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Old 18-09-2017, 01:28 PM   #41
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Vince Cable was saying yesterday he could become the PM if there is another Brexit vote.

He could be right.

May is toast. Boris Johnson is like a shark circling it's pray. Corbyn thinks he will get the job by default.

It's gonna get messy.
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Old 23-09-2017, 07:41 PM   #42
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Theresa May's European Policy

MATTHEW JAMISON | 22.09.2017 | WORLD

https://www.strategic-culture.org

Theresa May has now carried out her third transformation on the subject of Brexit in the space of 16 months going from an invisible Remainer to a hard Brexiter to now back to her original position of a Remainer looking for a Soft Brexit. Will the real Theresa May please stand up?

These are questions only the UK Government front lady Theresa May (and more saliently her powerful patrons within the post-1945 Euro-Atlantic-Japanese community such as her close advisor the Director-General of RUSI and CIA Envoy Dr. Karin Von Hippel) can answer. Answer they must. Unfortunately the performance of Theresa May as British prime minister over the last 14 months or so, has been to put it mildly, deeply unimpressive, if not dire, simply dire. A lot of it has to do with some very powerful people from the United States, Europe and Japan who are in reality the power behind Theresa May, who are the forces pulling Mrs. May's strings, controlling the Maybot and writing the script for her when it comes to international relations (which Mrs. May knows little about as is the case with most of her deeply provincial and deeply insular home counties home affairs advisors) but with her Conservative Party "mentor" the former Leader whom she served under and previous Foreign Secretary in the Cameron Government now (Lord) William Hague guiding her on world affairs every step of the way along with Lord Hague's RUSI colleague Karin Von Hippel and Lord Hague's extremely close personal, political and financial "partner" Alan Duncan who currently serves in Theresa May's Government as Deputy Foreign Secretary, who conveniently lives next door to William Hague on Gayfere Street and funnily enough had a massive crush for some bizarre reason on Philip May while they were all involved in the Oxford Union and OUCA. Their very own Manchurian candidate.

These people got her the job of Prime Minister in the traumatic and shocking aftermath of the decision by the UK to Exit the EU. This occurred because the Cameron Notting Hill-Bullingdon Club upper-middle class public school educated wing of the Tory Party fractured and factionalised regarding the issue of an EU Referendum and the subsequent line the Conservative Party would take. There was quite simply no one else of any calibre to put forward as the representative of this metropolitan "socially liberal modernizing" group and Lord Hague and co saw an opportunity to settle some old scores from the days of his failed miserable leadership of the Tory Party by effectively taking out members of a former enemy camp. In fact, in the most pathetic and childish fashion there has been quite a lot of ridiculous point scoring and score settling going on within the weird tribe that is known as the Tory Party and it is appalling to witness. Theresa May is simply not a Leader no matter how hard her image makers tried to present her as the new Margaret Thatcher. This was one of the reasons why she was selected.

The powers that be knew and had calculated precisely she would be easily manipulated, easily programmed, easily controlled because she is way out of her depth intellectually. Which is another sad truth about the current British prime minister. No one at Oxford or anyone who has ever dealt with her comes away with the impression of a deep, erudite and complex thinker so it is one of the greatest insults I can think of to compare a Titan like Margaret Thatcher to a pygmy like Theresa May. Mrs. Thatcher would be appalled at how Theresa May has handled the decision of a majority of the UK electorate to exit the European Union. Absolutely appalled. So, for that matter I have a suspicion Sir Winston Churchill would be too.
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Old 25-09-2017, 03:33 PM   #43
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Simon Schama has said on Twitter 'Hard Brexit dead, democracy alive and kicking, a great thing.

Schama is a EU bastard
Democracy what fucking democracy?
Looks like they have fucked us over, total bollocks!
We will never leave the EU never!
Bastards;
Well Jeremy Corbyn yesterday expressed reservations about staying in the Single Market. He and his supporters also infuriated Remainers in the Labour Party by preventing a vote on it at the Members' Ballot yesterday. Corbyn is a Brexiteer at heart. This is because left-wing Brexiteers (they do exist and there were many more of them in the past) see the EU as a bastion of global capitalism. Much of what Corbyn would like to do if he were prime minister would be illegal under EU law. For example, if a Corbyn-led government tried to nationalise the railways, EU legislation allows private companies to sue the government for billions.
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Old 03-10-2017, 09:25 AM   #44
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Old 19-10-2017, 08:10 AM   #45
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Hard Brexit countdown.

https://www.davidicke.com/article/43...commons-revolt

Catch-22

Allowing Labour back into government would be far more damaging than any hard Brexit.
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Old 19-10-2017, 11:25 AM   #46
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Schama was born in Marylebone, London.[1][3] His mother, Gertie (née Steinberg), was from an Ashkenazi Jewish family (from Kaunas, present-day Lithuania), and his father, Arthur Schama, was of Sephardi Jewish background (from Smyrna, present-day ?zmir in Turkey), later moving through Moldova and Romania.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Schama
Smyrna was one of the old worlds administrative and banking sectors of which there were seven, the same seven golden candlesticks mentioned in the bible, these were known as Tamons, and where we get the word Temple from today.

These leviathons of gold and commerce are still with us today and their family lines are well rehearsed and in the know, when new coinage was introduced there would be huge celebrations as the head on the coin was venerated in memes of celestial grandure, IE, Venus etc..

I agree with a poster earlier on in the thread, That Farage knows which side his bread is buttered and I will say this, his his demeanor says it all, his vigour has diminished of late and he will be retired long before the EU is up and running as a single voice. Pieter Brugel and his motto of his painting of the Tower of Baybel is correct and John Dees long term bussiness plan is nearing its final stage.

What did Breugel say, "Many Tonges one Voice"
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Old 14-11-2017, 02:27 PM   #47
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The sound of several Tory mps getting a "damn sound thrashing" echoed along the corridors of power today.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...t-date-brutal/
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Old 15-11-2017, 01:58 PM   #48
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Every day now it seems there is a scandal and it puts Theresa May under pressure, the same thing happened when they forced John Major out of power.

Johnson and Gove are still waiting for May to resign and so far she's resisting.

Corbyn has been fairly quiet lately, probably just biding his time and planning all the tax rises he has planned for everyone.

Vince Cable seems to have vanished off the face of the planet. He might well have popped out to buy a new hat, but he's not been banging the drum on the MSM for quite a while.

I still think there will be an election soon, within the next 6 months, that's how TPTB will make sure Brexit doesn't happen.
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Old 16-11-2017, 05:30 PM   #49
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This was predictable from the day of the vote and demonstrates the gulf between politicians, business leaders and the electorate across the EU.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...laf-Henkel-BDI

Any weakening and the Tory government will collapse.

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Old 16-11-2017, 06:54 PM   #50
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2 more things happened today regarding Brexit.

Firsty, the top guy at Goldman Sachs tweeted saying that the UK should have a second referendum.

Second, Michel Barnier has allowed his people to leak papers showing that the EU would only allow the UK the same trade deal as Canada and nothing more.

So the pieces of the puzzle are starting to be put together and it looks like we can sell out to the USA and accept bleached chicken, or cancel article 50 and stay part of the EU.

Just like the Irish, we will get a second vote as we voted wrong the first time.

We will probably get rid of May and her evil government.
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Old 16-11-2017, 07:18 PM   #51
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It'll never happen, Brexit.

The Queen ratified The Lisbon Treaty in 2008.

Ending UK Sovereignty, ability to create LAW and govern ourselves, on the 1st January 2009.

The UK had 5 years to hold a referendum whether or not to remain or leave.

The Lisbon Treaty superseded The EU Constitution. Long and short of this is ALL the powers that member states hold, what little they have, are transferred to a centralised unelected lobby in Brussels.

Either;

Another vote will be wangled in either by a parliamentry financial scandal

OR

Huge terrorist false flag attack.
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Old 16-11-2017, 07:40 PM   #52
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It'll never happen, Brexit.

The Queen ratified The Lisbon Treaty in 2008.

Ending UK Sovereignty, ability to create LAW and govern ourselves, on the 1st January 2009.

The UK had 5 years to hold a referendum whether or not to remain or leave.

The Lisbon Treaty superseded The EU Constitution. Long and short of this is ALL the powers that member states hold, what little they have, are transferred to a centralised unelected lobby in Brussels.

Either;

Another vote will be wangled in either by a parliamentry financial scandal

OR

Huge terrorist false flag attack.
I totally agree with you.

Labour promised a referendum on Lisbon, then went back on their word, they knew people would reject it.

Project fear has been running flat out by the EU and all the other nations around the world to nudge the UK to stay in the EU. The only nation that wants a trade deal with us is the USA, and that would be a 1 way deal and mean us selling off the NHS.
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Ask yourself how many of these goals are currently in effect in the UK ?

The name may have changed, but the movement has not. Anyone with even a fleeting recollection of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion will recognize you are dealing with the same group and the same goals.

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Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

22 Key Goals Of Zionist Communist Bolshevism In America

1. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

2. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

3. Gain control of all student newspapers.

4. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

7. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."


8. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

9. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

10. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

11. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

12. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

13. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

14. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

15. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture."

16. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

17. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

18. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

19. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

20. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

21. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

22. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use "united force" to solve economic, political or social problems.
from http://www.rense.com/general96/commgoals.html

these ''people'' are international , and countries which have lived under Communism in any of it's forms will recognize what is happening with the E.U , North America and all nations described as west.
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That list is spot on apart from the comments about US history and the founding fathers, that's not taught at all in the UK.
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18. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
Social Services , secret family courts etc

Behavioral problems as a result of big pharma too many vaccinations / chemicals in food chain then diagnose ADHD , oppositional defiance disorder and give more meds to further the drug dependency / downturn in learning and positive outcomes after teen years

the list is very relevant to what you can see happening today no doubts at all

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No it isn't , but what is being done is Universities removing historical references to who and what made the UK what it is / was

they will also , on purpose do kamikaze missions into societies and establishments with the express purpose of being caught and making a mockery of everything associated with them

the idea fits exactly the mission of causing such a massively failing society so as to be able to offer the solution

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Old 18-11-2017, 12:49 PM   #56
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Just not good enough!


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8054841.html



I'm reminded of the old story of the grandmaster in a chess competition who made his move, tapped the button to set his opponents time running, then ran off out of the hall clutching the ticking clock.


Nothing in the rules prevented him from doing this and his opponent lost the game by running out of time.
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Divorce from the EU getting to the 'messy' stage.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ransition.html

Virtually anyone in the EU can veto any deal and the UK are prevented from negotiating with individual countries.

Exit first then come back and start talking.
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Divorce from the EU getting to the 'messy' stage.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ransition.html

Virtually anyone in the EU can veto any deal and the UK are prevented from negotiating with individual countries.

Exit first then come back and start talking.
No doubt they are making "progress"
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More nonsense and time wasting.

https://www.davidicke.com/article/43...-uk-law-brexit


Once exit is achieved the opposition parties for whom human rights and the rights are workers are important can stand against the government in the next elections and make the changes necessary independent of the EU if they win.

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Weeding out the 'closet' remainers.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...xit-bill-vote/



After Christmas elements of the Royal Engineers and RAF will be sent in to "neutralize" any stay behind remainer parties

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