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Old 17-01-2012, 08:08 AM   #21
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My God wouldn't bother to ask.

I wonder if Moses had a brain tumor.

Personally, we don't kill Anything around here if we can help it.

Even bugs get a free pass to go somewhere else.

Except mosquitoes!
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Old 17-01-2012, 08:12 AM   #22
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If your god asked you to kill for him, would you do it?

I am asking this because on the In God We Trust movie, many of those Christians said that they would.

Would YOU?
An interesting question, the answer to which is yes. However, it is only fair to return the question.

If you decided it was right to kill, would you kill?

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Old 17-01-2012, 08:22 AM   #23
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But you know even the LORD God who made Adam was Created by God the Great Creator... the LORD God is almost Perfect.
You are closer to the truth than anyone I have come across, I want to applaud you.

Here is where you go wrong, they are not male.

An image of the created one stands in New York, the greatest idol in the history of the world.

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Old 17-01-2012, 08:28 AM   #24
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God the Creator would never tell you to kill...
That is truth.
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Old 17-01-2012, 08:39 AM   #25
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If your god asked you to kill for him, would you do it?

I am asking this because on the In God We Trust movie, many of those Christians said that they would.

Would YOU?
I watched the vid, I see what Constantine saw, a powerful tool, and the blood has flowed, so willing to kill.


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Old 17-01-2012, 11:29 AM   #26
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But you know even the LORD God who made Adam was Created by God the Great Creator... the LORD God is almost Perfect.

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You are closer to the truth than anyone I have come across, I want to applaud you.

Here is where you go wrong, they are not male.

An image of the created one stands in New York, the greatest idol in the history of the world.

Just think well what you have just said...
God the Great Creator is not defined by any gender.

But the LORD God is a Title... if He was a female than He would be
the LORD Goddess, a She... but He was not...
Why do you have to bend the written word to "make" it "better" to you..?!?


and the Idol that stands in New York even when many say it could represent Lucifer, and Lucifer is the Morning Star, and as such the seed Jesus was from, being by this association the LORD God... well... even like that to me that idol is to someone different... maybe to Salome... or another woman of the same kind.

On Salome:

Salome (Greek: Σαλωμη, Salōmē), the Daughter of Herodias
Christian traditions depict her as an icon of dangerous female seductiveness, for instance depicting as erotic her dance mentioned in the New Testament (in some later transformations further iconised to the dance of the seven veils), or concentrate on her lighthearted and cold foolishness that, according to the gospels, led to John the Baptist's death.

Salome in Moreau's painting:

No longer was she merely the dancing-girl who extorts a cry of lust and concupiscence from an old man by the lascivious contortions of her body; who breaks the will, masters the mind of a King by the spectacle of her quivering bosoms, heaving belly and tossing thighs; she was now revealed in a sense as the symbolic incarnation of world-old Vice, the goddess of immortal Hysteria, the Curse of Beauty supreme above all other beauties by the cataleptic spasm that stirs her flesh and steels her muscles, - a monstrous Beast of the Apocalypse, indifferent, irresponsible, insensible, poisoning.


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Old 17-01-2012, 11:31 AM   #27
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If your god asked you to kill for him, would you do it?

I am asking this because on the In God We Trust movie, many of those Christians said that they would.

Would YOU?
I dont think my god would ask such a thing from me if he/she/it would then he/she/it wouldnt be worth to call itself god
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Old 17-01-2012, 11:34 AM   #28
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If your god asked you to kill for him, would you do it?

I am asking this because on the In God We Trust movie, many of those Christians said that they would.

Would YOU?
First question on my lips would be, ''can't you do it yourself''?

If the reply was ''no'', then...

Sorry ol' mate, then you ain't a god.
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Old 17-01-2012, 11:43 AM   #29
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So, to put it simply - if an imaginary sky fairy said kill then you would have no hesitation?

And so begins the world's ills, when one man can kill another man, because of some obscure passage in a book - and this is in some way acceptable - no wonder the world is in such a fucked up place.
No, the book testifies of those in communion with God. God told Moses directly to stone someone for trespassing the clear command not to work on the Sabbath given in that time.

Either you believe it is possible to have communion with God or you don't. If you do, and you ask me if He would tell me to kill someone and I would listen, of course I would, if he really is the true God. And I don't think you know entirely what God would or would not tell me.
That's exactly my point.

That you would kill someone because the president was set in a book that was written by men, to satisfy your own yearning of a belief system is rather quite worrying.

Try this on for size: God created all men equal before him, correct? He also gave man free will but posited ten guidelines to live by in order that men shall remain equal.

And despite that, if a voice in your head told you that it was God, and commanded you to do something that even God condemned, you claim that for Glory you would do it - even if it goes against the basic constructs of existing peacefully with your brother.

And by the way, in God's eyes, a man of Islam is your brother, a man of Judea is your brother, a man of atheism is your brother - you really have to think outside of the human paradigm to get this. unfortunately the books of faith, the Bible, the Torah, the Koran, all these exist within the human paradigm - because they are not the words of God, they are the words of man.

The God of the Christ is clearly not the same god as the god of Abraham and Moses - hopefully when God speaks to you, you will be able to discern which God it is - the vengeful God or the God of compassion and love.
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Old 17-01-2012, 11:51 AM   #30
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Just think well what you have just said...
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God the Great Creator is not defined by any gender.

But the LORD God is a Title... if He was a female than He would be
the LORD Goddess, a She... but He was not...
Why do you have to bend the written word to "make" it "better" to you..?!?
I am unbending !

I dont need to make anything better to me, I simply stand for truth.

You judge in error, big time.
I get that a lot.



You are so close yet so far.
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Old 17-01-2012, 12:13 PM   #31
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God the Great Creator is not defined by any gender.

But the LORD God is a Title... if He was a female than He would be
the LORD Goddess, a She... but He was not...
Why do you have to bend the written word to "make" it "better" to you..?!?

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I am unbending !


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I dont need to make anything better to me, I simply stand for truth.
that is why you receive it...

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You judge in error, big time.
I get that a lot.
I just friendly correct you...
hope you like it.


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You are so close yet so far.
that's the Duality of everything...
but I would say your feeling with your Soul the Bridge/distance to mine.

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Old 17-01-2012, 12:17 PM   #32
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I dont think my god would ask such a thing from me if he/she/it would then he/she/it wouldnt be worth to call itself god
+1. Although, sometimes in this "fallen world" it is sadly necessary to take up arms, especially in the defence of the weak and helpless.

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My 'god' exists within my heart. My heart would not allow me to knowingly take another's life without their consent, and only then I'd be doing it out of respect for their wishes and to ease their pain.

If you really think about it, your 'god' is in the same place as mine too and not in any book or 'holy' building. It's up to you if you choose to listen to him/her/it or not. That's why you're here.
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Old 17-01-2012, 12:18 PM   #34
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If your god asked you to kill for him, would you do it?

I am asking this because on the In God We Trust movie, many of those Christians said that they would.

Would YOU?
No
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Old 17-01-2012, 12:21 PM   #35
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+1. Although, sometimes in this "fallen world" it is sadly necessary to take up arms, especially in the defence of the weak and helpless.

Mandy
Mandy, this isn't about defending yourself, this is about killing someone for your god.

If you haven't seen the video, I suggest you watch it. Then you would see why I support separation between church and state in the USA.
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+1. Although, sometimes in this "fallen world" it is sadly necessary to take up arms, especially in the defence of the weak and helpless.

Mandy
Indeed.

I suspect this thread is not about the killing but rather is an implied suggestion that killing directed by faith is bad - part of the idea that rationality is superior to faith. Hence my question asking the OP whether she would ever kill if she herself deemed it necessary.

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Old 17-01-2012, 12:29 PM   #37
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Mandy, this isn't about defending yourself, this is about killing someone for your god.

If you haven't seen the video, I suggest you watch it. Then you would see why I support separation between church and state in the USA.
Hurt, the state is the church, mystery Babylon.

DC is 100% religious !!!

You have seen the map I post right ?



Catch phrases-
By the people for the people
Separation of church and state


By what people for what people ??
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Old 17-01-2012, 12:33 PM   #38
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+1. Although, sometimes in this "fallen world" it is sadly necessary to take up arms, especially in the defence of the weak and helpless.

Mandy
This thread is not about that Mandy.
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Hurt, the state is the church, mystery Babylon.

DC is 100% religious !!!

You have seen the map I post right ?



Catch phrases-
By the people for the people
Separation of church and state


By what people for what people ??
The state may be their church, but it isn't MINE.
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By what people for what people ??
that's the best question so far...
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