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Old 31-12-2011, 02:50 AM   #201
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indolering has presented an excellent argument from a seemingly unbiased viewpoint...and a few people seem to be struggling with it / their belief system and retreating

I for one though think its one of the most fascinating subject areas alongwith the Pyramids/esoteric civilisations, and stargates....

roll on neo-humanism and maybe we can find out the answers to a lot of our questions
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Old 31-12-2011, 03:30 AM   #202
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I agree with some here....the moon spaceship theory answers more questions than any other...
and if its true then there aint going to be conclusive evidence of it to be found on the internet...
instinct instead?!

enough 'evidence' exists tho i think
Data from the Apollo missions provide a wealth of evidence that the moon is an artificial construct, intentionally steered into orbit around Earth.
Here is one of the most startling facts we learned from Apollo which, by itself, presents the most compelling evidence that the moon is not a natural satellite.

from Secrets Of Our Spaceship Moon :

"...Perhaps the most striking phenomenon of all regarding our strange Moon is that the seismic recordings each month conform to nearly the same identical pattern. The sequence of events, as Earths gravity tugs at the Moon, seems to be the same each month, rendering the same seismic signature. "
"Lunar seismic disturbances are assumed to be generated by stresses building up and sliding or other movements of rock faces. In the case of the Moon, lunar expert Gary Latham (NASA) explains, probably the tidal pull (of the Earth on the Moon) builds up until the friction can no longer hold these surfaces together and they just pop; they slide... But of course they would not slide each and every time in the same way at the same time. And yet they appear to be doing just that!"
"Moonquakes occur at monthly intervals like clockwork. When the Moon is closest (Perigee) the first popping noises come. Actually, the very first occur five days before the Moon reaches Perigee in its orbit, and then again another event indicates something stirring in the Moon three days before Perigee. The amazing thing is the clockwork precision with which this all happens. Scientists find it absolutely astonishing. You can set your watch by it, confesses Latham." (NASA Science Briefing, Houston, May 26th, 1971.)


In other words, if the moon were a natural body, it could not deliver identical seismic signals month after month, year after year. What these signals indicate is that there is something inside the moon which responds identically to the tidal pull of the Earth, month after month. According to the spaceship moon theory, the 'pops' are the result of pressures exerted on the steel hull within the moon which, as would be expected, reacts in the same way, time and again, to the tidal pull of the Earth.
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Old 31-12-2011, 03:40 AM   #203
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indolering has presented an excellent argument from a seemingly unbiased viewpoint...and a few people seem to be struggling with it / their belief system and retreating

I for one though think its one of the most fascinating subject areas alongwith the Pyramids/esoteric civilisations, and stargates....

roll on neo-humanism and maybe we can find out the answers to a lot of our questions
Thanks, leon, I'm trying to stay balanced like a good scientist - but I've seen so much evidence supporting the spaceship theory that I sometimes feel somewhat evangelical about it... But the subject is important. The evidence, which is fairly overwhelming, despite the protestations of the detractors, represents one of the most compelling arguments for the existence of intelligent ET life in proximity to Earth!
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Old 02-01-2012, 02:08 AM   #204
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something i found mysterious and weird is the writting of edward leedskalnin of coral castle in homestead florida during the early 19th century.

he built a 'castle' out of coral bedrock from the earth. no 'sheeple' know how he contructed it or cut the stone and raised into place the heavy coral but im sure some 'wolves' on this planet know just how he did it.

anyways.. he said if you read the books he read you would know. i heard he was a freemason, im sure he was privy to books we shall never read without taking a 'binding' oath

said he knew the secrets of how the pyramids were built

anyhow, here is the weird thing i read at the ending of this book 'magnetic current'



"As I said in the beginning, the North and South Pole magnets they are the cosmic force. They hold together this earth and everything on it, and they hold together the moon, too. The moon's North end holds South Pole magnets the same as the earth's North end. The moon's South end holds North Pole magnets the same as the earth's South end. Those people who have been wondering why the moon does not come down all they have to do is to give the moon one- half of a turn so that the North end would be in South side, and South end in the North side, and then the moon would come down. At present the earth and the moon have like magnet poles in the same sides so their own magnet poles keep themselves apart, but when the poles are reversed, then they will pull together. Here is a good tip to the rocket people. Make the rocket's head strong North Pole magnet, and the tail end strong South Pole magnet, and then shut to on the moon's North end, then you will have better success.



North and South Pole magnets are not only holding together the earth and moon, but they are turning the earth around on its axis. Those magnets which are coming down from the sun they are hitting their own kind of magnets which are circulating around the earth and they hit more on the East side than on the West side, and that is what makes the earth turn around.

North and South Pole magnets make the lightning, in earth's North hemisphere the South Pole magnets are going up and the North pole magnets are coming down in the same flash. In the earth's South hemisphere the North Pole magnets are going up and the South Pole magnets are coming down in the same flash. The North lights are caused by the North and South Pole magnets passing in concentrated streams, but the streams are not as much concentrated as they are in the lightning. The radio waves are made by the North and South Pole magnets.

Now about the magnet size. You know sunlight can go through glass, paper and leaves, but it cannot go through wood, rock and iron, but the magnets can go through everything. This shows that each magnet is smaller than each particle of light.


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why the hell would he say that, what was he saying? what is the deal? the masonic bullshit CONstructed society/world we are prisoners in this day..


maybe the "MASTERS" are serving some kind of LEADER/devil.. whom they don't like themselves, and are wishing for it to all end and have no way out except to consider a "GRAND WORK" to facilitate an 'ending' to the maddness we see on earth



kinda like , working for that BOSS that you wish you didn't have to work for????

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What an awesome subject. What I say is can anyone prove it's not a spaceship? we only have Nasa's say, and we all know what that's worth. I found it quite interesting what Michael Tsarion had to say about the moon in this video - about 7.20 into video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yNIsCHRc2Mhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yNIsCHRc2M

He talks about the moon being a magnetic key or lock. And the true star-gate, and why earth is in quarantine.
Food for thought!

turn the moon? one half turn? then it will come down?????????????

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Old 02-01-2012, 02:24 PM   #205
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He's not the first to say it - nor without good cause - some scientists seriously consider this theory as well.

Read: Who built the moon? from amazon.com
and Our Spaceship Moon - from amazon.com

for more info and 'evidence' if you need it.

there are many anomalies to do with the moon that start to make sense if you use the theory of it being artificial; and that dont otherwise make sense.

the moon used to be called 'sin' in olden times.
the bible says 'thou shalt not live in sin' - meaning in the moon... that was for the gods.

egyptian, hindu etc gods are shown with moons on their headresses or crescent moons near their heads, indicating their place of origin....
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:09 PM   #206
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He's not the first to say it - nor without good cause - some scientists seriously consider this theory as well.

Read: Who built the moon? from amazon.com
and Our Spaceship Moon - from amazon.com

for more info and 'evidence' if you need it.

there are many anomalies to do with the moon that start to make sense if you use the theory of it being artificial; and that dont otherwise make sense.
Exactly right, SnL. Not only does the spaceship theory resolve the many anomalies but the evidence likewise demolishes any remnants of the three traditional theories of the moon's origin. And the two books you mention are indeed primary resources for an understanding of the moon's condition.

@ deafbred:
Fascinating stuff about magnetics, dude. I'm sure there's much more to be discovered about the role of electro-magnetic influences on and off our planet. Thanks for your contribution. I'll have a look at the Tsarion video.
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Old 03-01-2012, 05:53 AM   #207
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NASA Probe Arrives In Moon Orbit For Lunar Mapping Mission

Nasa's twin Gravity Recovery And Interior Laboratory, (GRAIL), spacecraft wrapped up 2.6-million-mile journey to put themselves into lunar orbit on Saturday and Sunday.
Over the next two months, the probes' 34-mile-high orbits will be adjusted to get them into optimal position to measure the pushes and pulls of the moon's gravity, data that scientists can use to model what is inside the moon.
"Pop the bubbly and toast the moon," Nasa wrote on its Twitter feed after the first GRAIL spacecraft finished a 40-minute braking maneuver at 5 pm EST (10pm GMT) on New Year's Eve.
The second spacecraft followed suit 25 hours later. Both are needed for the intricate gravity-mapping mission scheduled to begin in March.
"Everything is looking good," Nasa wrote as ground control teams received radio signals on Sunday confirming the second spacecraft's arrival. "It's going to be a great 2012."
Over the next two months, the probes' orbits will be tweaked until they are flying in formation low over the lunar poles. As the spacecraft fly over denser regions of the moon, they will speed up slightly in response to the extra gravitational tugs.
By constantly measuring changes in the distance between the two craft, scientists can create a gravity map of the moon. The changes in speed will be as subtle as a fraction of a micron per second. A micron is about the width of a red blood cell.
The data will be used to model the moon's interior, a key piece of information still missing despite more than 100 previous missions to the moon, including six human expeditions during Nasa's 1969-1972 Apollo program.
Scientists believe the moon formed when an object about the size of Mars smashed into Earth shortly after the formation of the solar system about 4.5 billion years ago. But questions about how the moon evolved remain.
One longstanding question is why the far side of the moon is so different from the side that permanently faces Earth. The near side is filled with large, dark plains formed by ancient volcanic eruptions, while the far side is virtually all highlands.
The mission is scheduled to last 82 days, but if the solar-powered probes, built by Lockheed Martin Corp, survive beyond the next lunar eclipse in June, the $496 million mission could be extended for a more detailed mapping survey.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/s...g-mission.html


So NASA's going to find out what's inside the moon.... This is just more cover for what's really going on behind the scenes. The Big Boys behind NASA know very well what's inside the moon, and they have no intention of telling the public. Notice they tenaciously cling to the 'moon was once part of Earth' nonsense. They count on the public being ignorant of the information already collected by the Apollo missions.
Anyway, they already have stated that the moon is structured much like the Earth with an iron core and a molten interior. This is nonsense. The moon is too small to have a hot interior. The lava 'seas', or maria are evidence of lava flowing from the interior but the seas show no signs of being natural formations. All the maria are quite circular and flat and full of refractory metals. None of their characteristics make any sense from the standpoint of being naturally formed. Further, the mascons (massive concentrations of gravitational force) are all located directly in the center of these maria, another conundrum for which NASA has no answer.

Expect the results of this mission to further confirm their bogus contentions that the moon is just another satellite, which resembles the Earth in its structure.
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Thanks, leon, I'm trying to stay balanced like a good scientist - but I've seen so much evidence supporting the spaceship theory that I sometimes feel somewhat evangelical about it... But the subject is important. The evidence, which is fairly overwhelming, despite the protestations of the detractors, represents one of the most compelling arguments for the existence of intelligent ET life in proximity to Earth!
Lets say the moon is a spaceship or construction for a minute...

do you think the moon is reacting to the tides, or causing them?
and if the latter, what purpose could this serve?

What do you think it does?


My instinct is that these are important subjects. There is some hugely-influential truth in some of this, Im sure. Did they give part of it away in Star Wars?!

And what if there is a huge electromagnetic superweapon constantly manipulating the vibrations and energy here?!
Sounds paranoid and crazy huh...

*tinfoil hat alert* I actually used to have dreams of something similar to this you see.... A pulsing machine, which was overwhelming in its scale and power. Id have visions /dreams of it working...
why would a child think that?!
what had I been watching...?!?
(it wasnt like star wars :P)

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He's not the first to say it - nor without good cause - some scientists seriously consider this theory as well.

Read: Who built the moon? from amazon.com
and Our Spaceship Moon - from amazon.com

for more info and 'evidence' if you need it.

there are many anomalies to do with the moon that start to make sense if you use the theory of it being artificial; and that dont otherwise make sense.

the moon used to be called 'sin' in olden times.
the bible says 'thou shalt not live in sin' - meaning in the moon... that was for the gods.

egyptian, hindu etc gods are shown with moons on their headresses or crescent moons near their heads, indicating their place of origin....
interesting, thank yuh

never heard of the 'sin' meaning
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I'm with Indolering on this one

So, is the moon really an alien Spaceship? here are some strange facts:

After hundreds of years of detailed observation and study, our closest companion in the vast universe, Earth’s moon, remains an enigma. Six moon landings and hundreds of experiments have resulted in more questions being asked than answered. Among them:

1. Moon’s Age: The moon is far older than previously expected. Maybe even older than the Earth or the Sun. The oldest age for the Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old; moon rocks were dated at 5.3 billion years old, and the dust upon which they were resting was at least another billion years older.

2. Rock’s Origin: The chemical composition of the dust upon which the rocks sat differed remarkably from the rocks themselves, contrary to accepted theories that the dust resulted from weathering and breakup of the rocks themselves. The rocks had to have come from somewhere else.

3. Heavier Elements on Surface: Normal planetary composition results in heavier elements in the core and lighter materials at the surface; not so with the moon. According to Wilson, "The abundance of refractory elements like titanium in the surface areas is so pronounced that several geologists proposed the refractory compounds were brought to the moon’s surface in great quantity in some unknown way. They don’t know how, but that it was done cannot be questioned." (Emphasis added).

4. Water Vapor: On March 7, 1971, lunar instruments placed by the astronauts recorded a vapor cloud of water passing across the surface of the moon. The cloud lasted 14 hours and covered an area of about 100 square miles.

5. Magnetic Rocks: Moon rocks were magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. This could not have originated from a "close call" with Earth—such an encounter would have ripped the moon apart.

6. No Volcanoes: Some of the moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions.

7. Moon Mascons: Mascons, which are large, dense, circular masses lying twenty to forty miles beneath the centers of the moon’s maria, "are broad, disk-shaped objects that could be possibly some kind of artificial construction. For huge circular disks are not likely to be beneath each huge maria, centered like bull’s-eyes in the middle of each, by coincidence or accident." (Emphasis added).

8. Seismic Activity: Hundreds of "moonquakes" are recorded each year that cannot be attributed to meteor strikes. In November, 1958, Soviet astronomer Nikolay A. Kozyrev of the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory photographed a gaseous eruption of the moon near the crater Alphonsus. He also detected a reddish glow that lasted for about an hour. In 1963, astronomers at the Lowell Observatory also saw reddish glows on the crests of ridges in the Aristarchus region. These observations have proved to be precisely identical and periodical, repeating themselves as the moon moves closer to the Earth. These are probably not natural phenomena.

9. Hollow Moon: The moon’s mean density is 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth’s is 5.5. What does this mean? In 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated, "If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere." Nobel chemist Dr. Harold Urey suggested the moon’s reduced density is because of large areas inside the moon where is "simply a cavity." MIT’s Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote, "the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon’s gravitational field . . . indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow." In Carl Sagan’s treatise, Intelligent Life in the Universe, the famous astronomer stated, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."

10. Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour. This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 (intentionally commanding the third stage to impact the moon), with even more startling results. Seismic instruments recorded that the reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and traveled to a depth of twenty-five miles, leading to the conclusion that the moon has an unusually light—or even no—core.

11. Unusual Metals: The moon’s crust is much harder than presumed. Remember the extreme difficulty the astronauts encountered when they tried to drill into the maria? Surprise! The maria is composed primarily of illeminite, a mineral containing large amounts of titanium, the same metal used to fabricate the hulls of deep-diving submarines and the skin of the SR-71 "Blackbird". Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements not found in nature on Earth) were discovered in lunar rocks, as were rustproof iron particles.

12. Moon’s Origin: Before the astronauts’ moon rocks conclusively disproved the theory, the moon was believed to have originated when a chunk of Earth broke off eons ago (who knows from where?). Another theory was that the moon was created from leftover "space dust" remaining after the Earth was created. Analysis of the composition of moon rocks disproved this theory also. Another popular theory is that the moon was somehow "captured" by the Earth’s gravitational attraction. But no evidence exists to support this theory. Isaac Asimov, stated, "It’s too big to have been captured by the Earth. The chances of such a capture having been effected and the moon then having taken up nearly circular orbit around our Earth are too small to make such an eventuality credible."


13. Weird Orbit: Our moon is the only moon in the solar system that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. Stranger still, the moon’s center of mass is about 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center (which should cause wobbling), but the moon’s bulge is on the far side of the moon, away from the Earth. "Something" had to put the moon in orbit with its precise altitude, course, and speed.

14. Moon Diameter: How does one explain the "coincidence" that the moon is just the right distance, coupled with just the right diameter, to completely cover the sun during an eclipse? Again, Isaac Asimov responds, "There is no astronomical reason why the moon and the sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion."

15. Craters: All the craters of the moon have a maximum depth of between 2 to 2.5 miles irrespective of their diameter, some of the larger craters have convexed floors, which means if you stood inside at the center of the crater. the crater rim would be below the horizon, Could there be an outer shell that limits the depth of the impacts?


16.TLP’s: For hundreds of years Astronomers have reported strange lights observed of the surface of the moon, these have been called TLP's (Transient Lunar Phenomena) they are still seen to this day and even now cannot be explained,

17.Radio Noise: What was the source of the strange radio signals and noise that emanated from the Moon and was reported by every Apollo mission as the spacecraft got closer to the moon.

18. Spaceship Moon: As outrageous as the Moon-Is-a-Spaceship Theory is, all of the above items are resolved if one assumes that the moon is a gigantic extraterrestrial craft, brought here eons ago by intelligent beings. This is the only theory that supports all the known data, and there are no data that contradict this theory.

Also read:

Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon by Don Wilson 1974

Secrets Of Our Spaceship Moon by Don Wilson 1979

Who Built The Moon? by Christopher Knight & Alan Butler 2005

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Good post, wanaknow. You covered a lot of the crucial evidence which has confounded astronomers and yet confirmed the spaceship theory.

With the US moon probes now in place and with China and India getting into the game, things should get interesting soon. I expect NASA to maintain their usual posture, reporting only evidence and interpretations which support their unsupportable position; but I'm not at all sure what China or India will find or report or how much a vested interest they have to maintain silence on the true nature of the moon.


@ leon: The moon causes the tides. I don't know if there is some intentional purpose for this effect - some people claim that life could not exist without the moon. I disagree but much more research is necessary before we'll know the answer to that question.

Star Wars featured a 'Death Star' which is, like our moon, a huge sphere which can transport thousands of entities and their machines and weapons....

Icke wrote about this in Human Race Get Off Your Knees. He suggests that the reptilians are beaming a false reality to Earth, disrupting the natural flow of energies from the Sun. I recommend reading the book if possible - if there are some who cannot get ahold of his book I could be persuaded to post some relevant excerpts....
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no idea where you quoted the tsarion video from originally but I gave it a watch again. I always resonated with Tsarion's info but Id like to explore it a little bit more. Lots of people have said he is full of shit so I started looking into it.

One of the first subjects on that video is The Pheryllt - A fraternity of powerful druids....but I googled it and a lot of the links say this is bollocks...I quote,

"I keep seeing references to a supposed medieval Welsh manuscript called The Book of Pheryllt. I have a suspicion that most, if not all of these references, are inspired by the truly wretched and quite idiotic book The 21 Lessons of Merlyn by Douglas Monroe. Monroe, who has neither Irish nor Welsh, refers to The Book of Pheryllt as a sixteenth century manuscript of arcane Welsh mystical learning.

"Drivel" is the most polite way I can refer to Monroe's claims. There is no such sixteenth century manuscript. Monroe's recent "sequel" to 21 Lessons of Merlyn, The Lost Books of Merlyn is an obvious fake from the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, full of egregious factual errors and offensive sexist and racist assumptions. At best it is a piece of poorly thought out fiction; it has absolutely no scholarly value at all. Monroe clearly knows nothing about ancient Celtic practices, languages, druids, botany, or mythology, and his ritual practices are derived from modern Wicca and ceremonial magic rather than authentic ancient pagan Celtic practice."

Is this valid do you think?

I would have thought it would get easier and easier to seperate fact from fiction, liars and fakes from scholars and the genuine....but it seems to get harder.
My head spins with all the disinfo, counter-arguments, etc these days!

who to trust
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back on point, the barrier he talks of (which is apparently used to quarantine the earth), is represented symbolically by the DRAGON.

Interesting that I was reading today that the true energy lines of the earth are not the leylines but the DRAGON VEINS or lines.

Interesting...
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Icke wrote about this in Human Race Get Off Your Knees. He suggests that the reptilians are beaming a false reality to Earth, disrupting the natural flow of energies from the Sun. I recommend reading the book if possible - if there are some who cannot get ahold of his book I could be persuaded to post some relevant excerpts....
I've just read 'The Truth Vibrations' by David Icke.

Regarding the Moon, he writes:

"The arks sailed away as the waters rose and the Earth went into its second axis tilt since humans had arrived on Earth. This was caused by the planet Lucifer being affected by the dark forces projected by the fallen Deva or angel (hence the Deva became known as Lucifer)
As a result of this imbalance the planet Lucifer fell into the Earth's gravitational field and geological catasrophe ensued. Lucifer is the planet we now call the Moon. There was no Moon in the Earth sky before the end of Atlantis. The time we are now living through is when Lucifer and the Archangel Michael begin their spiritual battle to decide if darkness or light are to control this planet, as forecast in the Book of Revelations. It is time, also, for us to chooose which of them we wish to follow.
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This was a time before he was aware of the reptillian agenda, but the descriptions sound identical.
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no idea where you quoted the tsarion video from originally but I gave it a watch again. I always resonated with Tsarion's info but Id like to explore it a little bit more. Lots of people have said he is full of shit so I started looking into it.

One of the first subjects on that video is The Pheryllt - A fraternity of powerful druids....but I googled it and a lot of the links say this is bollocks...I quote,

"I keep seeing references to a supposed medieval Welsh manuscript called The Book of Pheryllt. I have a suspicion that most, if not all of these references, are inspired by the truly wretched and quite idiotic book The 21 Lessons of Merlyn by Douglas Monroe. Monroe, who has neither Irish nor Welsh, refers to The Book of Pheryllt as a sixteenth century manuscript of arcane Welsh mystical learning.

"Drivel" is the most polite way I can refer to Monroe's claims. There is no such sixteenth century manuscript. Monroe's recent "sequel" to 21 Lessons of Merlyn, The Lost Books of Merlyn is an obvious fake from the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, full of egregious factual errors and offensive sexist and racist assumptions. At best it is a piece of poorly thought out fiction; it has absolutely no scholarly value at all. Monroe clearly knows nothing about ancient Celtic practices, languages, druids, botany, or mythology, and his ritual practices are derived from modern Wicca and ceremonial magic rather than authentic ancient pagan Celtic practice."

Is this valid do you think?

I would have thought it would get easier and easier to seperate fact from fiction, liars and fakes from scholars and the genuine....but it seems to get harder.
My head spins with all the disinfo, counter-arguments, etc these days!

who to trust
Not being familiar with Tsarion's or Monroe's works I can't comment on them. Same goes for Wicca, Celtic and Druid traditions.

You're not alone at being overwhelmed with conflicting claims. Most of the subjects which concern most of us here are shrouded in secrecy and antiquity. It does require methodical research to suss out the truth of these subjects. One suggestion I can make is to rely first on the researchers and historians who are respected in their field, or those with whom you resonate. And avoid becoming too overloaded by trying to take in too much. After reading up on one researcher, take a little time to reflect on his evidence and conclusions before moving on to the next one; slowly, the big picture comes into view, and as you continue, the picture can be revised or even altered completely depending on the information gathered.

Strange as it may sound, the research on the nature of the moon is actually far easier than other fields, like religion, evolution, politics or spiritual disciplines. We're fortunate that the early lunar data from Apollo is reliable and can't be altered, and the data clearly indicates that Luna is not a completely natural satellite.
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Old 13-01-2012, 12:31 AM   #216
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I've just read 'The Truth Vibrations' by David Icke.

Regarding the Moon, he writes:

"The arks sailed away as the waters rose and the Earth went into its second axis tilt since humans had arrived on Earth. This was caused by the planet Lucifer being affected by the dark forces projected by the fallen Deva or angel (hence the Deva became known as Lucifer)
As a result of this imbalance the planet Lucifer fell into the Earth's gravitational field and geological catasrophe ensued. Lucifer is the planet we now call the Moon. There was no Moon in the Earth sky before the end of Atlantis. The time we are now living through is when Lucifer and the Archangel Michael begin their spiritual battle to decide if darkness or light are to control this planet, as forecast in the Book of Revelations. It is time, also, for us to chooose which of them we wish to follow.
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This was a time before he was aware of the reptillian agenda, but the descriptions sound identical.
Well, I've not read Truth Vibrations but my guess is that this information is either channeled or from someone like Blavatsky. This type of material is largely judged by one's intuition and less so by scientific analysis. I agree with a spiritual war in 'heaven' and that the moon is a recent addition to our solar system. But rather than the moon 'falling' toward Earth, it's clear to me the moon must have been carefully positioned in orbit due to its colossal size relative to Earth. The moon, simply put, could not possibly have been captured naturally; all the laws of celestial mechanics mitigate against it.
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On earth, we get moonlight. Therefore, on the moon they would get 'earthlight'? Red, blue, green light splashed across the surface, how cool would that be.


By the way, the moon is not a spaceship , it's a massive rock.
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Old 13-01-2012, 01:54 AM   #218
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On earth, we get moonlight. Therefore, on the moon they would get 'earthlight'? Red, blue, green light splashed across the surface, how cool would that be.


By the way, the moon is not a spaceship , it's a massive rock.
Very cool, I'd say a few degrees above zero Kelvin.

It sure looks like a big rock...but it doesn't act like one.
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Well, I've not read Truth Vibrations but my guess is that this information is either channeled or from someone like Blavatsky. This type of material is largely judged by one's intuition and less so by scientific analysis. I agree with a spiritual war in 'heaven' and that the moon is a recent addition to our solar system. But rather than the moon 'falling' toward Earth, it's clear to me the moon must have been carefully positioned in orbit due to its colossal size relative to Earth. The moon, simply put, could not possibly have been captured naturally; all the laws of celestial mechanics mitigate against it.
I'm with you all the way.

Although i'm in no way religious, the Bible does seem to point out a few profound truths...all written allegorically.

Like if you were to not take the word 'falling' literally, it could mean "carefully positioned".

Anyway, you should give the Truth Vibrations a read.
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Very cool, I'd say a few degrees above zero Kelvin.
Lunar surface temperature swings from roughly 180K to 250K over a month.


http://www.monstein.de/astronomypubl...Moon2001V2.htm

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In what way does the moon not act like a big rock?
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