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Old 22-01-2018, 12:39 PM   #41
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Zhiba -

While I agree with you about doing good being beneficial to your soul, the last two sentences of your post are what really worries me.
As for his last two sentences, the tissues hold memory but also it's a link to the spirit of the person it belonged. This is used in some culture to call upon a certain dead person. In a way, you'll be linked with this person/spirit as the organ has been implanted in you.
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Old 22-01-2018, 03:03 PM   #42
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i'd like to imagine that at that point the soul is moving on and is in 9at least) contact with the next stage....

If we consider that helping others is a process of transformation on a soul level, then helping others in the time of physical death, or at least giving others a chance - this seems (to me) beneficial for soul...

Also, the soul is not physical, it empowers the physical for a time, before it moves on, and what occurs to the physical doesn't necessarily have to impact on the soul in a negative way.

I'm sure that in the physical, people manifest the soul desire - on a spiritual level we each try to manifest our highest and purest thought forms.... This may be the soul's purpose manifesting through our physicality.

If we choose to donate aspects of that physicality with the embrace of helping others, then as a soul purpose that wouldn't harm the soul, but might help it move to the next phase with some warmth that it has aided another?

i really don't think the soul would suffer from donation of the physical self organs to another - provided that donation was of it's own desire / decree.

But then sometimes we hear stories of people who have received an organ donation who take on some of the characteristics of the person who donated to them.

Is that a physical memory within the tissue of the donator's soul? That's an interesting one - and would certainly suggest some kind of anchor within the organ.
Could be a bit of genetic memory as its known that memories can be stored by genes.

I think the donation of organs to help save the lives of other people is nothing but a good thing. I would like to see these nay sayers look a dying person in the eye and tell them that maybe they should get on with their souls journey by refusing a transplant. In my eyes it makes them no better than Jehovahs witnesses who will risk the lives of their family members who need blood transfusions.
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Old 22-01-2018, 03:05 PM   #43
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As for his last two sentences, the tissues hold memory but also it's a link to the spirit of the person it belonged. This is used in some culture to call upon a certain dead person. In a way, you'll be linked with this person/spirit as the organ has been implanted in you.
We could argue that our bodies genetic ties link us to generations of people who lived before us and their spirits. If so, then why is it a problem being linked to another person? are we not all connected via consciousness anyway?
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:48 PM   #44
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I've opted out of organ donation, not sure wether it's valid, as I believe it will affect my energy or soul on its next journey, and I'm not sure the website I did it on was genuine.

Doctors are good at evolving their knowledge of the human body, but they know very little about our connection to the stars and universal energy.

The ancient Egyptians used nature and its calendar when carrying out treatments, predicting the best date and time to carry out procedures or administer natural remedies.

They even assigned a name for each hour of the day, we just give them a number in this generation.

There's thousands of years of human history. Why would we think we are the most advanced? Human thinking evolves, I can confirm this as I am lucky enough to have been alive for a total of 57 years. My thinking today is very different to the way I thought 10 years ago. Even 1 hour ago lol!

On an offshoot, I've also read horror stories about organ donors, where they are not clinically dead, they have their organs removed without anasthetic, and clinicians have to physically restrain them whilst doctors slice them open and harvest their organs.
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Old 10-07-2018, 07:37 PM   #45
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I would never give my organs knowing very well that it could be missused. I. e. they would be harvested in case of heart and NO brain death.
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Old 10-07-2018, 08:06 PM   #46
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How about this; if you're not on the organ donation register then you're not entitled to an organ if you need one?

I'm registered and may need an organ sometime in the future, btw!









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Old 10-07-2018, 09:30 PM   #47
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It's your call wing bang.

I don't want other people's organs.
Can you imagine if you had Trump or Obama right up against you the whole time and you have to live with their vibes. Hibee Jibee.
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Old 13-07-2018, 11:02 PM   #48
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The brain can stay alive on tick-over for at least ten minutes after "brain death." that means you will feel your organs being cut out of your body.

https://nypost.com/2017/10/19/after-...study-reveals/

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In March, doctors at a Canadian intensive care unit discovered that one person had persistent brain activity for up to 10 minutes after they turned off their life support machine, but three others did not.

For more than 10 minutes after the medics declared the person clinically dead, brain waves, like those we experience in our sleep, continued to occur.
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Old 03-08-2018, 07:29 AM   #49
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Has anyone here actually ever had first hand experience with anyone or themselves has needed a transplant?
What if it where yourself or your child or loved on that needed one to save their life - would you still be against it then? could you honestly say NO if you where given the choice of your child having a new organ and leading a normal life or would you watch them deteriorate in front of your eyes?

I am speaking from first hand experience - my daughter who is 13 had her liver transplant a few weeks ago, without it she would not have made it past 15 yrs old. It was only diagnosed in March and by then it was too late for her own liver. She's doing amazingly well now and fingers crossed everything is working the way it should. Yes she does have to take anti rejection drugs for life, and if the levels of the drug are not monitored it can may be cause the body to not recognise cancer cells, but is monitored very regular.

I guess what i am trying to say is it's easy to say no i would never allow it to happen etc but you never truly know how it is until you are faced with that decision.
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Old 03-08-2018, 07:38 AM   #50
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How about this; if you're not on the organ donation register then you're not entitled to an organ if you need one?

I'm registered and may need an organ sometime in the future, btw!









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Arent we all registered as standard now and have to opt out?
Which is a cheek.
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Arent we all registered as standard now and have to opt out?
Which is a cheek.
I think that's the case if you're a Welsh, it's still opt-in in England.
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:48 PM   #52
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How about this; if you're not on the organ donation register then you're not entitled to an organ if you need one?

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Can I get written confirmation of that?

No way in hell (which is where you are currently) would I want another's 'body part'. Nor their 'blood'.

Just let me 'go'.

It's not like I'm going very far, not even a skip and a jump, it is literally still 'here'.

Do NOT resuscitate.
Do NOT remove ANY body parts.
Do NOT 'install' ANY body parts or artificial parts.
Do NOT give ANOTHER'S blood.
Do NOT touch the 'dead' (and I mean NO heart beat dead) body for 3 days.

Maybe I need a tattoo?

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Hey, I respect that, ink. Each to their own.
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Let's start from the beginning - we are NOT physical- only beings, we are ENERGY BEINGS at our true level - infinite consciousness - there is no such event as death as misunderstood physically.

We are supported in our 'life' by our human energy field, or as David would term it - our information field. This field interpenetrates the physical body and all its organs and systems.

Each user of a field operates at a personal frequency, this frequency includes all body systems and organs. This is the cause of the rejection of other people's organs, as the system identifies it as an invader/threat needing life-long chemical suppression.

There have been problems after a person has vacated the physical 'world' and has been, for several reasons, unable to tune out of the earth's programme. Their energy can still be attached to a physical organ which is maintaining 'life', and so we have people after transplant, developing a taste for unusual food, or as in one case, riding motor bikes, due to the continuing presence of the original user of the organ who needs specialist help to tune out of the Earth's atmosphere.

Until medicine and science stop looking at the physical aspect only, and ignoring the whole person, the only authentic way to use the current method is to use those who have the awareness to check that the original user is not present, and to clear the organ energetically before re-use.

But that may not be any time soon.................
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