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Old 20-07-2018, 07:44 AM   #861
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I do hope this thread hasn't died just because I contributed some informed knowledge in post #858 after a request by the nine.

@ the nine: Has this information helped?

Maybe it's the sort of data that those who fear HAARP, but don't understand it, don't like because it starts to unravel their suspicions and opinions...?


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Old 30-07-2018, 10:11 AM   #862
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Be afraid. Be very afraid. HAARP will be operating today and tomorrow.
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WSPR experiments are tentatively planned to occur between 2300 and 2400 hours UTC on July 30, 31, and Aug 1. Most broadcasts will be at the 80m dial frequency default in WSJT, that is 3.5926 MHz with AM (3 dB loss) because HAARP does not have an upper side band (USB) mode yet!
In plain English that means anyone with a good radio capable of receiving the 80 metre amateur band can tune to 3592.6 kHz to listen to these sinister signals. So be on the lookout for hurricane creation, tidal waves and earthquakes.

More technical info here: https://twitter.com/ctfallen
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Old 30-07-2018, 04:04 PM   #863
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Be afraid. Be very afraid. HAARP will be operating today and tomorrow.

In plain English that means anyone with a good radio capable of receiving the 80 metre amateur band can tune to 3592.6 kHz to listen to these sinister signals. So be on the lookout for hurricane creation, tidal waves and earthquakes.

More technical info here: https://twitter.com/ctfallen
So we can now listen to the classified communication to their nuclear submarines now?
With a good radio capable of receiving 80 metre amateur band..is that what you are saying?

Or do they have different frequencies and wattage output for different applications?
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Old 30-07-2018, 05:20 PM   #864
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So we can now listen to the classified communication to their nuclear submarines now?
With a good radio capable of receiving 80 metre amateur band..is that what you are saying?

Or do they have different frequencies and wattage output for different applications?
It's not used for submarine communication. And even if it were the encryption would not be breakable to the public. HF radio is full of secure military comms from all counties if you tune around, and always has been. Although satellite comms is more secure and reliable these days.

What that info shows is that when HAARP is operating (this is only 80kW for that test) it is detectable to anyone who wants to hear it. This time it's doing propagation tests on 80 metres. If it's detectable when just doing basic stuff, it should be blowing peoples' lights out when it's in weather-control or earthquake mode! But of course it doesn't do that...
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Old 31-07-2018, 01:41 AM   #865
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It's not used for submarine communication. And even if it were the encryption would not be breakable to the public. HF radio is full of secure military comms from all counties if you tune around, and always has been. Although satellite comms is more secure and reliable these days.

What that info shows is that when HAARP is operating (this is only 80kW for that test) it is detectable to anyone who wants to hear it. This time it's doing propagation tests on 80 metres. If it's detectable when just doing basic stuff, it should be blowing peoples' lights out when it's in weather-control or earthquake mode! But of course it doesn't do that...
You speak so matter of factly..
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[Reprinted with permission of the Alaska Conservation Foundation,
750 West 2nd Ave, Suite 104, Anchorage, AK 99501 - (907) 27601917]
HAARP Knock, Knock, Knocking
on Heaven's Door
A new research installation is beaming powerful radioactive energy into the upper atmosphere. Exploring conventional and exotic military uses of the air waves towards its goals.

At a remote facility ringed with barbed wire, a brand-new array of 36 antennas rises from the black spruce forest that stretches hundreds of miles across central Alaska. Completed December 1994 and now undergoing testing, the antenna field is the visible part of a powerful and sophisticated high-frequency radio transmitter designed to transform areas of the upper atmosphere into the equivalent of huge lenses, mirrors, and antennas.

This little-known Pentagon-sponsored radiophysics project, called the High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), is officially intended to expand knowledge about the nature of long-range radio communications and surveillance using the fluctuating ionosphere - the portion of the upper atmosphere extending from 35 to 500 miles above earth's surface. [see: Way Up in the Ionosphere]

According to program manager John L. Heckscher of the Phillips Laboratory at Hanscom AFB, Massachusetts, potential military applications of the HAARP research include developing Department of Defense technology for detecting cruise missiles and communicating with submarines. "Although HAARP is being managed by the Air Force and Navy, it is purely a scientific research facility that poses no threat to potential dversaries and has no value as a military target," he says.

But that's just the publicly announced part of the program. HAARP also has a secret agenda: pursuing more exotic military goals, such as locating deeply buried weapons factories thousands of miles away and even altering the local weather above an enemy's territory.

A 1990 internal document obtained by POPULAR SCIENCE says the program's overall goal is to "control ionospheric processes in such a way as to greatly improve the performance of military command, control, and communications systems." It provides a description of the following applications:

Injecting high-frequency radio energy into the ionosphere to create huge, extremely low frequency (ELF) virtual antennas used for earth-penetrating tomography peering deep beneath the surface of the ground by collecting and analyzing reflected ELF waves beamed down from above.
Heating regions of the lower and upper ionosphere to form virtual "lertses" and "mirrors" that can reflect a broad range of radio frequencies far over the horizon to detect stealthy cruise missiles and aircraft.
Generating ELF radio waves in the ionosphere to communicate across large distances with deeply submerged submarines.
And, patent documents filed during an earlier research effort that evolved into the HAARP program outline further military applications of ionospheric-heating technology:
Creating a "full global shield" that would destroy ballistic missiles by overheating their electronic guidance systems as they fly through a powerful radio-energy field.
Distinguishing nuclear warheads from decoys by sensing their elemental composition.
Manipulating local weather.
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Old 31-07-2018, 07:15 AM   #866
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Although HAARP is being managed by the Air Force and Navy, it is purely a scientific research facility that poses no threat to potential dversaries and has no value as a military target,
Who believes this......seriously.......

If there is a Elite who creates society as we see it today,
every army is a state right hand,so why is the army incharge of something that isn't their field....there is must be a reason(dark one) why they push development of that tech .....
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Old 31-07-2018, 08:08 AM   #867
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You speak so matter of factly..

Full article here.
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Generating ELF radio waves in the ionosphere to communicate across large distances with deeply submerged submarines.
Absolutely true. ELF waves are used to communicate with submarines, but generating them is problematic (massively long antennas required).

But some of HAARP's experiments attempt to generate them by pulsing its high frequency (2500 kHz to 9500 kHz) array at very low frequency (below 30 kHz) and where the VLF/ELF waves are generated by modulated heating of the ionosphere. But the experiments appear to show this is still a very inefficient way of generating them. Nevertheless these experiments have shown some of the other aspects of how the ionosphere reacts to VLF/ELF signals.

But HAARP is not presently used for communicating with submarines - its generating ELF/VLF is still in an experimental stage - although its experiments may well lead to this. This is all a bit disappointing for those who want to believe it's for weather control or earthquake generation!

Incidentally, the first sentence of the article you linked to is completely inaccurate: "A new research installation is beaming powerful radioactive energy into the upper atmosphere." Obviously written by someone who does not appreciate the difference between ionizing and non-ionizing radiation, and as such suggests a lack of understanding of the whole subject.
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:22 PM   #868
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ows-itself-out

"The Met Office is warning that the heatwave that has scorched much of the country for weeks is about to end with a bang, blowing itself out in thunderstorms across the east and south-east on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning that could trigger flash flooding."

Hilarious how the masses see these weather changes as normal, or "global warming".

No doubt this is all HAARP. Will document the so called natural storm that'll descend upon us in its artificial flashy ugly lighty glory, which the masses also perceive as "normal" lightening. Yes lightning without thunder.
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Old 08-08-2018, 08:56 AM   #869
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ows-itself-out

"The Met Office is warning that the heatwave that has scorched much of the country for weeks is about to end with a bang, blowing itself out in thunderstorms across the east and south-east on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning that could trigger flash flooding."

Hilarious how the masses see these weather changes as normal, or "global warming".

No doubt this is all HAARP. Will document the so called natural storm that'll descend upon us in its artificial flashy ugly lighty glory, which the masses also perceive as "normal" lightening. Yes lightning without thunder.
Mmm... lightning without thunder. How does that happen? Lightning is a rapid expansion of air into a plasma energised by an electrical discharge. Explosion means noise. You can't have a silent explosion in air - with one exception.

If you are in a position where the wind is strong enough and you are far enough away, the sound waves wont be strong enough to be heard at your location. Nothing to do with HAARP.

Hope people enjoy the break in southern England's weather now we have some Atlantic depressions coming our way!

thermion - who is a member of the 'masses' who understands basic meteorology, atmospheric physics, the ionosphere and electrical/electronic/RF engineering through study and practice and not just by watching stuff on Youtube.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ing.html?login

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Old 08-08-2018, 11:09 PM   #871
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Again, the MSM being used as a source when it suits, and the Daily Mail at that!

Anyway, assuming the DM hacks read a real scientific paper and quoted it accurately, it is speculation (it says that) based volcanic eruptions of particles, but particularly sulphur dioxide gas. Can't remember sulphur dioxide has ever been described as chemtrail constituent.

Just because the Daily Mail has a story discussing a proposed method (again, a quote) it is not proof that every vapour trail is some deadly chemtrail.




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If you are in a position where the wind is strong enough and you are far enough away, the sound waves wont be strong enough to be heard at your location. Nothing to do with HAARP.
This is inapplicable to what I am describing.

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thermion - who is a member of the 'masses' who understands basic meteorology, atmospheric physics, the ionosphere and electrical/electronic/RF engineering through study and practice and not just by watching stuff on Youtube.
I have experienced it myself; I do not need to verify what I have seen on YouTube, although sometimes I do indulge.
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Old 24-08-2018, 06:59 PM   #873
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Is anyone able to construct a HAARP explanation for this? Go on, just try.

OK chemtrailing then...

(Top tip: you might like to familiarize yourself with a bit of meterorology first.)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...eteorologists/


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Is anyone able to construct a HAARP explanation for this? Go on, just try.
Ok if I must.
The alternative explanation could be gravity waves, can HAARP affect or cause gravity waves? I dont Know for sure and neither do you.

Strong breeze, I dont buy it.
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Horizontal convective rolls, more commonly known as cloud streets, form when warm air close to the ground rises to meet cooler air causing it to condense and form clouds.

This paired with a strong breeze will cause the clouds to form a linear pattern similar to that seen in a ploughed field.
The more likely explanation




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Old 25-08-2018, 11:23 AM   #875
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Interesting, but what has HAARP got to do with wave clouds near Australia? Maybe it was just testing its reach.

Then there is this image, obviously leaked to expose some sinister weather-control facility on Amsterdam Island


Or these from South Sandwich Islands:


I did suggest a bit of meteorology understanding or research would be helpful...

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lol, thats brilliant. And I bet some suckers believe it too
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It's not used for submarine communication. And even if it were the encryption would not be breakable to the public. HF radio is full of secure military comms from all counties if you tune around, and always has been. Although satellite comms is more secure and reliable these days.

What that info shows is that when HAARP is operating (this is only 80kW for that test) it is detectable to anyone who wants to hear it. This time it's doing propagation tests on 80 metres. If it's detectable when just doing basic stuff, it should be blowing peoples' lights out when it's in weather-control or earthquake mode! But of course it doesn't do that...
Are you sure? I was under the impression that ELF needs to be used for underwater communications because higher frequencies are just reflected off the surface.
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Are you sure? I was under the impression that ELF needs to be used for underwater communications because higher frequencies are just reflected off the surface.
You are quite correct. ELF is used for underwater (and underground) communication. But someone suggested HAARP was used for this. No evidence that this is the case yet.

See my post #867.
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You are quite correct. ELF is used for underwater (and underground) communication. But someone suggested HAARP was used for this. No evidence that this is the case yet.

See my post #867.
I thought that HAARP used atmospherics to demodulate the UHF signal to create a ELF signal. Cant remember where I came across this though.
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I thought that HAARP used atmospherics to demodulate the UHF signal to create a ELF signal. Cant remember where I came across this though.
It's an experimental ionospheric heater, although you'll read from people (who don't recognise its types of antennas or understand anything about the ionosphere) that it's actually capable of all sorts of other sinister stuff. They'll likely quote as evidence the book "Angels don't play this HAARP", written by two guys with no background in any appropriate sceintific areas, so really don't know if what they're being fed is true or BS. Nevertheless, they've spun it into a great narrative and sold a book.

Anyway, the facility has open days; not something a super-secret facility is likely to have, unless all the super secret stuff is done behind the bike sheds or in the basement!

I think there's more detail in the thread, but in brief, it operates in the HF range from about 3 to 10 MHz. UHF is 300 to 3000 MHz and goes straight through the ionosphere and not related.

When HAARP is operating, it's easily detectable by anyone with a suitable SW radio if ionospheric propagations are appropriate. I'm in the UK and have heard it operating on numerous occasions. I have a recording of it somewhere.

If it generates VLF signals it does so by pulsing HF signals at very low frequencies (VLF) in the ionosphere.

There's a Skeptoid episode (https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4122) "HAARP Myths", but it's obviously been made by a CIA/military-government shill to deflate the HAARP conspirasphere...
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