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Old 10-06-2016, 07:58 PM   #1
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Thumbs up The Andrew Neil Interviews - Nigel Farage 10-6-16 Brexit

There were an interview on tonight if you missed it, on the, The Andrew Neil Interviews, with Nigel Farage.

Andrew Neil were the one who interview David icke BTW.


I uploaded it here.

BBC Andrew Neil Interviews - Leave or Remain - Nigel Farage 10-06-16

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4f...-10-06-16_news




Ian Duncan smith on next Friday, same show.
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Yep, just caught it. What you'll notice is that they ask questions, but then continue to talk over the answers just as soon as they've established that the question can be legitimately answered!! It's insane!

It just makes me sick, actually, that these commentators like Andrew Neil can be so insulting to any thinking person's intelligence. Straight away, as Farage points out, "Not with the right government"... This scaremongering and neat sidestepping of the actual FACTS just beggars belief.

They're gunning for Farage, because the truth is that were it not for his efforts- we wouldn't be having this referendum in the first place.

That fat bastard is just grasping at straws- he really is. His rebuttals are, quite frankly, pathetic. Utterly insulting to any thinking person's intelligence.

When he talks about the supposed 'fact' that migrants coming into the country are more likely to work than people from our own country- "What's your problem?"- he's sidestepping a majorly significant point. That point being, those migrants are prepared to work for far less than a living wage, and are willing to sacrifice their quality of life to do so. Listen, if we could go to France and be paid 10 times the 'minimum' wage paid here, for working a menial job farming carrots or whatever- I'm pretty sure there would be many who'd snap that up, be prepared to live 15 to a room in the short-term whilst saving all that extra money to ultimately take back home and buy a cheaper house and get a start in life. It's simple economics!! What is so difficult to understand?? The point is that for people actually living here, these menial jobs do not pay enough to support exorbitant rents, energy bills and all of the other boring costs associated with just 'living'.

So what direction do we see this heading in? Should we all be prepared to live in squatter conditions just to keep a roof over our heads? Or is the system fucked? The wages (and benefits) paid here reflect the cost of living- HERE. When there is huge inequality in wages, cost of living and general living standards across the EU, how can a 'unified' system operate from a 'one size fits all' policy? Complete and utter insanity.

A decade ago, Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman admonished the Wall Street Journal for its idée fixe on open-border immigration policy. "It's just obvious you can't have free immigration and a welfare state," he warned.

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Old 10-06-2016, 09:55 PM   #3
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Andrew Neil is quite good a talking over people aurum but most of them journalists, do do it a lot anyway.

Andrew Neil did try and trip farage up on his comments, when on the ITV debate. Didn't work though.
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:24 AM   #4
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Yep, just caught it. What you'll notice is that they ask questions, but then continue to talk over the answers just as soon as they've established that the question can be legitimately answered!! It's insane!

It just makes me sick, actually, that these commentators like Andrew Neil can be so insulting to any thinking person's intelligence. Straight away, as Farage points out, "Not with the right government"... This scaremongering and neat sidestepping of the actual FACTS just beggars belief.

They're gunning for Farage, because the truth is that were it not for his efforts- we wouldn't be having this referendum in the first place.

That fat bastard is just grasping at straws- he really is. His rebuttals are, quite frankly, pathetic. Utterly insulting to any thinking person's intelligence.

When he talks about the supposed 'fact' that migrants coming into the country are more likely to work than people from our own country- "What's your problem?"- he's sidestepping a majorly significant point. That point being, those migrants are prepared to work for far less than a living wage, and are willing to sacrifice their quality of life to do so. Listen, if we could go to France and be paid 10 times the 'minimum' wage paid here, for working a menial job farming carrots or whatever- I'm pretty sure there would be many who'd snap that up, be prepared to live 15 to a room in the short-term whilst saving all that extra money to ultimately take back home and buy a cheaper house and get a start in life. It's simple economics!! What is so difficult to understand?? The point is that for people actually living here, these menial jobs do not pay enough to support exorbitant rents, energy bills and all of the other boring costs associated with just 'living'.

So what direction do we see this heading in? Should we all be prepared to live in squatter conditions just to keep a roof over our heads? Or is the system fucked? The wages (and benefits) paid here reflect the cost of living- HERE. When there is huge inequality in wages, cost of living and general living standards across the EU, how can a 'unified' system operate from a 'one size fits all' policy? Complete and utter insanity.

A decade ago, Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman admonished the Wall Street Journal for its idée fixe on open-border immigration policy. "It's just obvious you can't have free immigration and a welfare state," he warned.
The trouble with Friedman was that his answer was to do away with the Welfare State! People like his acolyte Patrick Minford, pin-up economist of the Brexit bridage, has been saying the same since the '80's. Don't forget these guys, Farage, Carswell, Gove, BoJo et al are extreme 'laissez faire' free-marketeers, they really do see health and safety legislation, etc, as 'red tape'.

Friedman's policies where implemented first in.....Chile under Pinochet! You know, the guy that killed a lot of his own people then had tea with Mrs T.

All that having been said, I see the argument for an 'out' vote as overwhelming. If we subsequently elect a government of right-wing crazies, then more fool us.

In defence of Andrew Neil, he gives everyone the same treatment. I think he is exceptionally well-informed, generally a master of his subject, and will give anyone sat in front of him a true test of their mettle.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:50 AM   #6
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Just wanted to add this excellent response which I read elsewhere:

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OK,.. here's a short list of financial and industrial FUBARs from the EU...
Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds.
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.
British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.
Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.
Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs.
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase.
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.
39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU.
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK.
The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.

Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK.
Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.
I haven't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there.
I haven't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany.
Find something that's gone the other way, I've looked and I just can't. If you think the EU is a good idea.
1/ You haven't read the party manifesto of The European Peoples' Party.
2/ You haven't had to deal with EU petty bureaucracy tearing your business down.
3/ You don't care.
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So we BORROW money (with interest) from the bankers to pay into the EU... The EU then uses this money to asset strip the country...

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Why have the EU commissioners never had the interrogation treatment from people like Andrew Neil, they are the people that will be in charge if we vote to remain, yet they get no scrutiny and hardly anyone knows who they are.
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The mere fact we would save 350 m a week ought to make this referendum. 90%'leave. We know the real figure is 75% or there abouts. They are doing the same tactic as in the Scottish independence, pretending it is close for the last minute change of mind. The status quo is a powerful weapon, but yes, if only more knew about the 350m a week ! That is a Hospital a week FFS.

I wonder also whether the Welsh, NI, and Scots are been fooled by Nazi Sturgeon amazingly stating that Scotland would go for independence if they stayed IN thus making them pro remain, hmm really Nicola ? Really ?

I laughed.
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Interesting to see that according to the media whores Scotland are the most pro remain group.

The psy op of opposing the English is the spin, it looks like it might be working the Scots sub conciousness.
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In that first photo .. they're pissed. Well I hope they are seriously pissed off on 23 June.
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Old 11-06-2016, 12:51 PM   #11
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The mere fact we would save 350 m a week ought to make this referendum. 90%'leave. We know the real figure is 75% or there abouts. They are doing the same tactic as in the Scottish independence, pretending it is close for the last minute change of mind. The status quo is a powerful weapon, but yes, if only more knew about the 350m a week ! That is a Hospital a week FFS.

I wonder also whether the Welsh, NI, and Scots are been fooled by Nazi Sturgeon amazingly stating that Scotland would go for independence if they stayed IN thus making them pro remain, hmm really Nicola ? Really ?

I laughed.
The £350 m figure has been a point of some contention, what with the rebate and other monies back- we allegedly send Brussels £12.9 billion or just under £250 million a week, some of which we get back (and we're TOLD how we're allowed to spend it!), so net cost of membership alone (for which we get NOTHING back) is apparently a snap at only £6.3 billion a year- ah well that's alright then!!

Spreading just this cost alone over the year gives a weekly spend of £121 m or thereabouts- so yeah, still plenty to play with.


Source: http://infacts.org/uk-doesnt-send-eu...-or-55m-a-day/

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The mere fact we would save 350 m a week ought to make this referendum. 90%'leave. We know the real figure is 75% or there abouts. They are doing the same tactic as in the Scottish independence, pretending it is close for the last minute change of mind. The status quo is a powerful weapon, but yes, if only more knew about the 350m a week ! That is a Hospital a week FFS.

I wonder also whether the Welsh, NI, and Scots are been fooled by Nazi Sturgeon amazingly stating that Scotland would go for independence if they stayed IN thus making them pro remain, hmm really Nicola ? Really ?

I laughed.
Just found the following short video which whilst not wholly accurate, pretty much sums up the lunacy of the current system:


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