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Old 20-01-2013, 04:05 PM   #42881
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Not been on for a few days, and am pages behind.

Has anyone saved the 100+ photos of the Elm guest house records (Mary Moss docs I guess), and has anyone with good computer skill managed to sharpen up and enlarge the pics of names?

John Rowe (I think it reads) with MI5 alongside his name, seems to have been really involved, including other docs linking him to Peter Mandelson.

Some of the photos are really creepy reading, reference to "Dial a child" in one pic, guaranteed delivery within 2 hours, and if they are "out of stock" will kidnap one off the street!

Apologies if I am a few days behind the rest of you.
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:09 PM   #42882
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We need to be careful about naming him as the suspect. I have no doubt Cliff Richard is a nonce, but from the description, 'a world famous songwriter
it doesn't sound like him. There are other celebrities that spring to mind TBH.
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Didn't it just say 'best selling musician'? I've seen people saying 'mega famous songwriter', but I don't know where the source for it is.
In the MSM the description has varied between singer / popstar / musician / songwriter. All variations of the same thing, and there's probably nothing to read into the choice of description used by any given journalist.

There are two of these, er, vocalists, named on the list and one of them probably has more to lose than the other, as this investigation unfolds.
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:14 PM   #42883
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Didn't it just say 'best selling musician'? I've seen people saying 'mega famous songwriter', but I don't know where the source for it is.
That could mean the other one then ,we know he is ,but not children? imagine if it was. No news there then just telling us what we already know and he cant get done for that can he.
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:16 PM   #42884
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Not been on for a few days, and am pages behind.

Has anyone saved the 100+ photos of the Elm guest house records (Mary Moss docs I guess), and has anyone with good computer skill managed to sharpen up and enlarge the pics of names?

John Rowe (I think it reads) with MI5 alongside his name, seems to have been really involved, including other docs linking him to Peter Mandelson.

Some of the photos are really creepy reading, reference to "Dial a child" in one pic, guaranteed delivery within 2 hours, and if they are "out of stock" will kidnap one off the street!

Apologies if I am a few days behind the rest of you.
Hi, if you search on my name you should find some of what you are looking for!

I'm crap with links but it's all here, somewhere.

Peter Mandelson? Any idea which doc? Just a line of text will do if you can't link, I'll find it!
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:17 PM   #42885
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Re Kitty a poster way back wrote, someone they knew checked credit card transactions and Kittys was being used for the hiring of rent boys.
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:18 PM   #42886
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Where are these fucking arrests? FUCKING HURRY UP. Why are these filth still out walking about? Why aren't people out there smashing up the banks? Why is Tony Blair still alive? Why aren't the royal family behind bars? Come on, for fuck's sake. This is the most gormless, spineless, ball-less country on Earth, apart from America. People of Britain, turn off your sodding televisions, put down your bastard mobile phones, and show some fucking backbone!

Where's the civil disobediance? Where's the graffitti and murals saying 'Fuck the Establishment'? Where's the bankers and corrupt politicians getting roughed up and abused? How much fucking shite will the people swallow before they've finally had enough?
you're quite right i think people need to be a bit more vocal about it

i dont often go into london nowadays but last time i was there the expenses scandal was in full swing, we were walking past the houses of parliament where a few civil servants/MPs were outside smoking and i took the chance to remark loudly so all the passers by and and tourists could hear
"look at them all, bunch of fucking thieves"

the look on some of their faces was absolutely priceless a mixture of shame and shock
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:26 PM   #42887
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@ transcriber - sure I saw his name on one of the documents.

Can't find again, maybe I was mistaken, but if I do chance across it again will post.
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:30 PM   #42888
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Sorry for throwing in a random post, but was Savile a paid up member of P.I.E???
Only it seems to think so in this forum post... https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums...1035#post61035
Not random has many articles re: PIE, Geofrrey Dickens and Spinks that have been posted in last day or so.
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:31 PM   #42889
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Anders said he had loads of info on him


Dots.... two young singers one ends up in pieces in a suitcase
Kitty pictured with Boothby and chums with Krays hence letters.
Kitty a shit talent ... started career as a Elvis tribute act.
Rumours re sexuality becomes born again christian, hence reason for being " celibate "
Talentless ... following of elderly women... very close to mother....
Who said the abused becomes the abuser.... not in all cases but maybe some.
Blackmail involved ?? most likely
Bernard Oliver? I didn't know he was a singer; I thought he was a boy with "learning difficulties" from Muswell Hill who ended up in a couple of suitcases in Suffolk.
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:32 PM   #42890
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I am not a fan of cliff. The reason for providing him with a watered down excuse for visiting Elm House may well be due to MI5 intervention.

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/06/1...igence-chiefs/

Cliff ‘wired for sound’ during Cold War claim intelligence chiefs

Recently declassified MI5 papers sensationally reveal that Peter Pan of pop, Sir Cliff Richard, was recruited by British intelligence services in the late 1950s. He remained a frontline agent throughout the cold war.

Squeaky clean Sir Cliff went by the code name Harry Web-of-Deceit amongst Whitehall officials. Cliff’s paymasters gave the bachelor boy (although apparently ‘a bit of a James Bond on the side’ according to one anonymous source) a brief to release his soft pop balladry as a smokescreen for more clandestine activities. Having successfully established himself as a sleeper in the pop world he was ‘activated’ in 1968, during his performance of Eurovision entry, Congratulations, at London’s Albert Hall in 1968.

‘Sir Cliff was Mr Wiretap himself’ explained Tony Newbold, a retired intelligence officer ‘It was bloody brilliant: nobody suspected a thing. He was the best bug-er we had – a departmental accolade that spread, I’m afraid – for which I would like to humbly apologise.’
Newsbiscuit is a satirical website, along the lines of The Onion. So, no, Sir Cliff wasn't an MI5 agent. I've also seen it quoted on another site that some on here use as a source of info. Be careful folks, stuff like that can ruin months of genuine research and evidence gathering.

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Old 20-01-2013, 04:33 PM   #42891
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Had a look at your earlier posts.
May I suggest:

Supposedly journalist with Washington Post
believed to be (working) for (H) T.


1st paragraph of faint writing under the first list.

Achieved (or not) with a squint, a beer and a prayer.

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Old 20-01-2013, 04:33 PM   #42892
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i have left the thread linked to above as it stands:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...post1061267134

We're here to help, not undermine the thread or those posting
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Yes Toucan Travel - it seems highly implausible they didnt know who/where this man was - was his mafia/ establishment connections protecting/harbouring him? Seems very likely to me.
http://www.dereklaud.org.uk/blog/7/a...f-kruger-glory
On the subject of travel links, I mentioned a link with - oh Golly my wiki's been edited- this is what is left of his blog.
The Royal Malewane, on the western fringe of South Africa’s magnificent Kruger National Park, has quietly become a haunt for some of the world’s biggest celebrities.

Every year Sir Elton John takes over the entire lodge for himself and a select band of friends. And Leonardo DiCaprio, one of the biggest box office stars in Hollywood, stays there too.
http://www.dereklaud.org.uk/?pg=2

The company for whom Laud was Int'l Dir of communications was
part of:
Tourism Corporation Africa (www.tourismcorp.co.za, email [email protected] com. com) has a range of exclusive game lodges and boutique hotels. Rates at the Royal Malewane (www.royalmalewane.com) start at £900 per night per couple.

Tourism Corporation Africa (TCA) is an established company promoting a range of exclusive privately owned luxury boutique hotels and game lodges. It represents a collection of five-star establishments in South Africa, Mozambique, Continental Europe and Asia.

Interestingly a search for same brings up:
The Roving Ambassador.

Laudy laudy's name and picture no longer appear under the team credentials.
A new appointment is to be made in 2013.

http://therovingambassador.com/the-team/

The setup may be absolutely squeaky clean - now, but with the connections it has, my nose tells me there's a smell that lingers.

Derek Laud

derekDerek Laud is the Director: Communications and Media Relations and has had a prolific career in International Relations, Policy Development, Communications and Media. Derek is responsible for prospecting, new business development and international communications. Derek’s public profile, research and lobbying experience has resulted in the innovative and effective utilisation of new communication media.


http://web.archive.org/web/201008152...o.za/the-team/

Ye hah!!

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Old 20-01-2013, 04:35 PM   #42893
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Sorry for throwing in a random post, but was Savile a paid up member of P.I.E???
Only it seems to think so in this forum post... https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums...1035#post61035
Jesus ...the baby part made me feel sick
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:47 PM   #42894
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Considering allegations made in the Michael Shrimpton interview


why does this not come as a surprise...



Jersey's Chief Minister has put off a debate on historic child abuse.

The States were due to discuss the remit for a Committee of Inquiry next week.

However with abuse victims raising more concerns, Senator Gorst has delayed the debate to consult his Council of Ministers first.


When we find out when the debate will be held, we will let you know.

from: http://www.channelonline.tv/channelo....asp?ID=503194



However, Jimmy's presence is keeping the heat on;

http://www.channelonline.tv/channelo....asp?ID=503269




I'd like to remind everyone to sign this petition in the hope of progressing the course to justice:


http://www.change.org/en-GB/petition...re_before_sign

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Old 20-01-2013, 04:52 PM   #42895
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Look at the 'ff's. The descenders are strong and clear.

Look at the next word, 'selected', the shape of the 's'. No match.

Now top line, look at 'for'. The 'f' formation is distinct and the same as in 'Ruffell'.

Pedantic I know, but names are always trickier than other words, and in this case the name could be important, it's quite unusual. Could also be an alias, of course!

It could also be a place where boys were recruited...

I have not found a reference to a 'fixer' anywhere, yet. I think it stemmed from the name 'Tricker' which is also in this document.

If I find a fixer reference, y'all will be the first to know!!
I trust you fully with your interpretation.
My eyes aren't what they used to be especially after a few liveners.
It looks like Russell to me,but probably looking at the more obvious.

By the way mate,I've got some info on the 'family tree'.
It looks certain to me.
Give me five minutes.
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:56 PM   #42896
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you're quite right i think people need to be a bit more vocal about it

i dont often go into london nowadays but last time i was there the expenses scandal was in full swing, we were walking past the houses of parliament where a few civil servants/MPs were outside smoking and i took the chance to remark loudly so all the passers by and and tourists could hear
"look at them all, bunch of fucking thieves"

the look on some of their faces was absolutely priceless a mixture of shame and shock
Brilliant..... calling them out ,robbing bastards.No politicians are poor even when they leave politics their fortunes increase, paid for by taxpayers... one of reasons i don't vote.
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Old 20-01-2013, 04:57 PM   #42897
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The statement of itself makes no sense. So the press is saying that the singer/song writer was only there for a bit of rough trade with other men. They're writing this because the cops are telling them so. But not one single suspect has been interviewed let alone arrested. Many of the victims have not come forward to name names. The entire purpose of the Elm Guest House was as a place for men to gain access to young boys from care homes. I think whoever this is, and I don't think it's Cliff, is a protected species and they're looking to separate him off from the investigation. I don't think the cops are looking to protect an important UK export industry, more like the guy is well connected and knows where the bodies are buried.
You're spot on. Not only doesn't it make sense, it's unbelievable. If you are running a paedophile ring for top politicians, the Diplomatic Protection Group, along with MI5 must have known about it. Does anyone think they would allow a male brothel to run from the same premises? It would have been a security nightmare.
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Old 20-01-2013, 05:04 PM   #42898
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Re: Mary Moss docs.

The 'family tree ' one.
The porn link.

Hamilton - Grant IS this bloke.
Conveniently died in 1991 in mysterious circumstances.
Possibly the victim of a hit.
Links to Cyprus - Boys,Children,Scallywag, Asil Nadir possibly ?

http://giallo-fever.blogspot.co.uk/2...1_archive.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Grant_(producer)

http://www.eofftv.com/notes/n/nightmare_1981_notes.htm

Business partners/scumbags - Malcolm Fancey,Roger Morley.

Inching closer to Patrick Puddles.
Other names cropping up.
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JIMMY SAVILE, THE KRAY TWINS, CLIFF RICHARD...


Tony Blair's friend Cliff Richard (left) with Sir Jimmy Savile, who allegedly supplied boys to the elite for sex.



Cliff Richard, whose home is near to where Madeleine McCann disappeared, with Winston Churchill's close friend Lord Boothby, who reportedly was involved with child sex rings for the elite..



Lord Boothby with top gangster Ronnie Kray, centre, who reportedly supplied boys to the elite.

Cliff Richard was friends with the Kray Twins.

Lost Youth Volume 2: London - Page 429 - Google Books Result


Bernard Oliver - victim in the Tattingstone suitcase murder

Anonymous commented on the 1967 Tattingstone suitcase murder.

"The Scotland Yard Savile inquiry should extend to Suffolk...

"The Krays had property at Bildeston where they were involved with local youth clubs and giving children donkey rides etc.

"Just across the Essex border lived Ronnie's gay lover Tom Driberg MP."


Savile

"Apparently Kray had access to many London care homes and would have boys delivered to parties at DJ Alan ” fluff” Freeman’s large flat over a music shop in East London. 

"There they would meet with show biz types and DJs including Jimmy Saville, Joe Meeks and on occasion Beatles manager Brian Epstein."

Death of a Showman: Jimmy Saville 1926-2011


Savile

According to this source - Archives - the Krays ran a paedophile ring.

"What was involved was the systematic abuse of ten-to-twelve-year-old boys, one of whom subsequently became fairly well known as a singer.

"Another, rather less fortunate,wound up in six pieces in two suitcases...

"The police uncovered a large-scale juvenile pimping operation centred on a house in a Suffolk village (Tattington) owned by Ronnie Kray.

(The Kray twins had huge property interests in East Anglia).

"Some of the boys were obtained via a close friend of (Benjamin) Britten's in London, who named him as one of the beneficiaries of the 'service': other'customers' included Lord Boothby (who frequently shared boys with Ronnie Kray himself) and the record producer Joe Meek. 

"At least two other people died in the aftermath of Bernard's murder as the twins sealed up the leaks."



"Joe Meek: addicted to amphetamines and obsessed with séances and the occult.

"He had been questioned by police about the 'Suitcase Murder'...

"The dismembered remains of 17-year-old Bernie Oliver were found in two suitcases in a field in Tattingstone in Suffolk...

"Bernie had lived close to Joe's Holloway Road studio...

"And Joe ... had been arrested for cottaging in 1963...

"Joe committed suicide less than a month after the discovery of the body..."

Jake Arnott: Joe Meek and Me - Film - Arts - Evening Standard


Ronnie Kray

The Kray twins ran a bodyguard and 'protection' business for Hollywood stars, such as Frank Sinatra, and for Arab princes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1yDfvNeaq

"At a big London railway station in the spring of 1970, a plastic carrier bag was found in the regular search for bombs before the station closed for the night.

"The contents were an odd assortment of letters and photos, which seemed to have been taken at a kinky party attended by some well-known figures in entertainment.

"One in particular showed a pop singer who masquerades under a Christian persona; dressed in women’s underwear he was pictured with young boys.

"The bag was duly taken to the station office and, as a senior rail worker wrote out a report for the lost property office, two MI5 men and a special branch officer arrived and demanded the photos."

T Stokes


Reggie Kray

One of the letters in the bag allegedly referred to Lew Grade, Leslie Grade and Bernard Delfont, three Jews who 'had a monopoly' over the UK's entertainment industry.

Reportedly, the Kray Twins, who were Jewish gangsters with links to the American Mafia, laundered money for the three brothers.

The Krays themselves "had high-level protection from inside the police."

T Stokes


Eddie Pucci (Frank Sinatras Bodyguard), Ronnie Kray, George Raft, Reggie Kray, Rocky Marciano
and Charlie Kray (Older Brother of the Kray Twins) Website for this image

In 1968 the Kray Twins were in the USA meeting Mafia friends. Crime Library.

The Kray Twins, Ronnie and Reggie, supplied young boys to the elite for sex.

Their name has been linked to the island of Jersey, where young boys were reportedly tortured and murdered.

KRAY TWINS, JERSEY, PEDOPHILE RINGS.

On notepaper carrying his address in Eaton Square, Belgravia, Lord Boothby wrote to Kray on June 6, 1963: "Thank you for your postcard. I very nearly went to Jersey myself, as I have never been there, and hear from so many people that it is quite delightful."

Telegraph



In 1921, in London, the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was set up to study the 'breaking point' of humans. (Project Monarch: Nazi Mind Control by Ron Patton) In 1932, Kurt Lewin, a German-Jewish psychologist, became the director of the Tavistock Institute. He studied the use of terror to achieve mind control. (Cached )

Were the Kray Twins brainwashed, and used, by the security services?

London's Tavistock Institute has been connected to brainwashing.

In 1937, Tavistock "expanded in size and ambition."

The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations - Educate-Yourself Org

In 1937, the three year old Kray Twins were in hospital, separated from their mother.

In 1952, the Kray Twins were doing National service in the army. They spent much of their time locked up.

The man who seemed to exercise some kind of control over the Kray Twins was 'an aristocratic adjutant, a languid ex-public schoolboy". ('Villains' edited by Esme Hawes, 1994)

Brainwashing can give the victim more than one personality.

The Kray Twins were described by their local school teacher and by their local vicar as being polite, helpful, punctilious and respectful to their elders. ('Villains' edited by Esme Hawes, 1994)

The Kray Twins could have sudden changes of mood and become murderous.

Ronnie Kray claimed that while he was locked up, there were people who wanted to torture him. ('Villains' edited by Esme Hawes, 1994)


John Le Carre, who worked for the security services.

John Le Carre's father had links to The Kray Twins, who were Jewish gangsters. 

In 1999, the (London) Daily Mail pointed out that the gangster Kray twins, Ronnie and Reggie, were "of Jewish... stock."

John le Carré was a British spy.

(John le Carré interview - Telegraph)

Le Carre says: "When my sister, Charlotte, was researching her role in the film about the Krays she visited their mother.

"Mrs Kray showed her the family album and there was a photograph of our father with his arms around the Kray twins. 

The Krays were murderous homosexual gangsters, allegedly linked to boy prostitution and top people.

Le Carre joined the secret service at the age of 17.


(The Krays Twins: Nonces, Ponces & Mugs « Stefi's blog)


Yorkshire Ripper Peter Sutcliffe with Sir James Savile, friend of Israel and members of the elite.

Sir Jimmy Savile is linked to the 'Yorkshire Ripper', Peter Sutcliffe, who, in 1981, was was convicted of murdering 13 women.

"Mr Sutcliffe told police he left the murder scene after he heard voices, but couldn't tell where they came from. 

"He also heard a car being driven away from the entrance to a house. 

"Later he found out that the house was where disc jockeyJimmy Savile lived"

THE TRIAL: WEEK ONE

There has been speculation that the Savile-Sutcliffe story is somehow linked to brainwashing, of the sort used by the military to produce killers.
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Anonymous11:08 PM
YES, EVEN A BLIND CAN SEE THAT THE KRAY TWINS WERE BRAINWASHED. SOMEHOW ITS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE... ON THE OTHER HAND, CLIFF RICHARDS WAS ALSO ABUSED TOO, IT WAS INEVITABLE....

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...iographer.html

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Zoompad12:22 AM
Could this be the reason Cliff Richards turned to the Lord? I wonder if he became a Christian after that poor boy was murdered, and the horror of it made him ask the Lord for help?

If it was, then he should honour the Lord and speak up about what he knows, to save the children who are right now being preyed upon by those bastards - to remain silent would be an act of apostasy.

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Carol A. Valentine3:24 AM
Aang, that is good work.

I will be in touch next week with some interesting information.

Carol.

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Anonymous3:58 AM
How's about that then...

I stumbled across two old forums this past week, one contained a cryptic reference to a UK singer who has successfully concealed his paedophile tendencies from the mainstream media. However like Jimmy Savile he won't be able to keep up the charade when he's dead, if I was him I'd jump off a CLIFF now...

The second forum mentioned the murder of Jill Dando and a potentially shocking motive. The post claimed that she was investigating paedophile rings, one of the major people involved was a good friend of hers and she confronted him about it. The rest is history, the person in question is the person mentioned in the other forum above.
I have no doubt in my mind that certain individuals would arrange an assassination if it meant their secrets remained hidden.

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felix8:28 AM
Great work, Aang. btw, Cliff Richard (singular)

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Anonymous8:55 AM
it keeps being asked why it never came out about Savile Robin Gibb etc etc and the point missed is that Rupert Murdock and Robert Maxwell along with the Grade brothers both ruled the news media and show biz, these jews protected their own, also in jewish law its not a crime to abuse christion children,as said by Jonathan King Roman polanski and savile who saw nothing wrong in it and always exclaimed thir innocense.

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Zoompad9:48 AM
If that was true about Jill Dando that would not surprise me at all, because the obsessed fan motive never made any sense.

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Anon12:41 PM
Many thanks all, and especially Felix.

We have moved our tipist to the tea making department.

- Aangirfan

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[email protected]1:07 PM
Hello Aang, you certainly noticed the smoke a long time before the mainstream again.
Craig Murray mentions he was tipped off about this and other stories but he hasn't the time in investigate all.
I was in Hanoi recently and stopped at a 2nd hand bookstore. I bought, 'In the psychiatrists chair' by Anthony Clare.
Mr.Savile is one of the 'patients'. Dr. Clare remembers him as being one of the most 'memorable' patients.
Would you like me to type it up? Where do I send it?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-abuses.html

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Anon3:14 PM
Dear [email protected]

Very many thanks.

You could send brief quotes as comments on this blog.

- Aangirfan

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Anonymous6:01 PM
Hello Ang, latest i heard ona phone inis that several boys from Barnados and another home i forget are suing the BBC for protecting Jimmy savile after he abused them,
they said esther rancid is toiletting herself
regards- Annette.

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MaryC7:09 PM
I wonder how this will affect next month's annual BBC jamboree, "Children In Need".

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@Anon
chums??
http://www.cpfc.org/forums/archive/i.../t-173257.html

Did Jill discover something that caused powerful elites to order her killing?
http://www.missingpersons-ireland.fr...winter2008.htm

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Martin9:59 AM
Prof. Anthony Clare’s introduction to his interview with Sir James Savile.

‘The interview with Jimmy Savile was not one of the easiest. Throughout he appeared exceedingly wary, edgy, like a prizefighter on his toes, anticipating a flurry of hooks to the head, feinting, jabbing a little, constantly on the watch for a blow below the belt.
There just does not seem to be anybody who can say or does say that he or she knows this man intimately.
Throughout the interview, Jimmy Savile insists that he is a man without feelings. Perhaps he is. It is only in the cracks and crevices of the conversation that doubts lurk.
The one moment of poignancy concerns his mother’s death. He spent 5 days with her, between her death and her funeral. Why? ‘Once upon a time I had to share her with a lot of people….but when she was dead she was all mine.’
Some ….commentators speculated darkly …morbid preoccupation with death…it being widely reported that he was rather drawn to the mortuary at St James’s Hospital in Leeds.
Faced with what appears to be a non-existent love life, some have speculated darkly on skeletons in he closet. Lynn Barber, in a newspaper interview published just before mine, went so far as to confront him with the rumour that he likes little girls…With me, he declares quite coldly that he actually doesn’t like children very much at all.
There is something chilling about this twentieth century ‘saint’ which still intrigues me to this day.’

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Very many thanks for all the info.

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You might want to look into why Tony Blair put a portion of the Operation Ore investigation under the Official Secrets Act for 100 years in March 2003 after a cabinet secretary (civil servant) was arrested on child pornography offences in April the previous year, and how this investigation was leading into his cabinet and possibly to ministers.
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You're spot on. Not only doesn't it make sense, it's unbelievable. If you are running a paedophile ring for top politicians, the Diplomatic Protection Group, along with MI5 must have known about it. Does anyone think they would allow a male brothel to run from the same premises? It would have been a security nightmare.
Don't forget there's an MI5 person on the list of guests! Not to mention all the rozzers...
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