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Old 30-04-2009, 10:05 PM   #1
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"When your mind wakes up from sleep quicker than your physical body, and you feel someone pushing down on you or "watching" you, it is a Reptilian (or other kind of alien) in the fourth dimension.

If your mind wakes up quicker than your body, then your mind cannot exist in the third dimension because your third-dimensional human body is still asleep. Thus, your mind switches to the fourth dimension and is able to experience fourth-dimensional reality.

Right now, we are in the third dimension. And, when we die here, we go to the fourth dimension (the astral world). The fourth dimension feels just as "real" as this, but the rules (Darkness's rules) are considerably different over there:

"The astral world is a 'place' where beings reside when they are not in the physical. The physical world is a 'place' where the same type of beings reside when they are not in the astral. The astral world is a complex place full of subtle entrapments just like the situation here in this physical world. In one sense it is far more deceptive than the physical dimension" (Amitakh Stanford, "The Spirit World").

Along with humans, the Reptilians also exist in both dimensions."

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I found this so interesting. A couple of months ago I remember waking up from a dream.. but I found that I couldn't move, and I felt a pressure pushing down on me. I tried to get up but it seemed I was paralysed... and it was SO real. And I remember a buzzing sound, and a light just infront of my face. And then I woke up.. and I could move.. and I felt my eyes opening. And the weirdest thing was that I was looking at the exact same spot that I was when I was "asleep".. SO amazing! Hah. Has anything like this ever happened to you?
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A couple of months ago I remember waking up from a dream.. but I found that I couldn't move, and I felt a pressure pushing down on me. I tried to get up but it seemed I was paralysed... and it was SO real. And I remember a buzzing sound, and a light just infront of my face. And then I woke up.. and I could move.. and I felt my eyes opening. And the weirdest thing was that I was looking at the exact same spot that I was when I was "asleep".. SO amazing! Hah. Has anything like this ever happened to you?
Yes. I've had several out-of-body experiences. The above is just standard or common experiences associated with the phenomena.
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Old 30-04-2009, 10:20 PM   #3
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Yes. I've had several out-of-body experiences. The above is just standard or common experiences associated with the phenomena.
Well it was the first OBE I've had
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I have experienced this a number of times. Both my Dad and my sister suffer with it too.

It can be quite unnerving. A couple of times I was sure I WAS dead.
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Well it was the first OBE I've had
Well I suggest you consider what you experienced to be sensations and occurrences associated with an out-of-body experience, for instance on the way out or on the way back. Those sensations and experiences are not itself an out-of-body experience.

In an out-of-body experience you experience yourself as a nonphysical entity separate and distinct from your physical body. You can move around, think, and so forth when you are conscious enough. You were likely mid reintegrating with your physical body when you 'woke up' from the dream, and were not consciously aware during the out-of-body state.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:04 PM   #6
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Time and space is changeing and souner or later time and space will be one please dont take piss I feel it comeing change and it is not obarma
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"When your mind wakes up from sleep quicker than your physical body, and you feel someone pushing down on you or "watching" you, it is a Reptilian (or other kind of alien) in the fourth dimension.
Where did you found such a news? people dont be paranoic

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I would not agree. You are not your mind ! and you do not need phisical body to exist in this world

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I would not agree again We do exist in at last 5 dimensions at the same time and we are in astral world all the time , and Astral world is not darker than this one here

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"The astral world is a 'place' where beings reside when they are not in the physical. The physical world is a 'place' where the same type of beings reside when they are not in the astral. The astral world is a complex place full of subtle entrapments just like the situation here in this physical world. In one sense it is far more deceptive than the physical dimension" (Amitakh Stanford, "The Spirit World").
Omg so scary! I will never go to astral world! OMG i am in astral world since i was born aaaaaaaa how to run from there?

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Having hundreds of OOBE i have never meet one, nor i realy care to meet some. Well dogs and cats also exist there

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I found this so interesting. A couple of months ago I remember waking up from a dream.. but I found that I couldn't move, and I felt a pressure pushing down on me. I tried to get up but it seemed I was paralysed... and it was SO real. And I remember a buzzing sound, and a light just infront of my face. And then I woke up.. and I could move.. and I felt my eyes opening. And the weirdest thing was that I was looking at the exact same spot that I was when I was "asleep".. SO amazing! Hah. Has anything like this ever happened to you?
You had great chance to have fulll OOBE, its very possible that you are gifted in this matter I will make a topic on this forum somwhere about OOBE/LD where i will post what to do in such situation if tyou want a full bottom kicking OOBE
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...Interesting.

I've had experiences such as those - the most memorable being attacked by a small black figure, almost identical in shape to the "Grey" aliens of poular culture - large upper-head, small body etc.

The thing seemed to sh!t itself when I became aware of what it looked like and promptly departed - I haven't seen its like since.

I'll have to read up on it a little more - I wouldn't rule out it being a projection of subconscious fears/beliefs though, both my own and the collective.

...things of this nature generally are.
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Time and space is changeing and souner or later time and space will be one please dont take piss I feel it comeing change and it is not obarma
Oddly enough! That’s how I’ve woken myself up from some of my OBE’s…By evoking time.
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last night i got hit by a trio of sleep paralysis waves before finally managing to get to sleep safely.

i use valerian root to help me get a good night of kip, but just before retiring i ate a couple of tomato.

the valerian root can provide some gentle visuals and last night as i drifted away in came the visuals, but something was different. almost instantly a great wave of pressure seemed to descend on my body and i felt the urge to wake up, but couldn't. as much as i tried to move my body it was impossible. this went on for a while until i managed to move and wake up.

after a while i started to drift off again and the same thing happened, except the visuals were stronger- i was seeing complete images flashing in my head. instead of giving in to panic i decided to ride for a while and find out what happened, however soon the crushing feeling became crazy and i tried to move and wake up fully. i wasn't asleep yet i wasn't awake, it was a state of mind i was used to experiencing. eventually i managed to move and wake up.

once awake i realised how freaky things were and feared somewhat about trying to go to sleep again, but i drifted out quickly. this time i was instantly hit with extremely strong visuals of almost movie quality. then it felt as if my body was no longer controlling my breathing. whenever i breathed out everything went dark and i felt as if i were dead, then i was "allowed" to breathe in and the visuals return. i was really struggling to move and wake up, but was rooted to the spot. then one final image arrived in my mind- it was reptilian-looking coloured blood-red. then all visuals stopped though the paralysis continued for a short time after which i could move and wake up.

now rational speaking i should mention i went without sleep earlier in the week so my sleep pattern was slightly fucked, however i had got plenty of sleep the night before the sleep paralysis, in fact managing to sleep during the day as well. i'm also schizophrenic, however my mental health at the moment is pretty decent- reality is in a typical place at the mo.

so what happened? well i've very occasionally had sleep paralysis before, but not very often. was it something to do with having the death of david carradine in my mind? that might align with the feeling of not being able to control my breathing. was it the combination of valerian root and a couple of tomato? were reptilians trying to invade me? i dunno the answer... any thoughts?
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...Interesting.

I've had experiences such as those - the most memorable being attacked by a small black figure, almost identical in shape to the "Grey" aliens of poular culture - large upper-head, small body etc.

The thing seemed to sh!t itself when I became aware of what it looked like and promptly departed - I haven't seen its like since.

I'll have to read up on it a little more - I wouldn't rule out it being a projection of subconscious fears/beliefs though, both my own and the collective.

...things of this nature generally are.
In addition to this - this morning I had a similarly outlandish experience. I was bombarded with a series of highly unpleasant dreams - probably parallel realities, that got worse as they went on. It's been confirmed that my bedroom does harbour the spirit of a quite nasty dead soldier, which accounts for my general bad luck in the place. And I sense a certain demonic (?) activity in the room, and particularly in (at least) one of its parallels.

What happened afterwards was most disturbing - I awoke to "reality" but found myself in a consciously paralyzed state, and this continued in 'layers' of paralyzation until a black band surrounded my head and particularly my ears - a buzzing sound echoed and it completely stopped.

Some sort of extra terrestrail brain implant? A mere hallucination? Really didn't seem so. Particularly how instantly it stopped after the black "device" entered.


Who knows (?)

Sounds like something straight out of a Strieber book though.
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last night i got hit by a trio of sleep paralysis waves before finally managing to get to sleep safely.

i use valerian root to help me get a good night of kip, but just before retiring i ate a couple of tomato.

the valerian root can provide some gentle visuals and last night as i drifted away in came the visuals, but something was different. almost instantly a great wave of pressure seemed to descend on my body and i felt the urge to wake up, but couldn't. as much as i tried to move my body it was impossible. this went on for a while until i managed to move and wake up.

after a while i started to drift off again and the same thing happened, except the visuals were stronger- i was seeing complete images flashing in my head. instead of giving in to panic i decided to ride for a while and find out what happened, however soon the crushing feeling became crazy and i tried to move and wake up fully. i wasn't asleep yet i wasn't awake, it was a state of mind i was used to experiencing. eventually i managed to move and wake up.

once awake i realised how freaky things were and feared somewhat about trying to go to sleep again, but i drifted out quickly. this time i was instantly hit with extremely strong visuals of almost movie quality. then it felt as if my body was no longer controlling my breathing. whenever i breathed out everything went dark and i felt as if i were dead, then i was "allowed" to breathe in and the visuals return. i was really struggling to move and wake up, but was rooted to the spot. then one final image arrived in my mind- it was reptilian-looking coloured blood-red. then all visuals stopped though the paralysis continued for a short time after which i could move and wake up.

now rational speaking i should mention i went without sleep earlier in the week so my sleep pattern was slightly fucked, however i had got plenty of sleep the night before the sleep paralysis, in fact managing to sleep during the day as well. i'm also schizophrenic, however my mental health at the moment is pretty decent- reality is in a typical place at the mo.

so what happened? well i've very occasionally had sleep paralysis before, but not very often. was it something to do with having the death of david carradine in my mind? that might align with the feeling of not being able to control my breathing. was it the combination of valerian root and a couple of tomato? were reptilians trying to invade me? i dunno the answer... any thoughts?
Mate, I am in no way quailifed to give my opinion here but what you have written is very interesting. Ive been reading bits and bobs about the hypnogogic (?) state. The space between waking and dreaming. lots of stuff happens to people in that realm but most are afraid to talk of it for fear of being labelled.

recently I have been experiencing hearing voices when Im about to drift off or when I am about to wake. Very clear and definately not my own. My sis gets sleep paralysis and she often mentions not being able to move.

Not sure where the valerian root fits in. its supposed to be good for anxiety isnt it? Maybe ill give it a bit of a go
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so what happened? well i've very occasionally had sleep paralysis before, but not very often. was it something to do with having the death of david carradine in my mind? that might align with the feeling of not being able to control my breathing. was it the combination of valerian root and a couple of tomato? were reptilians trying to invade me? i dunno the answer... any thoughts?
Sleeping paralysis - it happends when your phisical body sleeps! but Your mind stays awaken. It happend every night when we go to sleep but 99.9% of time we just fall into a dreams and we are not aware of it.

You are not able to control breathing becouse Your phisical body sleeps!
When You sleep every night do You control breathing from Your dreams ?

Those images and movie are the state when Your dreams strats, usualy we see dreams from "within" You just saw it as an obserwer. The things You saw was Your dreams and You create it!
If You were watching porn for all the day most likely there would be naked womans, but most likely You were thinking about reptilians so there was reptilian
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In addition to this - this morning I had a similarly outlandish experience. I was bombarded with a series of highly unpleasant dreams - probably parallel realities, that got worse as they went on. It's been confirmed that my bedroom does harbour the spirit of a quite nasty dead soldier, which accounts for my general bad luck in the place. And I sense a certain demonic (?) activity in the room, and particularly in (at least) one of its parallels.

What happened afterwards was most disturbing - I awoke to "reality" but found myself in a consciously paralyzed state, and this continued in 'layers' of paralyzation until a black band surrounded my head and particularly my ears - a buzzing sound echoed and it completely stopped.

Some sort of extra terrestrail brain implant? A mere hallucination? Really didn't seem so. Particularly how instantly it stopped after the black "device" entered.


Who knows (?)

Sounds like something straight out of a Strieber book though.
When You sleep Yor phisical senses are off, and nonphisical senses are on, and there is a moment of switching between inner senses and phisical senses.

This black thing is when You turn off phisical eyes and turn on nonphisical, but yet do not start to dream. If You meditate You can do it also, to be in this black thing.

The buzzing sound - its the sound You hear with Your inner senses when You change vibration level to swich from nonphisical body to phisical body there use to be such sound.

The nasty dead solider - i dont want to worry You but most likely he realy is there. Probably he was killed and now he live in astral/etherical dimension somwhere near You and he dont even know that he is dead. It is a very common problem people know fucking nothing about life and death and those are resaults. Poor being ussualy it is a very painfull for them.

I could retrive him, but since he already made some link with You i think that this is the task for You. Find Bruce Moen's books if You want to knwo how to do it and good luck
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This black thing is when You turn off phisical eyes and turn on nonphisical, but yet do not start to dream. If You meditate You can do it also, to be in this black thing.
For me it was the opposite - as soon as the black band thingy appeared I instantly broke free of the paralyzation and came back into the pure "physical". Sorta like the black alien thingy I described in my first post in this thread.

Also - I'm wondering why shit like this never seems to happen when I'm drunk, and when it does I seem to have way more control over it. Something to do with the pineal gland maybe (?)
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Also - I'm wondering why shit like this never seems to happen when I'm drunk, and when it does I seem to have way more control over it. Something to do with the pineal gland maybe (?)
I heard that alcohol lowers your vibrational frequency therefore not allowing you to access the higher dimensions.
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For me it was the opposite - as soon as the black band thingy appeared I instantly broke free of the paralyzation and came back into the pure "physical". Sorta like the black alien thingy I described in my first post in this thread.
If You go from phisical to nonphisical or from nonphisical to phisical You have to pass this state anyway.
Why do You belive that it have anything to do with aliens? Why such idea?

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Also - I'm wondering why shit like this never seems to happen when I'm drunk, and when it does I seem to have way more control over it. Something to do with the pineal gland maybe (?)
I have no idea why.
When You are drunk alcochol is going out of Your body thorough skin, and it burns etherical and astral body. Your nonphisical self hate alcochol.
I had a long and hard battle and still have it, becouse i love to drink and my energetical body hate it
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I had a long and hard battle and still have it, becouse i love to drink and my energetical body hate it
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"...Interesting.

I've had experiences such as those - the most memorable being attacked by a small black figure, almost identical in shape to the "Grey" aliens of poular culture - large upper-head, small body etc.

I'll have to read up on it a little more - I wouldn't rule out it being a projection of subconscious fears/beliefs though, both my own and the collective."
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i have had that black creature drag me out of my body a few times. like a black shadow of gollum?
but i haven't seen it in ages. i can chase it by projecting a BOOMING Brian Blessed type voice. "leave me alone"

i have had sleep paralysis almost everytime i sleep for the last week.
apart from the sat night when i had a few beers
if i sleep in the afternoon i get it too.
last night i though i'd fly off up the road but was instantly thown back onto my bed.
when i'm back in my body i can move my lips and breath, so i calm myself and try to move my head. eventually i can.
I normally get a swig of water and give it a few mins before i try to sleep again.
but sometime i just slip back into paralysis. i laugh somtimes and wake up again.
i always get the feeling that someone, who isn't that nice, is behind me but i can't always see who it is.
I don't get too freaked out by it, but it does feel a little odd.

btw this recent spate of this had coincided with having an orgonite pyramid by my bed.

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Ive had two experience of sleep paralysis (while hallucinating) and even i am not convinced there is anything sinister to this. I keep an open mind about it but who knows? Ill share my experiences and ask for your opinions

The first time this happened i fell asleep on my couch downstairs. I woke up (my mind was definately conscious) and i was paralyzed completely. I could move my eyeballs and blink. I was scared as hell, didnt know what was going on and i started panicking a little.
The door suddenly swung open, and thinking it was my mother (i was 17 at the time, now 22) i tried to scream 'mum?' Only air came out and a shadowy figure came into the room. This figure seemed to have a human shape, but a complete silhouette, completely black. It almost looked like it wasnt solid. It came over, kneeled down beside me. By this time i was SHITTING my pants seriously im not a coward but i was really scared. It seemed to poke me with something then suddenly it was gone and i could move.

The second time this happened i was in my room sleeping and the same shit started to happen. But this time when the door started to swing open i was not scared. I said to myself 'your just hallucinating, just laugh at it and go back to sleep'. So i closed my eyes and bam i fell straight back to sleep almost as soon as i closed my eyes.

I think it was all in my head but theres something niggling at me saying it was feeding on my fear. Im not sure what to make of it, maybe one of you guys knowing a bit more on the subject might be able to point out whether it was sinister or just my mind playing a joke.
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