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Old 07-07-2015, 02:35 PM   #21
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There is still a long way to go.... It is logistically impossible for this to happen "overnight"

There is a wal mart right now in Austin that
ONLY accepts plastic!!!

So there are test sites going on right now.
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:28 AM   #22
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Meanwhile, in other news, CASH is the only thing that is currently keeping normal people and society afloat, in Greece. And CASH is the one thing they are hoping tourists will bring plenty of because their immediate lives depend on it. Every transaction dependent on electronic is grinding to a halt, or stopped completely already. Imagine if there was no cash at all in Greece - the whole country would be in total lock-down now.

I imagine those interested in 'cashless societies' are studying Greece very intently now...
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:39 AM   #23
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^Step One. ^

Step Two: Little plastic cards are so easily lost. Would be a good idea to have a microchip tattoo on your arm which you could just swipe.

Step Three: Hmm, stick on tattoo's keep falling off, why not just have a real microchip tat? Very cool!!

Step Four: Oh Fuck it! Here, Just inject this chip into your body ( head or arm) And payment can be made simple with a nod of the head or a wave of the hand.

Job Done!!

That's 3 steps to many, according to many Danes (and the other Scandinavians) who'd like nothing better than to skip straight to Step 4. They'd queue up for the microchip tomorrow if it was available.

The normal people's rationalisations for cashless society: It's so practical, it's so easy, as I have my mobile device glued to my hand all the time anyway, and I don't have to think about anything. Which is great if your highest aspiration in life is to be a mindless drone plugged in to the internet 24/7 and COMPLETELY dependent on the government.

The government's rationalisations for cashless society: We will know everything, and control everything, and tax everything. We will be in total control. We can lock down the entire society with a flip of the switch. Which is great if you want a society of mindless drones plugged into the internet 24/7 and completely dependent on you.

Meanwhile, media (and none more so than the left-leaning ones which are most adamantly pushing for cashless societies) are awash with articles about how CASH is the only thing that is keeping Greek society afloat right now.

Isn't it wonderful?

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Old 08-07-2015, 10:47 AM   #24
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I'm hearing Apple Pay is going live in the UK Next Tuesday.
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Old 09-07-2015, 12:46 PM   #25
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I'm hearing Apple Pay is going live in the UK Next Tuesday.
A cashless society is wanted not only by TPTB but many mainstream economists are supporting the idea , so I'm guessing these corporate solutions will become more apparent
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There you go.

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Taylor Review: UK should end cash in hand economy
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Mrs May will say: "I am clear that this government will act to ensure that the interests of employees on traditional contracts, the self-employed and those people working in the 'gig' economy are all properly protected."

www. bbc.co.uk/news/business-40561807
It's for your protection!!

What I am interested in is this.... Will it ever possible even if we become cashless?

Like black market always existed, what will be the equivalent in cashless society?
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Old 11-07-2017, 02:43 AM   #27
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I got a massive eye opener to cashless transactions when I come over to China. Over hear everyone is geared up to send and receive money useing there mobile phone. From big stores to paying for your car parking to buying food from street venders they all except electronic transactions. Even the poorest people who make there living collecting bottles to sell to the recycleing plant use electronic transaction. Over hear at least for now it works very well.
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When all transactions are done electronically then you are leaving a trail.
So the little man ,or woman with their cash in hand bunce will be no more.

However the Global tax avoiders will just carry on as usual.....
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It makes me sick to my stomach to even think about it.
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I got a massive eye opener to cashless transactions when I come over to China. Over hear everyone is geared up to send and receive money useing there mobile phone. From big stores to paying for your car parking to buying food from street venders they all except electronic transactions. Even the poorest people who make there living collecting bottles to sell to the recycleing plant use electronic transaction. Over hear at least for now it works very well.
Until the system crashes. Last week I had to go to the Teller machine to get cash because they system at the chemist was done and they couldn't do anything electronically.
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Until the system crashes. Last week I had to go to the Teller machine to get cash because they system at the chemist was done and they couldn't do anything electronically.
What would take for the system to collapse? Globally? What sort of imaginable event? Financial system is so ingrained in our society and usually I am optimistic but I can't imagine a way out of this. I know you guys have suggested Bradley £ or bartering but it is hardly taking off.
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Well David Icke said that this was gonna happen, and not many people took much notice, but they will be FORCED to take notice very soon. Stupid sheeple.
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Until the system crashes. Last week I had to go to the Teller machine to get cash because they system at the chemist was done and they couldn't do anything electronically.
Yes very true it's the problem with relying on electronic systems, coins and notes can't really fail in the same way and will still work even if the whol grid was to go down. But if that happened I think cash would be the least of our worries.
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Well David Icke said that this was gonna happen, and not many people took much notice, but they will be FORCED to take notice very soon. Stupid sheeple.
IDK jake, random people that I spoke with whenever I had an opportunity, they understand what's coming. If you said to them, "aliens are coming!" they might still raise an eyebrow but they get the cashless society and its consequence. The only question is...what can they do? They don't know.
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What would take for the system to collapse? Globally? What sort of imaginable event? Financial system is so ingrained in our society and usually I am optimistic but I can't imagine a way out of this. I know you guys have suggested Bradley £ or bartering but it is hardly taking off.
Good question think we are looking at one of two things, some kind of hack/ virus that disables the Internet or makes it to vulnerable for transactions. Or another carrington event al a 1859. If it's the latter and we are over due one we could be well and truly fucked. Planes dropping from the sky nuclear power stallions/nuclear missiles going critical sort of fucked.
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Good question think we are looking at one of two things, some kind of hack/ virus that disables the Internet or makes it to vulnerable for transactions. Or another carrington event al a 1859. If it's the latter and we are over due one we could be well and truly fucked. Planes dropping from the sky nuclear power stallions/nuclear missiles going critical sort of fucked.
As for internet hacking/virus, it's already happening, may be not all the banks at the same time and it hasn't stopped people from using cashless means.

As for the armageddon, we won't be needing cash then.
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IDK jake, random people that I spoke with whenever I had an opportunity, they understand what's coming. If you said to them, "aliens are coming!" they might still raise an eyebrow but they get the cashless society and its consequence. The only question is...what can they do? They don't know.
Yes I agree that when yer speak to people about it, they say that they dont see a problem with paying without cash, and they tend to go on to say that the next logical step is to phase out cash, like it's a natural progression. But not so long ago, the same people were saying to me, "No, there will ALWAYS be cash".
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Yes I agree that when yer speak to people about it, they say that they dont see a problem with paying without cash, and they tend to go on to say that the next logical step is to phase out cash, like it's a natural progression. But not so long ago, the same people were saying to me, "No, there will ALWAYS be cash".
No Jake, some people will say they don't see a problem with the cashless society but the ones I talked understands that their life saving could be wiped off with a click of a button and they also know once they hand over their cash to the bank, it's not their money...in a strange way but you get that, dono't ya?
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No Jake, some people will say they don't see a problem with the cashless society but the ones I talked understands that their life saving could be wiped off with a click of a button and they also know once they hand over their cash to the bank, it's not their money...in a strange way but you get that, dono't ya?
One reason I keep very little of my wealth in the bank or indeed in cash.
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No Jake, some people will say they don't see a problem with the cashless society but the ones I talked understands that their life saving could be wiped off with a click of a button and they also know once they hand over their cash to the bank, it's not their money...in a strange way but you get that, dono't ya?
Well the people that I spoke/speak to are NOT into conspiracy theories, and they really dont see a problem with a cashless society (cos they havent really thought of the implications of a cashless society) - Or they may alternatively say that a cashless society isnt gonna happen (at least "not in our lifetime").

Some people that I know HAVE started to realise that a cashless is definitely coming, and they think that they have to just accept it (like everything that society throws their way). But what I am saying is, is that the sheeple (including the people who I talked to) are gonna really suffer due to the cashless society (ie their ignorance will NOT be bliss).
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