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YOU actually noticing something is usually proof of the opposite.

Kindly point out where I have failed to provide an answer and detail which items I have responded with, that are spam.

You make lots of off topic bullshit noise.....so nobody watching this will expect a reply. In fact....anybody with any genuine truthing instinct will notice that I am the one doing all the honest posting. You....not so much
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NASA and the German Nazi

This is the follow-up to this post: https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...5&postcount=71

The ancient Hebrew “Nasa” has been translated in the KJV as lift up, arise, exalt, extol, raise, high, etc.
The ancient Hebrew “Nasi” is actually derived from “Nasa”; I think that “Nazi” is just another spelling of “Nasi”.

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I have been told that Werner Von Braun retrieved two cases of rocks using a U.S. Navy ship in the Antarctic years before the Apollo missions. The shipping labels on the cases said "NASA, Houston, Texas".
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Or they could have used rock samples picked up in Antarctica during the intensive exploration of that continent during the International Geophysical Year in 1957, when that continent was extensively explored. Werner Von Braun had Antarctic rocks shipped to NASA. Any strange rock would do if there were no fossils in it. These rocks could be slowly doled out, but only to those geologists who could be counted on to agree with anything the government said. Much of academia can be relied on to do just that!
Strangely enough, rocks were later found in Antarctica that closely resemble "Moon rocks". In point of fact, some geologists are now positive that these rocks were blasted from the Moon to Earth during immense meteoric impacts.
From Ralph Rene - "NASA Mooned America" (1994): https://ia800406.us.archive.org/31/i...%20237%20p.pdf

During the summer of 1966–67, Von Braun and a small group of other top NASA managers took a “field trip” to Antarctica.



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One of Glennan’s first NASA recruits was German Nazi “rocket engineer” Wernher von Braun
Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun (1912 – 1977) was a German-born science fiction writer. He was so successful because he belonged to a “noble” family.
His father, Magnus Freiherr von Braun served as Minister of Agriculture. His mother, Emmy von Quistorp traced her ancestry to medieval European royalty and was a descendant of Philip III of France, Valdemar I of Denmark, Robert III of Scotland, and Edward III of England. He descended from Royal blood, maybe you haven’t heard that these Royals claim that the “lion” in all of their coats of arms, represents the “lion of Judah” (to illustrate their Jewish ancestry).
Not coincidentally Wernher von Braun married his maternal first cousin, Maria Luise von Quistorp (born in 1928), in 1947 (she was 16 years younger and he proposed after she turned 18).

In 1930, Von Braun attended a presentation given by Auguste Piccard (pioneer of high-altitude balloon flight), and reportedly said to him: "You know, I plan on traveling to the Moon at some time".
According to the state propaganda Von Braun was involved in the development of rocket technology in Germany, and helped to design and develop the V-2 rocket. Before 1939, German “scientists” contacted American physicist Robert H. Goddard with technical questions. Goddard was glad to help them to develop the A-4 rocket that would later become known as the V-2.
Hitler personally made Von Braun a professor because he had showed him a really “scientific” colour movie showing an A-4 taking off on 7 July 1943; an exceptional promotion for an engineer of only 31 years.

After the “suicide” of Adolf Hitler was announced, Von Braun immediately joined the Allied forces, at the beginning of May 1945.
He and his group that developed missile technology were part of the about 1,600 German “scientists” that were recruited by the US in Operation Paperclip.
Between 1952 and 1956, Von Braun led the Army's rocket development team that developed the Redstone rocket for nuclear ballistic missile, which was never used for real. Van Braun supposedly developed the rockets that launched the US’s first space satellite Explorer 1.
Wernher von Braun and his group were recruited by NASA in 1958.

In 1952, Von Braun first published his science fiction story on a manned space station in a series of articles titled "Man Will Conquer Space Soon!". This built on the 1929 science fiction story by Herman Potocnik in his book “The Problem of Space Travel – The Rocket Motor”.
The 1968 movie “2001 a space odyssey“ would draw heavily on this science fiction story.

Von Braun wrote a science fiction novel on human spaceflight to Mars the subject, Von Braun later published small portions of this opus in magazines. Wernher von Braun “anticipated” later stories on serious adverse reactions caused by weightlessness (space sickness).

Von Braun also made science fiction television films with Walt Disney and the Disney studios in the 1950s. The initial broadcast about space exploration “Man in Space” had 40 million viewers.
See Wernher von Braun, Willi Ley, Walt Disney and Dr. E. Heinz Haber (another Nazi Rocket "scientist" brought to the US in Operation Paperclip).


In staging Apollo, Von Braun worked closely with former Peenemünde teammate, Kurt H. Debus, the first director of the Kennedy Space Center. His dream to sell the science fiction story of “The first men in the moon” became a reality on 16 July 1969, when the gullible public was fooled by some stupid video footage. It were reportedly the Saturn V rockets that made the astronauts land on the moon.
See Charles W. Mathews, Von Braun, George Mueller, and Lt. Gen. Samuel C. Phillips in the Launch Control Center following the Apollo 11 liftoff, 16 July 1969.


When the Apollo program didn’t get enough viewers it was aborted, and Von Braun retired from NASA on 26 May 1972: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun


In 1930, von Braun attended the Technische Hochschule Berlin, where he joined the Spaceflight Society and assisted Willy Ley in his liquid-fuelled rocket motor tests with Hermann Oberth.
German immigrant Willi Ley was America’s primary source on the Vril Society and the flying saucer technology of Nazi Germany. Ley had been a Vril-Thule member.

Starting in 1931, Willi Ley tutored Wernher von Braun on rocket science. In 1939, Wernher von Braun became a high ranking Nazi SS Officer. He was head of the team that designed the German V-2 rockets.
In 1945, through “Operation Paperclip” Von Braun was brought to the US where he became a founder of the US disinformation campaign NASA.
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(archived here: http://archive.is/pUMp1)


See the following video with the Wernher Von Braun who presents a pure science fiction story of going to the moon (look at the pictures!).
He tells about a refuelling operation in low earth orbit, and an atomic reactor.
This goofball was made a physics professor by Hitler for his coloured movie presentation.
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Old 19-07-2018, 08:18 PM   #84
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Frustrating isn’t it?
Tough. Try getting practically every bloody post ignored by head up arse hoax claimers.

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If you don’t reply... you get insulted for not replying, with demands to reply.
That's you. But there are very few insults, I attack your content mainly.

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Even when you reply... you get insulted for not replying with enough detail or for the contents of your post.
No, you liar. You get pulled up about ignoring virtually the whole thing. You are pathetic.

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Derailing is of course a motive.
A lie. My posts are always on topic or with the flow of side debate from that topic.

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I think that the bot is programmed to make people “afraid” to post about anything that is considered “too controversial”.
Maybe you should stop being a prick and calling me a bot?
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NASA and the German Nazi
Irrelevant thread derailing.

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The ancient Hebrew “Nasa” has been translated in the KJV as lift up, arise, exalt, extol, raise, high, etc.
Bullshit....

https://www.quora.com/Does-NASA-in-H...y-mean-deceive

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The ancient Hebrew “Nasi” is actually derived from “Nasa”; I think that “Nazi” is just another spelling of “Nasi”.
Wow, thanks for you mind numbingly shitty thoughts.

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According to Ralph Rene:
The imbecile who thinks pi is wrong, stars should appear in images at normal exposures and Archimedes is wrong...amongst hundreds of blithering utterances!

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During the summer of 1966–67, Von Braun and a small group of other top NASA managers took a “field trip” to Antarctica.
Yes. The one where the HB clowns suggest he collected rocks Yep, send a rocket engineer, not a geologist. Publish pictures

https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...postcount=2586

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In staging Apollo, Von Braun worked closely with former Peenemünde teammate, Kurt H. Debus, the first director of the Kennedy Space Center. His dream to sell the science fiction story of “The first men in the moon” became a reality on 16 July 1969, when the gullible public was fooled by some stupid video footage.
When Rene makes a bare assertion, his are barer than the most stupid possible


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See the following video with the Wernher Von Braun who presents a pure science fiction story of going to the moon (look at the pictures!).
Gibberish.


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This goofball was made a physics professor by Hitler for his coloured movie presentation.
But, but Ralphy, you never even got a bloody o-level.
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I even have a source (but never once have claimed that “nasa” is “deceive” in Hebrew)…
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The ancient Hebrew Nasi (#5387), meant raised or exalted one.
It comes from the Hebrew Nasa (#5375), which is translated in the KJV as lift up, arise, exalt, extol, raise, high, etc.
Nasi is used 132 times in the OT, and is (wrongly?) translated in the KJV as prince, captain, chief, ruler, vapours, governor, chief, clouds, part, prince.

See James Strong's “Greek and Hebrew dictionaries” 1890 (the numbers 5375 and 5387 refer to the numbers used by Strong): https://archive.org/stream/StrongsGr...onary_djvu.txt
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i even have a source (but never once have claimed that “nasa” is “deceive” in hebrew)…
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Default NASA - Freemasons

Even at a young age, Wernher Von Braun was a huge fan of science fiction books about space travel, including the fictional stories of Jules Verne and H.G. Wells (the inventor of “The first men in the moon” and “atomic bombs”). He even wrote his own science fiction including “Lunetta” that was published in a German magazine, about a rocket flight to a space station.
Von Braun also wrote a letter to the greatest liar of the 20th century Albert Einstein (1879–1955) with rocketry-related questions. Von Braun showed Einstein’s reply proudly to his parents, his professors and fellow students.

In 1947, the 34-year-old Von Braun married his 18-year-old maternal first cousin, Maria Luise von Quistorp (born in 1928). Von Braun had been “wooing” the underage Maria for years.
In 1955, Maria and Wernher von Braun renounced their German citizenship to become US citizens: https://ascelibrary.org/doi/full/10....3-5630.0000162


I had already found out that NASA has been affiliated with Hollywood and the German Nazis that were pushing the alien invasion threat with flying saucers. It should come as no surprise that many NASA a$tronauts were freemasons.
On 16 September 1969, Mason Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin visited the House of the Temple in Washington. He was accompanied by his father, Edwin E. Aldrin, Sr., also a Scottish Rite Mason.

John Glenn, one of NASA’s first astronauts and US senator, is a Mason.
Edgar Mitchell, a supposed moon-walker in the Apollo 14 mission, is an Order at Artesta Lodge in New Mexico.
James Irwin, who also supposedly walked on the moon in Apollo 15, was a Tejon Lodge member in Colorado Springs.

Donn Eisele, who was on Apollo 7, was a member of the Luther B. Turner Lodge in Ohio.
Gordon Cooper, who was aboard Mercury 9 and Gemini 5, was a Master Mason in Carbondale Lodge in Colorado.
Virgil Grissom, who was on Apollo 1 and 15, Mercury 5 and Gemini 3, was a Master Mason from Mitchell Lodge in Indiana.
Walter Schirra Jr., part of Apollo 7, Sigma 7, Gemini 6 and Mercury 8, was a 33rd degree Mason at Canaveral Lodge in Florida.
Thomas Stafford, on Apollo 10 and 18, Gemini 7 and 9, is a Mason at Western Star Lodge in Oklahoma.

Paul Weitz, on Skylab 2 and Challenger, is from Lawrence Lodge in Pennsylvania.
NASA astronauts Neil Armstrong, Allen Sheppard, William Pogue, Vance Brand, and Anthony England all had fathers who were Freemasons too!

The brother of C. Fred Kleinknecht, head of NASA at the time of the Apollo moon hoax program, even became Sovereign Grand Commander of the Council of the 33rd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of the Southern Jurisdiction: https://aplanetruth.info/space-trave...nd-freemasons/

See Buzz Aldrin’s 19 September 1969 “thank you” letter to Grand Commander Smith after his visit at the House of the Temple.
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NASA freemasons. Let's attempt to poison the well with other moronic shit.

So, bloody, what!

The rocks. Freemasons can pick them up off the Moon too!
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I’ve been thinking about some “comparable” experiment to the landing on the moon of the lunar module that could be done on earth.
An ice buggy, with no steer or anything to keep it in a certain direction (like sharp irons) or brakes. It has an incredible powerful motor (like the engine of an F-16). The engine is “throttleable” but it can’t be turned in any direction for steering.
Now this ice buggy is going with a speed of 6000 km/h over an ice lake, there is no wind and the shore of the lake is at 10 km. The ice buggy has to use its powerful engine to stop before it crashes on the shore. Please don’t try this yourself!



I’ve found a “good” story on rocket engines...
Isaac Newton stated in his third law that "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction". It is upon this principle that a rocket engine supposedly operates.
The amount of mass “shot” out of the nozzle defines the thrust of the rocket engine. It is this phenomenon that pushes a garden hose backward when water flows from the nozzle, or makes a gun recoil when fired: http://www.braeunig.us/space/propuls.htm

Hypothetically this means that if 1/10 of the mass of the lunar module is “shot” out of the nozzle at 10 times the starting speed of the module it could be slowed down to 0 in vacuum (ignoring gravitation for simplicity).

A typical rocket engine consists of nozzle, combustion chamber, and injector. The “problem” I see is that none of these science fiction stories explain what kind of “magical” nozzle could keep the vacuum out of the combustion chamber.
Liquids can't exist in a vacuum, so the nozzle would have to be closed to keep the vacuum “out” or the fuel couldn’t “combust”. But the nozzle has to be open to let the gasses “shoot” out for the thrust.

Another engineering problem would be the heat caused by the combustion.


There is another huge problem in the supposed working of the “lunar engine”...
According to Newton’s Action = Reaction law the “thrust” would come from “shooting” the exhausted gasses from the combustion chamber in a certain direction.
The following image shows that in vacuum the lunar module engines would at best work at a very low efficiency because in vacuum you can’t “shoot” out the air in 1 direction because it will automatically spread out in different directions.

If a nozzle couldn’t "exhausts" in only one direction in very low pressure, this would be even worse in vacuum. This proves that the "rocket engines" in vacuum couldn't work efficiently...
The following picture is based on a picture from the following Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_engine_nozzle
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Spam. Proper Spam!

This joke poster simply ignores responses. He claims to be a Fizzix expert but is a rockets in space denier. Answered this shit half a dozen times.

The problem is the ignorance of the poster not the chemical reaction and massive thrust generated.
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look at the quality of this video


https://youtu.be/4y37aRSn7Uw



how come so many of space and nasa (& other sensitive subjects) videos and images are of , it seems, intentionally 'bad' quality?


I would say to cover up details - to help cover up the lies associated with the subject.
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look at the quality of this video
Yes.

Looks fine to me. Very distant object maximum zoom and resolution. No HD in those days

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how come so many of space and nasa (& other sensitive subjects) videos and images are of , it seems, intentionally 'bad' quality?
None of them intentionally. Apollo 15/16/17 has very good quality versions available showing more than enough detail to prove they are on the Moon.

Here, everyone ignores this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OVh0gm5vtc

That is actual film footage not video, but it is the old problem, multi generational degradation from unknown provenance....ie. not the original.

The camera used is the Maurer 16mm Data acquisition camera. The video explains this at the one minute mark.

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Thanks for your biased opinion. Explain some of them. Start with the video above and explain how that was filmed on Earth!
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Hermann Oberth – in the movies

I had already found that the first administrator of NASA, T. Keith Glennan, had been a big Hollywood manager before he became involved in staging the “hydrogen bombs” and space travel and that German Nazi Wernher von Braun worked with Glennan and Walt Disney.


Hermann Oberth was born on June 25, 1894 in Transylvania (then part of the Austro-Hungarian empire now part of Romania). He was born to German speaking parents and became a German.
At an early age, Oberth became a huge fan of spaceflight science fiction by authors like Jules Verne. Just like Wernher von Braun and Robert Goddard.

Oberth learned of the 1919 book by Robert Goddard "A Method Of Reaching Extreme Altitudes". In 1922, Oberth wrote to Goddard and suggested an international project to develop liquid-fuelled rockets.
In 1923, Oberth published his book "Die Rakete Zu Den Planetenraumen" (The Rocket Into Planetary Space).
In 1927, Oberth joined the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt (Society for Space Travel) to become its president. Members of the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt included: Willy Ley, Johannes Winkler, Max Valier, Rudolf Nebel, Kurt Hainisch, Walter Hohmannn, Eugene Sanger , Klaus Riedel, Rolf Engel, and the young Wernher von Braun.

In 1928, Oberth became technical advisor to director Fritz Lang, who was filming the movie "Frau Im Mond" (Woman in the moon). On the set Oberth was helped by Ley, Valier, Nebel, Riedel and the young and eager science fiction fan Wernher von Braun.
Oberth (with the help of Von Braun) constructed and tested a small rocket engine on 23 July 1930. See members of the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt with the rocket in Berlin, 1930. From left to right: Rudolf Nebel, Franz Ritter, unknown, Kurt Heinisch, unknown, Hermann Oberth, unknown, Klaus Riedel, Wernher von Braun, unknown.


Oberth worked at Peenemunde from 1941 to 1943.
After World War II, Oberth came to the US to continue to work on science fiction with Wernher von Braun at the Army Ballistic Missile Agency: http://waterocket.explorer.free.fr/herman_oberth.htm
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So Oberth and the young Von Braun were already involved in special effects for the movies long before they came to the US to work their “magic”...
See Hermann Oberth in the forefront with Wernher von Braun seated right behind him at the Army Ballistic Missile Agency at Huntsville, Alabama in 1956. Also pictured Ernst Stuhlinger (seated on the left); H.N. Toftoy, Commanding Officer and responsible for "Project Paperclip" (in uniform); and Robert Lusser (standing on the right).



Fritz Lang is best known for his futuristic masterpiece Metropolis (1926) that nearly bankrupted Germany’s state-financed studio, Ufa.
Lang worked closely with Germany’s leading rocketry science fiction expert, Hermann Oberth, and they visually replicated the rocket described in Oberth’s book, "Die Rakete Zu Den Planetenraumen".
Forty years later the Apollo 11 moon landing closely followed Lang’s and Oberth’s “film script”.

The film featured a multiple-stage booster system to attain escape velocity; a fin stabilisation design for the rocket’s base; before the launch, a media frenzy descends upon the area; and a count down to zero for launch.
The movie shows a crew floating in zero gravity in the space ship.
After the rocket lands on the moon, the crew encounters lower gravity.

As part of the film’s publicity, Oberth and Wernher von Braun tried to launch an actual rocket for the film’s premiere. This stunt failed.
Oberth also advised for the American movie of the moon landing “Destination Moon” (1950)”: http://sensesofcinema.com/2004/cteq/woman_in_the_moon/
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Here’s the (full?) movie “Destination Moon” (1950)”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsXVfddSF_A


I was shocked to find out how “advanced” the special effects were in Lang’s science fiction movie, 40 years before the Apollo moon landings were staged. Judge for yourself…

Launch scene Frau im mond


Landing on the moon scene Frau im mond



In the following video a strong case is made that some of the “special effects” used to give the impression of lower gravity in walking on the moon are: 1) slowed down replay; 2) wires.


Another possibility to create the illusion of lower gravity could be to fill the (ultra light) space suits with helium gas (idea “borrowed” from The nine).
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Old 26-07-2018, 03:10 PM   #95
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Saturn 5 engines are sitting in museums. They can make blueprints from them. You can blueprint from any engine that you have. Yes, they lie about everything.
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Saturn 5 engines are sitting in museums. They can make blueprints from them. You can blueprint from any engine that you have. Yes, they lie about everything.
The Saturn V engines are all extensively blue-printed at the Johnson Space Centre.

They lie about everything???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cphNpqKpKc4
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Hermann Oberth – in the movies

I had already found that the first administrator of NASA, T. Keith Glennan, had been a big Hollywood manager before he became involved in staging the “hydrogen bombs” and space travel and that German Nazi Wernher von Braun worked with Glennan and Walt Disney.


Hermann Oberth was born on June 25, 1894 in Transylvania (then part of the Austro-Hungarian empire now part of Romania). He was born to German speaking parents and became a German.
At an early age, Oberth became a huge fan of spaceflight science fiction by authors like Jules Verne. Just like Wernher von Braun and Robert Goddard.

Oberth learned of the 1919 book by Robert Goddard "A Method Of Reaching Extreme Altitudes". In 1922, Oberth wrote to Goddard and suggested an international project to develop liquid-fuelled rockets.
In 1923, Oberth published his book "Die Rakete Zu Den Planetenraumen" (The Rocket Into Planetary Space).
In 1927, Oberth joined the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt (Society for Space Travel) to become its president. Members of the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt included: Willy Ley, Johannes Winkler, Max Valier, Rudolf Nebel, Kurt Hainisch, Walter Hohmannn, Eugene Sanger , Klaus Riedel, Rolf Engel, and the young Wernher von Braun.

In 1928, Oberth became technical advisor to director Fritz Lang, who was filming the movie "Frau Im Mond" (Woman in the moon). On the set Oberth was helped by Ley, Valier, Nebel, Riedel and the young and eager science fiction fan Wernher von Braun.
Oberth (with the help of Von Braun) constructed and tested a small rocket engine on 23 July 1930. See members of the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt with the rocket in Berlin, 1930. From left to right: Rudolf Nebel, Franz Ritter, unknown, Kurt Heinisch, unknown, Hermann Oberth, unknown, Klaus Riedel, Wernher von Braun, unknown.


Oberth worked at Peenemunde from 1941 to 1943.
After World War II, Oberth came to the US to continue to work on science fiction with Wernher von Braun at the Army Ballistic Missile Agency: http://waterocket.explorer.free.fr/herman_oberth.htm
(archived here: http://archive.is/NBvs)


So Oberth and the young Von Braun were already involved in special effects for the movies long before they came to the US to work their “magic”...
See Hermann Oberth in the forefront with Wernher von Braun seated right behind him at the Army Ballistic Missile Agency at Huntsville, Alabama in 1956. Also pictured Ernst Stuhlinger (seated on the left); H.N. Toftoy, Commanding Officer and responsible for "Project Paperclip" (in uniform); and Robert Lusser (standing on the right).



Fritz Lang is best known for his futuristic masterpiece Metropolis (1926) that nearly bankrupted Germany’s state-financed studio, Ufa.
Lang worked closely with Germany’s leading rocketry science fiction expert, Hermann Oberth, and they visually replicated the rocket described in Oberth’s book, "Die Rakete Zu Den Planetenraumen".
Forty years later the Apollo 11 moon landing closely followed Lang’s and Oberth’s “film script”.

The film featured a multiple-stage booster system to attain escape velocity; a fin stabilisation design for the rocket’s base; before the launch, a media frenzy descends upon the area; and a count down to zero for launch.
The movie shows a crew floating in zero gravity in the space ship.
After the rocket lands on the moon, the crew encounters lower gravity.

As part of the film’s publicity, Oberth and Wernher von Braun tried to launch an actual rocket for the film’s premiere. This stunt failed.
Oberth also advised for the American movie of the moon landing “Destination Moon” (1950)”: http://sensesofcinema.com/2004/cteq/woman_in_the_moon/
(archived here: http://archive.is/xL56h)


Here’s the (full?) movie “Destination Moon” (1950)”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsXVfddSF_A


I was shocked to find out how “advanced” the special effects were in Lang’s science fiction movie, 40 years before the Apollo moon landings were staged. Judge for yourself…

Launch scene Frau im mond


Landing on the moon scene Frau im mond



In the following video a strong case is made that some of the “special effects” used to give the impression of lower gravity in walking on the moon are: 1) slowed down replay; 2) wires.


Another possibility to create the illusion of lower gravity could be to fill the (ultra light) space suits with helium gas (idea “borrowed” from The nine).

Good info.
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I was shocked to find out how “advanced” the special effects were in Lang’s science fiction movie, 40 years before the Apollo moon landings were staged. Judge for yourself…
Haha...scraping the bottom of the barrel with a blunt spoon The special effects are appallingly obvious

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In the following video a strong case is made that some of the “special effects” used to give the impression of lower gravity in walking on the moon are: 1) slowed down replay; 2) wires.
I dare you Jimmy to do something honest and amazing!! Watch my DIRECT response videos and comment. Your video is made by a lying git who has manipulated and cherry picked. I can put several videos up showing this!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vawJhSnFcQ0






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Another possibility to create the illusion of lower gravity could be to fill the (ultra light) space suits with helium gas (idea “borrowed” from The nine).
An idea so stupid it beggars belief.How much lift do you think that backpack will generate filled with helium?? Next to nothing!! They use small weights to keep down dozens of these childrens balloons
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Further to this video....i want to show just how totally dishonest this bloke is. The flash on the radio antenna from the Apollo 17 flag ceremony comes from this video sequence below.

If anyone cannot clearly see the half dozen, totally obvious, radio antenna flashes...then they are blind or lying!!

Try 2:40 for starters....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk4bJqF-ZbQ
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If anyone cannot clearly see the half dozen, totally obvious, radio antenna flashes...then they are blind or lying!!

Try 2:40 for starters....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk4bJqF-ZbQ
I agree that the strange looking flashes aren’t “evidence” for wires...
Who is operating the camera?

General observations on this video:
- Most of the video looks like it’s played in slow motion.
- There is no reason to believe that this was one continuous “take”.

The astronauts should be conducting scientific experiments and would be on a tight schedule. I would expect them to “act” differently.

In my opinion the most damaging in this video is...
From 0:43-0:45 - First the leg of the astronaut, who is behind the flag, goes through the pole. Then the backpack goes through the flagpole and flag…
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