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Old 15-07-2015, 04:23 PM   #19701
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It is not encumbant on Abe and Ella to provide all the evidence. This is why we have a police force. ( pathetic in this case though).

That is why Ella and Abe legged it. They knew if they went to court they would have no evidence to present.
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Old 15-07-2015, 05:00 PM   #19702
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That is why Ella and Abe legged it. They knew if they went to court they would have no evidence to present.
plus the avoidance of public humiliation when the lies came out, avoidance of being questioned in open court. not quite the same as being on the kev baker show, is it.
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Old 15-07-2015, 05:20 PM   #19703
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plus the avoidance of public humiliation when the lies came out, avoidance of being questioned in open court. not quite the same as being on the kev baker show, is it.
Absolutely correct, that is why they did not want to appear on the BBC they would have had questions put to them they would not have wanted to answer.

The 'shows' if you can call them that, they have been on so far are just the usual 'alternative crap' never do any research, massage the ego's and never ask searching questions. Abe and Ella would not wish to be made to look fools. Which is why they ran away, and still remain in hiding, because they know, if the pair of them had to tell the truth people would hate them for doing what they have done to the children, and lying to the public, and of course encouraging the public to accuse innocent people of being baby munching paedophiles.
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Old 15-07-2015, 05:43 PM   #19704
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Absolutely correct, that is why they did not want to appear on the BBC they would have had questions put to them they would not have wanted to answer.

The 'shows' if you can call them that, they have been on so far are just the usual 'alternative crap' never do any research, massage the ego's and never ask searching questions. Abe and Ella would not wish to be made to look fools. Which is why they ran away, and still remain in hiding, because they know, if the pair of them had to tell the truth people would hate them for doing what they have done to the children, and lying to the public, and of course encouraging the public to accuse innocent people of being baby munching paedophiles.
...because when the truth came out....can you imagine how their supporters would feel? they would be so angry. they would feel played. had. ooh, like abe says, there is no going back. they cannot face the wrath. they have made their bed. and now they lie in it, and try and find a way out of it, by means trying to hide their own fuck up in the morass of conspiracy theory.

right now, ella and abe are secure in the knowledge that the family courts will hide their worst bits. they release selected and approved items from their bundle, things they think will further their cause. can you imagine what it must be like for the other side, who, if they were to behave like them, could annihilate them? it must be difficult to sit on one's hands.

ella and abe count on these types of releases of evidence not being put online, as only they are special and above the law.

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Old 16-07-2015, 07:01 AM   #19705
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Its worth bearing in mind that women have been vilified and silenced over the last 2000 years for speaking out about this sort of thing. Whether its religion, politics, society, the same barrage of verbal abuse and personal attack has made sure women have not been able to step in and stop the epidemic of paedophilia we have in our world today. Call them what you will, shills being the modern name, but they have existed throughout history to protect their interests and they have all the same powerful techniques to shut valiant women up who want to stop this from happening and protect children. Once it was the dunking stool, now its the internet and the media. Not saying I have an opinion about some of the characters in all of this but I see many of the same patterns on here and elsewhere that have existed to shut women up throughout history to protect the paedo agenda.
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Old 16-07-2015, 07:24 AM   #19706
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Its worth bearing in mind that women have been vilified and silenced over the last 2000 years for speaking out about this sort of thing. Whether its religion, politics, society, the same barrage of verbal abuse and personal attack has made sure women have not been able to step in and stop the epidemic of paedophilia we have in our world today. Call them what you will, shills being the modern name, but they have existed throughout history to protect their interests and they have all the same powerful techniques to shut valiant women up who want to stop this from happening and protect children. Once it was the dunking stool, now its the internet and the media. Not saying I have an opinion about some of the characters in all of this but I see many of the same patterns on here and elsewhere that have existed to shut women up throughout history to protect the paedo agenda.
This has nothing to do with this case. It is not a woman thing, it affects both female and male children. So stop derailing with utter crap.
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Old 16-07-2015, 07:25 AM   #19707
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plus the avoidance of public humiliation when the lies came out, avoidance of being questioned in open court. not quite the same as being on the kev baker show, is it.
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Absolutely correct, that is why they did not want to appear on the BBC they would have had questions put to them they would not have wanted to answer.

The 'shows' if you can call them that, they have been on so far are just the usual 'alternative crap' never do any research, massage the ego's and never ask searching questions. Abe and Ella would not wish to be made to look fools. Which is why they ran away, and still remain in hiding, because they know, if the pair of them had to tell the truth people would hate them for doing what they have done to the children, and lying to the public, and of course encouraging the public to accuse innocent people of being baby munching paedophiles.
Good points people seem to forget the mum and boyfriend have done a runner.

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Old 16-07-2015, 08:08 AM   #19708
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Always wondered if the Hampstead case was meant as a distraction or as a pointer to something else:

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Old 16-07-2015, 09:08 AM   #19709
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Its worth bearing in mind that women have been vilified and silenced over the last 2000 years for speaking out about this sort of thing. Whether its religion, politics, society, the same barrage of verbal abuse and personal attack has made sure women have not been able to step in and stop the epidemic of paedophilia we have in our world today. Call them what you will, shills being the modern name, but they have existed throughout history to protect their interests and they have all the same powerful techniques to shut valiant women up who want to stop this from happening and protect children. Once it was the dunking stool, now its the internet and the media. Not saying I have an opinion about some of the characters in all of this but I see many of the same patterns on here and elsewhere that have existed to shut women up throughout history to protect the paedo agenda.
Please could you provide some examples of the ducking stool being used to protect the paedo agenda?
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Old 16-07-2015, 09:11 AM   #19710
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Always wondered if the Hampstead case was meant as a distraction or as a pointer to something else:
Go on then - what did you wonder? Your train of thought didn't just end there, did it? It was hardly worth starting up the engine if it did.
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Old 16-07-2015, 09:17 AM   #19711
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Go on then - what did you wonder? Your train of thought didn't just end there, did it? It was hardly worth starting up the engine if it did.
Whoo, someone got out on the wrong side of the bed this morning. I think my sentence can stand on its own. Posted the video for inquiring minds alf.
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Old 16-07-2015, 09:23 AM   #19712
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Whoo, someone got out on the wrong side of the bed this morning. I think my sentence can stand on its own. Posted the video for inquiring minds alf.
Apart from Bullinda being there, I didn't note any direct connection to the claims in the Hampstead case. If there was something obvious I missed, perhaps you'd be so helpful as to point it out?

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Old 16-07-2015, 09:33 AM   #19713
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Apart from Bullinda being there, I didn't note any direct connection to the claims in the Hampstead case. If there was something obvious I missed, perhaps you'd be so helpful as to point it out?
Nah, think I'll leave it there. Either you haven't been closely following this case or you're being deliberately obtuse. I'm surprised though that you didn't jump on Belinda's remark about the 'so-called satanic cult'.

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Old 16-07-2015, 09:36 AM   #19714
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Nah, think I'll leave it there. Either you haven't been closely following this case or you're being deliberately obtuse. I'm surprised though that you didn't jump on Belinda's remark about the 'so-called satanic cult'.
Colour me unsurprised. Throwing shit and seeing what sticks is all you've got.
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Colour me unsurprised. Throwing shit and seeing what sticks is all you've got.
No, I'll leave that for the specialists.
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Old 16-07-2015, 09:43 AM   #19716
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No, I'll leave that for the specialists.
Like Bullinda and Scamine? I agree we could all learn something about the art of shit stirring and muck spreading by following their fine examples.
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Cannot believe alf that some people still promoting the likes of Blaginda after all the fuck ups she has done.
Her and Sab do not do research they go on hearsay and never check the facts, hence making such a fuck up of this case.
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Old 16-07-2015, 02:09 PM   #19718
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Thanks bsharp, this exposes Mckenzie as a fraud. She says "so-called Satanic abuse". There may be more to the Hampstead story than we all know about, but if there is evidence of a paedophile ring, then expose it.
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Old 16-07-2015, 02:14 PM   #19719
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Nah, think I'll leave it there. Either you haven't been closely following this case or you're being deliberately obtuse. I'm surprised though that you didn't jump on Belinda's remark about the 'so-called satanic cult'.

I think you might remeber you did not even know that Ella had published how she had met her first husband, so accusing another poster of not 'following this case closely' is a bit ripe.

Belinda, if you know how she operates, does this, she back tracks, she pushes people forward, encouraging them to make accusatory statements, then, she will stand back, you just need to watch her in the Hollie Greig case. She rallies the vulnerable, feeds them shit, which they so readily repeat like parrots, which then gives her the opportunity to step back, thus avoiding being arrested, unlike the idiots that do her dirty work for her.

Belinda always attracts the vulnerable and mentally ill, they look to her as some kind of warrior who might protect them. LOL!!! All the time raking in the money from the blind followers, who never ask questions, she loves people like that.

I will make comment on Belinda's latest....She knows that Ella and Abe don't want anything to do with her anymore so she has to back out still trying to remain the 'warrior' her followers believe her to be. Her statements has gone from...SATANIC!!!! to ..well sort of satanic....haha....say no more.
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I think you might remeber you did not even know that Ella had published how she had met her first husband, so accusing another poster of not 'following this case closely' is a bit ripe.

Belinda, if you know how she operates, does this, she back tracks, she pushes people forward, encouraging them to make accusatory statements, then, she will stand back, you just need to watch her in the Hollie Greig case. She rallies the vulnerable, feeds them shit, which they so readily repeat like parrots, which then gives her the opportunity to step back, thus avoiding being arrested, unlike the idiots that do her dirty work for her.

Belinda always attracts the vulnerable and mentally ill, they look to her as some kind of warrior who might protect them. LOL!!! All the time raking in the money from the blind followers, who never ask questions, she loves people like that.

I will make comment on Belinda's latest....She knows that Ella and Abe don't want anything to do with her anymore so she has to back out still trying to remain the 'warrior' her followers believe her to be. Her statements has gone from...SATANIC!!!! to ..well sort of satanic....haha....say no more.
...and right on cue, here she is with some expert analysis on the events at court yesterday. accompanied by her bestie, neely.

seems to me sabine and belinda have completely lost the confidence of her former followers, and that abe's true leanings are also being examined.

of course ella did attend the tavistock too, so who knows who is working with whom anymore.


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