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Old 29-07-2015, 12:33 PM   #21
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The UK campaign against sugar is led by:

Consensus Action on Salt and Health

http://www.actiononsalt.org.uk/

who, having achieved some success with that, turned their attention to sugar.

http://www.actiononsugar.org/

Comprising these public health "experts" ...

until the mood and concensus changes yet again ...


The recent "fruit juice" volte-face comes to mind.

Originally heavily promoted as beneficial, to the extent of being counted as one of "your five a day" veggies, until recently rescinded because of erm, sugar ...

Yet, it's all the manufacturers / consumers fault apparently ...


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Action on Sugar is a group of specialists concerned with sugar and its effects on health. It is successfully working to reach a consensus with the food industry and Government over the harmful effects of a high sugar diet, and bring about a reduction in the amount of sugar in processed foods. Action on Sugar is supported by 23 expert advisors.

Global expert advisors of Action on Sugar:

Professor Graham MacGregor, Professor of Cardiovascular Medicine at the Wolfson Institute, Queen Mary University of London and Chairman Action on Sugar

Dr Aseem Malholtra, Cardiologist

Professor Andrew Rugg-Gunn, Co-director of the Human Nutrition Research Centre, Royal Victoria Infirmary, Newcastle

Professor Aubrey Sheiham, Emeritus Professor of Dental Public Health, School of Life and Medical Sciences, University College London

Professor David Haslam, Chair at National Obesity Forum

Professor Jack Cuzick, Institute Director and Head of Centre for Cancer Prevention, Wolfson Institute of Preventive Medicine, Barts & The London School of Medicine, London

Professor John Wass, Professor of Endocrinology, Oxford University

Professor Peter Sever, Professor of Clinical Pharmacology & Therapeutics, Faculty of Medicine, National Heart & Lung Institute, Imperial College London

Professor Philip James, Public Health policy Group and International Obesity Taskforce, London

Professor Simon Capewell, Professor of Clinical Epidemiology, University of Liverpool

Professor Sir Nicholas Wald, Professor of Environmental and Preventive Medicine, Wolfson Institute of Preventive Medicine, Barts & The London School of Medicine, London

Professor Timothy Lang, Professor of Food Policy, City University, London

Dr Robert Lustig, Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology at University of California, San Francisco, USA

Dr Yoni Freedhoff, Assistant professor of Family Medicine, University of Ottawa, Canada

Dr Mike Rayner, Director of the British Heart Foundation Health Promotion Research Group, Nuffield Department of Population Health, University of Oxford

Professor Jack Winkler, Professor of Nutrition Policy (retired), London Metropolitan University, London

Malcolm Kane, Cambridge Food Control Ltd, Cambridge

Neville Rigby, Writer, journalist and NGO consultant, former director of policy and public affairs at the International Obesity Task Force

Tam Fry, Head spokesperson for the National Obesity Forum

Professor Peter Whincup, Professor of Cardiovascular Epidemiology, St George's, University of London

Professor Richard J Johnson, Department of Medicine, University of Colorado Denver

Katharine Jenner, Registered Nutritionist (Public Health)

Modi Mwatsama, Registered Nutritionist (Public Health)


It would be interesting to know of their responses to the reported Aspartame issues and public health ...


One of the reasons why the UK's International Health Service is such a useful political tool is because it provides great utility for control ...


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Old 29-07-2015, 12:36 PM   #22
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Related, I noticed Robinson's ditched their sugar versions quite recently, you can only seem be able to buy No Added Sugar variants.
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Old 29-07-2015, 02:21 PM   #23
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The fact is you have given this PR stunt a prime place on the DI forum.
So what's the problem with that then? To be honest I'm only mentioning the Ribena ban that tesco are doing and giving my opinion of it. What's wrong with that?
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Old 29-07-2015, 03:03 PM   #24
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You can't move around here for the corpses of those poisoned by aspartame! We just step over them all now. I've phoned the council and complained loads of times. No-one comes to clear them away.

I had a can of Diet Coke once. I expect I'll be next...

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Old 29-07-2015, 03:46 PM   #25
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Pretty good news but the kids will be blackmarketing them at school.
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Old 29-07-2015, 04:47 PM   #26
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Bastards taking peoples responsibility on what we should put into our mouths, if they really cared about our health then half of the products in stores would be took of their shelves.

Ribena is one of my favourite drinks not to mention is doesn't contain shite like aspartame, its hard to find a drink these days without that shite in, so Tesco would rather have artificial sugers then the good old natural stuff in our drinks. I'm sure Tesco is run by Nazis.
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Old 29-07-2015, 08:44 PM   #27
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Bastards taking peoples responsibility on what we should put into our mouths, if they really cared about our health then half of the products in stores would be took of their shelves.

Ribena is one of my favourite drinks not to mention is doesn't contain shite like aspartame, its hard to find a drink these days without that shite in, so Tesco would rather have artificial sugers then the good old natural stuff in our drinks. I'm sure Tesco is run by Nazis.
Welcome to the nanny state where corporations tell you when to eat shit and sleep because they said so, i used to like drinking the strawberry flavoured ribena but i stopped drinking it a long time ago.

And yes it's true, it's harder to find any drink that is aspartame free these days.

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Related, I noticed Robinson's ditched their sugar versions quite recently, you can only seem be able to buy No Added Sugar variants.
It has been a very long time since i enjoyed drinking Robinsons, i cring and feel sorry for all the tennis players who have to drink that shit at Wimbledon for promotional reasons, it's really not going to help thier performance.
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Old 29-07-2015, 09:33 PM   #28
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This thread makes me cringe ......WTF is going on here ???
a debate about fucking Tesco's PR stunt and Ribena ?? REALLY ??? is this what we have come to ????
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Old 29-07-2015, 10:52 PM   #29
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What a load of crap. Doesn't Tesco know that sugar free drinks are worse that the sugar alternatives. This is just another way to poison the general public with aspartame. Fortunately I don't touch those awful aspartame loaded diet drinks.
spot on, my EXACT thought when i read this, it is to poison people with cancer. No kidding last week i was watching the (cough) news one day and they said 1 in 3 would get cancer the next day the figure was 1 in 2. They are killing us.
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Old 29-07-2015, 11:10 PM   #30
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spot on, my EXACT thought when i read this, it is to poison people with cancer. No kidding last week i was watching the (cough) news one day and they said 1 in 3 would get cancer the next day the figure was 1 in 2. They are killing us.
1 in 2 men and 1 in 3 women will be diagnosed with it in their lifetime
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Old 29-07-2015, 11:15 PM   #31
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1 in 2 men and 1 in 3 women will be diagnosed with it in their lifetime
Dam that Fruit based Cordial ...its killing us with cancer
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Old 29-07-2015, 11:20 PM   #32
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Dam that Fruit based Cordial ...its killing us with cancer
Some claim aspartame has mutagenic/carcinogenic effects, and this is one of the reasons why more foodstuffs have it in them.
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Old 29-07-2015, 11:25 PM   #33
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Some claim aspartame has mutagenic/carcinogenic effects, and this is one of the reasons why more foodstuffs have it in them.
And what ,Do you think anyone on the DI Forum has NO Idea about this already ????????? FFS

Its What David has been telling us for fucking years .....if you want to help go on to MumsNet and Tell them ...not us WE KNOW ALREADY !!!!!
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And what ,Do you think anyone on the DI Forum has NO Idea about this already ????????? FFS

Its What David has been telling us for fucking years .....if you want to help go on to MumsNet and Tell them ...not us WE KNOW ALREADY !!!!!
Its always nice to know the Dunning–Kruger effect is alive and well http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost....0&postcount=89 http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost....94&postcount=2
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Old 30-07-2015, 07:01 AM   #35
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tesco should ban alcohol next because it's bad for you, what about a good old roast? to much fat and salt you can't have that either, you see those chocolates there? nope i think we will be removing them aswell.

i hate the nanny state, what happened to choice? that is the whole point in shopping and supermarkets, you get a trolley and buy what you need and want at a convenience?
You can only make an educate choice of you've been told the truth. People are not allowed to make the correct choices wrt GMOs, fake sugar, etc. because all the people they look to to give them the knowledge to make an educated decision lie to them.

Our society is right in the middle of what will someday be called The Great Moral Decline. The financial system is corrupt, the economy is fake, all the politicians are bought and paid for, and the citizenry cares more about who won the football game and their next tweet. Greed, gluttony, vanity, shallowness, and dishonesty have permeated our entire society from top to bottom. This is why we are doomed to failure. Hopefully, the civilization that rises from the ashes will be a better than this one.

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Old 30-07-2015, 08:34 AM   #36
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Just walk past the fizzy drinks isle in the supermarket

Drink clean non-flouridated water and eat organic fruit and veg....just like your ancestors evolved your body to do
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Old 30-07-2015, 08:37 AM   #37
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Just walk past the fizzy drinks isle in the supermarket

Drink clean non-flouridated water and eat organic fruit and veg....just like your ancestors evolved your body to do
What's the benefit of this? Don't we live much longer now and enjoy healthier lives? Well, some of us who aren't gluttonous.

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Old 30-07-2015, 08:44 AM   #38
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@granny27 This is a conspiracy forum. Right? Well, the post about Tesco stopping selling Ribena was because it could be a conspiracy for the government to give everyone health problems from aspartame and the post was made for members to give their opinion of the move Tesco have made. If you have a problem with the post then why read it? This post wasn't meant to look like something from mums.net.
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:03 PM   #39
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You can only make an educate choice of you've been told the truth. People are not allowed to make the correct choices wrt GMOs, fake sugar, etc. because all the people they look to to give them the knowledge to make an educated decision lie to them.

Our society is right in the middle of what will someday be called The Great Moral Decline. The financial system is corrupt, the economy is fake, all the politicians are bought and paid for, and the citizenry cares more about who won the football game and their next tweet. Greed, gluttony, vanity, shallowness, and dishonesty have permeated our entire society from top to bottom. This is why we are doomed to failure. Hopefully, the civilization that rises from the ashes will be a better than this one.

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yep, good post.
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:54 PM   #40
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I had read somewhere that they are taking aspartame out of Pepsi (or was it Coke) in the US.

Does that mean they are concerned about litigation or have they found a more poisonous alternative, or just a cheaper sweetener? Or none of the above LOL
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