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Old 31-01-2017, 07:50 PM   #4821
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"Money" is an abstraction, or, as Stephen Jourdain would say, "Purely a thought. Nothing. Therefore, pouf! Thank you and goodbye."

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When gold and silver coin were the U. S. money of account, it did not matter that they were called money! Gold and silver is wealth, is produced by human exertion, is barter per se or a medium of exchange determined by its use.

The nature of “money” is at the root of all our problems. There is not any undesirable condition in our nation today that cannot be accurately and totally traced back to the root of all evil, the power to create money.

It is not who has the power to create money that is the root of evil. It is the power to create money at all! There is only one way to abolish the evil of money creation — abolish money.

Money is an abstract term that was applied to barter in error.

Money is an abstract term for the mental entity that has replaced the barter.

No person or agency, government or private, shall determine what anyone must accept as Lawful Tender!

“No state shall … pass any … Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts …” The U.S. Constitution

No coins shall ever be minted bearing an abstract monetary term.

All coin shall bear its commodity specification, fineness of purity, and weight specification, such as G.999-1,000 gr. (Gold .999 Pure 1000 Grains) or S.999500 gr. (Silver .999 Pure 500 Grains) or .999-1500 gr. (Platinum .999 Pure 1500 Grains) or C.999-750 gr. (Copper .999 Pure 750 Grains), etc.

No person or agency, government or private, shall determine how many of any coins of any commodity shall be coined.

No person shall be prohibited from bringing metal of the proper coin purity to the mint for coining free of charge with the costs of minting to be paid out of general funds of the government.

No person or agency, government or private, shall set any value or parity between the coins as minted and any other commodity or between the coins themselves.

No person shall be prohibited from fabricating coins of private design, using the same marking system described above, using any commodity, in any quantity, but there shall be severe penalties for any improper marking.

Banking procedures shall remain relatively the same as they have been, except that all bookkeeping and check writing must specify the commodity and its weight deposited or ownership transferred.

All state and federal taxes shall be payable in gold and/or silver coin. All state and federal expenses shall be paid with gold and/or silver coin as specified in its contractual arrangements. Checks may be used to transfer ownership of government coin.

The specifications, as outlined above, would cancel the injustices and corruptions being suffered daily in our nation and true progress would be resumed.

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Old 01-02-2017, 02:38 AM   #4822
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Quotes from Treatise on Monetary Reform:


"Today, there is not enough gold or silver coin interchangeable with flat. Fiat was acceptable originally because it was interchangeable with the precious metal coin (barter), but now the barter has been eliminated and we are using only the memory of barter. Modern money is strictly mental. However unbelievable that may be, it is fact: dollars are make-believe units of modern, mental money, the Greatest Hoax on Earth."

"Dollar, which was a word to express a quantity of gold or silver in the form of a coin, is now a word accepted as a unit of this imaginary medium of exchange — mental money. These imaginary dollar units are represented by Federal Reserve notes. A Federal Reserve note is a paper token, as evidence of a created dollar quantity of imaginary debt, written as a number entry on the books of a commercial bank. It is printed at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing on orders of the Treasury, signed by officials of the Treasury, given to the Federal Reserve for distribution, and accepted by the borrower as a medium of exchange for goods and services of value over a thousand times greater than the Federal Reserve note (dollar bill) itself."

"Buying and selling with mental money is nothing more than a gigantic confidence game. Mental money is just a medium of exchange that does not have any value itself except to the one who gave something of value for its proxy representative (Fed. notes). Like a poker chip, that value will only be worth something if the money's holder can eventually obtain something of value from someone else. No matter whether it is Federal Reserve notes, copper-nickel token coinage or credit cards used in purchases, the dollars they transfer ownership of are only imaginary mediums of exchange (mental money)."


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Old 12-02-2017, 05:23 PM   #4823
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"Supreme intelligence is to have no illusions." Jiddu Krishnamurti

How many people on this planet can say they have no illusions around money?

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Q: Is the "dollar" a stable currency?

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A dollar is an intangible unit of measure – not a thing! It is therefore as stable as an ounce, gallon, or inch. Credit slips, denominated in dollars, vary in value against other credit slips denominated in marks, pesos, or yens since the public's faith varies from one country's unit of nothing to another's. "The dollar sank," drones the newslady, "in light to moderate trading against the yen" - as senseless a statement as "The quart sank in light to moderate trading against the liter." But then, a hoax this big must be concealed well... The fact that dollars of nothing vary in "value" against yens of nothing is of little concern,unless we plan to visit Japan or acquire some of their prolific output. To avoid being affected – "buy American" as the slogan goes ... assuming you can still find anything being produced here. Likewise, to avoid the fluctuations between money and credit - avoid credit. This is easier said than done but the more we separate from the entrapment of credit, the less we are affected by its whimsical market.?

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Old 12-02-2017, 05:48 PM   #4824
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Add 10 trillion. Now that's intelligent. Oh, the horror of it all.


http://thedailybanter.com/2017/01/se...-10-trillion/?

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Old 01-03-2017, 12:36 AM   #4825
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How the economy is kept from collapsing. Could very well be true.



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...”So if you found out that Proctor & Gamble or Crest Toothpaste was going under, you would be worried—you would go Wow, maybe this is the beginning of the economic collapse. So they don't allow anything to collapse. There's no other explanation, in my opinion, on how they are keeping this thing together.
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Old 03-04-2018, 01:00 PM   #4826
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Can someone explain to me why 12.5kg of Gold Bullion is under £400 and 1kg of Silver cost more than £400? Is silver more sought after than gold now?

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https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/gold...-5kg-gold-bar/

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Old 04-04-2018, 08:27 AM   #4827
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Can someone explain to me why 12.5kg of Gold Bullion is under £400 and 1kg of Silver cost more than £400? Is silver more sought after than gold now?

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https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/gold...-5kg-gold-bar/

https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/silv...r-bullion-bar/
The price for that gold is £392,196. Dont know how you came up with £400 for that much gold.
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:56 AM   #4828
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Even gold is abstract it's supposed to be "real" wealth but in truth there is no such thing except perhaps food which can be exchanged for other types of food. The alternative
Is only if you wish to create war and you want metals or other similar items but definitely money may as well be just water
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Old 04-04-2018, 02:54 PM   #4829
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Even gold is abstract it's supposed to be "real" wealth but in truth there is no such thing except perhaps food which can be exchanged for other types of food. The alternative
Is only if you wish to create war and you want metals or other similar items but definitely money may as well be just water
Its pretty real. I sold some coins off not too long ago for a pretty nice price.
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