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Old 12-02-2010, 02:08 PM   #1
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What is the illuminati?

Are you referring to the perfectibilists? their goals or aims

Or something else, I am very confused.
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Old 12-02-2010, 02:46 PM   #2
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What is the illuminati?

Are you referring to the perfectibilists? their goals or aims

Or something else, I am very confused.
The Illuminati is a global network of interbreeding bloodlines, satanists, occultists, witch covens, luciferians and the rest. Their goal is global domination, they use warfare, famine and much more to keep humanity in a constant state of fear and terror. Much of their agenda is complete but they need to have a third world war to ensure "there will never be a war again", also they will continue to use their false environment awareness movement to cull and contol populations of people.
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Old 12-02-2010, 02:59 PM   #3
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Two types:-

1. Lodges and groups that call themselves illuminati.

2. People who have reached a certain level of personal advancement and who do genuinely inspire others (as opposed to leading through fear). From the little that I understand about masonic ritual it would be at the point that you have mastered yourself and then begin to illuninate the way for those that follow you. Hence in theory I would expect (Peter don't laugh) all Lodge masters to be illuminati when they become PM.

Clearly there may be overlap between 1 and 2.
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The Illuminati is a global network of interbreeding bloodlines, satanists, occultists, witch covens, luciferians and the rest. Their goal is global domination, they use warfare, famine and much more to keep humanity in a constant state of fear and terror. Much of their agenda is complete but they need to have a third world war to ensure "there will never be a war again", also they will continue to use their false environment awareness movement to cull and contol populations of people.

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Old 12-02-2010, 08:46 PM   #5
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The Illuminati is a global network of interbreeding bloodlines, satanists, occultists, witch covens, luciferians and the rest. Their goal is global domination, they use warfare, famine and much more to keep humanity in a constant state of fear and terror. Much of their agenda is complete but they need to have a third world war to ensure "there will never be a war again", also they will continue to use their false environment awareness movement to cull and contol populations of people.
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What is the illuminati?

Are you referring to the perfectibilists? their goals or aims

Or something else, I am very confused.
I believe it to be the ones who run the show or prison depending on ones view.



and it goes a lot further back than the above.

Azaziel

A seraph who fell in love with Anah, a granddaughter of Cain. When the flood came, he carried her under his wing to some other planet. (Byron: Heaven and Earth.)

or,

Azazel enjoys the distinction of being the most mysterious extrahuman character in Jewish sacred literature.

“ The whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin. ”

— 1 Enoch 10:8

According to 1 Enoch (a book of the Apocrypha), Azazel (here spelled ‘ăzā’zyēl) was one of the chief Grigori, a group of fallen angels who married women. This same story (without any mention of Azazel) is told in Genesis 6:2-4:

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

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Old 12-02-2010, 09:30 PM   #7
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No! Bad answer!

Wrong thinking is punishable. Right thinking will be as quickly rewarded.
Any 'Brotherhood' that includes judges, lawyers, police, politicians, CEOs, world leaders, bankers, celebrities, etc. Throughout the generations is an HUGE conflict of interest for humanity as a whole. Out of interest in your or your "brotherhoods" book please inform me of which various punishments or rewards are advocated.

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Old 01-03-2010, 06:53 AM   #8
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Is Revelations 13, 10 referring to Satan's Secret society and spiritual captivity to Witchcraft?
Has the N.W.O. / Nazis Within the Order with its many branches, such as the "Free" Masons / Shriner's / Mafia / New Age Movement just to name a few, distributed occult paraphernalia into society to cause spiritual bondage / captivity to witchcraft? Is this how the N.W.O. places people into spiritually captivity Rev 13, 10? Are Games such as Ouija boards, tarot cards, even the "8" ball with its pyramid in the middle, forms of (divination)? Could role playing games such as Dungeons and Dragons be another method used to take people into captivity? Is magic art a method to lead victims into spiritual bondage, (which is the precursor to Transcendental Meditation, the secret ceremony used for distributing the “Spiritual Mark of the Beast”)? Has Harry Potter witchcraft books been distributed into society to lure people away from God and take them spiritually captive to witchcraft? Deuteronomy 18, 9 strictly forbids these practices.
Is it by spiritual captivity caused from these “games” / practices that people / victims are forced with witchcraft to go through the “secret ceremony” performed with transcendental meditation? In said transcendental meditation state, the victims are forced to except the worship of one of “Satan’s Secret Society’s” many "Gods". They say that in accepting the worship of one you accept “all” there “Gods”. These are no Gods at all but demonic entities, one including the Devil! Is this the powerful delusion spoken of in the Bible 2 Thessalonians 11, and the method for enslaving society through means of witchcraft / demonic powers? Here are a few verses giving insight. “Those who go into captivity into captivity they will go” Rev 13, 10. "Who enslaved nations by her witchcraft" Nahum 3, 4. "By your magic spell all nations were led astray" Rev 18, 23.
There is a way out!!! "Those who overcame, overcame by the blood of the lamb and the “WORD” of their testimony, they didn't love there own life's so much as to shrink from death". "This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints" Rev 12, 11. Witchcraft / the powers of the Devil are real Job 2, 7. Are you aware that "the martyrs for Christ who don't receive, what I believe to be, the “spiritual mark of the Beast” will come to life and reign with Christ for 1000 years during the millennium" Rev.20, 4? Would you trade a short life on earth for a 1000 year reign with Jesus Christ, and then so much more? Amen Brothers and sisters!!! You no who you are!
Also, are you aware that this society has been in the process of being set up for a long time under the totalitarian / evil rule of the Devil! Look up George Washington / Free Masons and the location of the Whitehouse and associated government buildings. This is just one of many examples. NWO / “Free” Mason symbolism has been distributed across the land. Satan and his followers are quite boastful. The Devil has been preparing for the coming tribulation for quite some time, when God will give him authority along with the Beast for 42 months of living HELL! And we thought Hitler was bad!
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I am still waiting for someone to come up with any evidence that the current economic, political, masonic and military masters of the world are committed to the ideals of Adam Weishaupt's Bavarian Illuminati, which are commonly stated as:



The Illuminati Agenda

The 6 Tenets of the Illuminati

1.Abolition of monarchy and all ordered governments
2.Abolition of private property
3.Abolition of inheritance
4.Abolition of patriotism
5.Abolition of the family (i.e. of marriage, all Christian morality and the institution of the communal education of children)
6.Abolition of all religion


On the contrary, the world's economic, political, military and Masonic Masters would appear to be entirely opposed to these ideals. In fact I have yet to come across any contemporary Masonic cultists (there are numerous on this forum) would wholeheartedly support these 6 ideals; on the contrary the Masonic cultists appear to be exclusively a cult of Capitalists; yet this allegation that the current global elties and the Masonic cultists are following in the tradition of the Bavarian Illuminait is alleged by David Icke and commonly alleged by numerous other conspiracy theorists including some individuals on this forum, despite a shred of evidence; indeed despite all the evidence to the contrary.

It is frankly only the Anarchist Communists (such as myself) who are committed to the ideals of the Bavarian Illuminati.

The above 6 proposals would liberate humanity from Capitalism and from Aeons of slave morality (religious morality), whereas the current world's economic masters would appear to be entirely intent on retaining and expanding their economic power and the strengthening of police states (governments), not the eradication of governments.

The following web page is from what is probably the leading Internet site for Masonic apologetics, however it does seem to clear up a number of historical conspiracy "non-facts" regarding Adam Weishaupt's Illuminati (http://www.masonicinfo.com/illuminati.htm).

If there was an attempt by Weishaupt's radical and allegedly anti-statist organisation to infiltrate governments and bring them down, it appears to have been as yet, entirely unsuccessful, and with regards to the infiltration of Freemasonry by those with such liberated and enlightened Anarcho-Communist ideals, I find no evidence of this in the behaviour of Masonic cultists and in the political and economic ideals they express on the Internet and in print, and in their professional behaviour (many of whom are professional Capitalists and state terrorist collaborators with the police, military, judicary, loan sharking professions etc.); on the contrary they appear to be universally opposed to anti-Capitalist and anti-statist political philosophy; as is their current aristocratic Grand Master, the Fieldmarshall, the Duke of Kent.

Since there are other Masonic cults being discussed here in addition to those recognised by the Duke of Kent's UGLE cult, I further find no evidence whatsoever that even among what is termed by the UGLE cultists as "fake Masonry" or "irregular Lodges" that such cults are anything other than Capitalist cults (and cults of Capitalists) who are in competition in the "religion business" of selling pompous titles and "degrees of knowledge" other gullible Capitalists.

The inheritors of the "philosophy" of the Illuminati are much more likely to be found in Europe and America among the intellectuals and political activists of the anti-Capitalist and anti-statist movements and I find a total absence of them among the various Masonic cultists.






At a time, however, when there was no end of making game of and abusing secret societies, I planned to make use of this human foible for a real and worthy goal, for the benefit of people.....................................man will recover from his fall; princes and nations, without violence to force them, will vanish from the earth; the human race will become one family, and the world the habitation of rational beings. Moral science alone will effect these reforms `imperceptibly'..., and reason will be man's only code of law"
Adam Weishaupt



“Weishaupt . . . proposed as the end of Illuminism the abolition of property, social authority, nationality, and the return of the human race to the happy state in which it formed only a single family without artificial needs, without useless sciences, every father being priest and magistrate. Priest of we know not what religion, for in spite of their frequent invocations of the God of Nature, many indications lead us to conclude that Weishaupt had, like Diderot and d'Holbach, no other God than Nature herself. From his doctrine would naturally follow German ultra-Hegelianism and the system of anarchy recently developed in France.”


- Henry Martin, Histoire de France depuis les temps les plus reculés jusqu'en 1789, XVI. 533

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A syndicate of bloodlines who seek a world dictatorship. That's basically my definition.
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A syndicate of bloodlines who seek a world dictatorship. That's basically my definition.
Well that is basically an excuse for irrational discrimination based upon what is now your admitted ignorance.
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Illuminati are the original human/reptilian hybrids who became the 13 bloodlines that rule Earth nowadays. There is a 14th family in Asia but the other 13 do not recognize them as they are considered to be hybrids from a lower reptilian caste.
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Illuminati are the original human/reptilian hybrids who became the 13 bloodlines that rule Earth nowadays. There is a 14th family in Asia but the other 13 do not recognize them as they are considered to be hybrids from a lower reptilian caste.
Errrrr ...... right. Too busy living mate. I'll pass on this one if you don't mind.
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Errrrr ...... right. Too busy living mate. I'll pass on this one if you don't mind.
no matter how busy you are it don't change what they are
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no matter how busy you are it don't change what they are
Fair enough. Don't call us ...
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Well that is basically an excuse for irrational discrimination based upon what is now your admitted ignorance.
How does that indicate any ignorance?
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How does that indicate any ignorance?
How can you blame anything on "the Jews" when you cannot define what "the Jews" is?

It become merely a scapegoat epithet. This is wrong, it must be "the Jews". That is wrong, it must be "the Jews".

IMHO lazy prejudiced thinking based upon self-admitted ignorance. The word "ignorant" by the way is NOT an epithet. It is a perfectly good word that describes a lack of knowledge on a particular subject. Being ignorant about one subject does not suggest that one is ignorant about every subject.

ignorant: lacking knowledge (SOURCE: Oxford English Dictionary)

Clearly the case in this instance.
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What is the illuminati?

Are you referring to the perfectibilists? their goals or aims

Or something else, I am very confused.
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The Illuminati or whatever label are impermanent ,just like everything


In this world there is nothing that is fixed and permanent. Every thing is subject to change and alteration. "Decay is inherent in all component things,"

http://www.urbandharma.org/udharma8/imperm.html

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How can you blame anything on "the Jews" when you cannot define what "the Jews" is?

It become merely a scapegoat epithet. This is wrong, it must be "the Jews". That is wrong, it must be "the Jews".

IMHO lazy prejudiced thinking based upon self-admitted ignorance. The word "ignorant" by the way is NOT an epithet. It is a perfectly good word that describes a lack of knowledge on a particular subject. Being ignorant about one subject does not suggest that one is ignorant about every subject.

ignorant: lacking knowledge (SOURCE: Oxford English Dictionary)

Clearly the case in this instance.
When did I EVER say or imply that I'm blaming things on the Jews? You must have read someone else's posts.

And can we stop using the word Jew? Judaism is a religion - not an ethnic group. That misconseption of yours alone is enough to question your credibility by the way.
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