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Old 17-01-2012, 12:37 PM   #41
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The state may be their church, but it isn't MINE.
And that is exactly the point my friend.
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Old 17-01-2012, 12:40 PM   #42
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And that is exactly the point my friend.
Oh, okay, I thought you were telling me it was 'the' church. he he, I am a bit daft this morning.
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Old 17-01-2012, 12:46 PM   #43
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If God asked you to kill !

Understanding the state is the church, the killing etc going in the name of the tax payers etc, seems to me there is a deep dark truth.

Its like people not willing to kill an animal to eat so someone else does the dirty work for them and serves it all pretty and stuff.



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Old 17-01-2012, 01:37 PM   #44
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If your god asked you to kill for him, would you do it?

I am asking this because on the In God We Trust movie, many of those Christians said that they would.

Would YOU?
My G-d is perfectly just, therefore any commandment to kill would also be perfectly just.

What if someone was breaking into your home with the intention of hurting your family, would you kill that person if that was the only option?
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Old 17-01-2012, 01:42 PM   #45
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Mandy, this isn't about defending yourself, this is about killing someone for your god.

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My G-d is perfectly just, therefore any commandment to kill would also be perfectly just.

What if someone was breaking into your home with the intention of hurting your family, would you kill that person if that was the only option?
There is your answer, previously answered.
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Old 17-01-2012, 01:44 PM   #46
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There is your answer, previously answered.
Are we not allowed to speculate behind the reasoning here? Why else would a perfectly just G-d have you kill someone if not for justice?

For sake of discussion: What if someone was breaking into your home with the intention of hurting your family, would you kill that person if that was the only option?
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Old 17-01-2012, 01:47 PM   #47
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Are we not allowed to speculate behind the reasoning here? Why else would a perfectly just G-d have you kill someone if not for justice?

For sake of discussion: What if someone was breaking into your home with the intention of hurting your family, would you kill that person if that was the only option?
If your god said GO KILL THAT MAN, because I said so. Would you do it?

Yes or no.
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Old 17-01-2012, 01:52 PM   #48
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If your god said GO KILL THAT MAN, because I said so. Would you do it?

Yes or no.
If a perfectly just G-d asks you kill someone and you don't, then you would be violating justice. The only reason a perfectly just G-d would ask you to kill is for a perfectly just reason. The answer is a resounding yes. So, why would a perfectly just G-d ask you to kill someone?

But don't think you're too special, I'm sure that given the proper circumstances you would kill as well which is why you won't answer my question.

What are your thoughts on abortion?
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If a perfectly just G-d asks you kill someone and you don't, then you would be violating justice. The only reason a perfectly just G-d would ask you to kill is for a perfectly just reason. The answer is a resounding yes. So, why would a perfectly just G-d ask you to kill someone?

But don't think you're too special, I'm sure that given the proper circumstances you would kill as well which is why you won't answer my question.
I dont think I am special, I think I am equal.

GOD would never ask me to kill because killing damages the SOUL.

If it was in self defense, I would still only defend myself. If it came to kill or be killed, I would rather be killed.

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If a perfectly just G-d asks you kill someone and you don't, then you would be violating justice. The only reason a perfectly just G-d would ask you to kill is for a perfectly just reason. The answer is a resounding yes. So, why would a perfectly just G-d ask you to kill someone?

But don't think you're too special, I'm sure that given the proper circumstances you would kill as well which is why you won't answer my question.
ur a joke the things u connect into sentences is nonscence, the very fact that u think u need to be here and defend ur religion speaks enough of your own belief in that religion, i bet u see a crusader when u look in the mirror
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Old 17-01-2012, 02:01 PM   #51
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Are we not allowed to speculate behind the reasoning here? Why else would a perfectly just G-d have you kill someone if not for justice?

For sake of discussion: What if someone was breaking into your home with the intention of hurting your family, would you kill that person if that was the only option?
i think it is a little bit different to kill someone in self defense and to kill someone because an imaginary voice - or a book - tells you to.

Check your priorities, they seem a little skewed
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So which god told Moses to slaughter the Caananites?
Assuming that Moses even existed, then it would be Yahweh - aka the Devil.
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i think it is a little bit different to kill someone in self defense and to kill someone because an imaginary voice - or a book - tells you to.

Check your priorities, they seem a little skewed
God would never ask you to kill anyone..he can handle that himself..If your hearing voices telling you to kill people..get help..
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I dont think I am special, I think I am equal.

GOD would never ask me to kill because killing damages the SOUL.

If it was in self defense, I would still only defend myself. If it came to kill or be killed, I would rather be killed.
So you would allow someone to murder your family rather than kill that person in defense?

What about abortion? yay or nay?
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ur a joke the things u connect into sentences is nonscence, the very fact that u think u need to be here and defend ur religion speaks enough of your own belief in that religion, i bet u see a crusader when u look in the mirror
nonscence pure and utter nonscense.
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i think it is a little bit different to kill someone in self defense and to kill someone because an imaginary voice - or a book - tells you to.

Check your priorities, they seem a little skewed
lolz...what if said "imaginary voice" tells me to kill in self defense?

Aaaand, like I said, if a perfectly just G-d asks you to kill then it would be for a perfectly just reason. So, maybe the better question would be, would you kill in the name of justice?
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So you would allow someone to murder your family rather than kill that person in defense?

What about abortion? yay or nay?
Yes, I do not have it in me to kill.

I would never get an abortion either.
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Old 17-01-2012, 02:22 PM   #58
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Yes, I do not have it in me to kill.
So do you believe that killing directed by faith is 'worse' than killing directed by rationality, or do you consider all killing to be the same?
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Yes, I do not have it in me to kill.
I would never allow someone to steal my family's lives.

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I would never get an abortion either.
Good for you, and I agree.
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So you would allow someone to murder your family rather than kill that person in defense?

What about abortion? yay or nay?
It is very rare that self defence would involve killing someone, since self defence must involve only proportionate force. Even if you did kill someone in legitimate self defence of yourself and/or your family, then God did not tell you to do it.

Same with abortion - you make the choice, because God does not say directly.

The question was, "If God told you to kill someone, ...," and I agree with several of the posters so far, that this question is meaningless because the real God would never say such a thing in any way, shape or form. Such a question could therefore only derive from the Devil or from your own delusional thinking.
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