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Old 19-06-2018, 01:31 PM   #1
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Default More EU control freakery- article 13

I freakin' hate the EU! The sooner we leave them the better!!! They are such control freaks. They want to control what people do online. Why don't they go after the nonces and pervs online? No, they don't mind those filth cos they are in their club! It's the normal everyday Joe they want. God forbid that Joe can sit in the privacy of his own home and go online without being tracked and blocked.



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Article 13 could "destroy the internet as we know it": What is it, why is it controversial and what will it mean for memes?
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Critics of the proposed EU directive on copyright warn that it could censor internet users.

Ahead of a major vote on EU copyright law, more than 70 leading technology figures have penned a joint letter condemning the Article 13 provision in the potential legislation – warning it could break the internet as we know it.

Among the signatories is the inventor of the World Wide Web, Tim Berners-Lee, Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales, and internet pioneer Vint Cerf. Together with the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and a gamut of other experts, they warn Article 13 “takes an unprecedented step towards the transformation of the internet, from an open platform for sharing and innovation, into a tool for the automated surveillance and control of its users”.

The letter highlights the cost of putting automatic filtering technologies in place to fulfill the new copyright rules, which they argue will hinder European startups and SMEs from competing with US firms. They draw particular attention to the effect of Article 13 on internet users, who would face a barrier to uploading and remixing everything from music and videos to computer code.

“We support the consideration of measures that would improve the ability for creators to receive fair remuneration for the use of their works online,” the letter reads. “But we cannot support Article 13, which would mandate Internet platforms to embed an automated infrastructure for monitoring and censorship deep into their networks.

“For the sake of the internet’s future, we urge you to vote for the deletion of this proposal.”

MEPs will vote on the proposed copyright directive on 20-21 June. Read on for more information on what Article 13 is, and what it could mean for the internet.

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http://www.alphr.com/politics/100947...s-it-copyright

I noticed that this is not in the headline news! They are planning to sneak it in before people can even notice the b--ds...

All the headlines seem to be about the royals and their silly dress ups lately. Oh and daft "reality" shows. Distract the sheeple.
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Old 19-06-2018, 02:37 PM   #2
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SAVE YOUR INTERNET - DELETE ARTICLE 13:

https://saveyourinternet.eu/act-now/

Paul Joseph Watson:

THE EU IS ABOUT TO BAN MEMES... And destroy the Internet as we know it.


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Old 20-06-2018, 05:15 PM   #3
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I can't believe there's not more of an uproar about this. MEPs voted in favour of it today! NO!

Perhaps this thread should be moved to Today's News, mods?


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Old 20-06-2018, 11:02 PM   #4
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I can't believe there's not more of an uproar about this. MEPs voted in favour of it today! NO!

Perhaps this thread should be moved to Today's News, mods?


Of course they voted in favour the gits! It's not in the main news so most people know nothing about it, sneaky b-ds.
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Old 21-06-2018, 12:40 AM   #5
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Sneaky bar stewards indeed. Although it's not law as yet, but approved to go on to the next stage. It would be disastrous for people to sit and be ignorant about Article 13, and 11, until the day before it's potentially implemented and then the thought goes through their head: "What the fuck is this?"
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Also, wasn't Net Neutrality just abolished too?
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Old 21-06-2018, 09:13 AM   #7
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I am all for the eu, and the highly regulated society.

But i doubt they could control the net, look at china, although china may have a minimal amount of control, they i am sure, know people have ways round there controls.

The internet is like the wild west, and humans without controls, go totally absurd.
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I am all for the eu, and the highly regulated society.
Hope that was tongue in cheek!

So if Article 13 comes in websites would have to have a copyright filter, effectively people would be censored by computers. As an added benefit, the filters would by proxy create surveillance. Like that idea, do you?!

On this thread, there's a couple of links. Under Article 11 those links would cost money or not be allowed, ditto the image I posted, that would be covered by Article 13!

There's possibly a way around this and that's to move servers out of the EU and block users in the EU from viewing the website on the server. People inside the EU would then just need a VPN! So all this could be a big waste of time, anyway! It all depends on if and how it's implemented.
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they must miss the good old days when they controlled the narrative by TV and print media

obviously they don't like the idea of people sharing information with each other outside of their ideology

can anyone say '' desperate attempt to regain control '' ?
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they must miss the good old days when they controlled the narrative by TV and print media

obviously they don't like the idea of people sharing information with each other outside of their ideology

can anyone say '' desperate attempt to regain control '' ?
Exactly that. Hows about manipulative bulk copyright claims to get rid of any political view you like that's on the internet?
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Old 23-06-2018, 05:17 AM   #11
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How will blog writers get copyright protection for their output?

Scanning of everything the blog writer's uploads by their ISP does not tell the whole internet about the originality of the work.

Is the proposal for ISPS around the world to synchronize efforts or is it just intending to synchronize those based in the EU?

Will lots of creative ideas be stolen permanently by big media companies and ISPS with the latter automatically protecting the theft?
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In the US a new telnet is being tested. Being a retired member as of Oct. 28 least year I don't get to try it yet. Hyper transfer speeds that are only limited by the ethernet card you own are possible. The throttle of your modem/broadband will choke you back to your connection speed. The main problem of the system is lack of history for the testers and building confidence with telnet users. it takes time to gain trust that you are not hacking or spreading viruses.

There are not just new ways to replace the net, there are some old and tried solutions. You may have heard about microwave TV that was used in the past. We are looking at the tech that was behind it. Belief is we can direct transmissions in the same manner cheaply across the country. The final solution may be to create a competitive extra net using telnet protocalls. It will not be called a net and the name may change thousands of times so it cannot be regulated. That at the moment is the US plan. I would like to hear what plans are being made in the EU at this time. I have heard that a section of the dark net is under consideration?
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How will blog writers get copyright protection for their output?
If we use YouTube's copyright system as an example then there's plenty of users falling foul for not having copyright for their own works. Not a solution here, but check this out:

https://techcrunch.com/2009/07/23/ar.../?guccounter=1

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I would like to hear what plans are being made in the EU at this time. I have heard that a section of the dark net is under consideration?

I like your thinking. Across to the dark side, with Tor, or other means, as a precursor to an advanced alternative non bureaucratic non regulated free global network could be where it's at. In fact, is where it's at. And that looks likely given the current status quo. *Development Needed* I mean, who needs pop-ups and regulatory nonsense boxes to check and more nonsense?

The populous will simply not tolerate this crap, IMHO.
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they must miss the good old days when they controlled the narrative by TV and print media

obviously they don't like the idea of people sharing information with each other outside of their ideology

can anyone say '' desperate attempt to regain control '' ?
Spot on mate!
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"The Copyright Directive, which contained the particularly concerning Article 13, was rejected by 318 votes to 278, with 31 abstentions. The EU’s proposed copyright reforms will now be debated again in September, giving policymakers more time to discuss and refine the crucial dossier."

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/artic...irective-memes
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"The Copyright Directive, which contained the particularly concerning Article 13, was rejected by 318 votes to 278, with 31 abstentions. The EU’s proposed copyright reforms will now be debated again in September, giving policymakers more time to discuss and refine the crucial dossier."

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/artic...irective-memes
Good news! Hope it gets thrown out.
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