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Old 31-12-2009, 12:32 PM   #1
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What are we to do regarding these body scanners? I need to fly alot, i have no choice in the matter, but i do not want to put my body through 20-30 high energy X-Rays Per year, Doctors say you should not have more than 4 X-Rays per year, and these machines are higher powered than the X Rays used by doctors.

Surely this is a breach of my basic human right to life? If I go through these things every time i get on a flight i am going to die of cancer within 5 years...It is exactly the same for anyone else who flies regularily. What are we to do when these things are compulsory and you have to make a choice between either Cancer or never leaving your country. Also, how long is it going to be before they start introducing them in Football stadiums and Train Stations??

I dont really care about people seeing me naked, but this is going to cause serious health problems, i guess people will have to get used to people dropping down like flies at 30 from cancer from now on like its a normal thing. No doubt the elite will never have to use them.

Also, what about the people that operate the things they are going to be recieving massive doses of radiation daily.

It makes me so angry when i read comments saying commercial flight is not an obligatory thing, how else are you supposed to cross the atlantic??? There is no other way, other than possibly a container ship....

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Old 31-12-2009, 12:44 PM   #2
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not only does big brother have DNA / phone calls tapped / emails coppied and stored , and face profiles
it can now sercretly take photos of your naked body .

what a fkn planet we live on .








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Old 31-12-2009, 12:55 PM   #3
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What are we to do regarding these body scanners? I need to fly alot, i have no choice in the matter, but i do not want to put my body through 20-30 high energy X-Rays Per year,
I would absolutely refuse the scanner but in order to fly submit to a full strip search (without any touching or 'rubber gloves'). they have rooms for 'nude' searches, do not submit to any 'cavity search' tho
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Exclamation Body Scanners are cancer & sterilization machines!

Dr. Carl Clauberg conducted sterilization and castration experiments in auschwitz He tried to look for cheap and fast ways of sterilization and found X rays worked perfect. This is the continuation of his work on a large scale and should be stopped at once. Its the depopulation agenda under the guise of fighting terrorists and its a sickening act of desperation on there part.
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Old 31-12-2009, 02:08 PM   #6
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Avoid it at all costs. If everyone refuses, what can they do? The airlines will go belly up. Do as someone else says, request going into a room to be searched.

Fucking ridiculous. The radiation thing makes me so mad. I wanted to travel sometime in the future, guess I won;t be now.
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Dr. Carl Clauberg conducted sterilization and castration experiments in auschwitz He tried to look for cheap and fast ways of sterilization and found X rays worked perfect. This is the continuation of his work on a large scale and should be stopped at once. Its the depopulation agenda under the guise of fighting terrorists and its a sickening act of desperation on there part.
this.. yet another slow kill tactic. how transparent is it that this latest bomber just happened to hide stuff down his pants. not that i care, ive probably flown twice in 10 years, but many people have to fly alot for work and these scanners are so wrong in so many ways




perhaps when people realise that just about every item in their news these days could be seen as an attempt at thinning out the ranks, they will finally open their eyes.
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Old 31-12-2009, 06:06 PM   #9
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What about pregnant women I'm sure they would be exempt, but what if they don't know that they're pregnant? That's 1 x-ray to leave the country and 1 to get back in.

That's dangerous.
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Old 31-12-2009, 07:38 PM   #10
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Avoid it at all costs. If everyone refuses, what can they do? The airlines will go belly up.
This is the best solution. Okay, if you absolutely have to fly for work reasons, then you may have to bite the bullet. But I think everyone on here at the very least, should make a pact not to fly, and specifically not to expose themselves to this demeaning treatment. Go for a break somewhere in this country, there are loads of beautiful (if cold and rainy!) places in Britain. Buy yourself something expensive instead that you wouldn't usually consider. Eat and drink really extravagantly for a couple of months. Anything but this. I just feel strongly that this is something we should not co-operate with. You will be putting your own safety and freedom at serious risk if you protest at the airport, and being strip searched in a room may not expose you to X-rays, but it is equally, if not more, demeaning, and you are putting yourself in a very vulnerable position.

Just don't go along with it.
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Old 31-12-2009, 07:59 PM   #11
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It's not as easy as saying you won't fly. I myself, love flying! Ive loved it since i was a kid. And I love traveling, and I was just about to start seriously traveling around the world. This is only in the US right? So if youre not going there, you dont have to worry.
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Cancer scanning technology detects explosives
By Aimee Turner on May 20, 2009 11:57 AM | Permalink |ShareThis
Manchester Airport will be the first in the UK to buy a scanning system used in cancer hospitals to detect explosives in luggage.

It has ordered a Rapiscan RTT high-speed baggage screening system which uses computed tomography, or CT, scans of the type used in medicine to estimate the size of tumours.

Airports generally use x-rays to scan baggage because CT scans, although more effective, take too long. Rapiscan's new RTT machine , whose name stands for real time tomography, delivers 3-D images claims to work just as quickly as an x-ray.

The machine can also detect viscosity levels in liquids, alerting security staff to fluids containing explosives.

Rapiscan which is headquartered in California, owns a UK cargo division in Congleton which makes machines for scanning cargo and vehicles while its CXR research and development arm, set up a base in the UK in 2006 to collaborate with the University of Manchester on 3-D scanning.

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Old 31-12-2009, 08:13 PM   #13
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Also, I find this whole worry about cancer a little science fiction. There is no way that if you go through the scanner 10-20 times youre gona get cancer, that would basically just kill everyone within the next 10 years...and i doubt most countries will have them anyways, mainly the US and if your flying there.
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Also, I find this whole worry about cancer a little science fiction. There is no way that if you go through the scanner 10-20 times youre gona get cancer, that would basically just kill everyone within the next 10 years...and i doubt most countries will have them anyways, mainly the US and if your flying there.

Are you a doctor!




Officials must naturally defend compulsory passenger X-rays as harmless. But they are signing no guarantees because ionizing radiation in the X-ray spectrum damages and mutates both chromosomal DNA and structural proteins in human cells. If this damage is not repaired, it can lead to cancer. New research shows that even very low doses of X-ray can delay or prevent cellular repair of damaged DNA, raising questions about the safety of routine medical X-rays. Unborn babies can become grotesquely disfigured if their mothers are irradiated during pregnancy. Heavily X- rayed persons of childbearing age can sustain chromosomal damage, endangering offspring. Radiation damage is cumulative and each successive dose builds upon the cellular mutation caused by the last. It can take years for radiation damage to manifest pathology.

A leading U.S. expert on the biological effects of X-radiation is Dr. John Gofman, Professor Emeritus of Molecular and Cell Biology, University of California, Berkeley. Dr. Gofman’s exhaustive research leads him to conclude that there is NO SAFE DOSE-LEVEL of ionizing radiation. His studies indicate that radiation from medical diagnostics and treatment is a causal co-factor in 50 percent of America’s cancers and 60 percent of our ischemic (blood flow blockage) heart disease. He stresses that the frequency with which Americans are medically X-rayed “makes for a significant radiological impact.”

This highly credentialed nuclear physicist states: “The fact, that X-ray doses are so seldom measured, reflects the false assumption that doses do not matter…[but] they do matter enormously. And each bit of additional dose matters, because any X-ray photon may be the one which sets in motion the high-speed, high energy electron which causes a carcinogenic or atherogenic [smooth muscle] mutation. Such mutations rarely disappear. The higher their accumulated number in a population, the higher will be the population’s mortality rates from radiation-induced cancer and ischemic heart disease.”

A report in the British medical journal Lancet noted that after breast mammograms were introduced in 1983, the incidence of ductal carcinoma (12 percent of breast cancer) increased by 328 percent, of which 200 percent was due to the use of mammography itself. A Lawrence Berkeley National Lab study has demonstrated that breast tissue is extremely susceptible to radiation-induced cancer, confirming warnings by numerous experts that mammograms can initiate the very cancers they may later identify. Dr. Gofman believes that medical radiation is a co-factor in 75 percent of breast cancer cases. So why would girls and women want their breast tissues irradiated every time they take a commercial flight?

Cancer is number two cause of death in the U.S. behind heart disease. The more marathon walks and cookie eating contests we sponsor to fund the “war” on cancer, the more cancer we get. “America isn’t winning the war on cancer after all,” the Wall Street Journal recently reported. The National Cancer Institute admits that America’s cancer rates in almost every category are rising steadily. Airline pilots and cabin crews suffer a significant incidence of leukemia, skin and breast cancer due to chromosomal damage from ionizing cosmic radiation encountered during years of flying at high altitudes.

Dr. Gofman’s research reveals a dose-response relationship between medical X-rays and fatal heart disease, the number one killer of Americans. He found that X-radiation is a powerful atherogen, causing mutations in smooth muscle cells of coronary arteries. These radiation damaged cells are unable to process lipoproteins correctly, resulting in atherosclerotic plaques and mini tumors in the arteries. Radiation used to treat breast cancer can badly damage the heart.

As Dr. Gofman and other experts argue for improved diagnostic techniques and equipment to reduce medically necessary X-ray exposure, TSA gears up to impose frivolous, nonmusical exposure, even though conventional airline security measures have proven adequate since 9/11. To date, the National Institutes of Health, the American Cancer Society and the American Heart Association have been silent about TSA’s sinister plan to deliver unlimited doses of carcinogenic, mutagenic, heart damaging radiation to the flying public. No health studies are planned to gauge short and long-term effects of the radiation TSA will deliver to inspect our innards.

Big Brother’s zap madness is a predictable result of America’s post 9-11 security hysteria. But here’s the irony: Dr. Gofman says X- radiation has the effect of “grenades and small bombs” on human cells. If we permit TSA to continually “bomb” our DNA in the name of security, what have we accomplished?

Besides ionizing beams, the feds are also testing other types of surveillance radiation. A flubbed holographic scanner developed by Pacific Northwest National Laboratory allows officials to strip search humans with ultra-high frequency radio waves. Millivision of Amherst, Mass., has engineered a millimeter wave scanner using radio frequencies 1,000 times higher than those of an FM broadcast. These waves pass through clothing, packaging and building materials. Ultra-high radio frequencies include radar, a spectrum of radiation known since WWII to cause cancer and neurological disability in humans. Microwave frequencies are documented by recent studies on cell/cordless phone radiation to be carcinogenic and teratogenic (causing abnormal embryonic development).

An example of unexpected health repercussions caused by high frequency radiation used on humans is fetal ultrasound technology. Ultrasound equipment bombards a fetus for up to one hour with megahertz radiation. This radiation, which cycles millions of time per second, can cause mutation and bleeding in the intestinal cells of rodents. Swedish scientists say routine ultrasound scanning of pregnant women may be causing subtle brain damage in unborn babies. Approximately half of all pregnancies in the U.S. result in prenatal or postnatal death, or an otherwise less than healthy baby. Many wonder if routine exposure of America’s fragile unborn to megahertz radiation might be a factor, among others, of this shocking national statistic. Is fetal ultrasound exposure playing some part in the national epidemic of delayed development in infants, plus learning and behavior difficulties suffered by millions of our school children? Exposing the unborn to ionizing X-radiation at airport checkpoints is an even more dangerous game of roulette.

Fedgov’s planned use of health damaging radiation on the traveling public seems especially tragic and abusive to those of us convinced that the War on Terror is a giant con job. Massive evidence indicates that the terrorist attacks of 9/11 were intentionally staged to justify increased power over and surveillance of Americans. Key NORAD and other military officials had to be in on the ruse. President Bush ambushed himself when he openly lied about what he knew and when he knew it on the day the Twin Towers went down.. He has been caught lying about so many issues that Homeland Security should issue a red alert every time he is about to move his lips. The Bush administration’s ongoing cover-up of 9/11 is so blatant that even Bush’s own investigatory commission has expressed outrage at his efforts to block its requests for vital information and resources.

Meantime, TSA claims concern that Americans may feel humiliated at being viewed naked by X-ray screeners. But whatever airport nuke-nazis see through our clothing is nothing that the undertaker won’t see after excessive, state-mandated radiation puts us “down” for good. Mandatory airport surveillance radiation delivered to an already grossly ill population would afford our financially strapped government an ingenious “final solution” to numerous political and economic problems. No muss, no fuss, this cull in the Cuckoos’ nest. Each useless eater lines up for his deferred-lethal dose. The weak will die soonest, the strong will eventually become the weak–no questions asked and nothing proven. It’s hard for a Prozac nation to imagine such sinister motives behind the terror industry, but the documented truth is, our amoral leadership has been brazenly murdering Americans for decades. Genocide specialists have been especially fond of unleashing various forms of deadly radiation on the unwitting masses, as documented by the federal Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments. Now here we go again!

Consumers could derail TSA’s sinister surveillance projects in a heartbeat. It’s called boycott: We simply refuse to get nuked to naked. If we stop booking flights, the airline industry must grind to a halt. TSA would have little choice but to scrap its plans to endanger the national health with unnecessary radiation.

Americans who are still able to think must launch an effort to save ourselves and warn others. 1. Let’s demand that Congress mandate TSA’s radiation experiments be strictly voluntary. 2. We must demand the right to request that TSA conduct a non-radiation search of our persons. 3. We must demand our right to abstain from security procedures that may harm our children. 4. We must initiate an e-mail campaign to convince TSA and the airlines that forcible assault by radiation makes the cost of an airline ticket impossibly prohibitive.

TSA’s consumer e-mail address is: [email protected]. It’s toll

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Old 31-12-2009, 08:31 PM   #15
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Stop to fly is for many the most simple way to avoid this body scanners. There are usually good alternatives to planes if you are not to travel very far away.
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but als most people will just accept its for the good of fighting the invislbe terrorist threat , take me dad got haert problem and myloid lukiemia but love his holidays how do i tell him he,s bing zapped with xrays every time he flies , would be like trying to explain that man did,nt land on the moon for they would be zapped with radiation form the sun , i try in vain tho
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Do the scanners not work on electro-magnetic radiation, similar to mobile phones, not x-rays?
Although, it's still not good for you and an invasion of privacy either way
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Do the scanners not work on electro-magnetic radiation, similar to mobile phones, not x-rays?
Although, it's still not good for you and an invasion of privacy either way
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ring the them and ask them your bullshit answer will tell you its ok. Is fine it in terms of good levels of human exposure. ETC.
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Stop to fly is for many the most simple way to avoid this body scanners. There are usually good alternatives to planes if you are not to travel very far away.
Well you guys can stop flying, I will not be giving up my freedoms to those bastards. By not flying you are basically giving in to them, by giving up your freedoms.
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Well you guys can stop flying, I will not be giving up my freedoms to those bastards. By not flying you are basically giving in to them, by giving up your freedoms.
I rarely fly with an airplane anyway, as I don't travel much.
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