The Westminster Paedophile Ring - Page 2

woodie · 07-07-2014, 10:46 PM

Taken from the Telegraph link

The review by Peter Wanless, which will take eight to 10 weeks, will look at the Home Office's investigation but also how the police and prosecutors handled information handled to them.

The Government will also establish an independent inquiry under an expert panel into handling of child abuse by public bodies, which could be upgraded to a full public inquiry if the panel decides it is needed, Home Secretary Mrs May said.

Smacks of bullshit to me, the review will take 8 to 10 weeks how in gods name do they know how long it is going to take unless this is their plan B.if caught out again.I think the idea someone came up with of doing regional protests at your local council buildings would work plus they would not have the resources to police the whole country.

blue_sun · 07-07-2014, 10:53 PM

Child abuse claims: Paedophile gang 'included 20 ex-MPs'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28203914

There is evidence at least 20 prominent paedophiles - including former MPs and government ministers - abused children for "decades", a former child protection manager has claimed.

Peter McKelvie, whose allegations led initially to a 2012 police inquiry, said a "powerful elite" of paedophiles carried out "the worst form" of abuse.

He said the network extended into both the House of Lords and the Commons.

The government has already announced two reviews into claims of abuse.

Home Secretary Theresa May told the House of Commons the first review would be a wide-ranging inquiry - similar to the inquiry into the Hillsborough disaster - led by an independent panel of experts on law and child protection.

The second review - which is to be led by head of the NSPCC Peter Wanless - would cover how police and prosecutors handled information given to them, she told MPs.

'Worst' abuse

Following the announcements, Mr McKelvie - giving his first television interview for 20 years - told the BBC he believed there was evidence to link a number of former politicians to an alleged paedophile network.

"I would say we are looking at upwards of 20 (people) and a much larger number of people who have known about it and done nothing about it, who were in a position to do something about it," he said.

Mr McKelvie said some of those who were alleged to have abused children had now died.

He told the BBC he had spoken to victims over "many, many years" and that children - "almost exclusively boys" - were moved around like "a lump of meat".

They had been subjected to the "worst form of abuse", including rape, he said.

Mr McKelvie was a child protection manager in Hereford and Worcester and worked on the conviction of paedophile Peter Righton - a former consultant to the National Children's Bureau.

Righton, who is now dead, was also a founding member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), before he was convicted of importing child pornography.

However, Mr McKelvie told the BBC that the evidence discovered in the case went much further than simply Righton.
Letters

Mr McKelvie - who had access to documents relating to paedophile networks linked to the Righton inquiry - said he told police in 2012 there were seven boxes of potential evidence being stored by West Mercia police.

He said the evidence included letters between Righton and other alleged paedophiles.

In 2012, Mr McKelvie took his concerns to Labour MP Tom Watson, who then raised the matter in Parliament, prompting a preliminary police inquiry in 2012 that became a formal inquiry in 2013.

His interview comes after footage emerged of a former Conservative MP suggesting to the BBC in 1995 that party whips might not disclose certain behaviour of colleagues including that "involving small boys."

Tim Fortescue, who was a senior whip in Sir Edward Heath's government from 1970-73, claimed that MPs would "come and ask if we could help and if we could, we did".

Meanwhile, Greater Manchester Police has also said there will be a wider inquiry into allegations of a cover-up involving paedophile abuse at Knowl View residential school - a school linked to the late MP Cyril Smith - in Rochdale in the 1980s and 1990s.

sanusi · 08-07-2014, 12:49 AM

So David Icke was right all along, Would love to see people admit he was right on that one thing.

scottishryan · 08-07-2014, 06:23 AM

I hope every single one of them are caught and hung from London bridge by their knackers!!

misstaken · 08-07-2014, 08:03 AM

I half want to take back the thank you I sent her yesterday, it was sent when she had just begun saying what I had personally asked her to do and change sometime ago, and of course many others have. But it just stinks, there is no way it will be a full enquiry, I mean frick its now 18months since an IPCC investigation that I initiated began and thats taking forever due to the amount of officers involved in being investigated (many not released to press yet) and officers and child services workers delaying interviews and other excuses,, though I do not fully trust the IPCC either, good thing I record everything myself.

So my point is, I know damn well a full enquiry or whatever they're calling it is no way in hell gonna "leave no stone unturned", in that short time.

But I won't take back the thank you because she has done what has been needed fora long time and now children will be protected more, anyone who covers up abuse will face prosecution too, and rape and abuse victims will be treated better and not blamed or ripped apart in court. So those changes are good things to take from it. I did ask to confirm if anyone failing to act on abuse will face charges, I await response.

Wept buckets watching it live, the relief of this finally happening. Corruption needs to end, only we can do it if we stand against it. Commenting and opinions are all well and good but action speaks volumes. Let's end it all

patrick · 08-07-2014, 08:49 AM

I'd take back your thanks! Theresa May is helping to cover this up, that's why the NSPCC are involved - as usual, this is just what I feel, my opinion, backed by nothing more than intuition and common sense! Also, this is all a bit of a smokescreen, because it is looking at what happened decades ago and not at what is happening today. Distract us with the past and we won't look at the present.

misstaken · 08-07-2014, 09:03 AM

No that's what I mean, what is happening now is finally about to change. Cover ups and corruption going on now is being exposed the world over, I'm in touch with other whistleblowers around the world doing this too. But on the subject of people who know about child abuse and who don't report it, or police and child services, teachers etc who don't act on reports made to them facing prosecution, thats amazing and will save many more children because these cowardly cunts who would previously have done so will have no reason to protect the cunts they're protecting and for once protect the child/children in danger, though I still highly doubt those complicite in abuse would come forward and report dangerous paedophiles theyre associated with which is why in my experience many many knew (have evidence of this and another DI forum poster posted on one of my threads about the others involved too, have printed that off for my barrister so thanks to them for backing up what I'd said on others involved too btw), but only I reported. Cowards will always protect their own ass

dark86 · 08-07-2014, 09:17 AM

Wanless has been:

1. The boss of a lottery business.
2. A government civil servant.
3. The Chief Executive Officer of the NSPCC.

Wanless lives in the Sevenoaks area, which is historically connected to MI5 and MI6.

evilc · 08-07-2014, 10:19 AM

i`d like to suggest this thread belongs at the top of the news page. Sticky aside the Saville thread. This is the last time I`ll suggest it I don`t want to stir things up away from the main issue.

There are so many threads over the pages that I have trouble reading them . My eyesight is shocking.

i_am · 08-07-2014, 10:38 AM

This thread is in the right place

evilc · 08-07-2014, 04:28 PM

Not discussing moderation but No one is posting anything on this thread at all are they?. Dozens of Westminster Child sexual Abuse posts on the news site. ( This post is simply for the benefit of any new visitors to the site)

swamideva · 08-07-2014, 06:06 PM

Paedo MP cover-up claim: Top cop removed from sex abuse probe after naming politicians as suspects

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swamideva · 08-07-2014, 06:08 PM

Petition

We demand members of the public are included on the Child Abuse investigation panel to ensure; "Complete confidence in the integrity of the investigation"

swamideva · 08-07-2014, 06:14 PM

Its a start but not enough

Government launches two inquiries into Westminster child sex scandal... neither led by judge

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fairyprincess · 08-07-2014, 06:19 PM

I does me good to hear the news use the word "conspiracy"..... it makes it harder for the pados to wriggle away....

pinkizzy · 08-07-2014, 07:13 PM

This thread is great as it is, i hate wading through pages and pages of a long thread

swamideva · 08-07-2014, 07:50 PM

Whitewash???

Lady Butler-Sloss to lead child abuse inquiry
Retired judge chaired Cleveland abuse inquiry in the late 1980s and was praised for her even-handed approach

Butler Sloss apologises for making false allegations that she received death threats from f4j

DIY Stores nationwide have reported that there has been
a massive run of purchases of whitewash, by men in grey suits,
all of whom waved a copy of the Official Secrets Act at any
checkout staff, who asked for a delivery address !

diamond dogs · 08-07-2014, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark86

Wanless has been:

1. The boss of a lottery business.
2. A government civil servant.
3. The Chief Executive Officer of the NSPCC.

Wanless lives in the Sevenoaks area, which is historically connected to MI5 and MI6.

Good stuff..

He was awarded the Companion of the Order of the Bath (CB) in the 2007 New Year's Honours List for
distinguished public service. (Oh dear)

It has to be linked to the scum security services as always..that's where the mass protests need to be...

essnumerology · 08-07-2014, 09:24 PM

http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/201....html?spref=tw

Quote;

"Do they think the British public are compliant idiots. By appointing Butler-Sloss knowing her brother was also responisble for burying the Dickens Dossiers and the Elm Guest House investigation they are putting up two fingers to the British People. They are also giving insider elite paedophiles the big green light."

Madness...

The inquiry needs to be completely independent.

evilc · 08-07-2014, 10:07 PM

I sensed a lot of squirming from a certain BBC Television Host when commenting on the case this AM so I did a search this eve and surprise surprise this so called journo was schooled at Eton.

08-07-2014, 06:23 AM	#24
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08-07-2014, 08:03 AM	#25
misstaken Inactive Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 123 Likes: 0 (0 Posts)	8-10weeks! I half want to take back the thank you I sent her yesterday, it was sent when she had just begun saying what I had personally asked her to do and change sometime ago, and of course many others have. But it just stinks, there is no way it will be a full enquiry, I mean frick its now 18months since an IPCC investigation that I initiated began and thats taking forever due to the amount of officers involved in being investigated (many not released to press yet) and officers and child services workers delaying interviews and other excuses,, though I do not fully trust the IPCC either, good thing I record everything myself. So my point is, I know damn well a full enquiry or whatever they're calling it is no way in hell gonna "leave no stone unturned", in that short time. But I won't take back the thank you because she has done what has been needed fora long time and now children will be protected more, anyone who covers up abuse will face prosecution too, and rape and abuse victims will be treated better and not blamed or ripped apart in court. So those changes are good things to take from it. I did ask to confirm if anyone failing to act on abuse will face charges, I await response. Wept buckets watching it live, the relief of this finally happening. Corruption needs to end, only we can do it if we stand against it. Commenting and opinions are all well and good but action speaks volumes. Let's end it all Last edited by misstaken; 08-07-2014 at 08:22 AM. Reason: stupid phone wrong letters

08-07-2014, 09:03 AM	#27
misstaken Inactive Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 123 Likes: 0 (0 Posts)	No that's what I mean, what is happening now is finally about to change. Cover ups and corruption going on now is being exposed the world over, I'm in touch with other whistleblowers around the world doing this too. But on the subject of people who know about child abuse and who don't report it, or police and child services, teachers etc who don't act on reports made to them facing prosecution, thats amazing and will save many more children because these cowardly cunts who would previously have done so will have no reason to protect the cunts they're protecting and for once protect the child/children in danger, though I still highly doubt those complicite in abuse would come forward and report dangerous paedophiles theyre associated with which is why in my experience many many knew (have evidence of this and another DI forum poster posted on one of my threads about the others involved too, have printed that off for my barrister so thanks to them for backing up what I'd said on others involved too btw), but only I reported. Cowards will always protect their own ass Last edited by misstaken; 08-07-2014 at 09:37 AM.

08-07-2014, 09:17 AM	#28
dark86 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: where i feel like it :-) Posts: 739 Likes: 0 (0 Posts)	Wanless has been: 1. The boss of a lottery business. 2. A government civil servant. 3. The Chief Executive Officer of the NSPCC. Wanless lives in the Sevenoaks area, which is historically connected to MI5 and MI6. __________________ When technology surpasses a civilization's spiritual wisdom, it is almost inevitable that its destruction will ensue http://www.waykiwayki.com

08-07-2014, 10:38 AM	#30
i_am Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 37,018 Likes: 1,300 (633 Posts)	This thread is in the right place Last edited by i_am; 08-07-2014 at 10:38 AM.

07-07-2014, 10:46 PM	#21
woodie Inactive Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Tipi valley Posts: 349 Likes: 0 (0 Posts)	Taken from the Telegraph link The review by Peter Wanless, which will take eight to 10 weeks, will look at the Home Office's investigation but also how the police and prosecutors handled information handled to them. The Government will also establish an independent inquiry under an expert panel into handling of child abuse by public bodies, which could be upgraded to a full public inquiry if the panel decides it is needed, Home Secretary Mrs May said. Smacks of bullshit to me, the review will take 8 to 10 weeks how in gods name do they know how long it is going to take unless this is their plan B.if caught out again.I think the idea someone came up with of doing regional protests at your local council buildings would work plus they would not have the resources to police the whole country.

07-07-2014, 10:53 PM	#22
blue_sun Inactive Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 168 Likes: 0 (0 Posts)	Child abuse claims: Paedophile gang 'included 20 ex-MPs' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28203914 There is evidence at least 20 prominent paedophiles - including former MPs and government ministers - abused children for "decades", a former child protection manager has claimed. Peter McKelvie, whose allegations led initially to a 2012 police inquiry, said a "powerful elite" of paedophiles carried out "the worst form" of abuse. He said the network extended into both the House of Lords and the Commons. The government has already announced two reviews into claims of abuse. Home Secretary Theresa May told the House of Commons the first review would be a wide-ranging inquiry - similar to the inquiry into the Hillsborough disaster - led by an independent panel of experts on law and child protection. The second review - which is to be led by head of the NSPCC Peter Wanless - would cover how police and prosecutors handled information given to them, she told MPs. 'Worst' abuse Following the announcements, Mr McKelvie - giving his first television interview for 20 years - told the BBC he believed there was evidence to link a number of former politicians to an alleged paedophile network. "I would say we are looking at upwards of 20 (people) and a much larger number of people who have known about it and done nothing about it, who were in a position to do something about it," he said. Mr McKelvie said some of those who were alleged to have abused children had now died. He told the BBC he had spoken to victims over "many, many years" and that children - "almost exclusively boys" - were moved around like "a lump of meat". They had been subjected to the "worst form of abuse", including rape, he said. Mr McKelvie was a child protection manager in Hereford and Worcester and worked on the conviction of paedophile Peter Righton - a former consultant to the National Children's Bureau. Righton, who is now dead, was also a founding member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), before he was convicted of importing child pornography. However, Mr McKelvie told the BBC that the evidence discovered in the case went much further than simply Righton. Letters Mr McKelvie - who had access to documents relating to paedophile networks linked to the Righton inquiry - said he told police in 2012 there were seven boxes of potential evidence being stored by West Mercia police. He said the evidence included letters between Righton and other alleged paedophiles. In 2012, Mr McKelvie took his concerns to Labour MP Tom Watson, who then raised the matter in Parliament, prompting a preliminary police inquiry in 2012 that became a formal inquiry in 2013. His interview comes after footage emerged of a former Conservative MP suggesting to the BBC in 1995 that party whips might not disclose certain behaviour of colleagues including that "involving small boys." Tim Fortescue, who was a senior whip in Sir Edward Heath's government from 1970-73, claimed that MPs would "come and ask if we could help and if we could, we did". Meanwhile, Greater Manchester Police has also said there will be a wider inquiry into allegations of a cover-up involving paedophile abuse at Knowl View residential school - a school linked to the late MP Cyril Smith - in Rochdale in the 1980s and 1990s.

08-07-2014, 12:49 AM	#23
sanusi Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 219 Likes: 24 (14 Posts)	So David Icke was right all along, Would love to see people admit he was right on that one thing.

08-07-2014, 08:49 AM	#26
patrick Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 25 Likes: 0 (0 Posts)	I'd take back your thanks! Theresa May is helping to cover this up, that's why the NSPCC are involved - as usual, this is just what I feel, my opinion, backed by nothing more than intuition and common sense! Also, this is all a bit of a smokescreen, because it is looking at what happened decades ago and not at what is happening today. Distract us with the past and we won't look at the present.

08-07-2014, 10:19 AM	#29
evilc Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 889 Likes: 5 (2 Posts)	i`d like to suggest this thread belongs at the top of the news page. Sticky aside the Saville thread. This is the last time I`ll suggest it I don`t want to stir things up away from the main issue. There are so many threads over the pages that I have trouble reading them . My eyesight is shocking.

08-07-2014, 04:28 PM	#31
evilc Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 889 Likes: 5 (2 Posts)	Not discussing moderation but No one is posting anything on this thread at all are they?. Dozens of Westminster Child sexual Abuse posts on the news site. ( This post is simply for the benefit of any new visitors to the site)

08-07-2014, 06:06 PM	#32
swamideva Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 14,263 Likes: 75 (65 Posts)	Paedo MP cover-up claim: Top cop removed from sex abuse probe after naming politicians as suspects http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...#ixzz36tx0r5h0 Follow us: @DailyMirror on Twitter \| DailyMirror on Facebook

08-07-2014, 06:08 PM	#33
swamideva Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 14,263 Likes: 75 (65 Posts)	Petition We demand members of the public are included on the Child Abuse investigation panel to ensure; "Complete confidence in the integrity of the investigation"

08-07-2014, 06:14 PM	#34
swamideva Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 14,263 Likes: 75 (65 Posts)	Its a start but not enough Government launches two inquiries into Westminster child sex scandal... neither led by judge http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...#ixzz36tywIzRj Follow us: @DailyMirror on Twitter \| DailyMirror on Facebook

08-07-2014, 06:19 PM	#35
fairyprincess Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: The city at the edge of the world Posts: 12,548 Likes: 2,454 (1,355 Posts)	I does me good to hear the news use the word "conspiracy"..... it makes it harder for the pados to wriggle away.... __________________ "if you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you." (Jesus Christ, gospel of thomas.) Love is natural, Hate is taught....

08-07-2014, 07:13 PM	#36
pinkizzy Inactive Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,112 Likes: 1 (1 Post)	This thread is great as it is, i hate wading through pages and pages of a long thread

08-07-2014, 07:50 PM	#37
swamideva Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 14,263 Likes: 75 (65 Posts)	Whitewash??? Lady Butler-Sloss to lead child abuse inquiry Retired judge chaired Cleveland abuse inquiry in the late 1980s and was praised for her even-handed approach Butler Sloss apologises for making false allegations that she received death threats from f4j DIY Stores nationwide have reported that there has been a massive run of purchases of whitewash, by men in grey suits, all of whom waved a copy of the Official Secrets Act at any checkout staff, who asked for a delivery address ! Last edited by swamideva; 08-07-2014 at 08:17 PM.

08-07-2014, 09:24 PM	#39
essnumerology Premier Subscribers Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 80 Likes: 0 (0 Posts)	http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/201....html?spref=tw Quote; "Do they think the British public are compliant idiots. By appointing Butler-Sloss knowing her brother was also responisble for burying the Dickens Dossiers and the Elm Guest House investigation they are putting up two fingers to the British People. They are also giving insider elite paedophiles the big green light." Madness... The inquiry needs to be completely independent.

08-07-2014, 10:07 PM	#40
evilc Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 889 Likes: 5 (2 Posts)	I sensed a lot of squirming from a certain BBC Television Host when commenting on the case this AM so I did a search this eve and surprise surprise this so called journo was schooled at Eton. Last edited by evilc; 08-07-2014 at 10:13 PM.