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Old 04-10-2018, 09:41 PM   #561
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Yeah, but unless Kissinger and Rockefeller are fully enlightened then they're just as subject to influence as anyone else. If you want to oppose them that's up to you. Go for it. I'd rather go after the bigger fish. The things that actually put such causality in motion. But hey, it's not an easy option. I can't even define what the heck those are.

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I think they can only impose things on people because people are ignorant of their overall agenda

so if we all share information and become aware of the agenda then people en masse will not accept it

this prevents violence because its a simple rejection of the things that you know are coming from them such as SMART meters
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What Max Horkheimer meant by Universal Egalitarianism is the end of European Civilization itself. To achieve Universal Egalitarianism actually required it.

He went on to give interviews in which he stated Critical Theory , which is now known in Academia as Critical Thinking - has a sole purpose of deconstructing society and eventually destroying it all together.

The burdens do not rest.

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Entire sciences have been created surrounding their reasoning of science instead of the science itself
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Smear and Shekels
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Haaretz reveals today that Canary Mission a Hasbara defamation outlet that was established to “spread fear among undergraduate activists, posting more than a thousand political dossiers on student supporters of Palestinian rights,” is funded by one of the largest Jewish charities in the U.S.

According to Haaretz; the Forward, an American Jewish outlet, “has definitively identified a major donor to Canary Mission. It is a foundation controlled by the Jewish Community Federation of San Francisco, a major Jewish charity with an annual budget of over $100 million.” We could have guessed the funding was from such an organisation. We somehow knew that it wasn’t the Iranian government or Hamas who sent shekels to the Zionist smear factory. Haaretz continues, “for three years, a website called Canary Mission has spread fear among undergraduate activists, posting more than a thousand political dossiers on student supporters of Palestinian rights. The dossiers are meant to harm students’ job prospects, and have been used in interrogations by Israeli security officials.”

Canary Mission is indeed a nasty operation and far from unique. We have seen similar efforts within the Jewish institutional universe for some time. It might be reasonable to opine that smear has become a new Jewish industry. Consistent with the rules of economics, many new Jewish bodies have entered the profitable business, and these outlets have competed mercilessly with each other for donations and funds.

This is precisely a variation on the battle we have seen in Britain in the last few years. Almost every British Jewish institution joined the ‘Corbyn defamation’ contest, competing over who could toss the most dirt on the Labour party and its leader. The outcome was magnificent. Last week at Labour’s annual conference, the party unanimously expressed its firm opposition to Israel and took the Palestinian’s side.

Badmouthing is not really a ‘Zionist symptom.’ Unfortunately, it is a Jewish political obsession. In between its fund raisers, it seems that Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) invests a lot of energy in smearing some of the more dedicated truth tellers. Mondoweiss, another Jewish outlet, practices this game as well.

I, myself, have been subjected to hundreds of such smear campaigns by so called ‘anti’ Zionist Jews who were desperate to stop the circulation of my work on Jewish ID politics. But these frantic efforts only served to support my thesis that the issues to do with Israel and Palestine extend far beyond the Zionist/anti debate. We had better dig into the meaning of Jewishness and its contemporary political implications.

Once again the question is, why do self-identified Jewish activists use these ugly tactics? Why do they insist upon smearing and terrorising instead of engaging in a proper scholarly and/or political debate?

Choseness is one possible answer. People who are convinced of their own exceptional nature often lack an understanding of the ‘other.’ This deficiency may well interfere with the ability to evolve a code of universal ethics.

The other answer may have something to do with the battle for funds. As we learned from Haaretz, the Canary Mission is funded by one of the richest Jewish American funds. Badmouthing has value. ‘You defame, we send money.’ Unfortunately this holds for Zionists and ‘anti’ alike.

Crucially, in this battle, Jews often oppose each other. Haaretz writes that the Canary Mission “has been controversial since it appeared in mid-2015, drawing comparisons to a McCarthyite blacklist.” And it seems that some Zionist Jews eventually gathered that the Canary smear factory gives Jews a bad name.

Tilly Shames, who runs the campus Hillel at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, told the Forward that “the tactics of the organisation are troubling, both from a moral standpoint, but have also proven to be ineffective and counterproductive,”

Shames said that Canary Mission’s publication of dossiers on students on her campus had led to greater support for the targeted students and their beliefs, and had spread mistrust of pro-Israel students, who were suspected of spying for Canary Mission.

This dynamic can be explained. My study of Jewish controlled opposition postulates that self-identified Jewish activists always attempt to dominate both poles of any debate that is relevant to Jewish interests. Once it was accepted that Palestine was becoming a ‘Jewish problem,’ a number of Jewish bodies became increasingly involved in steering the Palestinian solidarity movement. We then saw that they diluted the call for the Palestinian Right of Return and replaced it with watery notions that, de facto, legitimise Israel.

When it was evident that the Neocon school was, in practice, a Ziocon war machine, we saw bodies on the Jewish Left steer the anti-war call. When some British Jews realised that the Jewish campaign against Corbyn might backfire, they were astonishingly quick to form Jews for Jeremy that rapidly evolved into Jewish Voice for Labour (JVL). The battle over the next British PM became an internal Jewish debate. The rule is simple: every public dispute that is somehow relevant to Jewish interests will quickly become an exclusive internal Jewish debate.

Hillel activists see that Canary Mission is starting to backfire. Together with Forward and Haaretz, they have quickly positioned themselves at the forefront of the opposition.
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The 3rd Jewish Temple Prophecy

Actually the whole idea of the third temple is based around the coming of the jewish messiah, which is why they dont consider Jesus to be the messiach. The messiach was also supposed to cause the return of all Jews to Israel. So, if this starts to happen then you know the messiah is here!
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:28 AM   #568
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Actually the whole idea of the third temple is based around the coming of the jewish messiah, which is why they dont consider Jesus to be the messiach. The messiach was also supposed to cause the return of all Jews to Israel. So, if this starts to happen then you know the messiah is here!
so an event could cause the return of more jews to israel for example the uptick in tensions caused by the mass influx of muslims into the west

wahhabism was created by zionists and as we are seeing in syria at the moment al qaeda and ISIS are simply creatures of mossad/CIA/MI6

Whenever there has been a 'terror' attack in britain it always seems that some information then comes out about the attacker to show they had some sort of contact with british intelligence at some point

so we could see wahhabist assets in the west used to drive jews back to israel

The messiah i believe is the artificial intelligence and i believe it is already here. Israel is positioning itself as one of the worlds leading tech centres and has back doors into much of the tech

Israel also has many assets in silicon valley who are smuggling info about the tech out to israel as part of the talpiot programme

Rabbis have claimed a red heifer has been born that augers the coming of the messiah

The preists of the leviathon the levis are ready to manage the new temple.

There has been talk of tunnels under the al aqsa mosque that could be used to collapse the building

The only thing that is now needed is a broad fronted war against islam that would provide the cover for the destruction of the mosque and also would see the islamic backlash checked by greater force from the freemasonic controlled western powers. Obviously muslim countries across the middle east have been and are still being softened up by the US military to weaken them and ensure victory

what are your views on the part of the prophecy that believes that the goyim will become the slaves of the jews once the new temple is built?

do you believe that as a freemason you will be exempt from that because if you do i'm not sure you are right.

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Old 12-10-2018, 09:59 AM   #569
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Did Israeli spy firm help Trump win presidency?
Ali Abunimah Lobby Watch 9 October 2018

A report in The New York Times this week reveals details of a multimillion dollar scheme by a now defunct Israeli spy firm to use social media manipulation and fake online identities in a sophisticated effort to sway the 2016 election in favor of Donald Trump.

Trump eventually secured his party’s nomination and went on to win the US presidency but it is unclear if Psy-Group, a firm staffed by former Israeli intelligence agents, gave him a boost.

The company’s former CEO Royi Burstien previously commanded an Israeli psychological warfare unit.

According to his LinkedIn profile, Burstien lives in a settlement in the Israeli-occupied West Bank and held several senior intelligence posts with the Israeli government between 2003 and 2013. He now markets himself as an “intelligence-based influence expert.”

Psy-Group has also reportedly been involved in the Israeli government’s covert campaign against the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement for Palestinian rights.

Back in May, the Times reported that three months before the 2016 election, Psy-Group owner Joel Zamel and an emissary for two powerful Gulf princes had met with one of Trump’s sons to talk about ways to help the Trump campaign.

“The emissary, George Nader, told Donald Trump Jr. that the princes who led Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were eager to help his father win election as president,” the Times reported.

“The social media specialist, Joel Zamel, extolled his company’s ability to give an edge to a political campaign; by that time, the firm had already drawn up a multimillion-dollar proposal for a social media manipulation effort to help elect Mr. Trump.”

“There is no evidence that the Trump campaign acted on the proposals,” the Times states in its latest report.
Suspicious payment

But the paper notes that Nader and Zamel “have given differing accounts over whether Mr. Zamel ultimately carried out the social media effort to help the Trump campaign and why Mr. Nader paid him $2 million after the election, according to people who have discussed the matter with the two men.”

The special counsel investigation run by Robert Mueller into alleged foreign interference in the 2016 US election has shown “keen interest” in the payment, according to the Times.

“It is unclear how and when the special counsel’s office began its investigation into Psy-Group’s work, but FBI agents have spent hours interviewing the firm’s employees,” the newspaper states.

“This year, federal investigators presented a court order to the Israel Police and the Israeli Ministry of Justice to confiscate computers in Psy-Group’s former offices in Petah Tikva, east of Tel Aviv.”

In May, Bloomberg reported that Mueller’s team was inquiring about “flows of money into the Cyprus bank account” of Psy-Group.
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so an event could cause the return of more jews to israel for example the uptick in tensions caused by the mass influx of muslims into the west

wahhabism was created by zionists and as we are seeing in syria at the moment al qaeda and ISIS are simply creatures of mossad/CIA/MI6

Whenever there has been a 'terror' attack in britain it always seems that some information then comes out about the attacker to show they had some sort of contact with british intelligence at some point

so we could see wahhabist assets in the west used to drive jews back to israel

The messiah i believe is the artificial intelligence and i believe it is already here. Israel is positioning itself as one of the worlds leading tech centres and has back doors into much of the tech

Israel also has many assets in silicon valley who are smuggling info about the tech out to israel as part of the talpiot programme

Rabbis have claimed a red heifer has been born that augers the coming of the messiah

The preists of the leviathon the levis are ready to manage the new temple.

There has been talk of tunnels under the al aqsa mosque that could be used to collapse the building

The only thing that is now needed is a broad fronted war against islam that would provide the cover for the destruction of the mosque and also would see the islamic backlash checked by greater force from the freemasonic controlled western powers. Obviously muslim countries across the middle east have been and are still being softened up by the US military to weaken them and ensure victory

what are your views on the part of the prophecy that believes that the goyim will become the slaves of the jews once the new temple is built?

do you believe that as a freemason you will be exempt from that because if you do i'm not sure you are right.
Apparently the Dead Sea has sprung into life, which marks the coming also.

I personally believe that the Jews and Islams both worship the many named Anunnaki gods who intend to reside in the 3rd Temple Mount by invitation of the ruling world government

I wouldn't bother debating with folks who have sworn an oath upon pain of death to a secret society who's very principles are deceit and lies to non members!
I leave them to draw their shekels for being here and try to interact with them as little a possible
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Apparently the Dead Sea has sprung into life, which marks the coming also.
its important that people, realise that discussing what other people are saying is not 'anti-semitism'

discussing what the jews themselves are saying is their belief system is not anti-semitism

If i were to create a prophecy where i could build a temple and then rule over all jews as my slaves then THAT would be anti-semitism or something approximating to it

But i have NO such desire to harm or rule over jews or anyone else.

I just don't want to be ruled over myself and i'll recognise all other human beings sovereign right to be free human beings upon this earth if they also recognise my right

If they do not recongise my right and intend to enslave me then we have a problem and it is then in the public interest to discuss that problem and its better to have it out calmly in public where we can all discuss the problem and come up with a peaceful solution than to let things fester away in the shadows of society

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I personally believe that the Jews and Islams both worship the many named Anunnaki gods who intend to reside in the 3rd Temple Mount by invitation of the ruling world government
I personally don't expect a physical alien to arrive. I believe we are dealing with inter-dimensional entities and that the blood sacrifices of the jewish priests of the leviathon (levis) and the mayan snake kings and others are to those entities

sacrifice and magical ritual gains greater power depending on the state of the moon and the sun and that's why these things are watched so closely by the priests

The freemasons for example carry out much of their ritual under the moon

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I wouldn't bother debating with folks who have sworn an oath upon pain of death to a secret society who's very principles are deceit and lies to non members!
I leave them to draw their shekels for being here and try to interact with them as little a possible
as long as you remain strong in yourself and don't allow their toxicity to rub off then it can be an opportunity to not only reveal their deceitful nature for people to see but also to present information that will expose their contradictions and lies
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its important that people, realise that discussing what other people are saying is not 'anti-semitism'

discussing what the jews themselves are saying is their belief system is not anti-semitism

If i were to create a prophecy where i could build a temple and then rule over all jews as my slaves then THAT would be anti-semitism or something approximating to it

But i have NO such desire to harm or rule over jews or anyone else.

I just don't want to be ruled over myself and i'll recognise all other human beings sovereign right to be free human beings upon this earth if they also recognise my right

If they do not recongise my right and intend to enslave me then we have a problem and it is then in the public interest to discuss that problem and its better to have it out calmly in public where we can all discuss the problem and come up with a peaceful solution than to let things fester away in the shadows of society



I personally don't expect a physical alien to arrive. I believe we are dealing with inter-dimensional entities and that the blood sacrifices of the jewish priests of the leviathon (levis) and the mayan snake kings and others are to those entities

sacrifice and magical ritual gains greater power depending on the state of the moon and the sun and that's why these things are watched so closely by the priests

The freemasons for example carry out much of their ritual under the moon



as long as you remain strong in yourself and don't allow their toxicity to rub off then it can be an opportunity to not only reveal their deceitful nature for people to see but also to present information that will expose their contradictions and lies
I agree your entire post
(We have our own differing beliefs regarding the future residents of the 3rd Temple Mount)
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Actually the whole idea of the third temple is based around the coming of the jewish messiah, which is why they dont consider Jesus to be the messiach. The messiach was also supposed to cause the return of all Jews to Israel. So, if this starts to happen then you know the messiah is here!


The ol usual......

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so an event could cause the return of more jews to israel for example the uptick in tensions caused by the mass influx of muslims into the west

wahhabism was created by zionists and as we are seeing in syria at the moment al qaeda and ISIS are simply creatures of mossad/CIA/MI6

Whenever there has been a 'terror' attack in britain it always seems that some information then comes out about the attacker to show they had some sort of contact with british intelligence at some point

so we could see wahhabist assets in the west used to drive jews back to israel

The messiah i believe is the artificial intelligence and i believe it is already here. Israel is positioning itself as one of the worlds leading tech centres and has back doors into much of the tech

Israel also has many assets in silicon valley who are smuggling info about the tech out to israel as part of the talpiot programme

Rabbis have claimed a red heifer has been born that augers the coming of the messiah

The preists of the leviathon the levis are ready to manage the new temple.

There has been talk of tunnels under the al aqsa mosque that could be used to collapse the building

The only thing that is now needed is a broad fronted war against islam that would provide the cover for the destruction of the mosque and also would see the islamic backlash checked by greater force from the freemasonic controlled western powers. Obviously muslim countries across the middle east have been and are still being softened up by the US military to weaken them and ensure victory

what are your views on the part of the prophecy that believes that the goyim will become the slaves of the jews once the new temple is built?

do you believe that as a freemason you will be exempt from that because if you do i'm not sure you are right.
Well I tend to not really believe prophecies. They have a habit of failing.

For centuries christians enslaved people because it was acceptable to abuse non-christians. Same goes for most religions, so why do you make this a jewish thing? I tell you why, its because you are twisted. Your whole stance says more about you and your bias than anything else.
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its important that people, realise that discussing what other people are saying is not 'anti-semitism'

discussing what the jews themselves are saying is their belief system is not anti-semitism

If i were to create a prophecy where i could build a temple and then rule over all jews as my slaves then THAT would be anti-semitism or something approximating to it

But i have NO such desire to harm or rule over jews or anyone else.

I just don't want to be ruled over myself and i'll recognise all other human beings sovereign right to be free human beings upon this earth if they also recognise my right

If they do not recongise my right and intend to enslave me then we have a problem and it is then in the public interest to discuss that problem and its better to have it out calmly in public where we can all discuss the problem and come up with a peaceful solution than to let things fester away in the shadows of society



I personally don't expect a physical alien to arrive. I believe we are dealing with inter-dimensional entities and that the blood sacrifices of the jewish priests of the leviathon (levis) and the mayan snake kings and others are to those entities

sacrifice and magical ritual gains greater power depending on the state of the moon and the sun and that's why these things are watched so closely by the priests

The freemasons for example carry out much of their ritual under the moon



as long as you remain strong in yourself and don't allow their toxicity to rub off then it can be an opportunity to not only reveal their deceitful nature for people to see but also to present information that will expose their contradictions and lies
Can you prove freemasons carry out rituals under the moon? you might find that lodges meet at all times of the month rather than during any particular phase. In that way I could you say you do all of your activity under the moon!

You pretend that you only want to help people but instigators of trouble always try to make out they are just trying to help people along.

What about your lies and deceptions that have been exposed many times? you are as much a liar as anybody.
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Well I tend to not really believe prophecies. They have a habit of failing.

For centuries christians enslaved people because it was acceptable to abuse non-christians. Same goes for most religions, so why do you make this a jewish thing? I tell you why, its because you are twisted. Your whole stance says more about you and your bias than anything else.
watch the clip as it interviews jewish people who tell you what their beliefs are so I'm not making it a 'jewish thing' they are!

In fact i'm not doing anything! All i'm doing is pointing out what they are saying so i don't know why you are attacking me! I'm not the one with the prophecy. If you have problem with the prophecy then take it up with them

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Can you prove freemasons carry out rituals under the moon? you might find that lodges meet at all times of the month rather than during any particular phase. In that way I could you say you do all of your activity under the moon!

You pretend that you only want to help people but instigators of trouble always try to make out they are just trying to help people along.

What about your lies and deceptions that have been exposed many times? you are as much a liar as anybody.
where have i lied?

The moon in masonic history
by James P. W. Goss
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There is no more spectacular reminder of our Masonic historical and ritualistic heritage than the moon at its height of fullness. While astronomers view the moon with the analytical eye of science, the moon has been a focal point for cultures around the world throughout history and has inspired music, poetry and religion alike. However, for Masons, and particularly Vermont Masons, the moon has not just been a symbolic light in our ritualistic teaching but also a literal light to our brethren of long ago. It thus behooves us to take a moment to remember the moon and its long association with the Craft and its origins. Our direct Masonic tradition regarding the moon begins with the ancient Hebrews. In Genesis 1:14-19, we are told that on the fourth day of creation, "God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night." Despite the specific prohibitions against lunar worship in Deuteronomy and the Book of Kings, the moon was still regarded as a strong symbol of permanence and regularity associated with its usage to measure the passage of time. In fact, the monthly offerings to the moon found in Numbers 28:11-15 are still read in some Jewish synagogues.

There is one other strong association of the moon with Masonry which in many ways is more meaningful than all of the above. In the early eighteen hundreds when Masonry in Vermont was still a new venture, the Green Mountain State was a wild and unsettled place. It is difficult for us to imagine the thoughts and feelings of a nineteenth century Vermont Mason stepping into the bitter cold of a winter night after a lodge meeting to pursue his travel homeward. For him, a trip of several miles at night after a lodge meeting was a major undertaking where even the task of finding one’s way was formidable. For this reason, many of these early lodges in Vermont and other jurisdictions adopted the custom of holding their meetings during the week of the full moon. Hence, these lodges became referred to as "Moon Lodges."

They serve as a reminder to modern Masons travelling home by the light of the moon that they are in essence following in the footsteps of their elder brethren for whom the moon was a real as well as symbolic light.
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Old 15-10-2018, 08:58 PM   #579
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watch the clip as it interviews jewish people who tell you what their beliefs are so I'm not making it a 'jewish thing' they are!

In fact i'm not doing anything! All i'm doing is pointing out what they are saying so i don't know why you are attacking me! I'm not the one with the prophecy. If you have problem with the prophecy then take it up with them



where have i lied?

The moon in masonic history
by James P. W. Goss
Grand Historian, Grand Lodge of Vermont
There is no more spectacular reminder of our Masonic historical and ritualistic heritage than the moon at its height of fullness. While astronomers view the moon with the analytical eye of science, the moon has been a focal point for cultures around the world throughout history and has inspired music, poetry and religion alike. However, for Masons, and particularly Vermont Masons, the moon has not just been a symbolic light in our ritualistic teaching but also a literal light to our brethren of long ago. It thus behooves us to take a moment to remember the moon and its long association with the Craft and its origins. Our direct Masonic tradition regarding the moon begins with the ancient Hebrews. In Genesis 1:14-19, we are told that on the fourth day of creation, "God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night." Despite the specific prohibitions against lunar worship in Deuteronomy and the Book of Kings, the moon was still regarded as a strong symbol of permanence and regularity associated with its usage to measure the passage of time. In fact, the monthly offerings to the moon found in Numbers 28:11-15 are still read in some Jewish synagogues.

There is one other strong association of the moon with Masonry which in many ways is more meaningful than all of the above. In the early eighteen hundreds when Masonry in Vermont was still a new venture, the Green Mountain State was a wild and unsettled place. It is difficult for us to imagine the thoughts and feelings of a nineteenth century Vermont Mason stepping into the bitter cold of a winter night after a lodge meeting to pursue his travel homeward. For him, a trip of several miles at night after a lodge meeting was a major undertaking where even the task of finding one’s way was formidable. For this reason, many of these early lodges in Vermont and other jurisdictions adopted the custom of holding their meetings during the week of the full moon. Hence, these lodges became referred to as "Moon Lodges."

They serve as a reminder to modern Masons travelling home by the light of the moon that they are in essence following in the footsteps of their elder brethren for whom the moon was a real as well as symbolic light.
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/Moon.html
While lunar symbolsm does occur you specifically said masons carry out most of their rituals under the moon. I was asking you to explain that claim. Dont forget that even at night the moon is not always visible or even above the horizon, depending on its position.

Personally I dont care if people do fancy a bit of lunar goddess worship
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While lunar symbolsm does occur you specifically said masons carry out most of their rituals under the moon. I was asking you to explain that claim. Dont forget that even at night the moon is not always visible or even above the horizon, depending on its position.

Personally I dont care if people do fancy a bit of lunar goddess worship
ah so now you change tack and say ''well yeah they are doing rituals under the moon but so what?'

do you have no shame man?
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