.2%.
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The recently appointed Prime Minister of Britain - Theresa May - is advocating the (mandatory) review of all children and adolescent across the country for mental health so that Britain can become a “shared society”: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38548567
Is this the “shared society” where the poor do all the work while the rich get all the money? When you only look to the figures on psychiatric problems some 100 years ago it’s easy to see the errors – notably her claim that 25% of adults have a mental illness.
That's why they cut peoples benefits - so they can get a fair share of benefits...

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Old 24-02-2017, 03:53 PM   #78
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I haven´t provided information on effective treatment for mental health problems in this thread yet.
I know of only one treatment that is effective to prevent and treat mental health problems - sports. My short summary of the beneficial effects of sports are: it´s an outlet for frustration and gives confidence (it’s also good for your physical health by the way).

The greatest beneficial effects of sports are achieved when doing it with others. Group contacts in themselves can prevent mental disease (unless of course you’re a Targeted Individual that gets harassed by undercover cops).
There is only one problem: it only works when you enjoy doing it, because doing something that you hate is stressful in itself.
I found 3 scientific looking reports that conclude that physical exercise is effective in the treatment of depression (that’s the nr. 1 mental health problem).


L.L. Craft et al – The Effect of Exercise on Clinical Depression and Depression Resulting from Mental Illness: A Meta-Analysis (1998): http://sadrunner-website-downloads.s...Depression.pdf
This is a meta-analysis of 30 studies.
Since at least 1905 the effect of exercise in the treatment of depression has been studied.
Table 2 shows that a significant Effect Size (ES) is achieved by exercise treatment (negative means less depressed): -0.53 averagely.


Table 4 shows that the effects depend on the duration, intensity and frequency of the exercise, the most effective exercise is: of an average duration of less than 20 minutes; 3 times a week; for a period of more than 8 weeks; in a “lab” setting (fitness increases depression?!).


D. A Lawlor et al - The effectiveness of exercise as an intervention in the management of depression: systematic review and meta-regression analysis of randomised controlled trials (2001): http://www.bmj.com/content/322/7289/763.short
This is a meta-analysis of 14 studies.
Exercise significantly reduced symptoms of depression. The effect size becomes less with the passing of time after the exercise period has stopped. The effect of exercise was similar to cognitive therapy.
The following figure shows that in 9 out of 10 studies exercise had beneficial effects.



J.A. Blumenthal et al - Exercise and Pharmacotherapy in the Treatment of Major Depressive Disorder (2007): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2702700/
This is a real study, instead of only a meta-analysis.
A previous study by this group demonstrated that exercise was effective in reducing depressive symptoms in 156 older patients with Major Depression Disorder (MDD).
In this study they tried to include a placebo control group, but (for obvious reasons) couldn´t make a placebo exercise group.
They studied the effects in 202 adults older than 40 years, diagnosed with MDD for 16 weeks of: supervised group exercise; home-based exercise; and an antidepressant medication (sertraline) or placebo without exercise. The patients weren´t undergoing psychiatric treatment before the study started.
31% patients on sertraline suffered from diarrhoea and loose stools compared with 21% in home-based exercise, 10% in supervised exercise, and 12% in the placebo group.
The study showed that supervised exercising has a greater effect than home exercise, maybe because the supervised group exercised with more intensity (achieving a higher heart rate).
All the groups noticed positive effects, in remission after 16 weeks were: 40% of home-based exercise (Home), 45% of MDD patients supervised exercise (Sup.), 47% on medication (Med.), and 31% receiving placebo (Plac.) - see figure 3.
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ECT does/did not give relief from depressions but gave patients massive headaches and feeling as if neck broken when they came around and then they still felt like killing themselves,very cruel treatment. Prescribed psych drugs are no better all prescribed drugs for anythng are poisons with side effects fillers and binders some with nasty E numbers contraindicated for good thyroid function and sucrose in liquid stuff...and so make thyroid underactive and some of symptoms can resemble schizophrenia in some people and then fact is all drugs lower Magnesium the mineral responsible for 300 enzymes functions and we are deficient in minerals and vitamins anyway these days. Magnesium is very calming for one thing. Exercise is a lot of baloney too as it is with what was prescribed for ME CBT Cognitive Behaviour Therapy saying all in the mind when it was not so although mind and body is interconnected and this is where so called conventional medicine is wrong in treating symptoms as if body and mind is isolated..actually exercise in ME was found to increase Lactic acid and inflammation causing muscle pain. Think back to freedoms of our ancestry running wild Paleolithic but not too much, hunting for wild kill meats and berries...they did gentle exercise. All drugs lower thyroid function as does bereavement and accidents,see Dr Mark Sircus OMD doctor of oriental medicine and one of his books Trandermal Magnesium, he wrote another on Magnascent Iodine,see also www.magnascent.com

If someone is suffering from depression no way can they exercise as with lowered thyroid function which can also happen from hidden allergies.

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ECT is possibly even worse than psychiatric drugs, that experts describe as a chemical lobotomy.

If I understand you correctly, you’re writing that sports for a treatment of depression don’t work, because you despise it – it even causes muscle ache.
I do not understand how you could get “increase Lactic acid” because of exercise.

Maybe I should have added to my last post that a lot of patients stopped with the exercise treatment in the 16-week study, probably for similar reasons as you. When you hate physical exercise I guess that being forced to do sports will only make you more depressed.
I would like to add that there is also physical activity at a lower intensity that isn’t considered “sports” but still has positive effects for body and soul (and don’t cause muscle pains). When you’ve exercised for a couple of weeks, usually the muscle ache gets less.

In my opinion your advice for the “wonder medicine” Magnesium, is no good.

I try to think with you.
I guess that finding something to do can help prevent a depression, although when you’re already too depressed to enjoy anything maybe isn’t even possible.
As far as hobbies go, posting on the Icke forum is as good a hobby as any.

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