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Old 22-01-2016, 11:40 AM   #41
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Your pic is of the Beatles, and the first person of the top left of the Sgt. Pepper's cover is Sri Yukteswar (next to Crowley), author of the Holy Science, which is about the binary star system. Do you know anything about this or how it interacts with this Planet X stuff?
Interesting thanks, I didn't know this
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Old 22-01-2016, 01:35 PM   #42
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You can search Laura Knight-Jadczyk site and easily find that she got a message in 1994 that we lived in a double star system. The other star has 3% of the mass of the Sun and is a brown dwarf. This is what probably has just been discovered.
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Old 22-01-2016, 01:41 PM   #43
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Don't get exited. It's not confirmed yet. You'll remember we've been here before. Nevertheless, but an interesting possibility.

Doesn't seem to fit the required attributes of Nibiru/Planet-X, so beloved of the alternative media.

It will be interesting - if a reality - what its orbit turns out to be. But I want to know if there's the chance that its orbit is so elongated that the perihelion brings it to the inner solar system? Even if it does, the extremely extended orbital period in the very furthest and coldest reaches of the solar system rather rules out life - as we know it!

(Yes, I dare say NASA knows all this stuff already - or not!)

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But doesn't nibiru have a 3500 year orbit whereas this new planet may have an orbit of 10,000 years?
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Old 22-01-2016, 01:43 PM   #44
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You can search Laura Knight-Jadczyk site and easily find that she got a message in 1994 that we lived in a double star system. The other star has 3% of the mass of the Sun and is a brown dwarf. This is what probably has just been discovered.
But wouldn't that make it at least as big as Jupiter?

It would be odd for such a large object to remain hidden for so long considering Jupiter is around 1000 times larger than earth
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Zecharia Sitchin was right.
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Old 22-01-2016, 03:38 PM   #46
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'Scientists Find Evidence for Ninth Planet in Solar System'

The world, if it exists, would join the other eight (or nine, depending how you feel about Pluto).

By Nadia Drake
PUBLISHED JANUARY 20, 2016

'A planet larger than Earth could be hiding in the cold, dark depths of the solar system. The presence of the planet, which would lie far beyond Pluto, is betrayed by the curious orbits of a handful of distant icy worlds.

As described Wednesday in the Astronomical Journal, the gravitational signature (??) of a large, lurking planet is written into the peculiar orbits of these farflung worlds. Called extreme Kuiper Belt Objects, the misbehaving bodies trace odd circles around the sun that have puzzled scientists for years.

It’s tantalizing evidence that a ninth large planet might live in the solar system, though the world hasn’t been detected yet.

“If there’s going to be another planet in the solar system, I think this is it,” says Greg Laughlin of the University of California, Santa Cruz. “It would be quite extraordinary if we had one. Fingers crossed. It would be amazing.” .... Read it?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2...-system-space/

Comment @ link 'It looks like Zacharia Sitchin was correct in his thesis that the Ananaki once visited earth from Planet X Niburu - the 9th planet. Maybe now you doubters will come to believe and watch for the return of our ancestors that we mistook as gods. Ancient Alien Theory dudes! :-) I wonder how long it will be before they come into view?'

Hummm .... getting us primed for the fake alien invasion so as to bring the world together under one god, one religion and one bank? haha

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Zecharia Sitchin was right.
But was he. There could be more planets out there. Didn't he claim that the orbit of nibiru brought it close to earth?
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'Scientists Find Evidence for Ninth Planet in Solar System'

The world, if it exists, would join the other eight (or nine, depending how you feel about Pluto).

By Nadia Drake
PUBLISHED JANUARY 20, 2016

'A planet larger than Earth could be hiding in the cold, dark depths of the solar system. The presence of the planet, which would lie far beyond Pluto, is betrayed by the curious orbits of a handful of distant icy worlds.

As described Wednesday in the Astronomical Journal, the gravitational signature (??) of a large, lurking planet is written into the peculiar orbits of these farflung worlds. Called extreme Kuiper Belt Objects, the misbehaving bodies trace odd circles around the sun that have puzzled scientists for years.

It’s tantalizing evidence that a ninth large planet might live in the solar system, though the world hasn’t been detected yet.

“If there’s going to be another planet in the solar system, I think this is it,” says Greg Laughlin of the University of California, Santa Cruz. “It would be quite extraordinary if we had one. Fingers crossed. It would be amazing.” .... Read it?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2...-system-space/

Comment @ link 'It looks like Zacharia Sitchin was correct in his thesis that the Ananaki once visited earth from Planet X Niburu - the 9th planet. Maybe now you doubters will come to believe and watch for the return of our ancestors that we mistook as gods. Ancient Alien Theory dudes! :-) I wonder how long it will be before they come into view?'

Hummm .... getting us primed for the fake alien invasion so as to bring the world together under one god, one religion and one bank? haha

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Considering its reckoned to be 20 times further away than Neptune it must be some distance away. They have managed to pick up small planetoids beyond pluto but the distance might mean its hard to detect. Maybe hubble could spot it

As for sitchin being right, I doubt it. Why would such a race be located so far from the sun when they could have just settled mars and been within easy travelling distance? we have barely started to go there ourselves so its not like the close proximity would be a problem

I think the people who hope that its nibiru are going to be disappointed. As for one religion, nobody really pushes religion nowadays and the average person thinks its a loads of rubbish. My own opinion is that if we are ever to become a space exploring race we would have to be united as a planet in order to share resources to make such achievements.

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Old 22-01-2016, 08:25 PM   #49
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so they might be on the verge of discovering it again, well done

A coincidence of course ... 2016 -1983 = 33
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A coincidence of course ... 2016 -1983 = 33
And another 33 years earlier - in 1950 - was planet X mentioned for the first time. Could it possibly be that his sun cycle is 3666 years?


http://yowusa.com/planetx/2012/planetx-2012-03a/1.shtml

In 1950, Immanuel Velikovsky published his ground-breaking work,Worlds in Collision. The hateful scientific attacks upon him were crushing, yet, his book was found open on Einstein's desk after his death.

This suppression was aimed not just at Velikovsky. It was aimed at the kind of knowledge that naturally flows out from what is certainly, one of the most challenging books in the history of science. If was in the midst of this scientific pogrom, that the Planet X story truly began.

On December 30th, 1983, NASA's Chief Scientist of the Infra-Red Astronomical Satellite telescope (IRAS) announced that NASA had discovered Planet X. 

Just one week after the story of Planet X was released, the magazine US News and World Report ran a story retracting the announcement and NASA has been silent ever since.

That didn’t stop Dr. Robert S. Harrington who was the chief astronomer of the US Naval Observatory until his mysterious death in 1993.

By analyzing an extensive amount of publications relating to Planet X, in chronological order, not only does the cover up of Planet X become extraordinary, but one gains a unique perspective of the evolution of the Planet X discovery.

The following is a comprehensive collection of excerpts from Planet X articles dating back to the 1950’s. Pay close attention to the tone of each article as the theories progress.

 

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In 1988 dr. R.S. Harrington and P.K. Seidelmann published the following articles :

https://crashrecovery.org/the-locati...88-v96-no4.pdf
https://crashrecovery.org/planet-x-t...cs-1988-43.pdf

Harrington then dies under strange circumstances, Charles E. Worley wrote the following testimony :

https://crashrecovery.org/rsharrington.pdf

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In 1988 dr. R.S. Harrington and P.K. Seidelmann published the following articles :

https://crashrecovery.org/the-locati...88-v96-no4.pdf
https://crashrecovery.org/planet-x-t...cs-1988-43.pdf

Harrington then dies under strange circumstances, Charles E. Worley wrote the following testimony :

https://crashrecovery.org/rsharrington.pdf

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Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel (July 22, 1784 - March 17, 1846)
http://messier.seds.org/xtra/Bios/bessel.html

"Wilhelm Bessel was born in Minden on July 22, 1784 as the son of Carl
Friedrich Bessel, a government secretary, and his wife Friederike
Ernestine (b. Schrader), daughter of a pastor from Rehme, as one of 9
children (3 sons, 6 daughters); the family originated from the
Calenberg village near Hannover. After getting school education in
Minden, he went to Bremen in January 1799 at age 14, to work in
import-export business for the Andreas Kuhlenkamp company, with a
contract for a 7-year apprenticeship. During this time, besides his
business activities, he trained himself the skills necessary to
undertake naval overseas voyages: First geography, Spanish and English,
then navigation, astronomy and mathematics; he took a course in
navigation in 1801. Astronomy finally caught his interest.

In 1804, he contacted Wilhelm Olbers (1758-1840) concerning a paper he
had written on comet Halley, using data from observations made by
Harriot in 1607. Olbers advised him to elaborate this work further, and
it was finally published. On Olbers suggestion, Bessel accepted a post
at Lilienthal Observatory, a private observatory near Bremen, owned by
Johann Hieronymus Schroeter (1745-1816) in 1806. There he did
observational work on comets and planets, in particular planet Saturn
and its moons and the newly discovered asteroids Ceres, Juno and Vesta,
studied atmospheric refraction, and started to re-investigate
astrometric observations of Bradley (1692-1762).

In 1809, Bessel was appointed director of King Frederick William III of
Prussia's new Königsberg Observatory, and as professor of astronomy at
Albertus University in Königsberg, positions he should keep for the
rest of his life. Bessel arrived in May, 1810, lectures started in
summer, 1810, and the observatory was completed in 1813. In 1812, he
was elected to the Berlin Academy of Sciences.

Also in 1812, Bessel married Johanna Hagen (1794-1885); they had one
son, Wilhelm (1814-1840) and three daughters (Marie, 1816-1902;
Elisabeth, 1820-1913; and Johanna).

The first instrumentaion of the Königsberg Observatory was purchased
from the estate of amateur astronomer Friedrich von Hahn (1742-1805).
In 1819, a meridian circle from Reichenbach was added, in 1829, a
Heliometer built by Fraunhofer, an instrument suitable for very acurate
position measurements, and in 1841, a meridian circle from Repsold.

During 36 years, Bessel was busily doing astronomical work in
Königsberg, including very fundamental achievements, the most prominent
being the first successful determination of a stellar parallax and
distance. His students include F.W.A. Argelander, Carl August Steinheil
and Heinrich Schlüter. Besides these activities, he was ordered to
undertake a geodetical survey of East Prussia ("Ostpreussische
Gradmessungen"); this work was performed together with J.J. Baeyer in
1831-1832, theoretically evaluated, and published in 1938. From the
differences between geodetical and astronomical coordinates, Bessel
derived the figure of Earth as an oblated spheroid with ellipticity
1/299.15 (Bessel Normal Ellipsoid). In 1939, his physical studies led
to the introduction of a new Prussian measurement system.

Bessel also contributed significantly to mathematics and invented the
so-called Bessel functions (also called cylindrical functions) in 1824,
and to physics (potential theory, second pendulum).

Bessel suffered a severe loss when his son Wilhelm died in 1840 at age
27. In 1842, Bessel travelled to England and France, accompanied by his
daughter Elisabeth, and visited several scientific convents and
institutions. He died in Königsberg on March 17, 1846 at age 62 from a
long mysterious disease which we now know was probably intestine cancer.

Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel was honored during his lifetime by academy
memberships; besides Berlin, in Palermo, Petersburg and Stockholm, by
memberships in the scientific societies of Edinburgh, Goettingen,
Kopenhagen and London, the British Royal Astronomical and the Royal
Meteorological Societies. Later, he was honored by the astronomical
community by naming a moon crater after him (21.8N, 17.9E, 15.0 km
diameter, in 1935). Asteroid (1552) Bessel was discovered on February
24, 1938 in Turku by Y. Vaisala; it had been provisionally designated
1938 DE1 and (from later independent findings) 1948 EH and 1951 UF.

Bessel's Contributions to Astronomy

Bessel's scientific works have been counted at 399 (Engelmann 1875-76).
His contributions cover most of his contemporary astronomy; his
particular issue was precision measurements.

His early works in Lilienthal include observations of comets,
asteroids, planets, occultations and eclipses, as well as atmospheric
effects and instrumental studies; most of them were published in Johann
Bode's Berliner Astronomisches Jahrbuch.

His first major work in Königsberg was a reduction of Bradley's
astrometric observations to a fixed date, 1755; this work was published
in 1818 as "Fundamentae Astronomiae pro Anno MDCCLV deducta ex
Observationibus viri incomparabilis James Bradley" (Foundations of
Astronomy for the year 1755, deduced from the Observations of the
incomparable man, James Bradley). This Latin-language work contained
the reduced positions of 3,222 stars together with a complete theory of
spherical astronomy and data reduction. Bessel extracted a list of 71
stars with notable proper motion.

With the new Reichenbach meridian circle, Bessel started the project to
determine acurate positions for all stars to the 9th magnitude in the
zone of declinations between +15deg and -15deg, in August, 1921,
together with Argelander. In 1825, the range was extended to +45deg,
and concluded in 1835 with a catalgue of 75,011 stars, organized in 536
zones. Later, Bessel's assistent Argelander continued this work to
create the famous "Bonner Durchmusterung." Also in 1825, Bessel
initiated the endeavour to create an acurate atlas, the "Akademische
Sternkarten" (Academic Star Maps), carried out at various observatories
and finished only in 1859. In 1833, Bessel published a catalog of 38
double stars, measured with the Fraunhofer heliometer.

Bessel was very interested in effects that can impact on acurate
measurements, and studied precession, nutation, aberration and
refraction. His results are summarized in the "Tabulae Regiomontanae
reductionum observationum" (Königsberg Tables for reducing
observations) of 1830; this work also contains the positions of
Maskeleyne's 36 "fundamental stars" and Polaris from 1750 to 1850.
Moreover, in 1821, he discovered the "Personal Equation," the effect of
the observer's personality and circumstances on astrometrical
measurements, and suspected variations of the obliquity of the ecliptic.

He also was concerned on the quality of his instruments, and effects of
instrumental errors on observations, which he thought could be
eliminated by expended data reduction. Engelmann counts 23 articles on
his investigations of astronomical instruments for angular measurements.

Bessel's first contribution to astronomy had been on comet Halley's
1607 apparition, and he always stayed interested in comets, both by
observing and by calculating their orbits; for this purpose, he
improved the orbit calculation methods. Following the return of Comet
Halley in 1835, which he had occasion to observe, Bessel developed the
"Physical Theory of Comets," published 1836, stating that comets are
mainly consisted of volatile matter. In 1839, he proposed methods to
calculate meteoroid orbits from meteor observations.

His continued interest in planetary astronomy caused him to observe the
orbits of the satellites of Jupiter and in particular, Saturn's moon
Titan, with the Fraunhofer heliometer, resulting in acurate
determinations of the masses of planets Jupiter and Saturn. In 1837, he
investigated the disturbation theory of Uranus, and supported the
hypothesis of a further planet. That planet was finally found in the
year of Bessel's death, 1846, and named Neptune.


Bessel was the first to measure and publish a parallax, and calculate
the distance to a star, double star 61 Cygni, from observations during
18 months in 1837 and 1838. Bessel's parallax value of 0.314",
corresponding to a distance of 3.18 parsec or 10.4 light years, is very
close to the modern value of 0.292", corresponding to 3.42 pc (11.2
ly). He had selected 61 Cygni because it had the largest known proper
motion. Concerned ybout the acuracy of his parallax, Bessel
re-determined the parallax of 61 Cyg in 1840, together with Heinrich
Schlüter, yielding a somewhat less acurate value of 0.348",
corresponding to 2.87 pc (9.4 ly). Concurrently, Thomas Henderson
published a parallax for Alpha Centauri in 1839, derived from 1832-33
observations at the Cape of Good Hope, and in 1840, F.W.G. Struve of
Dorpat presented his (less acurate) parallax for Vega from observations
in 1835-1837.

In 1841, Bessel announced that Sirius and Procyon each had an invisible
(to then) companion because of variations in their proper motion. An
orbit for Sirius' companion, Sirius B, was calculated ten years later,
and it was eventually found by Alvan Clark in 1862, Procyon B was not
discovered before 1896, by Schaeberle with the 36-inch telescope of
Lick Observatory. These two remarkable stars were later revealed to be
White Dwarfs.

Links

Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel biography, School of Mathematics and
Statistics, University of St Andrews, Scotland
Bessel, Friedrich Wilhelm, short biography, from Geschichte der
Geophysik, TU Braunschweig (in German)
Bessel-Biographie by F. Schmeidler (in German)
Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel biography (Manfred Holl; in German)

Bessel's Comet Candidate of November 9, 1808

References

Max Dehnen, 1961. Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel, Begründer der
Königsberger Sternwarte. Verlag Gerhard Rautenberg, Leer (Ostfriesland).
Rudolf Engelmann, 1875-76. Abhandlungen von Friedrich Wilhelm
Bessel. Leipzig.
Walter Fricke, 1985. Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel (1784-1846).
Astrophysics and Space Science, Vol. 110, p. 11-19 [ADS:
1985Ap&SS.110...11F]

Kenneth Glyn Jones, 1991. Messier's Nebulae and Star Clusters. 2nd
ed, Cambridge University Press, p. 313.
Jürgen Hamel, 1984. Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel. B.G. Teubner, Leipzig.
Volker Rodenkamp, 1984. Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel, 1784-1846. Sein
Weg zu den Sternen. Mindener Museum, catalog for the exhibition.
Royal Astronomical Society, 1847. Biographical notes on Friedrich
Wilhelm Bessel. Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, Vol.
7, p. 199-214 [ADS: 1847MNRAS...7..199.]
P. van de Kamp, 1985. Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel, 1784 July 22 - 1846
March 17. Astrophysics and Space Science, Vol. 110, p. 103-104 [ADS:
1985Ap&SS.110..103V]

H.C. Vogel, 1905. Newcomb-Engelmann's Populäre Astronomie. Verlag
Wilhelm Engelmann, Leipzig, p. 680-682. "
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Brian Cox has been quite free about showing us Nibiru in his science reports.
Ironic? Laughable? Or showing the sighted?

https://youtu.be/TORZLlUN2GI
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Isn't planet x the sort of name you'd call a planet if you lived in a comic or cartoon????
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Isn't planet x the sort of name you'd call a planet if you lived in a comic or cartoon????
X = Roman numeral 10

so it is really Planet IX now, but that doesn't have the same ring to it

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It is coming people and it will effect your Chakras. Increase in sexuality and losing your emotions.

I have created a video on how Nibiru will effect your body and mind. If you have time, you could watch it.

Indians are expecting the return of gods aka Anunaki this year.

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It is coming people and it will effect your Chakras. Increase in sexuality and losing your emotions.
Oh goooood! I can hardly wait. When will it start working? I've got a hot date later this week...
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