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Old 18-11-2018, 05:38 PM   #1
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The Kundalini IS The Holy Spirit (What Your Pastor Refuses To Tell You)


Around 2008 Revivalist Andrew Strom did a video likening some of the bodily manifestations that were going on in the Pentecostal churches to what happens during kundalini awakening in spiritualist circles. The video immediately went viral on YouTube. Andrew’s Stance was that a false spirit called The Kundalini which he deems as demonic had invaded the church and was masquerading as the Holy Spirit. It did not take long for this idea to catch on in many of the streamline churches who were already attacking the pentecostal charismatic movement. During this podcast segment I try and unpack some of the details about this growing stance and why what we call The Kundalini, Prana, Chi (Qi), and Tachyon Energy etc. is the Holy Spirit (Breath).

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Old 19-11-2018, 08:06 AM   #2
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Is there any evidence to support that the Kundalini is the Holy spirit or is it a case of, just like the church and all other religions, we're suppose to blindly believe it because somebody said so
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Is there any evidence to support that the Kundalini is the Holy spirit or is it a case of, just like the church and all other religions, we're suppose to blindly believe it because somebody said so
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what you should do is to work on yourself to expirience a kundalini and start to grow spiritualy
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Is there any evidence to support that the Kundalini is the Holy spirit or is it a case of, just like the church and all other religions, we're suppose to blindly believe it because somebody said so

Intellectual knowledge of what Kundalini may or not be is best sought from the original sources and it's probably wiser not go seeking an experience with Kundalini as a path in itself as an experience with Kundalini is probably all you will get.
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Ive experiences both and it was the same thing. Energy etc.
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Ive experiences both and it was the same thing. Energy etc.
The difference being one is descending and one ascending. The paths of the serpent and the dove. The dove descends and the serpent rises.
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Ive experiences both and it was the same thing. Energy etc.
People going through the process might be aware that when it goes beyond internal energy movements and presents sensations of a halo above the head or movement in which the energy flows through and up beyond the head and shoulders and then loops back down into the lower back that the church deals with in it's particular way through it's iconography and if the process proceeds to shut down the unconscious mind, then the conscious mind, then awareness of body and in particular awareness of respiration (these things not necessarily in that order and maybe over a period of time not a necessariy short duration) then the church is not capable of coherent explanation and support.

This inability to provide any reference to people who would label themselves as otherwise fairly normal means what is and should be a beautiful revealing of ones nature by the Divine Feminine (who is considerably older than christianity and humanity turns into one of psychological fear and internal conflict pushing many eventually into the arms of overworked people in the medical profession many of whom are also ignorant of the process in the living and the dying.



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The difference being one is descending and one ascending. The paths of the serpent and the dove. The dove descends and the serpent rises.
These days there's better language to be used than continually alluding to things that are creatures in their own right and not there solely for the benefit of religion driven allegorical purposes.

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This inability to provide any reference to people who would label themselves as otherwise fairly normal means what is and should be a beautiful revealing of ones nature by the Divine Feminine (who is considerably older than christianity
or is the divine feminine represented in christianity as the 'holy ghost'?

for all the harms created by christianity there is an even more extreme form of puritanism seeking to replace it in the form of neo-marxism that leads to corporate socialist technocracy and ultimately transhumanism
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or is the divine feminine represented in christianity as the 'holy ghost'?

for all the harms created by christianity there is an even more extreme form of puritanism seeking to replace it in the form of neo-marxism that leads to corporate socialist technocracy and ultimately transhumanism
Why haven't you pointed out the Eye of Horus 6's 6666666's in the above vid's picture? Come on, you're not doing your job. Or is it only selectively relevant when you want to have a go at Marxists? Lol.

Come on man, why haven't you yet said that the maker's of the vid are paedolphilic satanists? Where's the warning that we shouldn't watch the vid 'cos it's part of a Marxist plot by paedophilic satanists?

Are you letting it by due to some moral relativism or something?

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Old 22-11-2018, 05:08 PM   #11
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Intellectual knowledge of what Kundalini may or not be is best sought from the original sources and it's probably wiser not go seeking an experience with Kundalini as a path in itself as an experience with Kundalini is probably all you will get.
i think Kundalini should be allowed to happen in it's own time.

I've seen reports of some people not having particularly nice experiences - presumably trying to kick start the process when one isn't physically or spiritually ready.

i didn't even know what Kundalini was, but had my own experience around 2002, which led to me having a very real bilocation - and beyond that an experience of absolute peace which i can only describe as what it may feel like to be Saintly.

Yog nidra was key to this - the state of being that occurs between being-asleep and being-awake. It all began with a procession of physical pain that moved up through me and erupted from the top of my head... This happened over a period of several hours, certainly more than 12 hours. It all culminated in a total out-of-body experience: my body was in two places at the same time, both in that yog nidra state and wholly awake in entirely different realities.

I've had experiences of my consciousness being elsewhere many times - both in meditation and Shamanic journeys, as a shaman in healing ceremonies etc.

But this experience was a bilocation, my physical presence being broadcast on two wavelengths, giving me two very tangible and real memories of the same time.

i didn't know what this all was, i had no idea. It certainly wasn't something that i went searching for, but it was absolutely something that happened to me.

I'm not entirely sure that if one sought out the experience that it would be as profound.
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Why haven't you pointed out the Eye of Horus 6's 6666666's in the above vid's picture? Come on, you're not doing your job. Or is it only selectively relevant when you want to have a go at Marxists? Lol.

Come on man, why haven't you yet said that the maker's of the vid are paedolphilic satanists? Where's the warning that we shouldn't watch the vid 'cos it's part of a Marxist plot by paedophilic satanists?

Are you letting it by due to some moral relativism or something?

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i haven't watched the video

i just entered the thread, read some comments and then commented on someone elses comment that's all

is that you seeing 6's everywhere? ***rolls eyes***
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i haven't watched the video

i just entered the thread, read some comments and then commented on someone elses comment that's all

is that you seeing 6's everywhere? ***rolls eyes***
What, you didn't see that big picture in the OP?

I can see whatever I like, sixes included. It's only a minuscule part of the spectrum though. Nothing for me to get worked up over. You, however........

Indeed, here you are replying to me and yet still no opinion on the pic. What's wrong with you? You should be screaming about it by now as that's what you usually do. But like I said you only do that sort of thing when it suits your politics. Hypocritical and flakey double standards is what it is.

Or more like as I've pointed out before, the more 666's are presented the better you like it. Occultists eh? & worse than that, christian occultists. Who needs 'em?

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Old 23-11-2018, 06:01 AM   #14
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^ Ref to above: if someone utilises an energy frequency to project information, they can project an emotional connection and create a vibratory ripple.

They can do this for either personal, or trans-personal manifestation of a perceived greater 'good' in and around themselves, or within a wider perspective. It can also be used to project ill will and negativity.

The energy created and projected is wholly polarised by their intent.

People may use the power of numbers, as they represent the building blocks of a 3d universe.

6's seem to be representative of a negative connotation, but like anything else they are just the physical tools being applied / used.

13 is widely considered to be an unlucky number, but Jesus and his 12 disciples used 13 to convey a deeper meaning.

666 is just a number, what matters is what is the connotation that is applied to that number.

Everything is energy, and energy is shaped purely by focus.

We've been conditioned into thinking 666 is bad. We can change that around and recognise that some people wish to project their own negativity into those numbers.

And we might also consider why 666 has been manifested into our belief system as being intrinsically negative - and ask if those hidden hands and secret societies have manifested it like that 'to keep people away from it.'

The human body has chakras, and they absorb as well as project energy - they can be seen as spinning discs, and like galaxies the energy spirals either in toward the centre or out from it.

The energy may be represented, or seen to be like, the number 6.

That doesn't make the 6 a bad thing or a good thing. it's just a thing.

Like fire, how we apply it is what matters.

And like anything else, it is how we allow energy to effect us, or not touch us that matters. Some will project negativity, and some will absorb it. The spiritually adept will be able to transmute energy without being effected by it.

Some will be able to bounce the energy right back to sender - some can just send the energy back, some can send it back with teeth in it.

But everything is just energy.

What matters is how we use it.

But what also matters is how we are told it is used.

We shouldn't fall for the 'this is bad' or the 'this is good' - because a lot of 'good' is intrinsically evil.

What matters is how we each deal with energy around us. We shouldn't get tied up on hating the 6, hating the divine feminine or the masculine, or attaching overtly negative or positive connotations to anything.

Hanging our own interpretations onto things doesn'y mean that the thing is how we envision it.

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^ Ref to above: if someone utilises an energy frequency to project information, they can project an emotional connection and create a vibratory ripple.

They can do this for either personal, or trans-personal manifestation of a perceived greater 'good' in and around themselves, or within a wider perspective. It can also be used to project ill will and negativity.

The energy created and projected is wholly polarised by their intent.

People may use the power of numbers, as they represent the building blocks of a 3d universe.

6's seem to be representative of a negative connotation, but like anything else they are just the physical tools being applied / used.

13 is widely considered to be an unlucky number, but Jesus and his 12 disciples used 13 to convey a deeper meaning.

666 is just a number, what matters is what is the connotation that is applied to that number.

Everything is energy, and energy is shaped purely by focus.

We've been conditioned into thinking 666 is bad. We can change that around and recognise that some people wish to project their own negativity into those numbers.

And we might also consider why 666 has been manifested into our belief system as being intrinsically negative - and ask if those hidden hands and secret societies have manifested it like that 'to keep people away from it.'

The human body has chakras, and they absorb as well as project energy - they can be seen as spinning discs, and like galaxies the energy spirals either in toward the centre or out from it.

The energy may be represented, or seen to be like, the number 6.

That doesn't make the 6 a bad thing or a good thing. it's just a thing.

Like fire, how we apply it is what matters.

And like anything else, it is how we allow energy to effect us, or not touch us that matters. Some will project negativity, and some will absorb it. The spiritually adept will be able to transmute energy without being effected by it.

Some will be able to bounce the energy right back to sender - some can just send the energy back, some can send it back with teeth in it.

But everything is just energy.

What matters is how we use it.

But what also matters is how we are told it is used.

We shouldn't fall for the 'this is bad' or the 'this is good' - because a lot of 'good' is intrinsically evil.

What matters is how we each deal with energy around us. We shouldn't get tied up on hating the 6, hating the divine feminine or the masculine, or attaching overtly negative or positive connotations to anything.

Hanging our own interpretations onto things doesn'y mean that the thing is how we envision it.

imho
Indeed, my point all along has been that if you have a singular interpretation of things then you are no better (or better off) than the so called secret societies who are all about building constructions (masonry etc) within people's minds.

A powerful computer has almost infinite functional possibility, but no code unless you write it. Maybe if our friend is so worried about transhumanism he should stop writing computer code.

Btw, my apologies to the OP for my carrying a debate over to this thread, and the stuff I said was not directed at them in any way.

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I came on to delete my previous post, but perhaps it is OK to leave looking at the lager meaning of the thread.

But to then add to it, somewhat, given the nature of the discussion....

As kundalini is directly associated with chakras, and getting back to the spiralling of energy.... The energy itself can be seen to spiral in anticlockwise and spiral out clockwise, symbolising balance that is mirrored within yin and yang, the eternal manifestation of oneness, the 6 and the 9.

Which leads me to consider that the kundalini gateway does require certain keys - I think those keys predate Christianity or any new world and recognised old world religions and perhaps hark back to creator force and the union of DNA strands and tie in all the way back to our very genesis within this atomic creation we call reality.

It could very well be the first step, hardwired into our physicality, to opening ourselves up to the creator particle and from that step understanding through accession (access) into higher dimendions
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I think someone on the forum has linked before to that video but this time I forced myself to watch it all.

People are entitled to have opinions about things, entitled to be wrong about things and are entitled to express themselves about their experiences. As long as this stops short of actively harming others that's fine. Some people never have such experiences in their whole lifetime. The intellectual worldview that's in their mind/bubble of perception probably precludes such experiences because they would be seriously harmed by them. Like in a big bubble bath the bubbles all burst eventually.

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As kundalini is directly associated with chakras, and getting back to the spiralling of energy.... The energy itself can be seen to spiral in anticlockwise and spiral out clockwise, symbolising balance that is mirrored within yin and yang, the eternal manifestation of oneness, the 6 and the 9.

Which leads me to consider that the kundalini gateway does require certain keys - I think those keys predate Christianity or any new world and recognised old world religions and perhaps hark back to creator force and the union of DNA strands and tie in all the way back to our very genesis within this atomic creation we call reality.

It could very well be the first step, hardwired into our physicality, to opening ourselves up to the creator particle and from that step understanding through accession (access) into higher dimendions
Gopi Krishna wrote several books outlining this during his lifetime, would have written a real corker nailing the subject once and for all but died rather suddenly before he could get going on it.

The serpent in the tree may not actually be a real serpent in a real tree or even an allegorical serpent in an allegorical tree but may actually be the spinal column with the many branched sytem of nadis.
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I think someone on the forum has linked before to that video but this time I forced myself to watch it all.

People are entitled to have opinions about things, entitled to be wrong about things and are entitled to express themselves about their experiences. As long as this stops short of actively harming others that's fine. Some people never have such experiences in their whole lifetime. The intellectual worldview that's in their mind/bubble of perception probably precludes such experiences because they would be seriously harmed by them. Like in a big bubble bath the bubbles all burst eventually.



Gopi Krishna wrote several books outlining this during his lifetime, would have written a real corker nailing the subject once and for all but died rather suddenly before he could get going on it.

The serpent in the tree may not actually be a real serpent in a real tree or even an allegorical serpent in an allegorical tree but may actually be the spinal column with the many branched sytem of nadis.
According to the bible book the serpent wasn't a serpent until after it's part in "the fall". God's punishment metered out to the creature was to turn it into a serpent. Not sure how that fits allegorically.

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Indeed, my point all along has been that if you have a singular interpretation of things then you are no better (or better off) than the so called secret societies who are all about building constructions (masonry etc) within people's minds.

A powerful computer has almost infinite functional possibility, but no code unless you write it. Maybe if our friend is so worried about transhumanism he should stop writing computer code.
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i'm not talking about how you are interpreting the code

i am talking about the intent of the people who are putting the number 666 in childrens cartoons as well as sexual imagery

you can interprete it as rainbows and unicorns vomit for all i care

what i'm trying to expose is that there are occultists controlling the mainstream media. That is what i'm trying to get across to people

some would say that 666 is the number of the sun or of man. However if it is referring to saturn as a sun and not the solar sun that would add a twist

regarding kundelini i think the original christianity was likely a very different affair to the one presented by the roman church and the jewish proselytizer paul aka saul who fell out with the christian apostles
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I came on to delete my previous post, but perhaps it is OK to leave looking at the lager meaning of the thread.

But to then add to it, somewhat, given the nature of the discussion....

As kundalini is directly associated with chakras, and getting back to the spiralling of energy.... The energy itself can be seen to spiral in anticlockwise and spiral out clockwise, symbolising balance that is mirrored within yin and yang, the eternal manifestation of oneness, the 6 and the 9.

Which leads me to consider that the kundalini gateway does require certain keys - I think those keys predate Christianity or any new world and recognised old world religions and perhaps hark back to creator force and the union of DNA strands and tie in all the way back to our very genesis within this atomic creation we call reality.

It could very well be the first step, hardwired into our physicality, to opening ourselves up to the creator particle and from that step understanding through accession (access) into higher dimendions

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