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Old 23-02-2013, 05:17 PM   #52741
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I will take on Scotland, just basically send me a pm of how your collating the info so we keep it all in the same format
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Old 23-02-2013, 05:21 PM   #52742
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Thanks for validation and succinct summary -it's where my thoughts were trending too

The underlying politics of all this are part of the key. What is horrifying is that the 'trade' in children goes back a long long time:

A CHILD MIGRATION TIMELINE
1607 First permanent English settlement at Jamestown, Virginia, on
the north American coast.
1615 Labour shortage. The Privy Council sanctions the
transportation of convicted felons to Virginia and the West
Indian island colonies such as Bermuda.
1617 London Common Council and the Virginia Company consider
sending ‘vagrant’ children (street kids) to Virginia.
1619 First 100 vagrant children rounded up and despatched to
Virginia; venture declared a success; second group planned.
1620 (January) Opposition to child migration; first group sent
illegally, but 31 January the Privy Council authorises child
migration
. Second 100 children sent to America.
1622 Indian massacre of 350 settlers in Virginia in the wake of
which another 100 vagrant children were sent among the
reinforcements.
1645 Corporation for the Propagation of the Gospel in New England
arranges the emigration of some 200 poor children (not,
however ‘vagrants’) to North American colonies. The children
were escorted to the colonies by members of the society.
‘Spiriting’ (ie kidnapping) children for work in Americas had
grown to meet the perennial labour shortage in the colonies.
Bristol the main port of emigration. Parliament passes an
ordinance to make spiriting a felony.
1664 An office was created, under Roger Whitely, to register
intended emigrants leaving British ports for the Americas.
Spiriting continues; registering not a success.
1682 Privy Council creates another department to register young
persons leaving for the colonies to counter the activities of
unscrupulous emigration agents and ‘spirits’.
1698 (September) Flying Post newspaper reporter claims he
observed ‘about 200’ kidnapped boys held on a ship in the
Thames awaiting departure for the colonies.

http://www.goldonian.org/barnardo/child_migrationl.htm

There's a very sorry history to be read - sanctioned and implemented by our government - and we know for whom they act and to whom they swear allegiance.
Now remember Lizzy's 1st Cousin's family wealth came from the Slave Trade plus he himself was Big Honcho in Canada, representing Lizzy and he had Australian connections plus this family had illegitimate kids here and all over the world plus just found out one of them worked as a tour promotor, then Virgin Records then Chrysalis Records
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Old 23-02-2013, 05:24 PM   #52743
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Gary glitter moved in same circles in the early days and worked for diana dors.

Interesting point at the bottom of the page about the album he released online after release from prison: tom watson was the outraged mp who spoke out about it.

http://everything2.com/title/Gary+Glitter

Anyone know of martin jenkins the songwriter who worked with glitter on this album?

Lots of names in the article and mentions that he was dropped from children in need when arrested.
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Old 23-02-2013, 05:41 PM   #52744
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I will take on Scotland, just basically send me a pm of how your collating the info so we keep it all in the same format
Heres some Scottish Barnardos homes that were in use until the 70s:


Barnardo's homes - Scotland
Balcary, New Road, Hawick, Roxburghshire
Blackford Brae, 31 South Oswald Road, Edinburgh
Blairhill, Rumbling Bridge, Kinross
Camusrory, Loch Nevis, Nr Mallaig, Inverness-shire
Castle Milk, Lockerbie, Dumfries
Cloan, Auchterarder, Perthshire
Comlongon Castle Ruthwell, Dumfries
Craigerne, Peebles
Cruachan (in grounds of Ravelrig)
Foswell, Auchterarder, Perthshire
Glasclune, North Berwick, East Lothian
Haldane House, Bogside-by-Alloa, Fife
Ravelrig House, Balerno, Mid Lothian
Springkell, Eaglesfield, Dumfries
Stapleton Towers, Annan, Dumfries
Thorntoun School, Cross House, Nr Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
Tyneholme House, Pencaitland, Nr Edinburgh
Winton Drive, Kelvindale, Glasgow
23 Winton Drive, Kelvindale, Glasgow

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_...s_scotland.htm

All the rest in the UK are listed here:

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_...rdos_homes.htm
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Old 23-02-2013, 05:44 PM   #52745
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Interesting quote from townshend:

In 2002 Townshed wrote in a paper (see Smoking Gun article) 'that the "pathway to 'free' pedophilic imagery is--as it were--laid out like a free line of cocaine at a decadent cocktail party: only the strong willed or terminally uncurious can resist.'

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/cr...-lame-defence/


http://www.abusewatch.net/CAN_NFL_Townshend.php

http://www.abusewatch.net/CAN_Townshend_media_facts.php
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Old 23-02-2013, 06:13 PM   #52746
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Re the Scottish carehomes, you may like to PM Geo57 for info. They are still hurting, but want to help to get the whole lot into the open. (as posted by Geo57 a good many pages back).

This is such a spiders web of paedo shuffling, get a bit hot in one area, move to another - normally with promotion - that really grates.

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Old 23-02-2013, 06:18 PM   #52747
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Heres some Scottish Barnardos homes that were in use until the 70s:


Barnardo's homes - Scotland
Balcary, New Road, Hawick, Roxburghshire
Blackford Brae, 31 South Oswald Road, Edinburgh
Blairhill, Rumbling Bridge, Kinross
Camusrory, Loch Nevis, Nr Mallaig, Inverness-shire
Castle Milk, Lockerbie, Dumfries
Cloan, Auchterarder, Perthshire
Comlongon Castle Ruthwell, Dumfries
Craigerne, Peebles
Cruachan (in grounds of Ravelrig)
Foswell, Auchterarder, Perthshire
Glasclune, North Berwick, East Lothian
Haldane House, Bogside-by-Alloa, Fife
Ravelrig House, Balerno, Mid Lothian
Springkell, Eaglesfield, Dumfries
Stapleton Towers, Annan, Dumfries
Thorntoun School, Cross House, Nr Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
Tyneholme House, Pencaitland, Nr Edinburgh
Winton Drive, Kelvindale, Glasgow
23 Winton Drive, Kelvindale, Glasgow

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_...s_scotland.htm

All the rest in the UK are listed here:

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_...rdos_homes.htm
oh thanks for this
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Old 23-02-2013, 06:22 PM   #52748
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Someone posted a photo of that Capri earlier in the thread.
I keep looking, but haven't found it again yet.

Was particularly interested, because the Capri mentioned in
the Elm Documents, and supposedly used by the spooks
trailing Carol, was first registered in Leeds.

Jimmy Savile's Capri RS3100 - where is it now?:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1213826

Cliff's Capri: http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/cars-motor...s-soup-up.html



His Capri RS3100.

Apparently it was a Ford press car that was white at first then black with Gold stripes and was last recorded as Sebring Red, confirmed here:

http://thumbsnap.com/sc/SrlHigPi.jpg


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=101...

Apparently it used to have a Hack's cough sweets logo on it along the lines of "Hack's tackles your tickle''

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Old 23-02-2013, 06:22 PM   #52749
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Re the Scottish carehomes, you may like to PM Geo57 for info. They are still hurting, but want to help to get the whole lot into the open. (as posted by Geo57 a good many pages back).

This is such a spiders web of paedo shuffling, get a bit hot in one area, move to another - normally with promotion - that really grates.
Will do thanks, once I talk to transcriber to make sure I do it right and get same info, format etc so it makes it easier to collate at the end!

Oh and I will revisit Geo57 posts to gather info. Thanks for this :-)
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Old 23-02-2013, 06:24 PM   #52750
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Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi criticises rumours surrounding Pope's resignation

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-8507223.html

The comments are worth the reading
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Old 23-02-2013, 06:26 PM   #52751
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Hello there, thank you very much for that if you are lurking and reading out there somewhere. I do like the generosity of this thread.

It's a brain fry all right!

I wanted to try to compile a simple list of institutions, by county, with brief notes, to show where child abuse is alleged to have occurred to try to prove to myself that it could not have been that bad, and to give us something to build on.

I'm now drowning in a document that will rival the Elm Papers in length if I see it through and I'm not even sure why I'm doing it. And that's just from cursory online searches and your links, without tapping into the fantastic collective memory on here.

Children's Homes, from the 1950s on, and probably before although I don't have proof, were controlled by paedophiles. Of that there can be no doubt.
Crikey, that's a bold and terrifying statement to see. And one which I can fully believe unfortunately.

There is a list in drop down section here under 'social workers' which detail some childrens homes involved; dont know if you've got them already?
http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/category/social-worker/

For instance,
''Man jailed for abusing vulnerable children in care
Gordon Oliver's offences began while he was team leader at the former Springfield Children’s Home near Bradford Royal Infirmary.''

Oh, just noticed there's a children's home/boarding school's section too (141 results!)
http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/category...rding-schools/

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Old 23-02-2013, 06:27 PM   #52752
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His Capri RS3100.

Apparently it was a Ford press car that was white at first then black with Gold stripes and was last recorded as Sebring Red, confirmed here:

http://thumbsnap.com/sc/SrlHigPi.jpg


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=101...

Apparently it used to have a Hack's cough sweets logo on it along the lines of "Hack's tackles your tickle''

Maybe "Hack's tickles your tackle'' would have been more appropriate for him!
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Old 23-02-2013, 06:32 PM   #52753
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Maybe "Hack's tickles your tackle'' would have been more appropriate for him!
....just what I thought
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Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi criticises rumours surrounding Pope's resignation

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-8507223.html

The comments are worth the reading
If he is 'resigning on Feb 28th when are they gonna lock themselves away (permanently preferably)................and elect a new Paedo Pope while we wait for the white smoke.....an inferno would be much more pleasing.
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Old 23-02-2013, 06:33 PM   #52755
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From 13th Feb:

“Steve Everett

Miles House
3 Thessley Road
Battersea SW11"

The only road I can find is 3 Thessaly Road SW8 4HR, which is down the Wandsworth Road end.

The only Miles House is in SE10. It is possible that another Miles House was renamed.

"Ramport Studios in Thessaly Road was created by The Who in the early 1970's. An old church was converted into a recording studio and much of The Who's music of the 1970'a was recorded there.

The most famous album associated with Ramport Studios is probably Quadrophenia, released in October 1973. Who Are You , released in August 1978, was also partly recorded at Ramport.

Accpording to local legend, Pete Townsend met the mod who eventually appeared on the sleeve notes of Quadrophenia (above left) when he went out to Condell Newsagents for more Players between recording sessions."

Other famous musicians of the time who recorded at Ramport Studios include: Brian Ferry, Thin Lizzy, Sparks, Supertramp and the Sex Pistols."
http://www.batterseapowerstation.org.uk/who/who.html
Ah so it was your post! Thanks.
Just catching up, sorry bit out of sync.
Still trying to work out what the initials M S mean before Townsend.
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Old 23-02-2013, 06:50 PM   #52756
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I was curious as to what were an MP's duties and obligations, so I went to look it up...............

To reiterate an earlier post, Parliamentarians swear an oath

Under the Parliamentary Oaths Act 1866, members of both Houses of Parliament are required to take an Oath of Allegiance upon taking their seat in Parliament,[12][13] after a general election, or by-election, and after the death of the monarch. Until the oath or affirmation is taken, an MP may not receive a salary, take their seat, speak in debates or vote. The usual wording of the oath is:

I... swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.

Members who object to swearing the oath are permitted to make a solemn affirmation under the terms of the Oaths Act 1978:

I... do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law.
This is deflating isnt it. Wonder how Dennis Skinner got through this?!

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This is a picture of Oxford Road, Manchester in early 1978, showing Tiffany's nightclub. Tiffany's was orginally called The Plaza, and Jimmy Saville used to run lunchtime rock 'n' roll dances there every week before he went on to Top of the Pops.

When a fight broke out, he'd leap to the middle of the stage and shout "Right my lads, get 'em", and his bouncers would come and knock the sh*t out of the lads doing the fighting...

Artefact added on 04.07.2007 by
Bernie Wilcox (27)


http://web.archive.org/liveweb/http:...d=2633&vid=176
And something to remember - Sutcliffe frequented Tiffany's himself - and got at least one of his victims from there, after following her home.
Scary but very true.
-Irene Richardson was on her way there night of killing
- Maureen Long had been there night of killing
Maybe others I cant recall.
Also;
''Police had already contemplated the possibility of the killer being a taxi driver. He would have a good knowledge of the area, enabling him to know the best haunts for prostitutes and the quiet, secluded areas that he could take them to. They had started questioning taxi drivers after Tina Atkinson's murder and now they increased that line of investigation.''
http://serialkillercalendar.com/Deta...Sutcliffe.html

Now is this another dream (hehe), or did Savile say he had a taxi driver license too?

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Old 23-02-2013, 06:55 PM   #52757
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Jimmy and his newest campervan.


http://www.motortorque.com/car-news/...vile-9845.aspx

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Old 23-02-2013, 07:01 PM   #52758
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I have received an reply from my e-mail sent on 18th Feb from my local MP:

"Thank you for your email.

I am already assisting Tom with his efforts on this.

If you could let me have your postal address I will be able to update you if there are any matters not widely published.

Yours sincerely

Adrian Sanders MP"
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Old 23-02-2013, 07:06 PM   #52759
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just seen this -

More revelations on alleged VIP abuse at Elm Guest House from @thesundaypeople and @ExaroNews coming up tonight.
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any reported abductions fitting the description of his vans during the years?
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