USO's

[judge360]

Hi All this is my first post here

Ive been interested in the ufo phenomenum for years and yet USO's are just as popular as UFO's of which i believe to be the same but hardly get the same attention.

According to Popular Belief Us Humans Originated From The Oceans.

Im starting to believe that USO's & UFO's arnt actually travelling Vast distances across the Universe and that They Have always Been Here & Originate From Our Oceans as We Did?

Just like UFO's, sightings of the underwater equivalent go back to the dawn of civilisation Indeed the cultures of ancient Mesopotamia believed they derived all their learning from such beings who emerged from the sea. In more recent times the phenomenon has produced a steady stream of sightings. Perhaps not so many incidents as sky sightings, but since the oceans are so broad and unpeopled, this is not to be wondered at.

Considering 70% of the Earth is covered in Water this makes sense. We know more about the Moon than we do About our Seas.

There's been Thousands of reports of USO's Its Believed That Christopher Columbus Reported in his Logs Of Strange Lights Coming From the Sea.

Here's a Good Documentary on USO's

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6075736046554#

Im going to put a compillation of some Good USO Reports ive found this may take some time however as theres alot to go through.

Ill start with the Most Famous The 1967 Shag Harbour Incident (most members should know of this)

The most important Canadian UFO incident on record, The Shag Harbour Incident occurred late on the night of October 4 1967. Shag Harbour is a small fishing village in Nova Scotia on the east coast of Canada, named after the 'Shag' cormorant. This stretch of the coastline is not without its folklore and mysteries regarding pirates, giant sea serpents and ghost ships but far from being merely folklore, the UFO incident had many eyewitnesses and much media coverage.

The earliest UFO report on October 4 in the area was by the pilot of am Air Canada DC-9 plane who saw a large rectangular object, then a string of lights and a flurry of explosions over south-eastern Quebec at 7.20pm.

A number of people reported seeing a UFO in the air that night but many lost sight of it as it headed down towards the body of water known as 'The Sound', which was adjacent to Shag Harbour. A notable individual who saw the UFO in the sky was Laurie Wickens, he was driving down Highway 3 through the village with four of his friends. Just after 11pm local time one of his passengers pointed out an object in the sky with four flashing yellow lights at an angle of 45 degrees, moving down towards the Sound.

The group lost sight of the craft but heard the object as it went into the water. They made for the shore so they could see what had happened. After leaving the car in the parking lot of an Irish Moss Plant, they stood on the shore and observed the object, now showing a single, constant, dim yellow light, floating in the water about a mile out.

Wickens decided to drive further along the coast to Wood's Harbour where he knew he could find a payphone to notify the Royal Canadian Mounted Police that he had seen a plane crash into the water. Corporal Werbicki answered Wickens' call and asked if the young man was sober when he saw the incident. Still, the call was taken seriously but before the Corporal could notify any units in the area he was contacted from Maggie Garon's Point by Mary Banks, corroborating Wickens' story.

Werbicki now contacted Constables Ron O'Brien and Ron Pond with the intention of the three going to the Moss Plant where Wickens had pulled up. Werbicki then received reports that three more people had seen the UFO, a man in Bear point and two women on Cape Sable Island, the man reporting a noise as the craft came down.

Werbicki contacted Wickens at the payphone instructing him to head back to the Moss Plant to meet him and his constables.

At around 11pm that night, teenagers Norman Smith and David Kendrick had also been driving along Highway 13, on their way back from a date on Cape Sable Island with their girlfriends also reported seeing a craft with four or five yellow lights, flashing sequentially at an angle of 45 degrees. They assumed it to be a commercial passenger plane and lost sight of it behind the tree line as it was moving in the direction of Shag Harbour.

After being dropped off at his house, Smith noticed the lights again and raised his father, Wilfred. After witnessing the craft drop down below a small hill and assuming an airliner had just crashed into the harbour, the two Smiths made their way to the shore to assist in any way they could.

Wickens was joined at the water's edge, near the Moss Plant, by two RCMP cruisers carrying Werbicki and his two constables and then by the two Smiths in their truck. The object was so dimly lit and far out that Wickens had to point out where it was but the other men were able to see it and between Werbicki and Norman Smith, estimations of 60 feet wide and 10 feet high, compared to a nearby buoy were made.

Werbicki gave orders to his men, he told Constable Pond to remain on the shore and take statements from any witnesses and Constable O'Brien to call the Rescue Coordination Center in Halifax from a local house to ask for their assistance and advice on a possible downed plane. Werbicki himself was about to set off to find two fishermen to take him out to the crash site when the people on the shore noticed that craft was sinking down into the Sound.

The two fishermen whose boats were to be used in the operation were Bradford Shand and Lawrence Smith, Wilfred Smith's brother. Norman Smith and Werbicki went out on Shand's boat while Wilfred went with his brother.

The Smith boat headed the two towards the buoy, named the Budget Light, which had been used for estimations. As they neared the crash site they were greeted by a half-mile long, 80-foot wide layer of thick yellow foam bubbles from below the surface and a smell of sulphur.

Expecting to find survivors or bodies both boats were used to search the area but after nearly an hour they had turned up nothing. The coast guard boat arrived from Cape Sable Island, captained by Ronnie Newell who informed Werbicki that he had received a response from the Rescue Coordination Center that all planes, private, military and commercial were accounted for and safe from northeast Canada down to New England.

There were now six boats searching the crash site but they were no longer searching for a downed airplane but a downed UFO, this caused understandable concern. The fruitless search was called off for the night at 3am and the official search was ended on October 9 when the Canadian Forces Maritime Commander reported that "not a trace, not a clue, not a bit of anything" had been located in the water. Diving teams scouring the bottom of the Sound found no evidence of a craft having hit the bottom.

The RCMP, the Royal Canadian Air Force, the Rescue Coordination Center and the normally conservative Halifax Chronicle-Herald newspaper named the craft as a UFO or a dark object in reports about regarding the events of October 4 1967 at Shag Harbour.

MUFON investigator Chris Styles who, at the age of 12 witnessed the event from his bedroom window in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia and then from the shoreline in Shag Harbour started looking into the incident in 1993. He, along with fellow MUFON investigator Doug Ledger claims to have uncovered a remarkable story.

Styles, having interviewed divers, military personnel, officials involved in the incident and local residents pieced together the following train of events. The UFO, having hit the water, submerged and moved 25 miles to Government Point near the site of CFB Shelburne, a submarine detection facility where it was noticed. A group of naval vessels were despatched and told to simply wait above the submerged UFO, which could now be classed as a USO or Unidentified Submersible Object. As a salvage operation was being planned, the UFO was joined by another craft of unknown origin just before some of the naval ships were summoned away to investigate a Russian submarine in the area. The unknown craft soon moved off towards the Gulf of Maine but outpaced the remaining naval vessels trying to follow.

On October 11 1967, many people along the Canadian coastline from Shag Harbour to Yarmouth reported seeing two UFOs, which may have been the two craft being followed by the navy.

Styles' story unfortunately has very little evidence or official backing due to it being made up of many 'off the record' conversations and anonymous sources. He also claims that the fishermen found silvery debris at the crash site in his report.

Shag Harbour continues to be a very popular UFO tourist destination after Styles released his book, Dark Object and the Shag Harbour post office released a commemorative stamp depicting a flying saucer hovering over a lighthouse and boat. TV crews from across North America and UFO enthusiasts have visited the small village but an official explanation has never been given, probably due to the involvement of CFB Shelburne and a Russian submarine at the height of the Cold War.

source http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/Cas...cle.asp?ID=168

Heres another interesting case

03-12-1975



Location. Punta Ocoa, Dominican Republic

Date: March 12 1975 Time: 0430A



Several anglers fishing right off the coast reported seeing a domed disc-shaped object approaching their location. The dome appeared transparent and luminous. Inside the transparent dome the observers saw two standing human-like figures, wearing bulky helmets, operating controls and apparently looking out. The craft dived into the ocean and disappeared from sight.



HC addendum

Source: APRO Bulletin 2-1982, Denys Breysse Project Becassine Type: A

Heres another:

04-14-2008



National UFO Reporting Center

Sighting Report



Occurred: 4/14/2008 11:00 (Entered as : 04/14/08 11:00)

Reported: 4/14/2008 7:40:49 PM 19:40

Posted: 4/17/2008

Location: Vero Beach, FL

Shape: Cigar

Duration:3 minutes



Two cigar shaped craft moving at the speed of thought played leap frog with each other at the beach.



Two cigar shaped craft (long white and thin) were playing leap frog with each other just above the horizon. Sometimes they would go into the water. They would be stationary for about 5 seconds then would disappear and instantly reappear about 10 degrees away from their original position. It was a sunny day with many clouds and I was the only one who saw it on a sparsely populated public beach. Then they just disappeared. After they were gone there were about 6-12 lenticular1 clouds in the same vicinity. In about 5 minutes the lenticular1 clouds were gone. It was very exciting.

Some more interesting cases:

Brazilian Encounters.

Interestingly enough some of the best documented USO encounters have occurred off the coast of Brazil. On the night of 26th of July 1980 the crew of the tugboat Caioba- Seahorse were 60 miles off the coast of Brazil when they sighted a long grey object in the water ahead of them. At that moment a bright flashing light was seen skimming towards the tug at high speed. It eventually slowed down to hover above the grey object before lifting it from the sea. Both objects then sped off across the ocean.

Cigar shaped craft.

Only four months later an incredible incident took place on the Araguari River in Brazil. Over 70 people waiting for a ferry watched in astonishment as a 15 foot metallic object rose from the river to hover above them before disappearing from sight.

In 1967, again off the coast of Brazil, a cigar shaped craft is reported to have followed the Argentine cargo ship Naveiro. The object stayed alongside the freighter for some time yet curiously left no wake. In some astonishment the crew watched on as the object began to glow in intensity before plunging beneath the ship into deeper waters.

English Sightings.

In England several recent sightings off the coast of Cornwall excited considerable speculation. Cornwall is well known for such happenings, but strangely enough the most unusual British encounter was said to have involved the driver and passengers of a London bus. The year was 1964 and driver Bob Fall on a route near Tottenham was amazed to a see a silver cigar shaped object dive into the nearby waters of the River Lea. Police later explained the incident as a flight of ducks, but severed overhead telephone wires and a large gouge on the embankment told a different story.

Widespread Alarm.

Off the coast of South America in the 1960's the Argentine Navy pursued numerous USO's for at least fifteen days before finally losing track of them. In 1953 USO's caused considerable alarm in Buenos Aires harbour. Once again the navy gave chase but were unable to match the speed of the objects. In Panama meanwhile a USO that emerged from the sea is reported to have followed a passer-by for some distance before speeding away.

Scandinavian Mystery.

In Scandinavia mystery objects are known to have flown into and out of frozen lakes. A report in the Times of the 5th of April 1967 gave the following account: "Something incredibly powerful has smashed a huge hole through the ice covering a lake in central Sweden, but scientists and military experts are uncertain what it was". The possibility of a meteorite was quickly discounted and several days later there was a further incident. Once again it proved that USO's are every bit as elusive as their aerial counterparts.

Source: http://www.space-2001.net/html/uso_.html

IF Anyones interested in adding to this Thread About The USO phenomenum it would be Appreciated Ill Add More Case's Shortly (Loads to sift through i want to find some of the best.)

[sm1973]

Originally Posted by judge360

Hi All this is my first post here

Ive been interested in the ufo phenomenum for years and yet USO's are just as popular as UFO's of which i believe to be the same but hardly get the same attention.

According to Popular Belief Us Humans Originated From The Oceans.

Im starting to believe that USO's & UFO's arnt actually travelling Vast distances across the Universe and that They Have always Been Here & Originate From Our Oceans as We Did?

Just like UFO's, sightings of the underwater equivalent go back to the dawn of civilisation Indeed the cultures of ancient Mesopotamia believed they derived all their learning from such beings who emerged from the sea. In more recent times the phenomenon has produced a steady stream of sightings. Perhaps not so many incidents as sky sightings, but since the oceans are so broad and unpeopled, this is not to be wondered at.

Considering 70% of the Earth is covered in Water this makes sense. We know more about the Moon than we do About our Seas.

There's been Thousands of reports of USO's Its Believed That Christopher Columbus Reported in his Logs Of Strange Lights Coming From the Sea.

Here's a Good Documentary on USO's

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6075736046554#

Im going to put a compillation of some Good USO Reports ive found this may take some time however as theres alot to go through.

Ill start with the Most Famous The 1967 Shag Harbour Incident (most members should know of this)



source http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/Cas...cle.asp?ID=168

Heres another interesting case



Heres another:



Some more interesting cases:



Source: http://www.space-2001.net/html/uso_.html

IF Anyones interested in adding to this Thread About The USO phenomenum it would be Appreciated Ill Add More Case's Shortly (Loads to sift through i want to find some of the best.)

Thanks for the info, I saw a good documentary last year or the year before about USO's, in particular the Shag Harbour incident! I would love to know more about this phenomenon as like you say it isn't as well known as the UFO phenomenon.

Have you read a book called The Welsh Triangle?
There were reports in that book of a possible underwater base off the coast of Wales!!!

[psketti]

Originally Posted by judge360

Shag

*giggles*

[judge360]

Originally Posted by sm1973

Thanks for the info, I saw a good documentary last year or the year before about USO's, in particular the Shag Harbour incident! I would love to know more about this phenomenon as like you say it isn't as well known as the UFO phenomenon.

Have you read a book called The Welsh Triangle?
There were reports in that book of a possible underwater base off the coast of Wales!!!

I Think This Is From The Book Which You Refer:

To most people 1977 is synonymous with punk rock but in West Wales it is more closely associated with UFOs and aliens in silver suits. You see this was the year when the Pembrokeshire coastline became the world focal point for extraterrestrial activity.

It started in February 1977 when 15 schoolkids at Broad Haven Primary School claimed to have witnessed a metallic cigar-shaped craft land in a field near their school. Some of them were adamant that they saw a silver alien with pointed ears emerge from the UFO. Teachers and parents were sceptical but the kids were so convinced of what they saw they handed in a petition to police urging them to investigate. When asked by their headmaster to sketch the UFO the schoolchildren all produced remarkably similar pictures.

The story gained national headlines and the media flocked to the West Wales coast. Consequently the number of UFO incidents in the area increased dramatically. Was it all mass hysteria? Was somebody mischief-making? Was it the work of the military? Or had aliens actually arrived in Pembrokeshire?

One family in the area seemed particularly plagued by alien activity. Dairyman Billy Coombs and his wife Pauline from Ripperston Farm talked of exploding televisions and being pursued in a car by a fiery object shaped like a rugby ball. They also claimed that a herd of cows had been teleported from a locked field into a nearby farmyard. Matters reached their climax one night in April 1977 when a figure 7ft tall in a silver spacesuit appeared at their window. The policeman who responded to their 999 call was in no doubt that their terror was absolutely genuine.

The strange events in West Wales caused a slew of books to be written (see pic). The Welsh Triangle (1979) by Peter Paget came to the conclusion that aliens had set up a base beneath the Stack Rock in St Bride's Bay. The Dyfed Enigma (1979) by Randall Jones Pugh and Ted Holliday tapped into Welsh folklore and ley-line theory. Whilst Clive Harold in The Uninvited (1979) focused on the peculiar goings on at Ripperston Farm.

There were numerous further sightings. In April 1977 at 2am hotelier Rosa Granville saw an illuminated UFO and two figures in plasticated suits at St Bride's Bay. Cynics will no doubt claim that the appearance of aliens at her hotel would have been great for business but Granville was disturbed enough to demand an official inquiry from the MoD. A discreet investigation was indeed undertaken and although no results have ever been published a local hoaxer was suspected.

Many years later two members of a round table club in the area came forward and confessed their part in a practical joke that had gotten out of hand. Apparently they had been parading around in borrowed silver-lined asbestos suits worn by oil refinery workers which had built-in helmets and made them look 7ft tall.

But does this really explain the West Wales flap? After all, the incidents were numerous and took place over a period of several months. To this day the children (now middle-aged) at Broad Haven Primary School remain convinced that what they saw back in 1977 was more serious than a mere prank and has its real roots in outer space.

[sm1973]

Originally Posted by judge360

I Think This Is From The Book Which You Refer:

Yea that's the book, it's a great read but not sure if it has been debunked by those blokes admitting they were larking about!

The kids who saw the "spaceship", there were about 15 of them who witnessed it and I don't think they would all lie!

[majestic1]

This photo was taken in 1971 over Lake Cote in Costa Rica from an aircraft 10,000 miles up during a cartography survey, its appears to show a metallic disc entering or leaving the lake.

[king triad]

Hey Judge welcome to the forum and good first post...All triangular ships can hide under water..they hang out eating lobster..

[manxboz]

In one of the the Most Bizarre books by Fate magazine it has a few pages on USO's, it is very informative, I have a copy of this book but cannot find it at this moment and will post the full title soon.

[david chow]

What are your opinions on who control these USOs?

Do you believe they are alien, they come down from space, and just have the ability to also go in our waters?

Or do you believe they are from the earth, ancient origin. Possibly from a past civilization like Atlantis or further beyond that made their home either in the ocean or below the ocean(some kind of hollow earth theory)?

[king triad]

Originally Posted by david chow

What are your opinions on who control these USOs?

Do you believe they are alien, they come down from space, and just have the ability to also go in our waters?

Or do you believe they are from the earth, ancient origin. Possibly from a past civilization like Atlantis or further beyond that made their home either in the ocean or below the ocean(some kind of hollow earth theory)?

I believe their is a fleet of extremely high tech ships in the milky way. they are silver triangles when they are not cloaked...they can cloak as fireballs, orbs or stars or full cloak. some of them are hiding in the ocean some are cloaked in space.

[judge360]

Originally Posted by david chow

What are your opinions on who control these USOs?

Do you believe they are alien, they come down from space, and just have the ability to also go in our waters?

Or do you believe they are from the earth, ancient origin. Possibly from a past civilization like Atlantis or further beyond that made their home either in the ocean or below the ocean(some kind of hollow earth theory)?

I wouldnt like to say if they are Aliens or not but of course you cant rule them out.

Id probably go with a Ancient Civilization that Originated here on Earth and Have always been here. Yes maybe something like Atlantis.

However Past Civilizations such as The Mayans, Aztecs, Ancient Egyptions, Dogon Tribes etc All Point to the Skys.

[judge360]

Here's some interesting Cases which Involve Russian Military.

The Russian Ufology Research Center has a collection of "hydrosphere aspect" sightings. The secret files of the Soviet Navy contain much valuable information on UFO sightings. Soviet military researchers quite thorough. The files have been largely inaccessible, even after the fall of the USSR. But I was able to collect some interesting information.

Submarines
Mr. Krapiva attended lectures given by veteran officers of Soviet nuclear-powered submarines. They had served in the Soviet North, in secret naval installations and bases. The lectures sometimes veered off the planned presentations, and many spellbinding tales were told. For instance, episodes when Soviet sonar-operators (military hydroacoustics technicians) were "hearing" (at great depths) strange "targets". Their submarines were actually being chased by other "submarines". The pursuers changed their speed at will -- speeds that were much faster than any other similar vessel in the world at that time.

Lieutenant-Commander Oleg Sokolov confidentially informed the students that while he was on duty during his submarine's navigation, he had observed through a periscope an ascent of some strange object through the water. He was not able to identify it, because he viewed it through the optical system of the periscope. This underwater "take off" took place in the early 1960's.

Sevastopol
A few years ago V. V. Krapiva met with Professor Korsakov of the Odessa University. Professor Korsakov told him of a conversation he had with a friend of his, a Soviet Navy officer who had served at the Sevastopol Naval base. Back in the 1950's this officer personally sighted a UFO. The object moved upward from behind a battle cruiser. The officer was under the impression that the object surfaced from the depths of the Black Sea. Professor Korsakov has a photograph of the object.

Eyewitness reports
In August 1965, a crew of the steamship, RADUGA, while navigating in the Red Sea, observed an unusual phenomenon. About two miles away, a fiery sphere dashed out from under the water and hovered over the surface of the sea, illuminating it. The sphere was sixty meters in diameter, and it hovered above the sea at an altitude of 150 meters. A gigantic pillar of water rose as the sphere emerged from the sea and collapsed some moments later.

In December 1977, not far from the Novy Georgy Island, the crew of the fishing trawler, VASILY KISELEV, also observed something quite extraordinary. Rising vertically from under the water was a doughnut-shaped object. Its diameter was between 300 and 500 meters. It hovered at the altitude of four to five kilometers. The trawler's radar station was immediately rendered inoperative. The object hovered over the area for three hours, and then disappeared instantly.

The testimony of Alexander G. Globa, a seaman from GORI, a Soviet tanker, was published in Zagadki Sfinksa magazine (Issue # 3, 1992) Odessa,. In June 1984, GORI was in the Mediterranean, twenty nautical miles from the Straight of Gibraltar. At 16:00, Globa was on duty. With him was Second-in-Command S. Bolotov. They were standing watch at the left bridge extension wing when both men observed a strange polychromatic object. When the object was astern, it stopped suddenly. S. Bolotov was agog, shaking his binoculars and shouting: "It is a flying saucer, a real saucer, my God, hurry, hurry, look!" Globa looked through his own binoculars and saw, at a distance over the stern, a flattened out looking object (it did remind him of an upside-down frying pan). The UFO was gleaming with a grayish metallic shine. The lower portion of the craft had a precise round shape, its diameter no more than twenty meters. Around the lower portion of it Globa also observed "waves" of protuberances on the outside plating.

The base of the object's body consisted of two semi-discs, the smaller being on top; they slowly revolved in opposing directions. At the circumference of the lower disc, Globa saw numerous shining, bright, bead-like lights. The seaman's attention was centered on the bottom portion of the UFO. It looked as if it was completely even and smooth, its color that of a yolk, and in the middle of it Globa discerned a round, nucleus-like stain. At the edge of the UFO's bottom, which was easily visible, was something that looked like a pipe. It glowed with an unnaturally bright rosy color, like a neon lamp. The top of the middle disc was crowned by a triangular-shaped something. It seemed that it moved in the same direction as the lower disc but at a much slowerpace.

Suddenly the UFO jumped up several times, as if moved by an invisible wave. Many lights illuminated its bottom portion. The crew of GORI tried to attract the object's attention using a signal projector. By that time Captain Sokolovky was on the deck with his men. He and his Second-in-Command were watching the object intensely. However, the UFO's attention was distracted by another ship approaching at the port side. It was an Arab dry cargo ship on its way to Greece. The Arabs confirmed that the object hovered over their ship. A minute and a half later the object changed its flight's trajectory, listed to the right, gained speed, and ascended rapidly. The Soviet seamen observed that when it rose through the clouds, appearing and disappearing again, it would occasionally shine in the sun's rays. The craft then flared up, like a spark, and was gone instantly.

Some history
The earliest mention of giant beings goes back to early 1900's. Several boys in Georgia (Russian Empire) discovered a cave inside a mountain, full of human-like skeletons. Each skeleton was three meters in height. To get to the cave, the boys had to dive into a lake. George Papashvili and his wife recall the incident in a book published in New York in 1925, St. Martin's Press (Anything Can Happen).

Vladimir Georgiyevich Ajaja nowadays is a prominent personality in the Russian Ufological Association. But he was not always a ufologist; and when he became one, he earned the ire of the Communist Party's dislike of those who study forbidden topics. With the help of his highly placed Navy buddies, he was able to write a piece about the Bermuda Triangle for Nauka I Zhizhn, a respected Soviet scientific magazine. After all, he was a marine researcher who, on numerous occasions, studied the depths of the Atlantic Ocean from aboard a Soviet submarine (with many features designed by him). Other mainstream Soviet oceanologists would not touch such a "questionable" subject. In his search for the information, two sources helped him: Charles Berlitz's The Bermuda Triangle book that mentioned UFOs (he could find no other books in the libraries), and Vice-Admiral Y.V. Ivanov, head of the Naval Intelligence Directorate. Ajaja found out that the Naval Intelligence had long considered UFOs to be a subject of serious investigation. But his newly found conviction put him on thin ice. Ajaja's efforts to study and promote ufology made him a target of the science officialdom and the Party functionaries. His name was smeared in the Soviet media. Ajaja's works were blacklisted. His lectures were outlawed. He was fired from several jobs and prevented from speaking publicly.

Again, his Navy buddies helped him land a job and write about UFOs for their practical use. In his brochure, "ATTENTION: UFOS", he stated that the UFO wave of 1989, still in progress in 1991 when it was published, had swept away ideological and censorship barriers which were placed against ufology in the USSR. But because of the years of silence the country has been rendered totally unprepared for UFO phenomena. So he helped organize the SOYUZUFOTSENTR to promote scientific study of UFO phenomena. It broke away from its cradle, the Soviet Academy of Sciences because, as did many others, Ajaja was convinced that those responsible for the UFO research within the Academy actually prevented true and unbiased research.

A. Gorbovsky, a Soviet historian published a book titled Enigmas of Ancient History in the early 1970's. For many people in the Soviet Union, this book was an introduction to the forbidden world of ufology, of paleocontact (a Russian term for the ancient astronaut hypothesis), and mysteries of our ancient history. Gorbovsky mentions an incident that took place in the ancient Mediterranean where people observed a strange underwater vehicle surfacing at high speed. The object ejected itself from the water and shortly thereafter disappeared.

B. Borovikov hunted Black Sea sharks for many years. Then something happened that put an end to his hobby. Diving in the Anapa area, he descended to the depth of eight meters. He saw giant beings rising up from below. They were milky-white but with humanoid faces and something like fish tails. The being ahead of its companions noticed Borovikov and stopped. It had giant bulging eyes, as if in some vague glasses. The other two joined it. The first one waved her hand ,it was definitely a hand with membranes, towards the diver. All of them approached the diver and stopped at a short distance. Then they turned around and swam away. Borovikov's experience was published in XX Vek: Khronika Neobjasnimogo (Moscow, 1996).

C. Povaliyayev was handgliding over Kavgolov (Leningrad area) in the early 1990's. There are lakes, and in one of them the skydiver noticed three giant "fish". He descended and was able to discern "swimmers" in silvery costumes. He mentioned the episode in his book Letuchi Gollandets (1995). There have been many UFO sightings in the area.

Paul Stonehill is a Soviet-born researcher of anomalous phenomena and the director of the Russian UFOlogy Research Center. He has lived in the United States since 1973 and has written several books on anomalous phenomena including his most recent book, The Soviet UFO Files

[judge360]

Its Believed that there Are Underwater Bases Across the Globe.

There's Supposedly A Huge Underwater Base Of The Coast Of Iceland.

There was a recent Documentary Hosted By Richard D Hall of Richplanet Featuring These Bases.

Here's Some Reports By Tony Dodd Mentioning The Iceland Base Amongst Others.

For some years I have had good reason to believe that world governments, headed by the Americans, not only have contact with alien races, but have reciprocal agreements with them, allowing certain species to come and go around our planet without hindrance. I also believe that certain species visiting this Planet are hostile by nature and come to us without invitation. I am of the opinion that that at least one of these types are responsible for the animal/human mutilations. The big problems faced by governments in these cases is how to deal with them. How do they stop creatures with vastly superior technology from coming here and committing various hostile acts such as abductions and mutilations. Those of you who have read my book ‘Alien Investigator’ will know that I have contact with certain diplomats who not only confirm meetings have been taking place between some government officials and an alien race, but have been receiving assistance from this race to advance technology to enable us to meet hostile aliens on a level playing field. My contacts have been present at these meetings and have met these aliens who are benevolent towards us but will not act with aggression towards any life form unless in self defence, but they are prepared to help us advance our technology.

The fact that alien species are visiting this planet is now beyond question. The fact that alien bases exist on the earth is almost certain and just as certain is the fact that alien bases exist in the deep oceans. I have collected a substantial file of evidence to suggest that there are alien bases under the sea in many parts of the world, including the North Atlantic, and that these are protected by a high level conspiracy. Since I first brought it out into the open, other researchers have found evidence to support this. The North Atlantic seems to be very significant and is possibly the largest sea base in European waters. Other reported underwater bases are in South America waters- in the areas of Puerto Rico and Brazil- in Antarctica and other deep unobserved areas of ocean.

From an alien point of view it is a logical choice. Three quarters of the earth is covered with water, and assuming that their technology is so superior to anything we know about, they can cope easily with the transformation from water to air, the North Atlantic is relatively unobserved. To us it is a difficult, dangerous stretch of water; to them it is good camouflage, and a mineral rich seabed. (Which I believe is a major part of the attraction).

Iceland has long been the centre of many stories about UFO incidents and alien sightings, but it was a sequence of events in the winter of 1992 that alerted me to the scale of activity in the Arctic Circle.

Iceland played a crucial role during the Cold War years, with huge radar bases built around its coast to monitor the activities of the Soviet Fleet, slipping out into the Atlantic from their Barents Sea bases. On many occasions, fighter planes were scrambled to pursue blips on the radar that turned out to be encounters with UFOs. Iceland is rich in legend and folklore and its people have many strange tales to tell of small creatures seen on the glaciers, particularly the Snaefellsjokull glacier, where residents leave food out for the little grey people who live under the glacier.

In the winter of 1992, there were dozens of UFO sightings in the north of Scotland, causing a flurry of media interest as literally hundreds of witnesses reported seeing strange shapes and lights in the sky. But there was one incident that did not get reported in the national press. On the 20th. December, near the Orkney Islands, a UFO was tracked on radar and a fighter plane ordered up to intercept it. I heard from a reliable source, that the plane and UFO merged on the radar screen, just as had happened with Foxtrot 94, and that again radio contact was lost. A search and rescue plane took off, and hours later made a mysterious discovery. In a remote inhospitable stretch of the Orkneys the plane was found intact in an area where it would have been impossible to carry out a controlled landing. The pilot was missing.

While I was making enquiries about this incident, which I never managed to verify, I stumbled upon my biggest and most important investigation ever: the Icelandic affair. On the same date 20th. December, an Icelandic naval source of mine telephoned to say that three large UFOs had been tracked coming down and entering the sea off the East coast of Iceland, close to langeness. Other witnesses confirmed seeing these UFOs, and they were also tracked on radar. The following day Icelandic fishermen reported seeing large, fast moving underwater craft with flashing coloured lights. They appeared to be tracked by (or be tracking) a glowing object in the sky which was travelling south in the direction of Scotland. The underwater craft caused a great deal of damage to the trawl nets of the fishing boats.

The fishermen, a hardy bunch used to pitting their strength and endurance against the huge seas and bitter cold of the Arctic Circle, were disturbed and alarmed by the strange underwater craft. They knew that they were not submarines: they travelled far too fast and they had never seen submarines with coloured flashing lights. After reports from the crews of the fishing boats, patrol boats from the National Icelandic Coastguard were dispatched to the area.

On 23rd December, two gun boats from the Icelandic navy and a coastguard vessel were sent ‘ on observations’ to Langeness. The crews were given no information about why they were there, but I heard later from one of the seamen that a sense of unease pervaded the atmosphere on board the naval vessel. They were joined in the area by a fleet of NATO warships that were officially on a ‘naval exercise’, despite the fact that it was Christmas. Newspaper stories reported the fleet was tracking large underwater craft, thought to be a new breed of Russian super submarine. On Christmas Eve, the crew of two British hunter killer submarines were suddenly recalled from leave and sent to rendezvous with the fleet. If it was only an exercise, it was done at the worst possible time for morale, as these men had just settled down with their families for the Christmas break when they were told to return to their ships instantly. The only justification they were given was that they were taking part in something important.

From my sources I know that four more UFOs were tracked coming down into the sea, in the same quadrant as the first three, and again the fast moving underwater craft were seen. Shortly afterwards An American ship was reported missing. All the NATO ships joined the search, during which one of the British submarines mysteriously lost power and struck the sea bed. Fortunately the power returned and the submarine resumed action. On the 12th January1993 the weather closed in hard, and the smaller Icelandic vessels had to run for cover of Langeness Fjord where they were forced to remain for three weeks, before taking up their original positions.

Whilst this was happening at sea, Icelandic radio was broadcasting reports of large UFOs seen over the mountains in the eastern part of the country, and residents living in the area of Langeness Fjord, where the Icelandic naval vessel and gunboats were enduring appalling weather conditions, reported seeing small figures on the ice around the fjord.

By February 25th 1993 there was an American flotilla of three destroyers within the Arctic Circle, and all other vessels were warned not to approach within three nautical miles. From outside this exclusion zone radar on the other ships picked up sixteen airborne contacts with the American fleet, and these contacts could be seen as bright yellow/amber lights descending from the sky- the distance involved meant that they were much bigger than helicopters, and the atrocious weather conditions meant that no helicopters would have been able to fly anyway. The lights appeared to hover above the American warships for a short time, and sped away in formation at great speed.

The following month, crew and passengers of an Icelandic Airlines plane travelling from London to Reykjavic reported that they were tailed by two large balls of white light from the north of Scotland until they were over Iceland. Then in April two Icelandic fishing boats went missing and the search crews reported white tubular lights hovering over their vessels. At the same time, the radios on the ships failed to function but worked normally again when the lights moved away. All the seamen involved in the search were warned not to divulge any information about what they had seen. My contact reported to me in great secrecy.

By 15th April, only two American destroyers remained in the area and the other vessels were ordered to search for a missing warship. The names of the remaining US ships had been blacked out, and their crews were seen wearing full battle dress. All civilian ships, including fishing boats were again ordered to stay three nautical miles from them, probably because authorities already knew that information about their activities was being leaked: I had been making enquiries in America about what was going on. The colleague I spoke to in the USA approached the Office of Naval Intelligence to ask what was happening off the coast of Iceland, outlining to the woman intelligence officer some of the reports we had received about underwater craft and a missing US ship. The officer jokingly dismissed it all as rubbish and rumour, saying that she would have been aware of anything like that. She promised to make a couple of phone calls to check it out. Some time later my American friend received a call from the Office of Naval Intelligence: this time the tone had changed and the same officer demanded to know where the information had come from. This time her attitude was aggressive and threatening.

Immediately after this my direct ship to shore contact with the flotilla ceased: my contact next rang me when he was back on shore. There had been a huge clampdown on calls after it was reported that information that could have only come from the vessels taking part in the exercise was being leaked. Also in the middle of April, Russian naval vessels joined the party in the North Atlantic: they appeared to be co-operating with the NATO ships, covering the mouth of the Barents Sea. At one stage a message between two Russian vessels was intercepted by one of the others, and I was later told that the message said: “ We are engaging unknown underwater craft”.

The unusual activities in the area did not completely escape the attention of the rest of the world. On 16th. April a British newspaper carried the headline ‘ Joint American and Russian Military Exercises About To Take Place’. The report said that for the first time since World War 11, American and Russian troops were working together. The exercise was said to be taking place in Siberia, with US troops being shipped in to Tiksi. Interestingly , Tiksi is the nearest Russian port to the area where naval operations were taking place.

I later learned from a highly placed American source that at this time a team of ‘ remote viewers’, working for the US Defence Department, were asked to assist in trying to find the missing warship. Remote viewing involves using gifted psychics who can travel in their mind to a distant location and describe what they see. The use of psychics by the US Government is highly controversial, and was kept secret for a long time, but it is now well known that they were used in the Gulf War, and at other times. When asked to find the warship the psychics said that it was a Sea Shadow, a newly developed ‘ stealth ship’ and had been towing a barge loaded with advanced surveillance equipment to monitor underwater mining operations carried out by aliens. It had suddenly disappeared, but they could shed no light on how. The idea that the aliens could be mining the area makes sense: there are known deposits of naturally radioactive material in this inhospitable area.

From this sequence of events, it was clear to me that something serious was happening in Icelandic waters, and I began to make more enquiries and collate more reports from other independent sources. A very close and reliable friend with extensive contacts in Iceland because of his professional links, helped me to establish contact with several fishermen, who now report direct the strange things they see. I only hear from them occasionally nowadays: they are so familiar with large black triangles, as big as football pitches speeding under the water, with coloured lights around them, that they no longer regard a sighting of one of these as worthy of report. Yet they know they are observing something very strange: these are seasoned sailors, working in difficult waters, where they have over the years, become familiar with Russian and UN submarine patrols.

I also have a good source in Icelandic Airlines, who has continued to feed me information about UFOs. Sighted in the air. There have been since 1993, been a couple of serious panics when strange objects appear to have attached themselves to planes. One pilot apparently nearly ditched in the sea as he tried to shake off two of them, one on each wing. Whatever manoeuvre he attempted, they stuck with him.

[judge360]

As I Mentioned in my OP That Christopher Columbus Had Reported Strange Lights In The Seas.

Here's One Of Christopher Columbus's Logs Dated 10-11-1492

Christopher Columbus: Extracts from Journal


Thursday, 11 October. Steered west-southwest; and encountered a heavier sea than they had met with before in the whole voyage. Saw pardelas and a green rush near the vessel. The crew of the Pinta saw a cane and a log; they also picked up a stick which appeared to have been carved with an iron tool, a piece of cane, a plant which grows on land, and a board. The crew of the Nina saw other signs of land, and a stalk loaded with rose berries. These signs encouraged them, and they all grew cheerful. Sailed this day till sunset, twenty-seven leagues.


After sunset steered their original course west and sailed twelve miles an hour till two hours after midnight, going ninety miles, which are twenty-two leagues and a half; and as the Pinta was the swiftest sailer, and kept ahead of the Admiral, she discovered land and made the signals which had been ordered. The land was first seen by a sailor called Rodrigo de Triana, although the Admiral at ten o'clock that evening standing on the quarter-deck saw a light, but so small a body that he could not affirm it to be land; calling to Pero Gutierrez, groom of the King's wardrobe, he told him he saw a light, and bid him look that way, which he did and saw it; he did the same to Rodrigo Sanchez of Segovia, whom the King and Queen had sent with the squadron as comptroller, but he was unable to see it from his situation. The Admiral again perceived it once or twice, appearing like the light of a wax candle moving up and down, which some thought an indication of land. But the Admiral held it for certain that land was near; for which reason, after they had said the Salve, which the seamen are accustomed to repeat and chant after their fashion, the Admiral directed them to keep a strict watch upon the forecastle and look out diligently for land, and to him who should first discover it, he promised a silken jacket, besides the reward which the King and Queen had offered, which was an annuity of ten thousand maravedis. At two o'clock in the morning the land was discovered, at two leagues' distance; they took in sail and remained under the square-sail lying to till day, which was Friday, when they found themselves near a small island, one of the Lucayos, called in the Indian language Guanahani.
This reference: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/columbusl.html

[judge360]

Originally Posted by majestic1

This photo was taken in 1971 over Lake Cote in Costa Rica from an aircraft 10,000 miles up during a cartography survey, its appears to show a metallic disc entering or leaving the lake.

Do you know if the photo's been analyzed by experts And proven to be genuine?

It Looks fake but i could be wrong

Very interesting pic none the less

[majestic1]

The photo is from Timothy Good's book 'Unearthly Disclosure' which he claims has undergone scientific studies which ruled out conventional explanations.

Heres some more info about the pic :

This is an impressive photo, and it's already been analyzed in several parts of the world. I quote from the latest report by researchers Richard Haines and Jacques Valle:

"In summary, our analyses have suggested that an unidentified, opaque, aerial object was captured on film at a maximum distance of 10,000 feet. There are no visible means of lift or propulsion and no surface markings other than dark regions that appear to be nonrandom... There is no indication that the image is the product of a double exposure or a deliberate fabrication." [Haines, and Vallee, 1989].

A high resolution camera was mounted on the plane pointing downwards, and programmed to take photographs of the terrain below every 17 seconds. It shows in extraordinary detail all features of the landscape (water, shoreline, trees, etc.) and you'll notice how it was determined that the object (about 600+ ft. or 200 meters in diameter was coming into the water from right to left at an angle of approximately 30° in relation to the surface of the water. The area covered is approximately 7 miles across.

Heres is the full photo :



There has also been many eye witness reports from locals and fisherman of craft entering and leaving Lake Cote.

[judge360]

Thanks for the info majestic1 appreciated.

Timothy Goods well Respected Researcher.

[cluas]

Good post, and welcome to the forums

[manxboz]

Here is something I have found on bibliotecapleyades.net

Enjoy

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...gobjects23.htm

[king triad]

Just think of the advanced technology of a ship that can fly in space then go underwater like a submarine...just amazing I am in awe.