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Old 26-05-2014, 08:34 PM   #41
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What happened to him?
I seem to recall that it was a publicity stunt that went wrong, a plane trailing a banner that got caught up in the planes tail.

Apparently the pilot went a bit off the rails after that and blamed Farage for ruining his life, he started making death threats against him. He was found dead toward the end of last year.
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Old 26-05-2014, 08:41 PM   #42
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Im not "defending" anyone: its YOUR outpouring which is indefensible, giving a cheeky wink and claiming you "know" that crash was some sort of fake. Your bullshitting, firstly yourself, and then attempting the same with this forum. I'm sure you don't like me telling you that, and I don't mean to be cruel, but your statement is ridiculous.

Look at farages blood pressure, video of him trembling with shock, the guy was seconds from death and absolutely shitting himself. But its all part of your "entertainment" and self constructed perch above it all, where only you know what is genuine and what is fake while sat at your computer. Its pitiable, in truth, and I wish you could do better

Whether that crash was an attempt on Farage's life, that's a better speculation, but not resolved. I'm sure Cameron is overjoyed Farage survived...
I'm sorry you feel that way. You took my remark too seriously. It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. Not meant to offend. I do wish you would stop attacking me. If you dislike my views that's OK but please will you confine your remarks to what I say in future. It's unfair of you to make false accusations to try and assassinate my character. I don't do it and I expect the same fair treatment from others, if that's OK with you?
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Old 26-05-2014, 09:03 PM   #43
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I'm sorry you feel that way. You took my remark too seriously. It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. Not meant to offend. I do wish you would stop attacking me. If you dislike my views that's OK but please will you confine your remarks to what I say in future. It's unfair of you to make false accusations to try and assassinate my character. I don't do it and I expect the same fair treatment from others, if that's OK with you?
Ah but this is how the mind justifies itself after the ego has indulged. After all, you called me a defender of psychopaths when its your "sense of humour" that now doesnt pretend to special knowledge but makes a joke about a man who is shown in an image having just survived a plane crash: then you talk to me about projection!

Comment on the thread take the consequences: I do: whats your excuse?
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Old 26-05-2014, 09:06 PM   #44
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Ah but this is how the mind justifies itself after the ego has indulged. After all, you called me a defender of psychopaths when its your "sense of humour" that now doesnt pretend to special knowledge but makes a joke about a man who is shown in an image having just survived a plane crash: then you talk to me about projection!

Comment on the thread take the consequences: I do: whats your excuse?
OK! You win!
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Old 26-05-2014, 09:24 PM   #45
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It's unfair of you to make false accusations to try and assassinate my character. I don't do it and I expect the same fair treatment from others, if that's OK with you?
This is not a dig at anyone on this thread, but I'd love to frame that on this forum's wall.

And eh, that Farage drinks a good pint of bitter, oooh aaahhh. One of us he is.

coz we know nationalism is the solution don't we?

No it ain't. This kind of thing is the solution:


http://www.neweconomics.org/

Economics as if people and the planet mattered.
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Old 26-05-2014, 09:48 PM   #46
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All systems eventually fail; Rome, Assyria etc as will the USA and Federal Europe in their time but by the time it fails the Union will have Balkanised the whole of Europe so that when it fails it fails big time.
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Old 26-05-2014, 11:19 PM   #47
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All systems eventually fail; Rome, Assyria etc as will the USA and Federal Europe in their time but by the time it fails the Union will have Balkanised the whole of Europe so that when it fails it fails big time.
Well what applies to the EU applies to the entire global system coming together through trilateralism.

Globalism has never been about dragging the developing world up: its been about dragging the developed world DOWN, to the lowest common denominator

I certainly know how close you are to the truth. If people stop watching X-Factor and look outside the window, its a cold wind that blows: and thats not suprising:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...n_3043194.html

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...risons-2525215

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Parts of Wales and the North East of England are poorer than regions in Romania, Poland and Slovakia, according to statistics from the EU.
Its not as if the ECB doesnt know!

But then, try making a living as one of the most taxed workforce in Europe:

http://www.thelocal.de/20130823/51555
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Old 26-05-2014, 11:25 PM   #48
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I have to say, I talked the other day about a Conservative / UKIP coalition and how horrendous that would be... I think this is what's gonna happen.
Its not Dave its really really not. Farage might get a bit of fun tormenting them but there will be NO PACT. UKIP's membership would simply not wear it and the leadership doesn't want it. To them the Tories are bastards who put their party and their pensions ahead of the country and that is a deep rooted kind of contempt

Co-alition after an election: that's a different story, becuase thats really the hand of fate. Best way to avoid the need for a UKIP co-alition:

Vote UKIP of course

And tell everyone you know why you are doing it

As long as you agree with getting out of the EU

Otherwise vote Green

If the country could sack the entire Tory and Labour party and kick them out of the commons

How good would that feel?
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Old 26-05-2014, 11:34 PM   #49
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^This is starting to sound like "I love the EU if it keeps my benefit check coming"

Some peoples price is cheap. And what a perfect example of the mechanism by which organizations get co-opted and controlled: chuck the members a bit of a bone so they dont object: in Vorwahr's case he just wants to feel the comfort of big brother tucking him up in bed at night. Sweet really.

As for not knowing the difference between global trade and global government.... oh boy
We have no alternative other than global free markets in place to take over from the eu

Now you think we the uk can compete in those markets
When we can't evenake a bloody car these days
Our steel industry is Indian ffs
And what's more a lot of those now in ukip were Tories who did this
Now the eu has been formed they want to dismantle it
Ukip voters must have fucking short memories or selective memory
Even Farage was a city boy
It's the elites and ceos who could really suffer because of the eu
Not avg working man who benifits from spending power and buisness deals not to mention Eu subsidies
But somehow ukip have sold the eu to them as anti working class
Tell me who holds the most single seats in the eu and who is supporting them with no votes on policies
It's the socialists being fucked over by the right wing parties Inc ukip

Well done simple folk your misplaced loyalty will hang you all wait and see


Btw think I'm talking shit google it see who stands up for working class in Eu
And then listen to Farage boast about how he objects on a regular basis
Go look it's all there online ,
demand to hear ukips manifesto plans
No bs from Farage demand to see it in black n white
See what his real plans are compared to what he says .

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Old 26-05-2014, 11:48 PM   #50
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You could say ukip played a blinder and are teaching the establishment a lesson ,
But a quick bit of googling would tell you a completely different story
One word of advice stay waay from loony right sites

It's going to shock you unless your right wing
And want to see our nhs disappear
And more of a police state ,
How the fuck will ukip decide who is a valid immigrant and who isn't how will they know who is here illegally bloody magic ?
They would need id cards , stricter controls there's no other way to implement ukips promises ,
Ukip can't wave a wand stop illegal immigrants ffs
It can make it possible for police to randomly check id cards
Though .

UN fucking believable how stupid people were to vote for a party who will sit beside far right parties in the eu and object to every policy put forward by the socialists and left of centre rties to help the working man
Even the lib dems stood up for working class ukip hust want out of europe
So They say but Look at how bloody Happy tbey were to be elected into it .

You just voted in everything you wanted to stop while under the impression you were doing the opposite

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Old 27-05-2014, 12:01 AM   #51
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You just voted in everything you wanted to stop while under the impression you were doing the opposite
A bit like voting to get out of the EU whilst never having been a part of it in the first place

Funny ol' game innit
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Old 27-05-2014, 12:03 AM   #52
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A bit like voting to get out of the EU whilst never having been a part of it in the first place

Funny ol' game innit
A UKIP majority government would need no referendum: leave the way we came in: OUT!!!
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A UKIP majority government would need no referendum: leave the way we came in: OUT!!!
Yeah! Let's build a moat
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Old 27-05-2014, 12:13 AM   #54
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A UKIP majority government would need no referendum: leave the way we came in: OUT!!!
And what about Scotland who is by all accounts pro Eu
Drag them out of europe against their will ?
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Old 27-05-2014, 12:18 AM   #55
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And what about Scotland who is by all accounts pro Eu
Drag them out of europe against their will ?
Hardly relevant, as the Scots are going to vote to be independant, so its not going to worry you. Is it? I mean, you are certain its going that way?

Otherwise there is this thing, right, called democracy

If you register to vote, whether or not you use your vote, and whether the party or proposition you vote for wins the vote, you bind yourself to respect that vote

I have told you to be mindful of your power.

It should scare you a little

Its responsibility

So please, don't cry to me about fairness. Play the game or sit it out.
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Hardly relevant, as the Scots are going to vote to be independant, so its not going to worry you. Is it? I mean, you are certain its going that way?

Otherwise there is this thing, right, called democracy

If you register to vote, whether or not you use your vote, and whether the party or proposition you vote for wins the vote, you bind yourself to respect that vote

I have told you to be mindful of your power.

It should scare you a little

Its responsibility

So please, don't cry to me about fairness. Play the game or sit it out.
Mindful of my power , yes master
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Old 27-05-2014, 08:47 AM   #57
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Looking at Aunty's News this morning, it seems the Electorate have played right into their hands...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27583545
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Prime Minister David Cameron will travel to Brussels for an informal dinner with other EU leaders where the election results will be discussed.

Following the elections, Mr Cameron has pushed the case for changes in the relationship between Brussels and EU member states in a series of phone calls to other heads of government.

The prime minister telephoned fellow EU leaders, including Germany's Angela Merkel, ahead of Tuesday evening's meeting in Brussels to emphasise that the results of the European elections, and the low turnout, have underlined the need for reform.

UKIP leader Nigel Farage said the party was a truly national force and had "momentum" behind it.
Obviously Angela is the most important of EU leaders.

Renegotiation will be seen as the "Compromise" position, it's the classic "Democratic" play. I'm guessing they will take back powers that benefit the elite. For example, the EU will not be able to prevent Fracking in the UK on safety/environmental grounds, they will however have trading rights to buy any output at market rate.
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Old 27-05-2014, 08:59 AM   #58
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Red face subtle nationalism

The Great British Menu - series guide:
  1. Chefs battle for the chance to serve lunch for the Queen's 80th birthday.
  2. Chefs go head-to-head to win the chance to cook for the British Ambassador to France.
  3. Chefs compete to cook their dishes for a banquet at London's Gherkin building.
  4. Chefs compete to prepare their dishes at a homecoming banquet for armed forces personnel.
  5. Chefs compete to cook their dishes at a banquet to celebrate the UK's best local produce.
  6. The nation's top chefs are challenged to cook for the ultimate street party
  7. Some of the nation's greatest chefs battle for the chance to cook an Olympic banquet
  8. The nation's greatest chefs compete to cook at a special banquet for Comic Relief
  9. The nation's chefs compete to cook at a banquet marking the 70th anniversary of D-Day.

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Old 27-05-2014, 09:30 AM   #59
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Unhappy gaslighting

Noticed this circulating social media at the time of the election. I think it's based on a Daily Fail.



The premise is that our nation is being invaded by immigrants (of specific religion). Notice how it plays on all our insecurities, not only the protection of children, but of memories of being oppressed at school as a child.

However, at the same time as denouncing oppression it tries to normalize war (or at least the visibility of crippled ex-soldiers). It assumes that soldiers are heroes (no questions asked) and that it's appropriate for children to actively advertise their support for them at school.
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Old 27-05-2014, 09:46 AM   #60
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If the country could sack the entire Tory and Labour party and kick them out of the commons

How good would that feel?
It would feel very good John, but if that means UKIP run the country it would be a different kind of disaster...
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