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Default Victims true story of the Evil Freemasons

SECOND FAMILY UK (We are all victims of Freemasonry) No 20.... 2007 Here is a tiny fraction of Joe Stirling’s Story www.secondfamily-uk.com

301 - I rented a unit (on a shoestring) so that I could teach building trades. One of the first bookings was a middle class person who was linked to the FMs via a riding school. After investigation, this person wanted to bring a friend (unknown to me, this person was a health & safety officer) I would have been closed down that week as I didn’t have the funds to set it all up properly, which the Masons knew. I called this person to cancel the booking (due to imaginary problems). I can’t imagine them clearing drains.

302 - This man X is a FM coordinator of psychological persecution and FM theatre. This criminal FM actually believes he is a good respectable member of the community, a man with credibility. He is even in a Residents Association (affluent area). This man and his accomplices are responsible for pure evil, they even used their young children to participate. Lot’s more.

303 - Freemason’s Theatre. Yes, that’s right, this evil actually stages real life events that would look normal to the untrained eye. They are in fact stealthily persecuting a chosen victim and only the target and the masons know what is happening. SF can blow you away with evidence. Masons are the ultimate criminal cowards. Lots more

304 - To any person or Mason who disputes any part of this story. I will sit and talk to any camera. I will take any lie detector test or even the truth drug (even though it has serious side effects) along side any of my enquirers/perpetrators. Come on Masons.

305 - This guy attacked me with a pool que in a London pub for no reason. He kept lifting the black ball (Masonic symbol) and threw it at me twice. I believe this to be another FM set up as it was unprovoked. It was in the Red Lion pub (the Lion is a Masonic symbol). I did not know about Freemasonry at this time, but research brings out lots of truths.

306 - FMs mostly wear skipcaps (baseball style cap) especially when they are out persecuting a victim. This is also a way for them to recognise each other. It is also a disguise and they will swap caps. They will wear them with dark glasses even on cloudy days. When you see old guys wearing them, it’s not because they are being fashionable. Investigate further by the skipcap, his car reg, his house number, his associates, pub/club/garage he uses, etc. Also engagements, weddings and esp. funerals. Lots more.

307 - One summers evening, I was out in a field with my dog (running free) Our dog is a trained family pet, not a trained guard dog. While I was talking on the mobile, an aggressive dog came charging to our dog and immediately after that another dog (Pit Bull Terrier) came to join in. Fortunately they all started to play. This was a FM set - up. The Pit Bull did not have a collar on, so nobody could stop it if their plan worked. This was FM theatre. More.

308 - Here is another FM dog incident. I had just taken the lead off our dog in a safe place. Then this Irish Wolfhound came charging towards us. It was really aggressive and not the sort of dog you would let near other dogs. Nobody would let that dog off it’s lead. Luckily our dog was not phased and returned the aggression to sort it out. The guy came to get his dog and I had a go at him. I also recognised him, but he said we hadn’t met before (Oh, yes we definitely did).

309 - Because of the constant persecution I used to change my vehicle every six months to try to stay ahead of my persecutors. I also changed my appearance regularly. I had spent many years trying to fight an invisible enemy. I thought I had upset a rich family. SF member asked me if I thought I was part of an experiment ? Thinking back, yes, very possible. I did not know about the evil Masons at that time. FMs are always defending the indefensible. We keep getting told there are good Masons out there. Please stop the bullshit that Freemasonry is a good charitable fraternity of men. It’s no less than a criminal organisation. (Read on)

310 - I am presenting you with a tiny part of my story. Now you have to ask the good journalist why they don’t come and talk to me or this victims group. We have sent this (and lots of other items to them) to every MP and Newspaper in the UK. You don’t have to be very clever to realise that they ALL know about it or are part of it. We, the people are SICK TO DEATH of the Lies, Injustice and Corruption. Freemasonry is out of control. It has to stop or no future for the planet and it’s contents. (seriously)

311 - Because I kept changing my vehicles, appearance and movements. The FMs would always send somebody that knew me and like a trusting ignorant fool, I used to say hello and have a chat thinking this was a chance encounter. I did not know this is how the evil FMs work. Dozens of incidents, all documented. Fact... Freemasonry infects everything it comes into contact with.

312 - The FMs have been bullying and persecuting me for decades. They have destroyed everything that I ever started, including friendships, businesses and any credibility. Like most FM victims, I don’t know why I’m on this Freemasons Register Of Revenge

(SF member says it’s called Point Of Polaris). Or I’m bait for the FM training (and to show members what will happen to them if) Anyway, they have made it clear that I am on it for life. Evil FMs leave you with two choices, you can hide behind the sofa and they will get you or you can fight back (as SF does) and they will still get you. So, fight we victims must. I must add that Second Family are very, very satisfied with our fight back (with lots more to come), as you will read. Second Family will do everything we can to expose this LEGAL gang of criminals. They are shafting ignorant victims every day in their courts by their judiciary.

313 - Our family managed to do a house exchange from London to Milngavie (pronounced Millguy) near Glasgow in 1990. I had no idea it should have been called Masonic Millguy as I was in the middle of the stew that the crooked evil FMs were cooking. This is an affluent area and if the law was applied that criminals should have their assets seized, this place would be a ghost town.

314 - One dark damp evening, I was working on my vehicle and this stranger comes over to me. He was very paranoid and started to make out he had mental health problems and came aggressively towards me with his hand inside his coat. He only stopped because I had a hammer in my hand and told him to eff off. He knew I was no mug and staggered away, obviously on drugs. This was a serious dangerous situation. This guy meant business, I now know it was a FM set-up and can prove it. Local FMs involved. This is a rural location and a low crime area. Don’t forget the Mason’s all seeing eye in Masonic Millguy. Lots more.

315 - I am a veteran victim of the Masons. I am part of a victim’s group (SF). We are rapidly learning about Masonic practices and symbols. We know that the obelisk is an Illuminati/Masonic symbol (check online). They have put one right outside the local Masonic Lodge (house of corruption) in Masonic Millguy. Now, the locals (non-Masons) were probably told it was a monument to the West Highland Way (a 100 mile walk/hike). Pull the other trouser leg up. Wait till the locals find out the truth.

316 - Driving on a journey with my wife and young kids. We were looking forward to our holiday when our car went out of control. We shot across other traffic at more than 60 MPH and nearly got hit by a juggernaut before coming to a stop. Definite foul play. Bolts loose, etc. Similar stories (vehicle problems) like this is common within the group. Lot’s more

317 - We’re a dog family and I had no idea that some dog walkers that are talking to me are two people. One is the person they used to be and the one thats left is working for the Masons. Pure evil. They are so over - friendly and nice. You don’t notice that they are getting nosy and asking inappropriate questions. (Not just dog -walkers, they could be anywhere) They prefer to listen. They are also checking your mood to see if their persecution is working (or use the information to persecute you further) All this is reported back to the houses of corruption (the Masonic Lodges) Just wait till you read the documentation on theses freaks.

318 - Another holiday for our family. We only got the first two hours away and the car broke down. When we got towed home (and the holiday totally ruined) One of our friends spotted "grinding paste" ? I didn’t know much about mechanics then or FMs. But I have since found out it’s deliberate sabotage used frequently by FMs and it seizes the engine. The only reason they get away with it is because the general public don’t know about Masons. Never be intimidated by these FM losers. Every dog has his day.

319 - We put in to buy our council house and our mortgage advice agent leaned on us heavily to sign on the line before our insurance and medical records came through. My wife said no chance, she knew we would have lost everything. Anyway, things were not right and we decided to pull out of buying (thank you god) the house. I found out this agent is a Mason, he is still persecuting me. These FM freaks just love to rub salt in. All documented beautifully. (Become your own detective)

320 - Social Work/NHS Masons. My son was diagnosed as having Aspergers Syndrome (Autism). He was the first person in Scotland to be diagnosed. This was a mega-problem as they did not have a pigeon hole (placement) to put him in. This takes us to another huge story on the Masons within Social Work and the NHS. It also exposes how the Mason’s charities work and more.

321 - We the people are SICK TO DEATH of the Lies, Injustice and Corruption. See my story (part 13) on how to stop the Secret Societies from destroying our society. If you are a Mason, you have been conned and used. All FM servants are expendable.A Mason is a person who knowingly destroys peoples lives for self gain. Masons should top being selfish fools/tools for The Illuminati/Bankers/Oil Barons/ World’s Richest Families. You are helping them to control the future. We are all victims of FMry.

322 - Me and my family seriously need protection immediately. I have written to the Masons within Strathclyde Police HQ and SOCA for protection. Their reply was comical and insulting. To us victims, this makes it very clear that Freemasonry is a criminal organisation. Fact.... Masonic Law is above the law. Every Police Station in the UK is a Masonic Lodge.

323 - I’ve been FM watched and persecuted all of my life. Sometimes I think I’m just a rat in the Lab, or I’m bait for FM training (to let Masons know what will happen if ?) We will start to give you other members stories when you have digested this one. The answer.... Join SF or GOODEEZ, it’s run by genuine victims, life is simple, stop the masons and the elite will not have an army of eyes and ears that keeps their crooked empire in control. Get rid of the secret societies and give us transparency. Give us a public register of members (not a list of any other group, we do not know any other criminal network as powerful as the Freemasons).

324 witheld 325 - I really have put my life on the line for this story (through no fault of my own) but I would genuinely say sorry to those closet to me for the danger and emotions that I have put them through. This problem won’t go away, I have to get this story out as they have definitely got to me. I recently attempted suicide. Made me much stronger. FMs can get into your property in minutes, this is common knowledge and has happened to me on many occasions. They don’t steal, they just play psychological games or the electrical items just don’t work anymore. lots of victims evidence. If you have a story, try not to waste valuable time with low level masons, just concentrate on the bigger picture and gather evidence. Document your case and have proof. If it’s verbal, it didn’t happen. The FMs will use any company utility vehicle like British Gas, BT, emergency services etc as an invisible tool to watch or harass targets. Lets get rid of these Masonic Cuckoos. Repeat, get rid of the Masonic Cuckoos. Repeat, get rid of

326 - Some postings you should search for online. "Fighting The Masons For Our FR33DOM" or "Freemasonry Is A Criminal Organisation" or "Freemasons Are The Ultimate Cowards" or "Joe Stirling" or "VOACS" and follow your journey to the truth.

www.secondfamily-uk.com www.ljpr.info www.sacl.info www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm www.surveillanceissues.com

Try not to waste time online, get focused now. Please feel free to copy this story/information to all. Your future depends on it

327 - There’s a lot of Scots in the English parliament. Haven’t you guys sussed it out yet ? Scotland is totally FM infested and they are the FM place-men. Everyone should question authority to ask if any of them are a Masons (this is your right, thats why you pay tax) whether barrister, prime minister, police, military, lawyer, social work, NHS, roadsweeper, etc, all jobs for the boys and no proper qualifications. Do not believe the crap in the Media. Even their journalists can’t come out with the truth otherwise the FMs will pick on them. That’s why you never read anything bad about the evil FMs. I don’t believe in boundaries, all elite invented.

328 - I spent fifteen years taking my two sons (now aged 27 and 30) fishing and camping. We used to take of their pals. Some are FMs (didn’t know at that time). I kept diaries. Our house had the best New Year parties and brilliant outdoor weekends. Treated them like our own, you should see the photo’s/videos. Didn’t know about the ulterior motives. We’re working on stories and as we get stronger as a group, we get more results. Modern technology is excellent and is as good for us as it is for the Masons.

329 - We all seem to think people care, nobody cares. That’s why we are in this mess together. YOU had better start to care about what’s happening, or we all go down together. I love the great outdoors and I seriously can’t tell the difference between the sheep and the people. FMs are above the law. How come the FMs have a phone number to ring if they get into trouble? Not for sheople.

330 - The Masons within the Police Force are the purveyors of extreme evil. They can and do control all of our communications, our emails, our phones and our snail-mail (royal mail). I have done dozens of tests to confirm this practice. I must have been the poorest emergency plumber (registered with the IPHE and good at my job) in the UK. I was spending £8k with Sellow Pages (FM company) and the phones were strangely quiet. I can prove that the FMs controlled 90% of my jobs and enquiries. The FMs within the authorities can divert your calls to anonymous answerphones (using your answerphone message) or the call will just ring out, even though your answerphone was on (check online for Malcolm Kennedy). My house is bugged, my car, van is bugged. They even track me while I am out with my dog, they use GPS on my dogs microchip (dozens of tests done). I wrote to Strathclyde Police HQ to ask if they had been tracing me or my families calls/mobiles/landline/vehicles/electronic images, etc. They wrote back to say they could not confirm or deny ? I am not a criminal or a terrorist. But I am a victim of a legal gang called The Criminal Freemasons. I can go nowhere without their company, test me, anytime. Don’t worry they will not hurt you, the last thing Freemasonry needs is more negative press. But, they will try a car accident ? or beware of the NHS. This is Freemasons territory.

331 - Freemasons will ostracise (isolate) you. They were your pretend friend anyway. They do it to their victims and other Masons who have left this bunch of crooks. They make you a prisoner in your own home, just like me. We badly need protection.

332 - We have affiliated our group to some similar groups in the USA. Unfortunately the Americans think it’s all sorts of agencies and government departments thats doing the persecution. Yes, they’re right, but it’s the Masons within these departments. A lot of Americans have been hypnotised into thinking the FMs are good. That’s what evil hides behind, "good". To understand Freemasonry you have to understand there is the Outer Organisation (which is perceived to be good) and the Inner Organisation which is undiluted evil. Lower Masons believe there is nothing above the Third Degree Masons. Checkout online for Bill Schnoebelen, he’s an American/Canadian ex - Mason who reached the 90th degree. Also checkout Mike Restivo’s story (USA).

333 - I have an idea. Let’s start a secret society called "GOODEEZ" and work just like the Masons. The only difference is that GOODEEZ is transparent and has no ulterior motives. It will be run by victims of this corrupt society so that we can use our expertise to stop any wrong doing. We will add this group to our already established Second Family victims group. It’s free.

Anyone want to join/help/support us ? Or you can look back in history when you had your last chance of FR33DOM. (serious)

334 - We at SF have already revealed the FMs favourite/symbolic numbers (online) that they use in their Vehicle reg’s, phone numbers and house numbers. We kinda wondered how many crooked FMs have changed their numbers since this expose ?

335 - I recently attemped suicide. My statement "Not because of family domestics/paranoia/depression or cry for help" I done it because I know the truth and nobody was listening. I also know that if nobody listens then there is no one to help. I’m stuck with this FM persecution for life (wish I knew who or why these FM freaks put me on their revenge register). Anyway, I decided to try to bring a bit of FM exposure by tying the knife to two balloons. I knew the balloons would get carried away with the tide (no evidence)and they would find my body with a slit throat. The Doctor said I was half a centimeter away from my aorta. Just to rub salt into my wound, we were stopped by the FM Police on the way back from the hospital. Evil bastard gave me a half smile. Do you think the suicide and blame was wrong ? I am already risking my life (so are other activists, some lost) for the ignorant masses.

336 - This is October 2007 and I’m still getting 24/7 FM persecution, I hope to live long enough to get this massive story out. Society needs this story badly. You can bring down Freemasonry just by investigating this and other victims stories. I will not write about the things I can’t prove. Ideally, it would be better to try these crooks in front of an independent court/audience. (+cameras)

337 - Charity. Here’s another Freemason’s Myth. Their Masonic media say they give lots to charity ???? Yes, to Masonic charities. It is a self perpetuating money spinner. You see, the Illuminati own the Media and everything you see, read or hear comes from their point of view. So, when they tell you they are a wonderful charitable fraternity of men (Yes mate, was that a rasperry or flatulence ? still stinks). Have you got it yet ? Incidentally, I’m entitled to feel angry, 35 years of persecution and still counting.

When is the penny going to drop for you ? You just don’t get it, do you ? Your comfort zone cannot last. You have to be an idiot to think this problem will go away. You’d better start fighting today or sit and wait for the remote controlled planes, too late ? 9/11

337 - Local guy in professional job meets up with me (off duty ?) and befriends me. I had recocnised him as a FM perp. This is what the FMs do, they try to make out everything is normal. We walked the dogs up to where he hadn’t been since he was a kid. You wouldn’t have a clue that this evil was wanting close to my conversation and feelings so that he could run back to the lodge. This guy also watched some of his accomplices who double park on a bend (stick with me) to dish out more FM persecution.

This person would use the works vehicle and fellow Masons to further psychologically persecute me. I’d love to ask this freak about how confident he was, knowing his pretend brothers were there to be his witness, should anything go wrong. More

338 - Another young FM terrorist within the community. Sent to persecute me in summer 200? Got all the info here, dates times reg’s and description or was it a photo? Needs further investigation, he’s young and will spend a lifetime doing the same to FM victims. Remember that when we produce the evidence, we don’t have to prove nothing, we just locate and film/follow him doing his persecution to other FM victims. Also track his future missions/lodge/accomplices/coordinator, etc. (Petrie & Co, See part 11)

339 - Evil FM professional called me. Price was quoted and agreed. A good job done and this guy just refused to pay me. I could not afford to sue him. Another FM lawyer confident of the crooked gang behind him. These bastards abuse their power willy nilly.

340 - We are all over the internet asking for the top Masons to come forward to talk to us in front of live cameras and an independent audience. We contacted UGLE (United Grand Lodge Of England) GLOS (Grand Lodge Of Scotland) and the top Masons at Rosslyn Chapel, without reply ? This offer is still available. Are there any good Masons out there ? Hello ?

341 - Guy calls me and said his boss (MP) likes what I have put online and could I come to Manchester to pick up some cash for our victims group ? He said I could recognise him in a denim jacket with a white carnation on the lapel. So I checked online for "Masonic white carnation" and it came up as to be worn only in the lodge. I called him back to say I didn’t want Masonic egg on my face. He denied it and started getting a bit ... It’s OK Michael (that’s what he called himself) I recorded it for you. Lot’s more

342 - I recently found out my best mate of 35 years is an evil Mason (another horrible story). That got me right in the pit of the gut.

343 - I meet a guy who runs an injustice group who I think is a fellow victim. So like a fool I trust this guy and find out some months later he was a Mason and so was the injustice group This is how the Masons operate, to protect their plunder. Lots more

344 - My teeth were fine and no problems. I left my local dentist to register with a dentist who I thought was OK. He gave me three fillings and said I needed three more. Before I had the next three fillings done, I went straight back to my old dentist for a check up and they said everything’s fine, we’ll see you in six months ? I later found out this guy is a Crooked Freemason. He is still practicing. This evil should be investigated, there must be hundreds of his victims. Plus more being done every day.

345 - My eldest son suffers from Autism and we had a really bad time from social work and had no idea at that time about Freemasonry. These crooks played a major part in our family’s persecution. Large story of outrageous corruption. This evil uses those closest to you to persecute you. When it comes to money and following orders, Freemasonry knows no boundaries.

346 - The crooked FMs have a profile on everybody. You gave them this information through trust, ie doctors, police, councils DWP, etc. These crooks have placemen everywhere in every department you can think of. They know who to shaft and when.

347 - Dave ?effrey. This was the last person I trusted. This is pure evil. I spent two hours in my van telling this guy my story of Masonic persecution and we were both in tears. When we got out of the van, he gave me a long hug. This is a religious man who always talks about the (Big Man Upstairs) referring to God who will sort this evil out. Guess what, this bastard turned out to be a Freemason/Round Table member. Everything I told him went straight back to the lodge. I can still hear the Masons laughing.

349 - We lived in a Masonic Cul De Sac (called Watt Place, very symbolic to FMs) and can tell you hundreds of stories with back up (diaries +) including things stolen (this place is safe, you can leave your car doors open all the time) Also high number of slow punctures. My immediate neighbour was the brother of the top policeman in Strathclyde, both FMs. The Masons know when your house is empty, they have eyes n’ ears everywhere and they track our car and mobile phones (each of our phones). I can now clarify hundreds of incidents. I couldn’t understand how I got FM company as soon as I took my dogs out. (Peregrine Joe)

350 - Remember Gollum in (Lord Of The Rings) where he covers his ears and says "not listening, not listening" As long as the public keep covering their ears when you mention Freemasons, we’ve got no chance. Listen to us as a group of Masonic victims. You had better waken up, this will not go away and it’s going to get seriously worse. The Masons are the brainwashed foot-soldiers for The Illuminati (or call them Oil Barons, Bankers or world’s richest families) they are Mason’s puppet masters and they have a plan. It’s called the New World Order (or Global Government) and these brainwashed Masons WILL follow orders. If you know a Mason and you think they are lovely, wonderul people. Just ask yourself where you think their loyalties lie ? To you, the planet or the Brotherhood ? Stop reading this now and join/help/support SF. Do something or the evil FMs win.

351 - If you do not believe me or you think any of this story is fabricated, then I don’t have a problem to speak the truth to any videocam, lie detector or even truth drug (even though the truth drug has serious side effects). I can back up everything here and with evidence. Then we will present the next Second Family victim’s story. This is a tiny, tiny fraction of my story. Read online.
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Old 15-11-2007, 05:11 PM   #2
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leave only one thread with this name.

DELETE THE REST

I agree the masons are the worst.

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wise up... why bother posting this everywhere?? only really need to post it once mate
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It's all true I can corroborate...

The only problem with that story is it focusses on fear.

You can beat them easily of you have no fear. They are cowards and they are bluffing.

If you go into fight expecting to lose then you have already lost before the guy even throws a punch, if however you go into that fight expecting to rip the opponent into tiny pieces and scatter him to the four winds... then half the victory is won before you even land a punch.

You have to tell your friends to feel powerful. They have to feel the power within them. The masonic bullying follows rules, they can only really bully you if you are receptive to it and spiritually insecure.

The entrance to your world can be closed. Become More then they. They are not equal to you, they are not worthy to even look into your eyes.

I used to get bullied but these days they keep well away and if and when I do see one, I can make them lose their minds quite easily. More often though they avoid eye contact with me at all costs because I can do their dead soul minds serious damage.

Their puppets on a string.. start pulling their strings yourself.

Thanks for posting that secondfamily...

It's good it know I'm not the only one who spouts this incredible and far-out stuff.

PS I love this idea:

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333 - I have an idea. Let’s start a secret society called "GOODEEZ" and work just like the Masons. The only difference is that GOODEEZ is transparent and has no ulterior motives. It will be run by victims of this corrupt society so that we can use our expertise to stop any wrong doing. We will add this group to our already established Second Family victims group. It’s free.

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As a new forum project I suggest we declare open war on the masons and actively concentrate on and visualise their total destruction, on an individual and organisational level.

Anyone got any serious psychic power out there... fancy a rumble?

I know I do... Why are we letting these fucks get away with it... lets give 'em a taste of the new medicine.

Right now I'm priming up a 1000 megaton nuclear fucking mind bomb that I am just itching to plant in those fuckers' stinking little hive.....

My finger's on the button... anyone with me?

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You fucking right I'm right here. I read this story and were these peoples only hope.

I'll help to build the psychic BOMB.

let's do this one out of pure hate shall we?

This is something I'm ready for.

Describe the target... Listen, let's be kind of specific... so we can see results.

I know we can do this. It's called RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION! IT'S GOD'S ANGER> we are the medium.

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Lets Be The Message!

Well maybe you're not so serious... I'm going after Bush's health. He made his bed.

I want to do something where I can see results. After it works and he gets ill it's not as if they will trace it to me.

But you'll suspect. Then we can do others, announcing in advance (believe) and soon they'll suspect... Then they'll know.

Pm me when you have a specific target otherwise I'm on Bush till then.

I'll stop when he gets coverage for being ill. (it's an experiment and not yet an extermination plan)


Authorities, remember, to you this is make believe. To you I'm not well. To you it's not possible what I speak.

Illuminati, know, to me all things are possible.


OK first Bush for going along. For being a mouthpiece for the bad guys. For affecting my life with your evil.

PRAY THIS WORKS. IF IT DOES< WE'LL TRY THREE OTHER THINGS. IF THEY WORK, WE'LL START A TRAINING COURSE.

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You fucking right I'm right here. I read this story and were these peoples only hope.

I'll help to build the psychic BOMB.

let's do this one out of pure hate shall we?

This is something I'm ready for.

Describe the target... Listen, let's be kind of specific... so we can see results.

I know we can do this. It's called RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION! IT'S GOD'S ANGER> we are the medium.

That's the ticket.







Start by visualising the destruction of their symbols.
Like smashing up the all seeing eye of their control pyramid and letting the real power and authority take control. The power of good/God.

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I'm all over it. Im even angry that this made me angry...

I'm still angry enough to crush a skull from 322 thousand miles away.
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Old 15-11-2007, 07:56 PM   #10
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That's the ticket.







Start by visualising the destruction of their symbols.
Like smashing up the all seeing eye of their control pyramid and letting the real power and authority take control. The power of good/God.
I know these secretive people. They hold power, but not over anything real.
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I'm going to focus on getting them into the news and from there into a really tight spot they won't be able to wriggle from. The beginning of the end for them.


Something along the lines of the lower order members not being able to be members anymore because of not wanting to associate.


Something big that we don't even know. Intention. A SCANDAL!

A SCANDAL EXPOSED IN THE NATIONAL MEDIA inadvertently at first... then once out, too interesting to be taken off air, and too noticeable if they do.

this is my intention. And this is it for the day. I'll just do this till I sleep in as many ways as come to me. and I'll post here first when I wake.

How do you like that... .

Remember this is all for fun... because it's fun to find new and creative ways to fight an enemy. And fun or no fun... this is real. It's the war in heaven. It just got a new soldier.

whoo haa! master chief!

I'm going to go to bed reading more from your site

I'll also pray about this whole thing.

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Old 15-11-2007, 09:27 PM   #12
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Great stuff mate....

Lookfar said she was going to move the Brand New Forum Experiment thread to the General forum. It'd be cool if you could post to that to give it a bit more WHOOARRR! if you know what I mean....

I'm gonna echo your thoughts on what you want to manifest... it'd be cool to imagine the same manifestation coming from at least two different directions... kinda like wave reinforcement, harmonic resonance and all that. A very powerful force in nature and thoughts ARE waves.
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333 - I have an idea. Let’s start a secret society called "GOODEEZ" and work just like the Masons. The only difference is that GOODEEZ is transparent and has no ulterior motives. It will be run by victims of this corrupt society so that we can use our expertise to stop any wrong doing. We will add this group to our already established Second Family victims group. It’s free.
Hi secondfamilyuk,

Thats amazing the number 333 is a female vibration number and the female vibration is the very vibration that the Freemasons are deliberately suppressing in this dimension to throw us and the earth out of balance and harmony......

in vibration like attracts like so thoughts, ideas, and numbers of a similar vibration frequency attract one another...... how appropriate it is then that the number vibration 333 attached itself to this idea of yours which is the very opposite to what the Freemasons stand for and one which they would utterly detest......

The Freemason power is built upon the male vibration 666 and they constantly suppress the female vibration 333 because the female vibration balances out the male vibration to create the vibration of 999 which is the balancing vibration frequency that runs through the 3rd dimension of duality......

The high level freemasons understand how the 3rd dimension of duality works and they are manipulating the vibration frequencies of the 3rd dimension to cut us off from a higher conscious wave length, when we are cut off from a higher conscious wave length we are very easy to control and manipulate.....

Great idea thanks for posting........

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there is a forum intention thread inspired by this thread which is attempting to sling psychic hatred at the freemason base of world control. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14115
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This is disgusting. I've also found out there's a masonic lodge/temple near where i live!
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there is a forum intention thread inspired by this thread which is attempting to sling psychic hatred at the freemason base of world control. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14115
i'm all for this guys but don't sling hatred at my OH PLEEEASE lol he's a good'un trying to fight from within!!!!!
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SECOND FAMILY UK (We are all victims of Freemasonry) No 20.... 2007 Here is a tiny fraction of Joe Stirling’s Story www.secondfamily-uk.com

301 - I rented a unit (on a shoestring) so that I could teach building trades. One of the first bookings was a middle class person who was linked to the FMs via a riding school. After investigation, this person wanted to bring a friend (unknown to me, this person was a health & safety officer) I would have been closed down that week as I didn’t have the funds to set it all up properly, which the Masons knew. I called this person to cancel the booking (due to imaginary problems). I can’t imagine them clearing drains.

302 - This man X is a FM coordinator of psychological persecution and FM theatre. This criminal FM actually believes he is a good respectable member of the community, a man with credibility. He is even in a Residents Association (affluent area). This man and his accomplices are responsible for pure evil, they even used their young children to participate. Lot’s more.

303 - Freemason’s Theatre. Yes, that’s right, this evil actually stages real life events that would look normal to the untrained eye. They are in fact stealthily persecuting a chosen victim and only the target and the masons know what is happening. SF can blow you away with evidence. Masons are the ultimate criminal cowards. Lots more

304 - To any person or Mason who disputes any part of this story. I will sit and talk to any camera. I will take any lie detector test or even the truth drug (even though it has serious side effects) along side any of my enquirers/perpetrators. Come on Masons.

305 - This guy attacked me with a pool que in a London pub for no reason. He kept lifting the black ball (Masonic symbol) and threw it at me twice. I believe this to be another FM set up as it was unprovoked. It was in the Red Lion pub (the Lion is a Masonic symbol). I did not know about Freemasonry at this time, but research brings out lots of truths.

306 - FMs mostly wear skipcaps (baseball style cap) especially when they are out persecuting a victim. This is also a way for them to recognise each other. It is also a disguise and they will swap caps. They will wear them with dark glasses even on cloudy days. When you see old guys wearing them, it’s not because they are being fashionable. Investigate further by the skipcap, his car reg, his house number, his associates, pub/club/garage he uses, etc. Also engagements, weddings and esp. funerals. Lots more.

307 - One summers evening, I was out in a field with my dog (running free) Our dog is a trained family pet, not a trained guard dog. While I was talking on the mobile, an aggressive dog came charging to our dog and immediately after that another dog (Pit Bull Terrier) came to join in. Fortunately they all started to play. This was a FM set - up. The Pit Bull did not have a collar on, so nobody could stop it if their plan worked. This was FM theatre. More.

308 - Here is another FM dog incident. I had just taken the lead off our dog in a safe place. Then this Irish Wolfhound came charging towards us. It was really aggressive and not the sort of dog you would let near other dogs. Nobody would let that dog off it’s lead. Luckily our dog was not phased and returned the aggression to sort it out. The guy came to get his dog and I had a go at him. I also recognised him, but he said we hadn’t met before (Oh, yes we definitely did).

309 - Because of the constant persecution I used to change my vehicle every six months to try to stay ahead of my persecutors. I also changed my appearance regularly. I had spent many years trying to fight an invisible enemy. I thought I had upset a rich family. SF member asked me if I thought I was part of an experiment ? Thinking back, yes, very possible. I did not know about the evil Masons at that time. FMs are always defending the indefensible. We keep getting told there are good Masons out there. Please stop the bullshit that Freemasonry is a good charitable fraternity of men. It’s no less than a criminal organisation. (Read on)

310 - I am presenting you with a tiny part of my story. Now you have to ask the good journalist why they don’t come and talk to me or this victims group. We have sent this (and lots of other items to them) to every MP and Newspaper in the UK. You don’t have to be very clever to realise that they ALL know about it or are part of it. We, the people are SICK TO DEATH of the Lies, Injustice and Corruption. Freemasonry is out of control. It has to stop or no future for the planet and it’s contents. (seriously)

311 - Because I kept changing my vehicles, appearance and movements. The FMs would always send somebody that knew me and like a trusting ignorant fool, I used to say hello and have a chat thinking this was a chance encounter. I did not know this is how the evil FMs work. Dozens of incidents, all documented. Fact... Freemasonry infects everything it comes into contact with.

312 - The FMs have been bullying and persecuting me for decades. They have destroyed everything that I ever started, including friendships, businesses and any credibility. Like most FM victims, I don’t know why I’m on this Freemasons Register Of Revenge

(SF member says it’s called Point Of Polaris). Or I’m bait for the FM training (and to show members what will happen to them if) Anyway, they have made it clear that I am on it for life. Evil FMs leave you with two choices, you can hide behind the sofa and they will get you or you can fight back (as SF does) and they will still get you. So, fight we victims must. I must add that Second Family are very, very satisfied with our fight back (with lots more to come), as you will read. Second Family will do everything we can to expose this LEGAL gang of criminals. They are shafting ignorant victims every day in their courts by their judiciary.

313 - Our family managed to do a house exchange from London to Milngavie (pronounced Millguy) near Glasgow in 1990. I had no idea it should have been called Masonic Millguy as I was in the middle of the stew that the crooked evil FMs were cooking. This is an affluent area and if the law was applied that criminals should have their assets seized, this place would be a ghost town.

314 - One dark damp evening, I was working on my vehicle and this stranger comes over to me. He was very paranoid and started to make out he had mental health problems and came aggressively towards me with his hand inside his coat. He only stopped because I had a hammer in my hand and told him to eff off. He knew I was no mug and staggered away, obviously on drugs. This was a serious dangerous situation. This guy meant business, I now know it was a FM set-up and can prove it. Local FMs involved. This is a rural location and a low crime area. Don’t forget the Mason’s all seeing eye in Masonic Millguy. Lots more.

315 - I am a veteran victim of the Masons. I am part of a victim’s group (SF). We are rapidly learning about Masonic practices and symbols. We know that the obelisk is an Illuminati/Masonic symbol (check online). They have put one right outside the local Masonic Lodge (house of corruption) in Masonic Millguy. Now, the locals (non-Masons) were probably told it was a monument to the West Highland Way (a 100 mile walk/hike). Pull the other trouser leg up. Wait till the locals find out the truth.

316 - Driving on a journey with my wife and young kids. We were looking forward to our holiday when our car went out of control. We shot across other traffic at more than 60 MPH and nearly got hit by a juggernaut before coming to a stop. Definite foul play. Bolts loose, etc. Similar stories (vehicle problems) like this is common within the group. Lot’s more

317 - We’re a dog family and I had no idea that some dog walkers that are talking to me are two people. One is the person they used to be and the one thats left is working for the Masons. Pure evil. They are so over - friendly and nice. You don’t notice that they are getting nosy and asking inappropriate questions. (Not just dog -walkers, they could be anywhere) They prefer to listen. They are also checking your mood to see if their persecution is working (or use the information to persecute you further) All this is reported back to the houses of corruption (the Masonic Lodges) Just wait till you read the documentation on theses freaks.

318 - Another holiday for our family. We only got the first two hours away and the car broke down. When we got towed home (and the holiday totally ruined) One of our friends spotted "grinding paste" ? I didn’t know much about mechanics then or FMs. But I have since found out it’s deliberate sabotage used frequently by FMs and it seizes the engine. The only reason they get away with it is because the general public don’t know about Masons. Never be intimidated by these FM losers. Every dog has his day.

319 - We put in to buy our council house and our mortgage advice agent leaned on us heavily to sign on the line before our insurance and medical records came through. My wife said no chance, she knew we would have lost everything. Anyway, things were not right and we decided to pull out of buying (thank you god) the house. I found out this agent is a Mason, he is still persecuting me. These FM freaks just love to rub salt in. All documented beautifully. (Become your own detective)

320 - Social Work/NHS Masons. My son was diagnosed as having Aspergers Syndrome (Autism). He was the first person in Scotland to be diagnosed. This was a mega-problem as they did not have a pigeon hole (placement) to put him in. This takes us to another huge story on the Masons within Social Work and the NHS. It also exposes how the Mason’s charities work and more.

321 - We the people are SICK TO DEATH of the Lies, Injustice and Corruption. See my story (part 13) on how to stop the Secret Societies from destroying our society. If you are a Mason, you have been conned and used. All FM servants are expendable.A Mason is a person who knowingly destroys peoples lives for self gain. Masons should top being selfish fools/tools for The Illuminati/Bankers/Oil Barons/ World’s Richest Families. You are helping them to control the future. We are all victims of FMry.

322 - Me and my family seriously need protection immediately. I have written to the Masons within Strathclyde Police HQ and SOCA for protection. Their reply was comical and insulting. To us victims, this makes it very clear that Freemasonry is a criminal organisation. Fact.... Masonic Law is above the law. Every Police Station in the UK is a Masonic Lodge.

323 - I’ve been FM watched and persecuted all of my life. Sometimes I think I’m just a rat in the Lab, or I’m bait for FM training (to let Masons know what will happen if ?) We will start to give you other members stories when you have digested this one. The answer.... Join SF or GOODEEZ, it’s run by genuine victims, life is simple, stop the masons and the elite will not have an army of eyes and ears that keeps their crooked empire in control. Get rid of the secret societies and give us transparency. Give us a public register of members (not a list of any other group, we do not know any other criminal network as powerful as the Freemasons).

324 witheld 325 - I really have put my life on the line for this story (through no fault of my own) but I would genuinely say sorry to those closet to me for the danger and emotions that I have put them through. This problem won’t go away, I have to get this story out as they have definitely got to me. I recently attempted suicide. Made me much stronger. FMs can get into your property in minutes, this is common knowledge and has happened to me on many occasions. They don’t steal, they just play psychological games or the electrical items just don’t work anymore. lots of victims evidence. If you have a story, try not to waste valuable time with low level masons, just concentrate on the bigger picture and gather evidence. Document your case and have proof. If it’s verbal, it didn’t happen. The FMs will use any company utility vehicle like British Gas, BT, emergency services etc as an invisible tool to watch or harass targets. Lets get rid of these Masonic Cuckoos. Repeat, get rid of the Masonic Cuckoos. Repeat, get rid of

326 - Some postings you should search for online. "Fighting The Masons For Our FR33DOM" or "Freemasonry Is A Criminal Organisation" or "Freemasons Are The Ultimate Cowards" or "Joe Stirling" or "VOACS" and follow your journey to the truth.

www.secondfamily-uk.com www.ljpr.info www.sacl.info www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm www.surveillanceissues.com

Try not to waste time online, get focused now. Please feel free to copy this story/information to all. Your future depends on it

327 - There’s a lot of Scots in the English parliament. Haven’t you guys sussed it out yet ? Scotland is totally FM infested and they are the FM place-men. Everyone should question authority to ask if any of them are a Masons (this is your right, thats why you pay tax) whether barrister, prime minister, police, military, lawyer, social work, NHS, roadsweeper, etc, all jobs for the boys and no proper qualifications. Do not believe the crap in the Media. Even their journalists can’t come out with the truth otherwise the FMs will pick on them. That’s why you never read anything bad about the evil FMs. I don’t believe in boundaries, all elite invented.

328 - I spent fifteen years taking my two sons (now aged 27 and 30) fishing and camping. We used to take of their pals. Some are FMs (didn’t know at that time). I kept diaries. Our house had the best New Year parties and brilliant outdoor weekends. Treated them like our own, you should see the photo’s/videos. Didn’t know about the ulterior motives. We’re working on stories and as we get stronger as a group, we get more results. Modern technology is excellent and is as good for us as it is for the Masons.

329 - We all seem to think people care, nobody cares. That’s why we are in this mess together. YOU had better start to care about what’s happening, or we all go down together. I love the great outdoors and I seriously can’t tell the difference between the sheep and the people. FMs are above the law. How come the FMs have a phone number to ring if they get into trouble? Not for sheople.

330 - The Masons within the Police Force are the purveyors of extreme evil. They can and do control all of our communications, our emails, our phones and our snail-mail (royal mail). I have done dozens of tests to confirm this practice. I must have been the poorest emergency plumber (registered with the IPHE and good at my job) in the UK. I was spending £8k with Sellow Pages (FM company) and the phones were strangely quiet. I can prove that the FMs controlled 90% of my jobs and enquiries. The FMs within the authorities can divert your calls to anonymous answerphones (using your answerphone message) or the call will just ring out, even though your answerphone was on (check online for Malcolm Kennedy). My house is bugged, my car, van is bugged. They even track me while I am out with my dog, they use GPS on my dogs microchip (dozens of tests done). I wrote to Strathclyde Police HQ to ask if they had been tracing me or my families calls/mobiles/landline/vehicles/electronic images, etc. They wrote back to say they could not confirm or deny ? I am not a criminal or a terrorist. But I am a victim of a legal gang called The Criminal Freemasons. I can go nowhere without their company, test me, anytime. Don’t worry they will not hurt you, the last thing Freemasonry needs is more negative press. But, they will try a car accident ? or beware of the NHS. This is Freemasons territory.

331 - Freemasons will ostracise (isolate) you. They were your pretend friend anyway. They do it to their victims and other Masons who have left this bunch of crooks. They make you a prisoner in your own home, just like me. We badly need protection.

332 - We have affiliated our group to some similar groups in the USA. Unfortunately the Americans think it’s all sorts of agencies and government departments thats doing the persecution. Yes, they’re right, but it’s the Masons within these departments. A lot of Americans have been hypnotised into thinking the FMs are good. That’s what evil hides behind, "good". To understand Freemasonry you have to understand there is the Outer Organisation (which is perceived to be good) and the Inner Organisation which is undiluted evil. Lower Masons believe there is nothing above the Third Degree Masons. Checkout online for Bill Schnoebelen, he’s an American/Canadian ex - Mason who reached the 90th degree. Also checkout Mike Restivo’s story (USA).

333 - I have an idea. Let’s start a secret society called "GOODEEZ" and work just like the Masons. The only difference is that GOODEEZ is transparent and has no ulterior motives. It will be run by victims of this corrupt society so that we can use our expertise to stop any wrong doing. We will add this group to our already established Second Family victims group. It’s free.

Anyone want to join/help/support us ? Or you can look back in history when you had your last chance of FR33DOM. (serious)

334 - We at SF have already revealed the FMs favourite/symbolic numbers (online) that they use in their Vehicle reg’s, phone numbers and house numbers. We kinda wondered how many crooked FMs have changed their numbers since this expose ?

335 - I recently attemped suicide. My statement "Not because of family domestics/paranoia/depression or cry for help" I done it because I know the truth and nobody was listening. I also know that if nobody listens then there is no one to help. I’m stuck with this FM persecution for life (wish I knew who or why these FM freaks put me on their revenge register). Anyway, I decided to try to bring a bit of FM exposure by tying the knife to two balloons. I knew the balloons would get carried away with the tide (no evidence)and they would find my body with a slit throat. The Doctor said I was half a centimeter away from my aorta. Just to rub salt into my wound, we were stopped by the FM Police on the way back from the hospital. Evil bastard gave me a half smile. Do you think the suicide and blame was wrong ? I am already risking my life (so are other activists, some lost) for the ignorant masses.

336 - This is October 2007 and I’m still getting 24/7 FM persecution, I hope to live long enough to get this massive story out. Society needs this story badly. You can bring down Freemasonry just by investigating this and other victims stories. I will not write about the things I can’t prove. Ideally, it would be better to try these crooks in front of an independent court/audience. (+cameras)

337 - Charity. Here’s another Freemason’s Myth. Their Masonic media say they give lots to charity ???? Yes, to Masonic charities. It is a self perpetuating money spinner. You see, the Illuminati own the Media and everything you see, read or hear comes from their point of view. So, when they tell you they are a wonderful charitable fraternity of men (Yes mate, was that a rasperry or flatulence ? still stinks). Have you got it yet ? Incidentally, I’m entitled to feel angry, 35 years of persecution and still counting.

When is the penny going to drop for you ? You just don’t get it, do you ? Your comfort zone cannot last. You have to be an idiot to think this problem will go away. You’d better start fighting today or sit and wait for the remote controlled planes, too late ? 9/11

337 - Local guy in professional job meets up with me (off duty ?) and befriends me. I had recocnised him as a FM perp. This is what the FMs do, they try to make out everything is normal. We walked the dogs up to where he hadn’t been since he was a kid. You wouldn’t have a clue that this evil was wanting close to my conversation and feelings so that he could run back to the lodge. This guy also watched some of his accomplices who double park on a bend (stick with me) to dish out more FM persecution.

This person would use the works vehicle and fellow Masons to further psychologically persecute me. I’d love to ask this freak about how confident he was, knowing his pretend brothers were there to be his witness, should anything go wrong. More

338 - Another young FM terrorist within the community. Sent to persecute me in summer 200? Got all the info here, dates times reg’s and description or was it a photo? Needs further investigation, he’s young and will spend a lifetime doing the same to FM victims. Remember that when we produce the evidence, we don’t have to prove nothing, we just locate and film/follow him doing his persecution to other FM victims. Also track his future missions/lodge/accomplices/coordinator, etc. (Petrie & Co, See part 11)

339 - Evil FM professional called me. Price was quoted and agreed. A good job done and this guy just refused to pay me. I could not afford to sue him. Another FM lawyer confident of the crooked gang behind him. These bastards abuse their power willy nilly.

340 - We are all over the internet asking for the top Masons to come forward to talk to us in front of live cameras and an independent audience. We contacted UGLE (United Grand Lodge Of England) GLOS (Grand Lodge Of Scotland) and the top Masons at Rosslyn Chapel, without reply ? This offer is still available. Are there any good Masons out there ? Hello ?

341 - Guy calls me and said his boss (MP) likes what I have put online and could I come to Manchester to pick up some cash for our victims group ? He said I could recognise him in a denim jacket with a white carnation on the lapel. So I checked online for "Masonic white carnation" and it came up as to be worn only in the lodge. I called him back to say I didn’t want Masonic egg on my face. He denied it and started getting a bit ... It’s OK Michael (that’s what he called himself) I recorded it for you. Lot’s more

342 - I recently found out my best mate of 35 years is an evil Mason (another horrible story). That got me right in the pit of the gut.

343 - I meet a guy who runs an injustice group who I think is a fellow victim. So like a fool I trust this guy and find out some months later he was a Mason and so was the injustice group This is how the Masons operate, to protect their plunder. Lots more

344 - My teeth were fine and no problems. I left my local dentist to register with a dentist who I thought was OK. He gave me three fillings and said I needed three more. Before I had the next three fillings done, I went straight back to my old dentist for a check up and they said everything’s fine, we’ll see you in six months ? I later found out this guy is a Crooked Freemason. He is still practicing. This evil should be investigated, there must be hundreds of his victims. Plus more being done every day.

345 - My eldest son suffers from Autism and we had a really bad time from social work and had no idea at that time about Freemasonry. These crooks played a major part in our family’s persecution. Large story of outrageous corruption. This evil uses those closest to you to persecute you. When it comes to money and following orders, Freemasonry knows no boundaries.

346 - The crooked FMs have a profile on everybody. You gave them this information through trust, ie doctors, police, councils DWP, etc. These crooks have placemen everywhere in every department you can think of. They know who to shaft and when.

347 - Dave ?effrey. This was the last person I trusted. This is pure evil. I spent two hours in my van telling this guy my story of Masonic persecution and we were both in tears. When we got out of the van, he gave me a long hug. This is a religious man who always talks about the (Big Man Upstairs) referring to God who will sort this evil out. Guess what, this bastard turned out to be a Freemason/Round Table member. Everything I told him went straight back to the lodge. I can still hear the Masons laughing.

349 - We lived in a Masonic Cul De Sac (called Watt Place, very symbolic to FMs) and can tell you hundreds of stories with back up (diaries +) including things stolen (this place is safe, you can leave your car doors open all the time) Also high number of slow punctures. My immediate neighbour was the brother of the top policeman in Strathclyde, both FMs. The Masons know when your house is empty, they have eyes n’ ears everywhere and they track our car and mobile phones (each of our phones). I can now clarify hundreds of incidents. I couldn’t understand how I got FM company as soon as I took my dogs out. (Peregrine Joe)

350 - Remember Gollum in (Lord Of The Rings) where he covers his ears and says "not listening, not listening" As long as the public keep covering their ears when you mention Freemasons, we’ve got no chance. Listen to us as a group of Masonic victims. You had better waken up, this will not go away and it’s going to get seriously worse. The Masons are the brainwashed foot-soldiers for The Illuminati (or call them Oil Barons, Bankers or world’s richest families) they are Mason’s puppet masters and they have a plan. It’s called the New World Order (or Global Government) and these brainwashed Masons WILL follow orders. If you know a Mason and you think they are lovely, wonderul people. Just ask yourself where you think their loyalties lie ? To you, the planet or the Brotherhood ? Stop reading this now and join/help/support SF. Do something or the evil FMs win.

351 - If you do not believe me or you think any of this story is fabricated, then I don’t have a problem to speak the truth to any videocam, lie detector or even truth drug (even though the truth drug has serious side effects). I can back up everything here and with evidence. Then we will present the next Second Family victim’s story. This is a tiny, tiny fraction of my story. Read online.
you're falling into the trap of it's a freemasonic conspiracy...it's NOT. They play a role but not THE role.

To be honest, i don't know what kind of freemasons/freemsaonry this is but it's ridiculous! I will look into it further but like...lol it's not like this!

tut tut tut

i'm sure masons who ever come by this site they must be pissing their knickers that you're wasting your time and energies on this type of thing.

Look...most of the masons are there for the knowledge, they study the knowledge to gain enlightenment that's it. Then there will be paedos, and allthe usual perverted people who are members of all kinds of clubs/groups who are freemasons too with the image that gives to their fellow buddies...you can't bale all masons who say that all masons are evil that is more than rubbish and just pinning the blame on one group to make it simpler.



Masons i know don't persecute or annoy anyone, they are selfish people in fact, but only selfish in the sense that they want to go higher up for themselves and their family and they don't run around trying to recruit this bozo, that bozo, have any of you actually been to a mason meeting? i have.

i really don't know what the hell kind of crazy masons the above are! that site must be a christian dis info against masons thang.

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First to those that say they have been harrassed or persecuted by the masons, I BELIEVE you. Even THOUGH I know masons who are really decent people. At the start of this thread it was asked that people stop saying this. I ask (as one who DOES want to expose the EVIL that is the true purpose of the Rite) that people stop saying that ALL masons are bad. The fact is that this demonstrably incorrect view is as great an obstacle to exposeing the truth as the claim that the Rite is totally good.

I have never been harassed in any way by a mason, and i have even debated the existance of the Luciferian Degrees with Masons who have refused to believe it. Not refused to admit it - refused to believe it. I am VERY perceptive and i know when someone i'm talking with knows more than they let on.

If you have been harrassed by low-level masons, its probably something personal, or else they have been led to believe they are soemhow defending the order (which they believe to be good). I can see those of their inner circles (who are indeed quiet nasty to be sure) wanting SOME outsiders to believe that all masons are bad; because when you go around saying that then when it is proven that the masses of masons really are just regular folks who would NEVER seek to enslave everyone or rule the world, (which IS proven on a daily basis) then all of us who seek to expose the work of the Luciferian Rites are made to look like fools. Much like Hitler claiming that "the Jews" were out to enslave the world made the effort to expose the Rothschilds for their very real involvement in world domination of which HE HIMSELF was a pawn seem less credible and the rantings of Anti-Semitism.(Note that Hitler also said "the Masons" (universally) worked for "the Jews")

again, i have known good masons who refuse to believe that the (much smaller) upper degrees were up to anything nefarious. I was also briefly acquainted with one who did come to realize it was true. He renounced Masonry, and confessed to me that "their leader is the Devil". Not sure what ever became of him, perhaps he's taken up "residence" at the bottom of the ocean!! There is one GOOD mason!! What if all the decent people in the lower degrees came to the same realization? The whole evil plot would come crashing down, thats what! How is THAT going to happen? Not by people accusing them of being in on things they have no witting parts in thats for sure. Like most things in this world you can't view the Rites of Masonry in black and white. That's exactly what the Illuminati want; it plays right into their hands.
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