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Old 27-01-2018, 04:48 PM   #21
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If this was a Von Neumann probe I can suggest this. During it's approach to the last planetary system it would have absorbed enough energy to replicate a series of self replicating robots which it would have quietly ejected during its approach. These would have used the energy then to do two things. One, explore and amass information about the planetary system, if promising they would then work on making a more direct approach. Second, they would also have travelled throughout the system to find and colonise space rocks to mine and use the raw materials to form more similar probes to slingshot in other directions. My guess is that we may see, in a few months and years another probe heading to us from the same direction or... We could see activity in our own asteroid belt.
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:22 AM   #22
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Oumuamua image here http://www.eso.org/public/images/eso1737a
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:08 AM   #23
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The data readout of Oumuamua is probably a lot less exciting than an artistic impression.

According to astronomers apparent magnitude varies between 19.7 to > 27.5 depending whether it's energy absorption panels are catching the sunlight*









*I made that up.

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Old 03-11-2018, 11:09 AM   #24
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Still no consensus on the object as analysis of the data indicates it changed velocity and trajectory in an unexpected fashion in it's passage through the solar system.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ilization.html

If some mass detached from it (maybe using thrusters pointed at it) certain parameters could be calculated.

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Old 12-11-2018, 10:38 PM   #25
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Some nice footage of the object itself in this lecture here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfi3w9Bzwik

Interesting to note that later calculations of it's inbound trajectory placed it's perihelion with the Sun on the 9th September.

Remember last year the Sun unexpectedly repeatedly released major cme's between the 5th and 10th of September more than a full month before the Hawaian observervatory spotted Oumuamua.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJBr3Zcb21I


For those interested this month in 2018 the Sun also released several minor cme's on it's farside whilst the Parker probe passed behind the Sun.
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Old 13-11-2018, 06:24 AM   #26
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Interstellar object 'Oumuamua' is 'unexpectedly' speeding up, leaving Nasa scientists baffled

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/inte...-a3875736.html

The first known interstellar object to travel through our solar system is unexpectedly speeding up, and scientists don’t know why.

Nasa? have said observations from their Hubble Space Telescope have confirmed the interstellar object, Oumuamua, has had an “unexpected boost in speed and shift in trajectory as it passes through the inner solar system.”

Marco Micheli of ESA’s (European Space Agency) Space Situational Awareness Near-Earth Object Coordination Centre in Italy said: “Our high-precision measurements of ?Oumuamua’s position revealed that there was something affecting its motion other than the gravitational forces of the Sun and planets.”

The boost has left scientists scratching their head as to what could be causing the increase in speed, but early analysis shows some theories.

Analysing the trajectory of the interstellar visitor, co-author Davide Farnocchia of the Center for Near Earth Object Studies (CNEOS) at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) said the speed boost was consistent with the behaviour of a comet.

He said: “This additional subtle force on ?Oumuamua likely is caused by jets of gaseous material expelled from its surface,”

“This same kind of outgassing affects the motion of many comets in our solar system.”

Karen Meech, an astronomer at the University of Hawaii’s Institute of Astronomy, said she was learning lots from the interstellar object’s behaviour.

She said: “'I’m amazed at how much we have learned from a short, intense observing campaign. I can hardly wait for the next interstellar object!"

Oumuamua, less than half a mile in length, now is farther away from our Sun than Jupiter and traveling away from the Sun at about 70,000 mph as it heads toward the outskirts of the solar system. In only another four years, it will pass Neptune’s orbit on its way back into interstellar space.
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Old 13-11-2018, 11:08 AM   #27
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It's an interesting subject for sure.

The odds of an interstellar object travelling too fast (~59,000 mph) to be gravitationally captured by the solar system (which itself is moving around the galaxy at 486,000 mph) and passing within the orbit of the innermost planet and then close by Earth are what precisely?


As to the change maybe the Sun folded and spun a magnetic field round it to speed it up. If that's the case She might think about making a guass rifle about 300,000 miles long before you know it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWwazA1pvK4

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Old 22-11-2018, 04:29 PM   #28
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The "asteroid" gets a mention in today's SO round up.


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Old 25-11-2018, 02:45 PM   #29
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Astronomers who like working with high power telescopes are a bit circumspect on the matter and those arguing that it might be a light sail are offering a very restricted alternative to it being a natural occurence.

Current thinking presented through the msm is that light sails might be a good way of moving very small probes to nearby stars. It presents a very naive view of the situation possibly for very good reasons.

However the msm discussions seem to stop short at considering how and with what intent would advanced aliens approach a planet inhabited by "intelligent" life.

In this respect Oumuamua might be a detachable propulsion system (like we use) used for slowing down that main vessel (Look back along it's track through the solar system to maybe spot something larger) or it might actually be something that has been converted into fuel for the interstellar journey or empty fuel tanks or even as a protective nose cone.

It could even be something natural sent on it's way to see if we spot it, how we react to it, if we can intercept it or even just to distract the limited resources we have so that their actual existence/position is kept hidden.

Any of these expanations would tie in nicely with my hearing an alien mind (practising English numbers) about 4 or 5 years ago. Not heard one ever before (in case you're wondering ) and not heard it since. This however would be a fortuitous thing as the Sun is possibly learning to project Her mind directly into English* (at least) and interact.



*One of the main languages spoken continuously around the globe by children so that the iniitial learning is very fast.
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