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Old 13-02-2018, 03:13 PM   #1
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'The costumes actually involve sacred geometry. Racked caught up with 'Black Panther' costume designer Ruth E. Carter to see what the inspiration was behind dressing the characters on the film. Inspired by various African tribes and the symbolic triangle, you can find the culture in every piece of the Marvel film.'

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Old 13-02-2018, 06:10 PM   #2
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sounds a bit....how can i put this?.....lacking in.....hmmm...well.....diversity

also it mentioned that the main character was a king....which i'm afraid is patriarchal

also the focus on native cultures is inclusive and natavist and will exclude anyone else of other cultures that wishes to settle in africa

so my verdict is that it scores -5 on the political correctness scale

also i heard it said that he is the first black super hero which is BS as Hancock was
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sounds a bit....how can i put this?.....lacking in.....hmmm...well.....diversity

also it mentioned that the main character was a king....which i'm afraid is patriarchal

also the focus on native cultures is inclusive and natavist and will exclude anyone else of other cultures that wishes to settle in africa

so my verdict is that it scores -5 on the political correctness scale

also i heard it said that he is the first black super hero which is BS as Hancock was
Quite unlike Hollywood to forget to tick the boxes but I'm sure they'll make up for it.
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lol the king is this movie is probably a transgender
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Old 14-02-2018, 10:49 AM   #5
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Quite unlike Hollywood to forget to tick the boxes but I'm sure they'll make up for it.
there seems to be a nationalist element to it as well as its about an african nation

i expect to hear the progressives roundly criticising this movie for its rank rejection of political correctness...
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lol the king is this movie is probably a transgender
no i think he identifies with an animal...i'm not sure what the technical name for that is

this lady also self-identifies as a cat:

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no i think he identifies with an animal...i'm not sure what the technical name for that is
Anthropomorphism. Or a related word.
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Anthropomorphism. Or a related word.
i believe the PC name for it is 'otherkin'

here is the 'fairy star' that otherkin use to identify themselves to others of their IDENTITY group

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i believe the PC name for it is 'otherkin'

here is the 'fairy star' that otherkin use to identify themselves to others of their IDENTITY group

It seems as though it's more about them taking a tiny fragment of the self and identifying with that little piece as though it's their whole being.

In ancient cultures a variety of phenomena would be used as a metaphor to describe some personality attribute or event. We have the behavioural potential to be hawkish, dove-like, courageous as lions (and panthers), cunning like serpents and foxes etc.

Best to relate back to the ancient allegories, I say.

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It seems as though it's more about them taking a tiny fragment of the self and identifying with that little piece as though it's their whole being.

In ancient cultures a variety of phenomena would be used as a metaphor to describe some personality attribute or event. We have the behavioural potential to be hawkish, dove-like, courageous as lions (and panthers), cunning like serpents and foxes etc.

Best to relate back to the ancient allegories, I say.
oh sure i have no problem with poetic thinking which is what anthropomorphism is about but the people behind hollywood who make the movies people rush out to see have AGENDAS

For example batman is another otherkin film where you have a billionaire who chooses to use his wealth to build tanks and weapons so that he can beat people up instead of finding ways to ALLEVIATE POVERTY and thereby lessen crime levels
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oh sure i have no problem with poetic thinking which is what anthropomorphism is about but the people behind hollywood who make the movies people rush out to see have AGENDAS

For example batman is another otherkin film where you have a billionaire who chooses to use his wealth to build tanks and weapons so that he can beat people up instead of finding ways to ALLEVIATE POVERTY and thereby lessen crime levels
Oh yes, the hero symbolism has been subverted many times. I may go and see this film, though, to see what the narrative is.
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Oh yes, the hero symbolism has been subverted many times. I may go and see this film, though, to see what the narrative is.
i'd be interested too

Although black people are the obvious target audience for this particular piece of cultural social engineering it won't be funded and produced by black people so it would be interesting to see what agendas may be subconsciously embedded in there
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oh sure i have no problem with poetic thinking which is what anthropomorphism is about but the people behind hollywood who make the movies people rush out to see have AGENDAS

For example batman is another otherkin film where you have a billionaire who chooses to use his wealth to build tanks and weapons so that he can beat people up instead of finding ways to ALLEVIATE POVERTY and thereby lessen crime levels
"The Wayne Foundation is the holding company for the Thomas Wayne Foundation and the Martha Wayne Foundation; it is the largest transparently operated private foundation within the DC Universe. The primary aims of the foundation are, globally, to enhance healthcare and reduce extreme poverty, to expand educational opportunities and access to information technology, and to fund scientific research and help altruistic people with research by providing facilities and training. The scale of the foundation and the way it seeks to apply business techniques to giving makes it one of the leaders in venture philanthropy, though the foundation itself notes that the philanthropic role has limitations."

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"The Wayne Foundation is the holding company for the Thomas Wayne Foundation and the Martha Wayne Foundation; it is the largest transparently operated private foundation within the DC Universe. The primary aims of the foundation are, globally, to enhance healthcare and reduce extreme poverty, to expand educational opportunities and access to information technology, and to fund scientific research and help altruistic people with research by providing facilities and training. The scale of the foundation and the way it seeks to apply business techniques to giving makes it one of the leaders in venture philanthropy, though the foundation itself notes that the philanthropic role has limitations.''.
lol

when was that written?

jimmy saville was a 'philanthropist'
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when was that written?

jimmy saville was a 'philanthropist'
Gotham, in case you didn't know is fictional. In that fictional reality Batman A.K.A Bruce Wayne is a good guy.
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Gotham, in case you didn't know is fictional. In that fictional reality Batman A.K.A Bruce Wayne is a good guy.
its basically new york
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It's Gotham City.
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It's Gotham City.
which is really a comic world reflection of new york city
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i'd be interested too

Although black people are the obvious target audience for this particular piece of cultural social engineering it won't be funded and produced by black people so it would be interesting to see what agendas may be subconsciously embedded in there
From the trailer, it looks like a thoughtful presentation of African cultures, for a change, which is 'so far, so good'. So how the full film pans out, who knows?
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It's had a very positive review in the Guardian.

A black superhero who’s no second prize – Black Panther is a Marvel

by Eliza Anyangwe, @elizatalks
Thu 1 Feb 2018

Not since Blade has a hero of colour held the limelight: the comic-book adaptation is both a perfectly timed political commentary and a celebration of blackness

About a minute into the official Black Panther trailer, I realise I’ve been holding my breath. Hunched over, nose close to the screen, it’s as if I’m subconsciously trying to fold my body into Marvel’s cinematic universe. If this is a baptism, I want full immersion.

And if its record-breaking advance ticket sales are anything to go by, it seems I’m not the only one breathlessly awaiting the feature-length adventures of Wakanda’s king, T’Challa.

Part of the excitement is because cinemagoers finally have a black superhero who doesn’t feel like a consolation prize. Director Ryan Coogler’s all-black cast far surpasses previous paltry offerings to the black and brown people whose dollars and pounds turn films into blockbusters, yet who rarely see themselves represented with any depth or diversity on the big screen.

Not since the Blade trilogy, starring Wesley Snipes, has a hero of colour held the limelight. We have to go back to 1998, when the first part was released to critical acclaim and commercial success. Let’s not dwell on the other two.

But the fervour over this film is about so much more than mere representation: Black Panther is both a celebration of blackness and perfectly timed political commentary. “The movie plays to a romanticised version of Africa,” says David Roberts of Entertainlynx. “Magical kingdoms, ruled by emperors and untouched by the white man.”

In a year that marks the 50th anniversary of the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr, 60 years since the Notting Hill race riots and 90 years since women aged over 21 got the vote in the UK, here is a movie set in an east African country, albeit a fictitious one, which is the most technologically advanced in the world.

Wakanda has never been colonised. As well as being a superhero, Black Panther, played by Chadwick Boseman, is a religious figurehead and a political leader whose strength comes from his intellect, the superior technology in his suit, a herb that only he can eat without being poisoned, and the knowledge of his ancestors. It’s Afrofuturistic gold.

His 16-year-old sister, Shuri (Letitia Wright), is the smartest person in the world, and he is guarded by an elite female force who, according to writer Ta-Nehisi Coates’s reboot of the story, are more equal than subservient: not just black and proud, but also feminist.

But the comic’s history hasn’t always been so political. In fact, having created the character in July 1966, just months before the revolutionary organisation of the same name was founded, Marvel’s Stan Lee and Jack Kirby went to some lengths to distance their superhero from the politics of the day. In 1972, the character explained in a Fantastic Four comic why he was now called Black Leopard, saying his old name “has ... political connotations. I neither condemn nor condone those who have taken up the name, but T’Challa is a law unto himself.”

In the 70s, as new black heroes emerged from Blaxploitation films to grapple with the racial, social, economic and political issues of the day, Marvel’s writers once more attempted to make Black Panther more openly political. In one storyline, the Wakandan took on the Ku Klux Klan, but this braver political writing was apparently met with resistance or indifference.

No such indifference today. The Black Panther preview on YouTube has been watched more than 34m times in the countdown to the February release. The film’s stars are some of the most recognisable black actors, a combination of Africans from the continent and the diaspora: Angela Bassett plays T’Challa’s stepmother, Ramonda; Lupita Nyong’o is Nakia, a member of the Dora Milaje; Michael B Jordan is our villain, Erik Killmonger – tellingly, a Wakandan who grew up in exile; and, having already mesmerised audiences in 2017’s big black film Get Out, British-Ugandan actor Daniel Kaluuya joins the cast as W’Kabi, T’Challa’s best friend. (I’d like to imagine that the pictures of Kaluuya wearing traditional dress at Monday’s premiere broke the internet in Uganda.)

Kaluuya saw the event as an occasion to celebrate his heritage, and so too will I when I head to my local cinema. I’ve pulled the gele out of the closet. A Maasai necklace sits next to it. My scarab beetle bracelet and Xhosa blanket complete the pile. Each item might be from a different part of Africa, but accuracy isn’t the point here: Black Panther belongs to us all.

• Eliza Anyangwe is a freelance writer and the founder of The Nzinga Effect

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