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Old 13-10-2017, 08:22 PM   #21
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I never realized that you were supposed to boil the water and melt the magnesium flakes to make magnesium oil. Can you really dissolve an entire cup of flakes in a cup of water that way? Though I take loads of magnesium already I ordered some flakes to give it a try because magnesium if one of my favorite supplements if not my most favorite.
Sorry I did not word it very well steve, it cannot be done in a cup - but don't boil the water - Pour the cups into a pan and just heat it and stir for a couple of minutes. The flakes will melt into the water (as if you were making jelly), then let it cool down.
1 cup water to one of magnesium chloride, unless you find it stings, in which case use an extra cup of water. That can be added when cold, no problem. I use 1:2 mix because I find the 1:1 is too sticky and too prickly for my skin. Many of the ready made oils which cost ten times more are around 27% strength which is 1:2.7
Use only the purest magnesium chloride from the dead sea if you are going to use orally. I put mine into old milk containers and spray bottle. 1kg flakes should make maybe 2 litres of oil. Good Luck! I hope you like it - It's a nice cheap and versatile way to get large doses of magnesium into the body. A couple of hours in the gym would probably use most of the day's supplement.(and more). The flakes and oil will both keep well stored. I just make one or two litres at a time as I need it. The larger tubs of flakes work out cheaper.

For toothpaste add some magnesium oil of your preferred ratio to a small container of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) and stir until you obtain a paste to your liking (it gets runnier and thinner the more magnesium oil that you add.
The toothpaste mix can be just rubbed into feet (or toenails) if you have a fungal infection, it takes away the itch too, and cures the problem.(with toenails rub into nails and get some under the end of the nail too)
I am going to try some with baking soda as a shampoo for my hair tomorrow, I shall let you know how I get on.

P.S. Use only pure or distilled water. otherwise it may be compromised.
You have done a great job with the thread - everybody needs more magnesium.

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Old 14-10-2017, 04:30 PM   #22
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I didn't mean into the same cup. I tried dissolving magnesium flakes into some water some years back without boiling and it seemed like I got maybe a tenth that much to dissolve before it became saturated. I didn't realize you could get more to dissolve by boiling or that the flakes would melt.

I believe I already get plenty of magnesium. I'd just like to try using the oil for variety and see of there's any difference.

I do notice a difference when I take the Concentrace minerals. There's very little minerals in them yet I can "feel it". Supposedly this is due to their ionic form. According to the label magnesium is the most abundant mineral in there though there is supposed to be 70 something other minerals as well.
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Old 24-10-2017, 03:12 PM   #23
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I didn't mean into the same cup. I tried dissolving magnesium flakes into some water some years back without boiling and it seemed like I got maybe a tenth that much to dissolve before it became saturated. I didn't realize you could get more to dissolve by boiling or that the flakes would melt.

I believe I already get plenty of magnesium. I'd just like to try using the oil for variety and see of there's any difference.

I do notice a difference when I take the Concentrace minerals. There's very little minerals in them yet I can "feel it". Supposedly this is due to their ionic form. According to the label magnesium is the most abundant mineral in there though there is supposed to be 70 something other minerals as well.
There is a big difference involved with magnesium chloride.
When taking magnesium supplement orally by other methods, the intake is dependent on the take-up rate (which is with most supplements usually a fraction of the amount ingested as most is treated as waste)
With Magnesium oil the take-up from oral use is 100%.
Why?
Because the oil is taken up transdermally - and directly into the tissue on the inside of the body. (It does not have to reach the stomach).
So, if -like me- you mix it at half strength, ( 1 in 3 instead of 1 in 2) then two dessert spoonfuls (30 ml) taken orally is 30% pure magnesium into the body = around 10 grams approximately ( = 10 ml)
So it's a good method, - and swilling around the mouth and teeth before swallowing allows some to be taken directly into the mouth and throat too. It's very good for the teeth. Makes them strong.
If you are mixing it at half strength, make it at normal strength, then add the extra cold water whilst stirring for the cooling period after.
Use only pure or distilled water.
If you have taken too much it will simply loosen your stools. No problem. If it gets that far, it will have done good.

Give your head a good dose of magnesium too - Use the oil as a conditioner shampoo - use on the hair and rub it in to the hair and scalp - for those who are bald, rub into the scalp, and leave for at least half an hour or longer if possible, before douching or rinsing off.
Using it all over is even better.

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Old 25-10-2017, 04:35 PM   #24
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Gees! What are you, the magnesium oil poster boy? OK. OK. I'm giving it a try! Just took some off the stove. It is cooling now!

Not going to get my hopes up too much though. I don't see how this stuff could be that much better than other forms of magnesium. But people do swear by it. Seems like a lot of the testimonials on Amazon are just as gung ho about it as you are!
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Old 27-10-2017, 06:39 AM   #25
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Gees! What are you, the magnesium oil poster boy? OK. OK. I'm giving it a try! Just took some off the stove. It is cooling now!

Not going to get my hopes up too much though. I don't see how this stuff could be that much better than other forms of magnesium. But people do swear by it. Seems like a lot of the testimonials on Amazon are just as gung ho about it as you are!
Most of the testimonials on Amazon are from people who put the flakes into their bath water.
Personally I would prefer not to soak in the tap water, as I know exactly what is in it ( and the fluoride is more active when heated), but everyone to their own!

I tried the magnesium oil with baking soda as shampoo and do not recommend as you are left with a sticky mass of hair that is a real job to rinse.
So, as for conditioning the hair and scalp, by all means use magnesium oil as I have explained above, but for problems with the hair or scalp, infestations or lice, etc., use half a teaspoon of baking soda mixed into a small cup of warm water and massage into the hair and scalp. Leave for twenty minutes or more before rinsing off.

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I can see why it would cure lice and so fourth. I had no idea that stuff would sting so much. NOT RECOMMENDED AS AN AFTER SHAVE!
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I can see why it would cure lice and so fourth. I had no idea that stuff would sting so much. NOT RECOMMENDED AS AN AFTER SHAVE!
It's not so bad at half-strength, steve, and goes much further ! ( 1 x Mag to 2 x water ratio). You can add the extra cold water to the mix you have already made - no need to heat it up. just give it a shake or stir.
Most of the ready-made expensive stuff is even weaker - almost 1:3
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Nice and easy palatable mix for Magnesium Oil, for body spray and oral transdermal use is the same as Ancient Minerals - that is 1:2.7, or approximately 2 x magnesium to 5.4 x water.

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I started a thread on Fluoride, but Grimstock convinced me that magnesium (deficiency) is more interesting...

An estimated 80% of Americans are magnesium deficient.
Prescription drugs and fluoride can deplete your body of magnesium.
Early signs of magnesium deficiency include loss of appetite, headache, nausea, fatigue, and weakness.
Magnesium deficiency can cause amongst others: osteoporosis, heart attacks and diabetes.

Over the past 30 years, women have been told to take supplemental calcium to avoid osteoporosis, and calcium has been added to food. Osteoporosis rates have continued to climb.

You can’t simply add magnesium to your diet to solve problems, because when you take any of the following you need to take all the others into consideration as well: magnesium, calcium, vitamin D3, and vitamin K2.
If you're K2 or magnesium deficient, adding calcium will cause more problems than it solves. Taking mega doses of vitamin D supplements without sufficient amounts of K2 and magnesium can lead to vitamin D toxicity and magnesium deficiency symptoms.

If you have too much calcium and not enough magnesium, your muscles will tend to go into spasm. This could cause a heart attack: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...-benefits.aspx


Magnesium can counter and reduce the toxic effects of fluoride.
Calcium and magnesium are important structural components of teeth and bone.

In a “scientific” study, subjects from 40 to 80 years old, with the highest calcium–to–magnesium ratio suffered greater tooth loss than those with a lower calcium–to–magnesium ratio.

In 1941, Time Magazine published an article about the “perfect teeth” and low incidence of bone fracture among residents of Deaf Smith County, Texas.
The water in Deaf Smith County had a magnesium content twice as high as that in Dallas County (where bone fracture and tooth decay were common). The water in Deaf Smith County also contained relatively much calcium and “natural” fluoride...
Adverse effects of fluoride, like weakening of bones and brown stains and tooth pitting on teeth, were also absent in Deaf Smith County:
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Teeth just plain don't decay in Deaf Smith County, on the sandy plains of the Texas panhandle. (Elsewhere in the U.S. 95 out of 100 have dental caries.) This remarkable fact was reported last week to the Houston meeting of the American Dental Association by Dr. Edward Taylor, chief dentist of the Texas State Board of Health.
In 1961, Nature reported about a significant reduction in dental caries in 200 patients that were given an alkaline phosphate (= magnesium) for 3 years. Scientists in New Zealand discovered that magnesium was the beneficial factor.
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an important role can possibly be assigned to magnesium [phosphate] in the stabilization of chemical, physical and electrokinetic states of the surface enamel calcium.
In other words, calcium can only have a positive impact after it is stabilised, for example by magnesium.

Studies on guinea pigs and rats have confirmed the importance of magnesium:
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When guinea pigs are fed a diet deficient in magnesium they grow slowly and, if they survive for a few months, they develop deposits of calcium phosphate in such organs as the kidneys, muscles, liver, stomach, and heart.
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A high calcium level in the diet increases the magnesium requirement of guinea pigs just as has been observed by others who have studied the magnesium requirement of the rat.
When researchers at Loma Linda University in California substituted whole wheat with white flour in the food for rats, they found that more caries developed. Whole wheat flour contains 113 mg of magnesium per 100 grams, but white flour has only 25 mg.
There were 3.64 carious lesions per rat on the white flour diet, which also contained the high calcium foods cottage cheese and milk.
On the same diet, but with high magnesium whole wheat flour, there were only 1.16 carious lesions.

Lewis B. Barnett in September 1966 stated that supplementing our diet with magnesium would be a much better method than fluoride for tooth decay prevention.

Here’s the “short” story: http://integratedsupplements.typepad...al-health.html
Here’s the long version (which is part of a book on magnesium): http://www.mgwater.com/rod10.shtml
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