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Old 26-11-2011, 05:36 PM   #1
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Default Predestined to fall from 6To 66 To 666 and more

Sorry about the spelling.dont sweat the small stuff as i say.
listen to this song while reading.
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ANGELS FALL.
We where were ment to fall And there were two falls among the angels one before genesis azazel/satan group fought God The first split from God and the second in genesis 6 the watchers Samyaza faught mankind and had off spring with woman .


As above so below!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MANS PREDESTINE FALL...
First fall
Adam rib which means side taken from him which came eve
The first split from one.
The second fall
When eve and then adam ate from the tree of knowledge.

Love and Marrige is gods plan to become one again.

And then the messiah with God


IN the garden was the tree of knowledge of good and evil.The second fall into this dimensional wave frequency which where in now.
Tree of the knowledge of good and evil.Also known as yin and yang.male and female .Which is on most secret society logos .Knowledge of this dimension and state were in.

Six....
6th letter in hebrew is vav/v Also the femine symbol in the occult

6 The number of the fallen...

Man created on the v= 6th day

Fallen angels number is vv in (hebrew/kabbalah) 66

Choice..The final fall choose wisely
The mark of the beast 666

man created on the 6th day.

genesis 6 talks about the watcher and giants

Revelation 16:13
The 6th plague and there final work at the endtime

Magicians world...
Babylon
Sigil Magick monster drink symbol is 666 hebrew symbol for 6
Treyarch who makes call of duty black ops symbol is 666
walt disney signature is 666, the cromebook ad symbol, has 666, in it, ect ect.
There is so so much sigil magic taking place everywhere
bible has 66 books the number of fallen angels.
What books have been taken out?
Why dont they talk about energitic energy?
Why dont we have free energy by now?
What happened to tesla and staney meyer
Why are there corinth pillars in pagan temples and masonic structure buildiings around the world and in the churches today ?
IS that realy all what jesus taught mankind.What has been hidden by babylon/rome/zionist/Magicians of this world?These beings running this pyramid
The 10 commandments....read them all!!!!!
Why do most churches do not keep them all?
The cross is pagan.there were no cross on christian churches before 1300s
They had no symbols on them 2nd Also Thou shalt have no graven image before me.3rd.Why would you glorify the symbol who killed the saviour.


The sabbath is saturday.not sunday.
jesus died 3 days and 3 nights as it says in jonah Matthew 12:40
Not on friday.

READ ezekiel 8 welcome to now days same crap as then as now but worse.
Ezekiel 8

1And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord GOD fell there upon me.

2Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.

3And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.

4And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.

5Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry.

6He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.

7And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.

8Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.

9And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.

10So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.

11And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up.

12Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, the LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth.

13He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.

14Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD's house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

15Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

16And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

17Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.

18Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

The churches are all the daughter of babylon filled with evil spirits,But the other countries religons are even worse.
Look at the world the christian nations have higher standards of life and prosperty.
All this new age stuff come from india and look at that country.There so many gods and people live like poverty in that country.
People that live in the west need world satelite so you can see the world and not get manipulated from are media or theres and think for yourself.
THERES NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN

Watch this movie The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus
Heathe ledger was murder because of it.IT was his last movie and didnt get to finish it.because of a supposely drug over dose. and tells alot of stuff in it

Side notes:
South African Archbishop of Cape Town Desmond Tutu who celebrated his 80th birthdate interviewed and asked the dalai lama why china hates him.
HE said they dont hate me ,they fear my demon in me for it is stronger then theres.

the Congressional Gold Medal
Past winners of the Congressional Gold Medal, described as the "highest expression of national appreciation for distinguished achievements and contributions," include Myanmar pro-democracy icon Aung San Suu Kyi, the Dalai Lama, Walt Disney and Pope John Paul II.

The award is rivaled in the United States only by the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-...e-flights.html


Matthew 10:16
BE wise has serpents but gentle as doves
raise the consciousness
texxe marrs
jeff rense
steve quayle
david icke
alex jones
freeman
cost to coast am
FREE YOUR MIND AND THE REST WILL FOLLOW.

Ed Kowalczyk - Grace Official

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Day of Atonement
2 goat scarfices.
1 was for yashua/jesus Who was sacraficed and The other
was azazel the scapegoat who was released in the the wilderness and thrown down .

The upside down pentagram is azazel because he was cast down upside down and bound also the red string in the kabbalah and is filled through hollywood is azazel .hollywood stars wear it.
Also hollywood is what the magicians staff was made out of.
And all magic uses the pentagram.

Leviticus 16 - The Day of Atonement



A. Preparation for sacrifice on the Day of Atonement.



1. (1-2) How Aaron should not come into the Holy Place.



Now the Lord spoke to Moses after the death of the two sons of Aaron, when they offered profane fire before the Lord, and died; and the Lord said to Moses: "Tell Aaron your brother not to come at just any time into the Holy Place inside the veil, before the mercy seat which is on the ark, lest he die; for I will appear in the cloud above the mercy seat."



a. The Lord spoke to Moses after the death of the two sons of Aaron: Nadab and Abihu were struck down by the Lord because they came into the Holy Place and offered profane fire before the Lord (Leviticus 10).



b. Tell Aaron your brother not to come at just any time into the Holy Place inside the veil: Therefore, Aaron could not come into the Holy Place any time he pleased, but only at God’s invitation and at the appointed time and place.



i. The same is true today: We can only come into God’s Holy Place at His invitation. Blessedly, the access has been opened wide because of Jesus’ work on the cross for us. Romans 5:1-2 specifically says that because of Jesus’ work on our behalf, we have standing access to God.



2. (3-5) What Aaron needs to bring with him when he goes into the Holy Place.



"Thus Aaron shall come into the Holy Place: with the blood of a young bull as a sin offering, and of a ram as a burnt offering. He shall put the holy linen tunic and the linen trousers on his body; he shall be girded with a linen sash, and with the linen turban he shall be attired. These are holy garments. Therefore he shall wash his body in water, and put them on. And he shall take from the congregation of the children of Israel two kids of the goats as a sin offering, and one ram as a burnt offering."



a. With the blood of a young bull as a sin offering: Aaron must come with sacrificial blood to cleanse his own sin and the sin of the nation.



b. He shall put the holy linen tunic and the linen trousers on his body: Aaron must come clothed with garments of humility. Over his ornate garments for glory and for beauty (Exodus 28:2), he wore a holy linen tunic and the linen trousers. He was clothed in simple, humble white.



c. He shall wash his body in water: Aaron must come washed. Traditionally, this washing was done by immersion.



d. He shall take from the congregation of the children of Israel two kids of the goats: Aaron must come with two goats and one ram to complete the offering of atonement.



i. This was extensive preparation for an important day. To the ancient Jews the Day of Atonement was called “the great day” or sometimes even just “the day.” It was and remains the only day of commanded fasting on the Jewish calendar. Modern Jews still regard Yom Kippur an important day of fasting, soul searching, and righting wrongs - yet they offer no sacrifice for sin.



B. What the High Priest does on the Day of Atonement.



1. (6-10) Casting lots to choose between the two goats.



"Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering, which is for himself, and make atonement for himself and for his house. He shall take the two goats and present them before the Lord at the door of the tabernacle of meeting. Then Aaron shall cast lots for the two goats: one lot for the Lord and the other lot for the scapegoat. And Aaron shall bring the goat on which the Lord's lot fell, and offer it as a sin offering. But the goat on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the Lord, to make atonement upon it, and to let it go as the scapegoat into the wilderness."



a. Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering, which is for himself: After the sacrificing the bull as a sin offering for himself (detailed in Leviticus 16:11-14), the high priest cast lots to choose between the two goats.



i. The Talmud stipulated that the two goats be as alike as possible - in size, color, and value.



b. Then Aaron shall cast lots for the two goats: one lot for the Lord and the other lot for the scapegoat: One goat was for the Lord and would be sacrificed as a sin offering and one goat would be the scapegoat and would be released to the wilderness. Each goat had an important role on the Day of Atonement.



i. The scapegoat was literally the "escape goat." It escaped death and went into the wilderness. Scapegoat translates the Hebrew word azazel. “The meaning of this word is far from certain . . . The word may perhaps signify ‘removal’ or ‘dismissal’ . . . Probably the best explanation is that the word was a rare technical term describing ‘complete removal.’” (Harrison)



ii. There were elaborate Jewish traditions about Azazel, saying he was a demonic being that the Messiah would defeat. More likely, azazel simply refered to this goat’s function of symbolically removing sin from Israel.



2. (11-14) The bull for the sin offering.



"And Aaron shall bring the bull of the sin offering, which is for himself, and make atonement for himself and for his house, and shall kill the bull as the sin offering which is for himself. Then he shall take a censer full of burning coals of fire from the altar before the Lord, with his hands full of sweet incense beaten fine, and bring it inside the veil. And he shall put the incense on the fire before the Lord, that the cloud of incense may cover the mercy seat that is on the Testimony, lest he die. He shall take some of the blood of the bull and sprinkle it with his finger on the mercy seat on the east side; and before the mercy seat he shall sprinkle some of the blood with his finger seven times."



a. The bull of the sin offering, which is for himself: This sin offering was for himself and for his house. Before the high priest could make atonement for the nation, he had to make atonement for himself.



i. When Jesus offered a perfect atonement for sin, He did not need to make a sin offering for Himself: For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever. (Hebrews 7:26-28)



b. He shall take some of the blood of the bull and sprinkle it with his finger on the mercy seat: The blood of this sin offering had to be sprinkled on the mercy seat, which was the lid to the ark of the covenant, which sat in the Holy Place. When he came into the Holy Place, he had to come with a smoking censer that gave off a cloud of incense.



i. According to Jewish tradition, it was on the Day of Atonement that the high priest - and only the high priest - could pronounce the name of God, the sacred Tetragrammaton YHWH. When he entered the Holy Place with the blood of the goat set apart to the Lord, he would utter the name. He was the only one, and that was the only time, when the name could be uttered, and the high priest was to pass on the exact pronunciation of the name of God to his successor with his dying breath.



c. Before the mercy seat he shall sprinkle some of the blood: The idea was that God was above the mercy seat (I will appear in the cloud above the mercy seat, Leviticus 16:2), and as He looked down upon the ark of the covenant, He saw the sin of man. Man's sin was represented by the items in the ark of the covenant: Manna Israel complained about, tablets of law Israel broke, and a budding almond rod given as a response to Israel’s rebellion. Then, the high priest sprinkled atoning blood seven times on the mercy seat - covering over the emblems of Israel’s sin. God saw the blood cover over the sin, and atonement was made.



i. This captures the thought behind the Hebrew word for atonement: Kipper, which means, “to cover.” Sin was not removed, but covered over by sacrificial blood. The New Testament idea of atonement is that our sin is not merely covered, but removed - taken away, so there is no barrier between God and man any longer.



3. (15-19) The goat selected for sacrifice is offered to make atonement for the tabernacle.



"Then he shall kill the goat of the sin offering, which is for the people, bring its blood inside the veil, do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat and before the mercy seat. So he shall make atonement for the Holy Place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions, for all their sins; and so he shall do for the tabernacle of meeting which remains among them in the midst of their uncleanness. There shall be no man in the tabernacle of meeting when he goes in to make atonement in the Holy Place, until he comes out, that he may make atonement for himself, for his household, and for all the assembly of Israel. And he shall go out to the altar that is before the Lord, and make atonement for it, and shall take some of the blood of the bull and some of the blood of the goat, and put it on the horns of the altar all around. Then he shall sprinkle some of the blood on it with his finger seven times, cleanse it, and consecrate it from the uncleanness of the children of Israel."



a. Then he shall kill the goat of the sin offering: The goat that was sacrificed was also like Jesus, in that the goat was spotless, was from the people of Israel (Leviticus 16:5), was chosen by God (Leviticus 16:8), and the goat’s blood was taken to the Holy Place to provide atonement.



b. So he shall make atonement for the Holy Place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel: This blood was applied to the mercy seat, but also the tabernacle and altar itself. This blood cleansed the house of God itself, which was made ceremonially unclean by man’s constant touch.



4. (20-22) The release of the scapegoat.



"And when he has made an end of atoning for the Holy Place, the tabernacle of meeting, and the altar, he shall bring the live goat. Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, confess over it all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions, concerning all their sins, putting them on the head of the goat, and shall send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a suitable man. The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to an uninhabited land; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness."



a. When he has made an end of atoning for the Holy Place: After the high priest’s sin was dealt with and after the tabernacle itself was cleansed, Aaron then dealt with the sin of the people through the transference of sin and release of the scapegoat.



b. He shall release the goat in the wilderness: This was a perfect demonstration of atonement under the Old Covenant, before the completed work of Jesus on the cross. Sin could be put away, but never really eliminated. The sin-bearing goat, bearing the sin of Israel, was alive somewhere but put away.



i. One ancient Rabbi says the goat was taken ten miles out of Jerusalem, and there were refreshment stations each mile along the way for the man who escorted the goat out of the city. He finally went the ten miles and then watched the goat wander off until he could see the goat no more. Then the sin was gone and the Day of Atonement was considered complete.



ii. Sin was put away - but not completely. How could one know for certain that God had accepted the sacrifice on the Day of Atonement? What if someone accidentally encountered the scapegoat in the wilderness? What if the scapegoat wandered back among the people of Israel? Through their traditions, the Jews began to deal with these concerns. “On the head of the scape-goat a piece of scarlet cloth was tied, and the tradition of the Jews states that if God accepted the sacrifice the scarlet cloth turned white while the goat was led to the desert; but if God had not accepted this expiation, the redness continued, and the rest of the year was spent in mourning.” (Clarke) Through this, they thought to have a certainty about the work of atonement.



iii. It seems that later the Jewish people altered the ceremony so the goat would be killed and have no chance of contacting Israel again. “The Jews write, that this goat was carried to the mountain called Azazel, whence the goat is so called; and that there he was cast headlong; and that the red string by which he was led turned white when God was pleased with the Israelites, otherwise it remained red; and they mourned all that year.” (Poole)



iv. “And the ancient Hebrews write, that forty years before the destruction of the temple, which was about the time of Christ’s death, this red string turned no more white.” (Poole) When Jesus’ blood red body rose from the dead, clothed with white garments, it was proof forever that the red had changed to white - and atonement at the cross was perfect and complete.



5. (23-28) Completion of the sacrifices.



"Then Aaron shall come into the tabernacle of meeting, shall take off the linen garments which he put on when he went into the Holy Place, and shall leave them there. And he shall wash his body with water in a holy place, put on his garments, come out and offer his burnt offering and the burnt offering of the people, and make atonement for himself and for the people. The fat of the sin offering he shall burn on the altar. And he who released the goat as the scapegoat shall wash his clothes and bathe his body in water, and afterward he may come into the camp. The bull for the sin offering and the goat for the sin offering, whose blood was brought in to make atonement in the Holy Place, shall be carried outside the camp. And they shall burn in the fire their skins, their flesh, and their offal. Then he who burns them shall wash his clothes and bathe his body in water, and afterward he may come into the camp."



a. He shall wash his body with water in a holy place: After releasing the scapegoat, the high priest and the one who released the scapegoat washed and the sin offering and burnt offering would be completed.



b. Take off the linen garments . . . put on his garments: When atonement was finished, the priest emerged from the tabernacle in glory - with the humble garments taken off and in his normal clothes for glory and beauty.



i. On the Day of Atonement, the high priest was humble (Leviticus 16:4), he was spotless (Leviticus 16:11), and he was alone (Leviticus 16:11-14), and he emerged victorious - just like Jesus was in accomplishing our work of atonement.



6. (29-31) What the people did on the Day of Atonement.



"This shall be a statute forever for you: In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether a native of your own country or a stranger who dwells among you. For on that day the priest shall make atonement for you, to cleanse you, that you may be clean from all your sins before the Lord. It is a sabbath of solemn rest for you, and you shall afflict your souls. It is a statute forever."



a. You shall afflict your souls: In contrast to other national days of gathering, the Day of Atonement was a day to afflict your souls. That is, it was a day of fasting and rest - a sabbath of solemn rest.



i. Modern Jews who do observe the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) typically fast for that day. Yet they have no sacrifice for sins.



· Some Jews consider their own sacrifice to be a suitable substitute; today some sacrifice a rooster for every male in the family, and a hen for every female, on the day of atonement - a vague shadow of obedience to Leviticus 16.

· Some Jews consider charity a suitable substitute for sacrifice; the word “charity” in modern Hebrew is the same as the word for “righteousness.”

· Some Jews consider sufferings a suitable substitute for sacrifice; among the Jews of Eastern Europe there used to be custom to inflict 39 lashes upon themselves on the Day of Atonement.

· Some Jews consider good works or the study of the law as suitable substitutes for sacrifice.



b. That you may be clean from all your sins before the Lord: God wanted them to afflict themselves so they could identify with the sacrifice for sin. Afflicting the soul brought the Israelite into sympathy with the afflicted sacrificial victim, even as the believer identifies with Jesus Christ on the cross.



c. It is a sabbath of solemn rest for you: This sabbath of solemn rest demanded a cessation of works, even as the believer is justified and finds atonement apart from his own works, being justified by the work of another. This means that all the charity, all the sufferings, all the study of the law in the world cannot atone for sin - we must rest in the finished work of Jesus Christ on our behalf.



i. Yom Kippur ends with the blowing of the Shofar, the trumpet that heralds the coming of the Messiah. An ancient prayer in a Jewish Day of Atonement liturgy reads:



Our righteous Messiah has departed from us,

We are horror-stricken, and have none to justify us.

Our iniquities and the yoke of our transgressions

He carries who is wounded because of our transgressions

He bears on His shoulder the burden of our sins.

To find pardon for all our iniquities.

By His stripes we shall be healed -

O Eternal One, it is time that thou should create Him anew!



7. (32-34) What the high priest does on the Day of Atonement.



"And the priest, who is anointed and consecrated to minister as priest in his father's place, shall make atonement, and put on the linen clothes, the holy garments; then he shall make atonement for the Holy Sanctuary, and he shall make atonement for the tabernacle of meeting and for the altar, and he shall make atonement for the priests and for all the people of the assembly. This shall be an everlasting statute for you, to make atonement for the children of Israel, for all their sins, once a year." And he did as the Lord commanded Moses."



a. He shall make atonement for the Holy Sanctuary: This meant the priest and only the priest. Only once a year could any man - and then, only one man - enter into the Holy Place and come near the presence of God.



b. For all their sins, once a year: To this summary of what was previously described in the chapter is the reminder that this is to be done once a year.



i. Every year, year after year, this atonement had to be made, showing it was never completed. In contrast, Jesus provided a finished work: For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another; He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. (Hebrews 9:24-28)

http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/0316.htm

John 18:36
Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."

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Old 26-11-2011, 06:46 PM   #3
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Britney Spears - Till The World Ends And the red dress
lucifer is suppose to feminie in believe in the occult or both sexes.
The painting in the vatican has the serpent having boobs.
But the sex thing doesnt matter as much.focus on higher viberations.Thats said
The reptillans the queen runs them and the goddess from past civilization.
ON the square is the feminie in masonic.

The video starts out with the pryamid and they go underground (The Fall)through the south east drainpipe says on drain pipe lol(cornerstione)(masonic ritual)Down to the goddess who is having fun and orgy type stuff.The symbol in the background is the target symbol which is the male in the female or the oblisk or sun sign.And the ouroboros serpent /leviathan is cicrling as smoking serpent
The pryamid gets capped by the sun and then at the end.The earth is gettiong destroyed up above. The goddess wears the red dress and everybody dies on earth and she comes out on earth with the sun and there is no humans.

hillary clinton wore the red dress before they destroyed libya
Same with the red dress in the matrix
Also because obama didnt go into iran recently .In hawaii at the confernece the reporter was wearing red and ask why he didnt .The next couple of days the white house was shot by some person friom idaho with a assult rifle.Which there were ton of different stories at first.

VERY VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also when kennedy got killed right before he was shot in the background was the lady with the red dress watch video.


IN revelation the lady wears red who rides the beast.
The red dress is very very very important
I am asumming basicaly it means dont tread on me.
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dont foget 'carbon'

most all life is based on carbon, right?

at least everyone YOU know.

the most prevelant isotope is Carbon - 12

which chemically is of 6 electrons, 6 protons and 6 neutrons

basically everyone you ever even read about, thought about and know is living on 666.

brand em all with 'understanding'

then tell them, there aint nuttin they can do about it either!

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yea interesting, I looked it up.. makes sense.I did not know that about carbon 12.Thanks for the info.
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The thing with all religions is that though art better then though mentality/energetic energy also even with forums.A paradigm not for me to fall back in.but its human nature.Because every thing is energetic energy

ITs all about lifting peoples vibrational energy up and doing good and Truth And finding yourself and who you are in this state of being/dimension.

When Life throws tons and tons of lemons.Thats when it is time to go make some lemonade.
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The thing with all religions is that though art better then though mentality/energetic energy also even with forums.A paradigm not for me to fall back in.but its human nature.Because every thing is energetic energy

ITs all about lifting peoples vibrational energy up and doing good and Truth And finding yourself and who you are in this state of being/dimension.

When Life throws tons and tons of lemons.Thats when it is time to go make some lemonade.



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What came first the chicken or the egg?
Neither did....
The God spark!
We can not perceive in are lower dimensions
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They had no symbols on them 2nd Also Thou shalt have no graven image before me.3rd.Why would you glorify the symbol who killed the saviour.
Here you have fallen. The cross is the next holy thing since he shed his blood on it.

It makes well that 6 is for man, 66 is for fallen angel and 666 is for fallen angel and man, that is to say, someone who has lost his soul to the devil. Which basically means one is evil without regret.

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Yea true.
The cross no.... some said he died on a tree or a stake,if you study into it.
The cross is a pagan image and always has been.
THE whole point is not the objectt but the messiah For in energetics that takes away from the source of your intention.do not focus on objects there lifeless
There was a point for the ten commandments..

freewill
but that also being said we Where made in the image of the elohim.
Also the tree of knowledge of good and evil was in the garden and again like i said we were split in the garden..
So this came before we were created this split energy.which concludes that only in time we were gonna fall.
So we where predestined to fall
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Yea true.
The cross no.... some said he died on a tree or a stake,if you study into it.
The cross is a pagan image and always has been.
THE whole point is not the objectt but the messiah For in energetics that takes away from the source of your intention.do not focus on objects there lifeless
There was a point for the ten commandments..

freewill
but that also being said we Where made in the image of the elohim.
Also the tree of knowledge of good and evil was in the garden and again like i said we were split in the garden..
So this came before we were created this split energy.which concludes that only in time we were gonna fall.
So we where predestined to fall
You are correct. There was no cross.
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You are correct. There was no cross.
My point is the (object) doesnt matter.Rather it is the cross or a stake or a tree.
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My point is the (object) doesnt matter.Rather it is the cross or a stake or a tree.
Why do Christians wear crosses as jewelry instead of trees or stakes?
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You are correct. There was no cross.
And you know how? A cross is perfectly well a tree, modelled into a cross.

And why don't take this argument with your psychic friend Amorah Quan Yin, she says there wer crosses.

Shit, I just realized I'm wasting time in these arguments because I don't have a life.
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And you know how? A cross is perfectly well a tree, modelled into a cross.

And why don't take this argument with your psychic friend Amorah Quan Yin, she says there wer crosses.

Shit, I just realized I'm wasting time in these arguments because I don't have a life.
How do I know? I studied the bible. Maybe you should try it.

Who is amorah quan yin? I have no clue who that is and she is not my friend, because I do not know her.

I am sorry that you do not have a life, maybe you should make one for yourself.
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How do I know? I studied the bible. Maybe you should try it.

Who is amorah quan yin? I have no clue who that is and she is not my friend, because I do not know her.

I am sorry that you do not have a life, maybe you should make one for yourself.
You studied the Bible and found out Jesus was not nailed to a cross? My goodness...

And why do you ask me to make a life? Since I can't even make one hair white or black.

It does still appear to me that you are in line with the psychics and so indeed Amorah is your friend and your kind.
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You studied the Bible and found out Jesus was not nailed to a cross? My goodness...

And why do you ask me to make a life? Since I can't even make one hair white or black.

It does still appear to me that you are in line with the psychics and so indeed Amorah is your friend and your kind.
"A serious historical challenge comes from Dan Barker, former Christian evangelist turned atheist, in his book LOSING FAITH IN FAITH. In chapter 26, "Cross Examination", he argues that (much to his own surprise) there is no cross anywhere in the Bible. The word "cross" in the Bible is translated from the Greek word (insert Greek letters here, haha) pronounced stau-ross or stav-ross, and "crucify" is from stav-ro-oh. Lidell and Scott's A GREEK-ENGLISH LEXICON devine stav-ross as "an upright pale or stake. Of piles driven is to serve as a foundation. A pale for impaling a corpse." Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon, a "King James" reference much used by believers, agrees, and says the English word "staff" derives from stav-ross. W.E. Vine's EXPOSITORY DICTIONARY OF NEW TESTAMENT WORDS reports that stav-ross "denotes, primarily, an upright pale or stake. On such malefactors were nailed for execution. Both the noun and the verb... are originally to be distinguished from the ecclesiastical form of a two-beamed cross. The shape of the latter had its origin in ancient Chaldea and was used as the symbol of the god Tammuz (being in the shape of the mystic Tau, the initial of his name)... By the middle of the third century... pagans were received in the churches... and were permitted largely to retain their pagan signs and symbols. Hence the Tau, or T, in its most frequent forms, with the cross-piece lowered, was adopted to stand for the cross of Christ."

So, (he quotes other sources), the Romans used upright stakes for their executions, on which the victim was killed..., "it was sometimes pointed and thrust through the victim to pin him to the earth, or he was placed on top of the stake with its point upwards so that it gradually pierced his body; or he was tied upon it and left until death intervened; and there were other methods too. There is not a scrap of evidence that a stav-ross was ever in the form of a cross or even a T-shape."

There is no cross in early Christian art before the middle of the fifth century. The first clear crucifix appears in the seventh century. Before then Jesus is almost always depicted as a fish or a shepherd, never on a cross. Constantine's supposed fourth-century vision of a cross in the sky was not of the instrument of execution, it was of the Greek letter X (chi) with a P (rho) through it, the well known "monogram" of Christ, from the first two letters of the Greek word for Christ.

So, Dan Barker argues, the traditional "cross" is a symbol derived from pagan sources and is not a historically accurate shape of the Roman instrument of execution. He writes "scholars have been aware of the error but have been unable to resist the traditional mistranslation. In the Eighteenth century some Anglican bishops recommended eliminating the cross symbol altogether, but they were ignored."


http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/RomanCrosses.htm




Crucify-http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H8518&t=KJV

Note that the Gesenius Lexicon states -H8518 To hang anyone on a stake, to crucify, a form of punishment among the Israelits, the Egyptians, and the Persians.
It also lists the first crucifixion as being in Genesis 40:19 Within three days Pharaoh will lift off your head and impale your body on a pole. And the birds will eat away your flesh.”

It was a Pharaoh that is mentioned in this crucifixion, and Pharoahs are from Egypt.

The old testament god also used crucifixion as a means of punishment here:

Deut. 21: 22 If someone guilty of a capital offense is put to death and their body is exposed on a pole, 23 you must not leave the body hanging on the pole overnight because anyone who is hung on a tree is under God's curse. You must not desecrate the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance.

Notice here that the different versions sway between a pole and a tree here http://bible.cc/deuteronomy/21-23.htm

We find by looking at these two verses that a cross is inconsequential to the actual crucifixion. This is not what crucifixion was about, as we can see here using the Lexicon. It was a form of corporeal punishment. This corporeal punishment is still being done today as they inject the criminal in front of a public audience or years ago when there were public hangings. We will find that a cross is not necessary and not always prevalent in the various myths. Sometimes it is just a pole, stake, wood, or tree as both of these are used in the Bible. As shown in the Deuteronomy verse, death on a pole while being exposed was used by Yahweh as punishment.


Greek Lexicon-CROSS-UPRIGHT POLE OR STAKE
http://books.google.pl/books?id=azBH...=cross&f=false


Your presumption of me is wrong.

You can make something of your life, if you think that you cannot then you do not have freewill.
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But Jesus was crucified in Rome and by Rome (even if on behalf of the Jews), wasn't he? That he in a literal sense was "staffed" does not disprove he was not crucified, only a preference of the author.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_c...n#Ancient_Rome

Amorah even argues, and as it goes in the psychic circles, that to "pick up your cross" means going against the state.

Also, anyone can see that the cross is not a T and that's why it is called "cross".

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You can make something of your life, if you think that you cannot then you do not have freewill.
My will is to know God, not to pursue my own vanity.

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But Jesus was crucified in Rome and by Rome (even if on behalf of the Jews), wasn't he? That he in a literal sense was "staffed" does not disprove he was not crucified, only a preference of the author.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_c...n#Ancient_Rome

Amorah even argues, and as it goes in the psychic circles, that to "pick up your cross" means going against the state.



My will is to know God, not to pursue my own vanity.
I do not care what this Amorah argues, I do not know who she is, nor do I care, I have just proven it using the bible and the Lexicons.

Can you admit it or are you going to give me another wiki article saying something else?


If your will is to know God then look around you and then make a life for yourself, he gave you freewill for a reason.
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