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Old 20-09-2014, 01:39 PM   #41
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I know what your saying and i have a basic idea how it works. Though i could do without the hassle, i would rather duck and dive. Unless my back was against the wall.
I know what you mean, but heading into them head first is the best way to knock them on their asses, they wont know what;s hit them.

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Old 20-09-2014, 02:32 PM   #42
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Not really, you ask the system to prove the laws they are trying to shove you under, you then realize you have them as the laws don't exist.
Prove the law "cause no harm or loss" exists.
You can't and yet you believe it to be valid.
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Old 20-09-2014, 02:37 PM   #43
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seems to me there was a menardite out west in sakatchewan, i think, that didn't consent and didn't identify himself to the satisfaction of the courts so away he went to jail, held way more than the prescibed time allowed without trial etc, which seems to me, according the rights afforded a citizen, he wasn't treated like one...you'll have to persue this yourself as i cant be bothered.
There is no point in persuing that because it would not be helpful. Let me explain why. If someone who was not a FOTL, believed statutes are law and had never even heard about a "strawman" got themselves arrested but just to be awkward refused to give their name the authorities would treat them in exactly the same way as you have described. Your story does not prove they would treat a FOTL any different to anyone else. It certainly does not prove that the authorities look on a FOTL as a non-citizen when we know they would treat a citizen in the same way as a FOTL.
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Old 20-09-2014, 02:37 PM   #44
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seems to me there was a menardite out west in sakatchewan, i think, that didn't consent and didn't identify himself to the satisfaction of the courts so away he went to jail, held way more than the prescibed time allowed without trial etc, which seems to me, according the rights afforded a citizen, he wasn't treated like one...you'll have to persue this yourself as i cant be bothered.

edit: actually i think its a case of the government wanting us to think a citizen is a free man.

A freeholder under English law is free of lien on her or his own freehold.
Beyond that s/he's fair game same as everyone else apart from Mrs Queen.
The law applies to everyone and, in theory; it applies on freeholdings too.
In practice anyone can do whetever they want just so long as they don't get caught and if you are down a one mile drive behind good fences, that's quite a lot because Plod don't bother land owners unless they have huge cause to do so.
Plod's there to keep the tenants in order not the landlords.
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Old 20-09-2014, 03:14 PM   #45
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtlQ83e69sI

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Old 20-09-2014, 03:16 PM   #46
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Is there a way to reject Admiralty law?

yup .. keep off the high seas.
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Old 20-09-2014, 03:18 PM   #47
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Prove the law "cause no harm or loss" exists.
You can't and yet you believe it to be valid.
when it comes to knowledge of the law, gremlin has none.
however, she believes everything she thinks.
she still thinks that the law can only apply to a person if they consent to it.
delusions.
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Old 20-09-2014, 03:18 PM   #48
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Is there a way to reject Admiralty law?

yup .. keep off the high seas.
All together now....


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Old 20-09-2014, 03:20 PM   #49
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Old 20-09-2014, 04:24 PM   #50
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I have absolutely no idea what that video is meant to prove. A man flags down a police car and they stop to assist like they would do for anybody. One cop gets out to talk to him to see what is wrong, the man then talks a load of bollocks and the cops realising he is a timewaster drive off.
I suppose it did prove the video maker is an idiot. He claimed to have his own ANPR system but couldn't back it up.

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Old 20-09-2014, 04:29 PM   #51
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I have absolutely no idea what that video is meant to prove. A man flags down a police car and they stop to assist like they would do for anybody. One cop gets out to talk to him to see what is wrong, the man then talks a load of bollocks and the cops realising he is a timewaster drive off.
I suppose it did prove the video maker is an idiot. He claimed to have his own ANPR system but couldn't back it up.
ANPR? sorry ..
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Old 20-09-2014, 04:30 PM   #52
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I have absolutely no idea what that video is meant to prove.
obviously, neither does gremlin.
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Old 20-09-2014, 04:38 PM   #53
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ANPR? sorry ..
Automatic number plate recognition.
It pings up cars that aren't insured or are an interest to the police.

The idiot claimed the police car was registered to a woman and wanted to know why there was a man driving. He also claimed it showed as having no insurance. He demonstrated that he is a liar.
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Old 20-09-2014, 04:41 PM   #54
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I understand we are all corporate entities in this world. Is there anything we can do about that? Can we go to the gov office and ask them to burn our birth certificate?

If we start driving without a license, can't they still arrest and try us even if we have rejected our corporate identity?

Something just doesn't seem to be practical with this sovereign citizen movement.
To be independent you need to be highly skilled or as a group of similar ilk, live within the system, but make another which relies on less credits that don't really exist.

TPTB are only interested in people who they can farm, not those who have put themselves out to grass, they can try to intervene at any time so be prepared for confrontation at all times.

Religions get bonuses but your still bound by their rules and the stronger these factions get by monetary support, one is right back in their devils pulpit.

Temple bars are the same as prison bars if you suddenly find you do not follow any of their manufactured doctrines.

There are viruses that keep the host alive, semi parasitic and in balance with the host, modern government will always run out of people to steam and steal from, we are now entering the final place amongst this pile of stones called control and fall of mankind and his false masters.

Grab some skills today, because we will most likely need them much sooner than you think, when the talking has long ended, those who can do something will stand a much better chance later.

It will come to pass.

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Old 20-09-2014, 04:42 PM   #55
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Automatic number plate recognition.
It pings up cars that aren't insured or are an interest to the police.

The idiot claimed the police car was registered to a woman and wanted to know why there was a man driving. He also claimed it showed as having no insurance. He demonstrated that he is a liar.
all FMOTLers are either liars, or severely deluded.
robert menard = LIAR.
gremlin = 'severely deluded'.
(giving her the benefit of the doubt, obviously)
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Gremlin is a lass?
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all FMOTLers are either liars, or severely deluded.
robert menard = LIAR.
gremlin = 'severely deluded'.
(giving her the benefit of the doubt, obviously)
Many FOTLers do not have the right kind of skills to get the benefits from the land, or even know what land really is, but they are quickly learning that it takes real life skills to live outside a system that continually ignores nature.
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Gremlin is a lass?
apparently .. someone pointed this out a while ago.
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Well you live and learn.
I'd never have guessed that in a month of Sundays.
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Old 20-09-2014, 05:32 PM   #60
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Gremlin is a lass?
No I have a hose pipe.
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