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Old 18-01-2018, 04:28 PM   #21
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This is not the first time grim has promoted unconventional products on this forum...
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Old 18-01-2018, 04:42 PM   #22
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Testimonial by surfsteve: This is just quackery!

Testimonial by employees of the Hindenburg: "We'd like to comment but we were all blown up!"
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Old 18-01-2018, 05:19 PM   #23
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Healing with Hydrogen

Modern medicine is about to discover how brilliant, safe and effective it can be.
Molecular hydrogen brings a revolution in medicine, one that every doctor and patient
will be interested in. The science is irresistible and mounting clinical experience is
pointing to hydrogen as the strongest, simplest and safest medicine in existence. After
experimenting with the toxic pharmaceuticals, heavy metals and radiation over the last
century we now find hydrogen gas and hydrogen water making headway into the
mainstream of medicine where it is already saving lives.
The hydrogen gas cavalry is arriving just in time for many who are not keeping up with
their health challenges and their medical costs. Those whose needs are the greatest will
benefit most from hydrogen because it penetrates the mitochondria, DNA and to every
extremity in the body. Already accepted in Japan and China, the pure fuel that sends
rockets into space has been found to be exceedingly useful in the world of medicine.
Doctors are just learning that hydrogen can be provided as a medicine, a lifesaving
medicine. Emergency room doctors, ambulance paramedics and intensive care doctors
will be the first to understand the real importance of hydrogen. Instead of just adding a
little oxygen they will be applying hydrogen, oxygen and making sure CO2 levels raise
as well.
Good thing these gasses are freely available, cannot be patented and are easily made in
our own homes. Hard research sustains the view that hydrogen is a medicine of the
future that has arrived today and when combined with oxygen will save people even
when they are on their death beds.
Hydrogen to the Rescue
2What is the first thing the fire department does when its trucks arrive at a fire? They pull
out the hoses, connect to the hydrants, and pour tons of water onto the nastiest fires. In
the medical world, the equivalent is hydrogen, which too can be flooded into a dying
body to put out the flames of inflammation and oxidative stress. In the future, hydrogen
will become as important in hospitals as oxygen.
As you shall see throughout this book, molecular hydrogen (H 2 ) functions as an
extensive protector against oxidative stress, inflammation and allergic reactions. i
Molecular hydrogen is a medical gas that can be dissolved in water and administered
through drinking, inhalation, transdermally, used in baths, and by intravenous drip (IV).
Molecular hydrogen has proven useful and convenient as a novel antioxidant and
modifier of gene expression where oxidative stress results in cellular damage.
Hydrogen is qualified to cross the blood brain barrier, to enter the mitochondria, and
“even has the ability to translocate to the nucleus under certain conditions,” reports Dr.
Brandon J Dixon in Medical Gas Research. Because of its size, molecular hydrogen can
do a lot of things larger molecules of known antioxidants can’t. Once in these ideal
locations of the cell, previous studies have shown that hydrogen exerts antioxidant, anti-
apoptotic, anti-inflammatory, and cytoprotective properties that are beneficial to the
cell.
There are no safety issues with hydrogen; it has been used for years in gas mixtures for
deep diving and in numerous clinical trials without adverse events. There are no
warnings in the literature of its toxicity or long-term exposure effects.
Even though oxygen is prescribed as a medicine in hospitals, it is an essential nutrient
that we breathe 24/7 and so is hydrogen and carbon dioxide, though we make plenty of
CO2 in our bodies if we exercise enough and are not breathing too fast. Yet nothing will
be able to compete with hydrogen in terms of healing power for it underpins everything,
not only in our physical bodies but in the universe. However, at the level of the three
primary gases, which are the most essential ingredients of life, one simply cannot talk
about one without the others and certainly the most brilliant medicine will incorporate
all three in practice.
Hydrogen will quickly change the landscape of a person’s presenting condition and that
is why doctors in the west are beginning to take notice. With its potent and unique
antioxidant properties, gene regulatory abilities, and rapid rates of diffusion across
tissue and cellular barriers, as well as its excellent safety record, hydrogen has many
unique characteristics that make it very valuable for utilization in medicine and health.
Its systemic properties and excellent penetration abilities allow hydrogen to be effective
under conditions of poor blood flow and other situations that limit many other types of
systemic treatments.
Hydrogen protects us from harm
3Hydrogen helps protect us from the cellular damage caused by increasing radiation,
chemical and heavy metal exposure. It will also offer some level of protection from the
oxidative stress caused by cell phones, Wi-Fi and all the EMF pollution that is
increasingly plaguing us. And it will protect us from the negative side effects of
pharmaceutical medicines, chemotherapy and radiation doctors use to treat cancer.
The first report demonstrating the benefits of drinking hydrogen water in patients
receiving radiation therapy for malignant tumors affirms how helpful hydrogen is for
radiation exposure. This finding provides the foundation for a clinically applicable,
effective, and safe strategy for the delivery of hydrogen gas to mitigate radiation-
induced cellular injury. ii In an increasingly radioactive world and with doctors using
more radiation to diagnose and treat disease than ever hydrogen will be life saving for
many.
The Fire of Life
Just like every sun needs mountain ranges of hydrogen every minute to run themselves,
humans too run on hydrogen, so supplying a lot more, in the form of molecular
hydrogen gas and water, ignites a fire in us. A healing fire that medical scientists
believe is even good for impossible to cure diseases like muscular dystrophy and many
other diseases that modern medicine has failed to find answers for.
Though medical scientists focus on the antioxidant implications of hydrogen, finally
having a powerful enough fire truck to put out the nastiest oxidative fires, we see and
will present chapters dedicated to hydrogen as a fuel, not only for our rockets and cars
but also for the mitochondria in our cells.
It is the fire of life that gets stimulated and if one needs healing that fire will be directed
exactly to the place it is most needed. It is a perfect fire that is created when hydrogen is
administered with oxygen. Perfect in that it burns coolly because hydrogen is the perfect
antioxidant.
We can create a flawless hydrogen flame by balancing the three gases so that the
mitochondria fire up their production of ATP. With sufficient hydrogen the
mitochondria will burn without oxidative prejudice because the hydrogen is putting out
the fires of oxidative stress even though it is the fuel that lights the fire.
Hydrogen is one of the primordial elements that fueled the development of all life on
Earth. Human beings cannot live without hydrogen. While science refers to us as
carbon-based life forms, man is also a hydrogen-based life form. When plants absorb
sunlight, they store negatively charged hydrogen ions through the process of
photosynthesis. When you eat unprocessed plants, your body’s cells utilize the nutrients
in those plants with the electrical charge of the hydrogen ions. When your body burns
hydrogen and oxygen, it generates the energy you need to live.
4All living things must have hydrogen to sustain life. The human body must breathe to
get oxygen, and must eat and drink to get hydrogen. The primary sources of hydrogen
ions for the human body are fresh uncooked plants, fruits, vegetables, and water. Now
we can inhale it directly in the form of molecular hydrogen gas and that gas can also be
dissolved in water, so we can drink it and doctors can inject it.
Hydrogen First
Doctors and everyone else needs to understand that we flood the body with hydrogen,
oxygen and carbon dioxide as a first course of action. We already know that properly
used medical gases can change patients presenting condition in emergency situations.
However, conditions that have not responded to oxygen will respond if hydrogen is
added to the mix.
There is no medical mystery here. Deep sea divers know all about this. At the deepest
depths hydrogen is life. As we shall see in the following chapter on medical gases many
lessons can be learned about hydrogen from the field of hyperbaric medicine. Doctors in
this field know all about medical priorities and first course of action when a diver comes
up too fast and gets the bends. The first thing of course is to put them in a pressure
chamber.
These doctors also have it down pat with using hydrogen as the ultimate preventive
medicine. The deeper divers go the more stress/pressure they are under. The deeper they
go the more hydrogen needs to be in their tanks and interesting enough the less oxygen.
Hydrogen is new to intensive care treatment as it is to the entire world of modern
medicine. However, once we see that hydrogen belongs right up on top with oxygen in
intensive care we understand why hydrogen belongs in first place in most protocols for
the treatment of everything. It would be hard indeed to think of something hydrogen
would not be good for.
Hydrogen is also the perfect anti-aging medicine, which will eventually find itself
everywhere and the women will go crazy over it when they find out what it will do to
their skin. Actually hydrogen is already everywhere there is life. Life is not possible
without hydrogen.
Full Medical Protocol
This book will deal with H2, O2, CO2, H2O, O3 (Ozone) and even singlet oxygen,
which is a temporary state of highly energized oxygen. Notice that carbon is included.
For a fuller protocol all we have to do is add sulfur, magnesium, iodine, selenium,
potassium, bicarbonates and sodium. Then we have the main ingredients necessary for
life or to save lives. Though hydrogen and magnesium are fundamental to pain relief
medical marijuana needs to be added to this list of essentials in dealing with cancer and every other disease.

Read more:
http://hydrogenmedicine.info/

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Old 18-01-2018, 05:22 PM   #24
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Testimonial by surfsteve: This is just quackery!

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Never trash the truth because it differs to your uninformed opinion.

An essential ingredient of "miracle healing water" is hydrogen ( + one other essential ingredient), and miracle healing water can be produced at home purely from nature without a machine.
Miracle healing water has been tested over hundreds of years (and it is not meant for "foot baths". You must drink it for the health benefits.)

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Old 18-01-2018, 06:04 PM   #25
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Read post 23 again and substitute the word water every time it mentions hydrogen and anyone can see that everything he wrote about hydrogen is also true about water... Gees. Wake up!
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Old 18-01-2018, 06:07 PM   #26
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Read post 23 again and substitute the word water every time it mentions hydrogen and anyone can see that everything he wrote about hydrogen is also true about water... Gees. Wake up!
Read post 24. and then read this:
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320447

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Ok what's so special?
From your own link:
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No one has ever figured out what gives the water at Lourdes its healing properties
But if you pay me lots of money I can show you how to make it at home!

Gees!
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Old 19-01-2018, 08:06 AM   #29
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Ok what's so special?
From your own link:

But if you pay me lots of money I can show you how to make it at home!

Gees!


ABSOLUTE LIES - DR. SIRCUS DOES NOT SELL MACHINES - He only vouches for the benefits of any he has tried
That info is now dated and does not ask for money.

I've given that information out for free many a time - No machine is necessary. It cannot be made by machine _ I don't charge for anything

The info has been given many times

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Old 19-01-2018, 08:20 AM   #30
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This is not the first time grim has promoted unconventional products on this forum...
Why thank you - that's the nicest thing you've ever said ABOUT me.
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Old 19-01-2018, 09:33 AM   #31
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Why thank you - that's the nicest thing you've ever said ABOUT me.
Not necessarily grim. I chose the word 'unconventional' with care. Some readers might think that was needlessly generous!
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Old 25-01-2018, 12:28 AM   #32
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I don't know that it's quackery because I haven't done enough research on it but for now I'm assuming it probably is as I haven't seen enough evidence to indicate otherwise.
I've just listened to Cliff High interview where he talks about it (and C60).
http://sarahwestall.com/tag/cliff-high/
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I've just listened to Cliff High interview where he talks about it (and C60).
http://sarahwestall.com/tag/cliff-high/
Don;t soil the thread by posting fakery alongside - I have already exposed c60 - it is not the real thing, it's fake.
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For synthetic (fake) C60 see:

https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=319768
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Old 27-01-2018, 05:27 PM   #35
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Not necessarily grim. I chose the word 'unconventional' with care. Some readers might think that was needlessly generous!
Not necessarily, thermion, generosity towards the grim is never needless.
No reason to get your pins all in a twist

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