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Old 11-02-2018, 06:42 PM   #761
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This is a funny one ...Norwegian sound with English subtitles ....

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No way on this planet are you an engineer trainee or otherwise. That video is a link to the moron bible of hoax claims

1. No stars in photographs. Nor should there be. Look it up.

2. They acted odd in the press conference. They'd been in solitary for 3 weeks including a week of intensive debriefing. They weren't media celebrities. Pathetic claim. It's a waste of time me putting up a video showing loads of banter and humour.

3. He claims the same scenery. Addresses directly in this video....


4. Armstrong wouldn't swear on the bible. No surprise. The arsehole who had been stalking him was a dishonest twat. Cernan, Bean and Mitchell DID swear on it. Shit argument.

5. Shadows wrong. I can't be bothered. A moronic claim debunked to death. On the picture he uses, the lines of angle converge in the sky at exactly where the sun would be

Get a clue.
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Old 12-02-2018, 05:06 AM   #762
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I have heard all sorts of contradictory theories about this and am still at a loss to know which is true and which is false. Is there a video that definitely states one way or the other conclusively on you tube for example?
The problem is there's just too much evidence ...it makes your head spin....

Have a look at that Norwegian video I posted ..... near the end they make a mock up of the lunar landscape and go through very carefully the angles of the shadows ....

The skeptical guy from the TV channel is gob smacked and comes away believing Apollo was hoaxed ...

Study just this one piece of evidence carefully ... Just this one thing proves those photos were not taken on the moon .
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Old 12-02-2018, 06:56 AM   #763
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The problem is there's just too much evidence ...it makes your head spin....
There is no evidence that stands up to scrutiny. If your head spins, you must be on one of your moronic flying saucers invented by the Nazis

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Have a look at that Norwegian video I posted ..... near the end they make a mock up of the lunar landscape and go through very carefully the angles of the shadows ....
They "go through" the angles from a 2d picture. Totally debunked by this Mythbusters episode start at 2.30 ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wym04J_3Ls0



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The skeptical guy from the TV channel is gob smacked and comes away believing Apollo was hoaxed ...
What? You mean there are other easily led fools ready to be convinced without expert assessment?? Never

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Study just this one piece of evidence carefully ... Just this one thing proves those photos were not taken on the moon .
You didn't study it carefully. You got some biased yooootubbers to do it. Ones who want to get hits on their video from cranks like you!



Well done, you just proved how shit you are at assessing basic, basic information.
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Old 12-02-2018, 06:58 AM   #764
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Everyone can see what Oz ALWAYS does. He totally ignores the debunks and comes back with more idiotic claims.

See this? It must be fake, 'cos da shadows are wrong.....



This cannot be real....



Or this....





@OZ with howls of derision....

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Everyone can see what Oz ALWAYS does. He totally ignores the debunks and comes back with more idiotic claims.

See this? It must be fake, 'cos da shadows are wrong.....



This cannot be real....



Or this....





@OZ with howls of derision....

Couldn't possibly be a Photoshop job. Could it ?.
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:38 AM   #766
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Doubt its photoshop they how would that work back then?

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The only photo that needs explaining of those posted by tg is the one with the posts ... the other photos have no clear , sharp shadows that I can see ...

In the photo of the 9 posts , you can see by the shadow of the guy's head taking the picture , he's very close to the posts . Post number one is about 45 degrees left , post number 9 about 15 degrees right of the camera ,he has a wide angle lens which will give noticeable different angles for the shadows ... Notice also the shadows of the posts , if projected forward will converge at a point perhaps 20 meters in the distance , this is the optical effect expected.

This is not the case in the apollo snaps . none of the shadows converge , and the lighting is from the side , no lens effect can explain this.

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The only photo that needs explaining of those posted by tg is the one with the posts ... the other photos don't seem to have shadows that I can see ...

In the photo of the 9 posts , you can see by the shadow of the guy's head taking the picture , he's very close to the posts . Post number one is about 45 degrees left , post number 9 about 15 degrees right ,he has a wide angle lens which will give noticeable different angles for the shadows ... Notice also the shadows of the posts , if projected forward will converge at a point perhaps 10 meters in the distance , this is the optical effect expected.

This is not the case in the apollo snaps . none of the shadows converge , and the lighting is from the side , no lens effect can explain this.
Go away sad person. This stuff about shadows in Apollo moon pictures is entry level stupidity. It doesn't surprise me that even something so basic as this confuses you. Your ignorant claims about the "snaps" have been debunked for decades.Those pictures all show natural incidences of converging shadows on Earth.
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There is no evidence that stands up to scrutiny. If your head spins, you must be on one of your moronic flying saucers invented by the Nazis



They "go through" the angles from a 2d picture. Totally debunked by this Mythbusters episode start at 2.30 ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wym04J_3Ls0





What? You mean there are other easily led fools ready to be convinced without expert assessment?? Never



You didn't study it carefully. You got some biased yooootubbers to do it. Ones who want to get hits on their video from cranks like you!



Well done, you just proved how shit you are at assessing basic, basic information.

Notice the oztroll doesn't answer anything that shows how stupid his claims are.
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The only photo that needs explaining of those posted by tg is the one with the posts ... the other photos have no clear , sharp shadows that I can see ...

In the photo of the 9 posts , you can see by the shadow of the guy's head taking the picture , he's very close to the posts . Post number one is about 45 degrees left , post number 9 about 15 degrees right of the camera ,he has a wide angle lens which will give noticeable different angles for the shadows ... Notice also the shadows of the posts , if projected forward will converge at a point perhaps 20 meters in the distance , this is the optical effect expected.

This is not the case in the apollo snaps . none of the shadows converge , and the lighting is from the side , no lens effect can explain this.
Yes they can, but they cant explain squares in the darkness.
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.....(Apollo deniers) Totally debunked by this Mythbusters episode start at 2.30 ....
LOL ...Sure ... there's also a mythbusters episode where they show 9/11 happened just like the government said too ....

But then you too believe the official story of 9/11 , don't you.... or you say you do.
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LOL ...Sure ... there's also a mythbusters episode where they show 9/11 happened just like the government said too ....

But then you too believe the official story of 9/11 , don't you.... or you say you do.
Did the oztroll really play the ad hominem game? Why yes he did!

Listen you irritant, address the evidence presented, do try not to drag this useless thread into yet another cul-de-sac

Shadows change from terrain as per the pathetic claim You made. Mythbusters debunked that .....you fail as always.
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Yes they can, but they cant explain squares in the darkness.
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Squares that don't exist on full HD copies of the photographs!

But you want an explanation....avoid yet another video....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GV1nBkWR-Q
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Nasa are going to the moon!!! But wait, I thought the technology for this had been destroyed??? I thought it wasn't possible or feasible to go "back" to the moon?

NASA are hilarious really.

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Nasa are going to the moon!!! But wait, I thought the technology for this had been destroyed??? I thought it wasn't possible or feasible to go "back" to the moon?

NASA are hilarious really.


yes,no need to check out and back up electric universe theory and for once steer the sciences in the right direction......
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Nasa are going to the moon!!! But wait, I thought the technology for this had been destroyed??? I thought it wasn't possible or feasible to go "back" to the moon?

NASA are hilarious really.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't
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Damned if they do, damned if they don't
The point isn't about the rightness or otherwise of going to the moon, the point is just over a year ago, NASA astronaut Don Petit claimed we couldn't go back to the moon because "we destroyed that technology"....WTF does that even mean anyway?????)..... Now a year later we are going to the moon!!

What changed in a year? Don claims it would be a "painful process" to rebuild that tech, so what happened?

Someone is being economical with the truth.

In the case of NASA let's just call them damned.

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The point isn't about the rightness or otherwise of going to the moon, the point is just over a year ago, NASA astronaut Don Petit claimed we couldn't go back to the moon because "we destroyed that technology"....WTF does that even mean anyway?????)..... Now a year later we are going to the moon!!
He should have described it better, because wily old hoax nuts hyper ventilate when they hear it

Seriously dude, the Apollo architecture cannot be reused, it's dated and not up to modern safety standards. It's also not fit for purpose. Before you start waving those arms around and hyper ventilating again, the new goals are longer stays and more launches. The consequence is that they will need to go through denser regions of the Van Allen belts due to launch window constraints.

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Nothing. Adapting old tech makes no sense at all. Better to redesign from scratch using it as a base model.

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Nah. Someone is clueless about spacecraft design and the way it has evolved .

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I'm sure they are dead worried about hoax nuts making lots of noise.
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I'm sure they are dead worried about hoax nuts making lots of noise.
Do know the entire budget of NASA since its inception following operation 'paperclip' to presently?
Do you know who NASA answer to?
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