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Old 14-03-2008, 03:26 PM   #141
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Just got an email from no.10 today, I presume that's the content?
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Old 14-03-2008, 06:28 PM   #142
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Just got an email from no.10 today, I presume that's the content?
Yeah I got that too, so have just deleted it!
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Old 14-03-2008, 07:26 PM   #143
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Old 14-03-2008, 09:35 PM   #144
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Talk about double talk


Thank you for signing the e-petition regarding the banning of micro chipping of humans.

The Government is not aware of any organisation or individual that is planning to micro chip humans, and so although in principle the Government would be against this practice, it seems disproportionate to legislate to ban it.

However, you may be reassured that any attempt to micro-chip someone against their will would certainly be covered by the law on assault, and as such is already illegal.

principle signifies a point (or points) of probability on a subject (e.g., the principle of creativity), which allows for the formation of rule or norm or law by (human) interpretation of the phenomena (events) that can be created. The rules, norms and laws depend on and co-create a particular context to formulate. A principle is the underlying part (or spirit) of the basis for an evolutionary normative or formative development, which is the object of subjective experience and/or interpretation. For example, the ethics of someone may be seen as a set of principles that the individual obeys in the form of rules, as guidance or law. These principles thus form the basis for such ethics.
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Not in fair or equal terms; see proportionality.

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Old 14-03-2008, 09:43 PM   #145
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Nah, 'fraid not. (ur sig)
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Old 17-03-2008, 04:56 PM   #146
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I've had a reply! Well they posted me a link; probably other undersigned will get one too:

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Thank you for signing the e-petition regarding the banning of micro chipping of humans.

The Government is not aware of any organisation or individual that is planning to micro chip humans, and so although in principle the Government would be against this practice, it seems disproportionate to legislate to ban it.

However, you may be reassured that any attempt to micro-chip someone against their will would certainly be covered by the law on assault, and as such is already illegal.
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Old 17-03-2008, 06:21 PM   #147
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ive had the reply too....
no atempts to microchip people my arse dont they watch the news lol.

and assault???? since when do they listen to police brutality espeacialy someone who has been chipped lol.

To e honest i couldnt see them passin this law... just shows they have some plan for chips in the near future
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Old 18-03-2008, 07:28 AM   #148
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UK citizens, please take a minute to sign this important petition
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/No2Microchipping/
I signed this petition many months ago, and after an incredibly long delay I received a response from a governmental department to the effect that they had never heard of microchipped human beings, and, since the problem doesn't exist, there was absolutely no need to enact any legislation concerning it. In other words, they intend to do PRECISELY NOTHING. Further petitions will no doubt yield similar terse, brain-dead responses after similar interminable delays intended to make you forget about the whole issue and go back to sleep...

Predictable, eh? but still sign the petition, and go on signing it. The issue will not 'go away' because some prat in a government department says the problem doesn't exist. Yes it does, and it's a crucially important issue for anyone who loves freedom and anyone who feels that human beings have the right to determine their own lives.

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Old 18-03-2008, 09:11 AM   #149
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I signed this petition many months ago, and after an incredibly long delay I received a response from a governmental department to the effect that they had never heard of microchipped human beings, and, since the problem doesn't exist, there was absolutely no need to enact any legislation concerning it. In other words, they intend to do PRECISELY NOTHING. Further petitions will no doubt yield similar terse, brain-dead responses after similar interminable delays intended to make you forget about the whole issue and go back to sleep...

Predictable, eh? but still sign the petition, and go on signing it. The issue will not 'go away' because some prat in a government department says the problem doesn't exist. Yes it does, and it's a crucially important issue for anyone who loves freedom and anyone who feels that human beings have the right to determine their own lives.

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I'll send them a copy of Aaron Russo's interview!
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Old 18-03-2008, 09:23 AM   #150
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I signed this petition many months ago, and after an incredibly long delay I received a response from a governmental department to the effect that they had never heard of microchipped human beings, and, since the problem doesn't exist, there was absolutely no need to enact any legislation concerning it. In other words, they intend to do PRECISELY NOTHING. Further petitions will no doubt yield similar terse, brain-dead responses after similar interminable delays intended to make you forget about the whole issue and go back to sleep...

Predictable, eh? but still sign the petition, and go on signing it. The issue will not 'go away' because some prat in a government department says the problem doesn't exist. Yes it does, and it's a crucially important issue for anyone who loves freedom and anyone who feels that human beings have the right to determine their own lives.

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Yes, predictable is right!

They know full-well what's going on and as somebody mentioned on another thread, once the government propaganda campaign goes into full-swing (problem/reaction), nobody will be forced into taking a chip, they'll be offering the microchip as a "solution, and people will be lining up for them believing its the best option for keeping themselves and their families safe.

I guess educating others about the 'horror potential' of microchips for the future purpose of mass population control and mind control seems like the best course of action at this stage....providing people are prepared to listen rather than be further brainwashed by govt. propaganda via its lapdog media.
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Old 18-03-2008, 03:40 PM   #151
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maybe you should send them UK DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE DOCUMENT
Titled - DCDC Global Strategic Trends Programme 2007-2036
(DCDC) stands for Development, Concepts and Doctrine Centre

can be downloaded here
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/articles.html


They think most people will have brain chips by 2035!!!!
page 82 on doc ....97 in adobe
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Broadcasts to the Brain
By 2035, an implantable information chip could be developed and wired directly to the
user’s brain. Information and entertainment choices would be accessible through
cognition and might include synthetic sensory perception beamed direct to the user’s
senses. Wider related ICT developments might include the invention of synthetic
telepathy, including mind-to-mind or telepathic dialogue. This type of development would
have obvious military and security, as well as control, legal and ethical, implications.
also

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4396387.stm
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A paralysed man in the US has become the first person to benefit from a brain chip that reads his mind.
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Old 18-03-2008, 03:58 PM   #152
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Go back to sleep citizens, your government has figured out how it all transpires, go back to sleep citizens. Here, go watch American Gladiator, heres 57 channels of it! Watch these pituary retards beat the shit out of each other and relax in the knowledge that you are FREE! You are free to do as we tell you, you are FREE to do as we tell you!
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