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There is usually a hidden message/truth in those old Star Trek episodes.
I have just watched an old Star Trek episode called "The Naked Time".
It's the famous episode where Mr Sulu goes "mad" and takes off his shirt and gets his fencing sword out and chases some of the crew down a corridor.



Anyway, the crew begin to go "mad" and are no longer able control/hide their deepest inner emotions (their true selves maybe ? I'm not sure about that ). Even Spock cries! And what is even more interesting, is that when Spock tries to re-take control of his emotions he says "2....4.....6...6....6". And to me, at that point, the reference to 666 is about Spock revealing his human side.
(btw Spock is PART hu-man and part vulcan and believes only in logic usually),

The episode was named "The Naked Time". According to the bible, the last time that man was "naked" was when Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, and they had not yet learned to the concept of shame. Adam and Eve then ate from the tree of Knowledge (via a reptilian), and they LEARNT the concept of shame. They then covered up their bodies. Prior to gaining this knowledge they did not know of shame and therefore had no reason to hide/control their emotions.

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I just watched that episode the other day!

Star Trek is absolutely loaded with occult significance. The moral of "The Naked Time" seems to be that people must not let their personal interests get in the way of serving the Great Work (the Enterprise). Spock is the "Tubal-Cain" (Vulcan) and signifies the pure occult Science. Together, Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty represent the four elements, Fire, Air, Water and Earth.

A consistent theme throughout the Original Series episodes is that the Fall of Man was for his own benefit—a very Luciferian concept, perhaps. In "This Side of Paradise," Kirk states it explicitly:
MCCOY: Well, that's the second time man's been thrown out of paradise.
KIRK: No, no. This time we walked out on our own. Maybe we weren't meant for paradise. Maybe we were meant to fight our way through – struggle, claw our way up, scratch for every inch of the way. Maybe we can't stroll to the music of the lute. We must march to the sound of drums.
Back in 1997, William Cooper wrote:
The Philosophy of the Mystery Schools is the Luciferian Philosophy as espoused by General (Christopher) Albert Pike, one of the founders of the KKK. But it is not his original thought... he just expounded upon it in forms that eventually became accessible to those who seek it out. Christopher means Christ-like. To the adept, Albert Pike achieved a mystical apotheosis in the Lodge of Perfection and brought forth the Christ within. He thus became Christed taking on the name Christopher.

Watch "StarTrek" from the beginning episodes up to the present, and you will begin to realize that it was an indoctrination into the concepts of socialism through subliminal initiation of the youth of the nation. The Captains James T. Kirk (JTK = K(nights) (of the) T(emple) (of) J(erusalem) and Christopher Pike are symbolic salutes to the Order of the Templars, and to the Brotherhoods greatest philosopher and probably its most prolific writer the Christed General Albert Pike.

The Enterprise represents their great work or plan which if navigated properly will lead them to the realization of their dream of a united socialist utopian world.
So far Cooper. Christopher Knowles has also observed that the Enterprise, NCC-1701, is the Bark of Osiris—Osiris having entered the ark on the 17th of Athyr, while the first Masonic Grand Lodge was formed in England in 1717. There is a curious similarity in shape between the Enterprise and the astrological sign for Uranus:

"The Enemy Within" also presents a concept that would be immediately familiar to occultists. Due to a transporter accident, Kirk is split into two persons, the Good Kirk and the Bad Kirk.
SPOCK: You have here an unusual opportunity to appraise the human mind, or to examine, in Earth terms, the roles of good and evil in a man. His negative side, which you call hostility, lust, violence; and his positive side, which Earth people express as compassion, love, tenderness. And what is it that makes one man an exceptional leader? We see here indications that it is his negative side which makes him strong--that his evil side, if you will, properly controlled and disciplined, is vital to his strength. Your negative side, removed from you, the power of command begins to elude you.
In other words, without his Evil side—properly controlled—the Good Kirk has no force of Magickal Will with which to command the Enterprise. In the Golden Dawn initiation, the the neophyte is told: "Child of Earth, remember that unbalanced force is evil, unbalanced mercy is but weakness, unbalanced severity is but oppression."

And again,
SPOCK: Being split into two halves is no theory with me, doctor. I have a human half, you see, as well as an alien half... submerged, constantly at war with each other. I survive it because my intelligence wins out over both, makes them live together.
Horus subduing Typhon.

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Thanks for the reply 1977. Interesting stuff.

I would say that the left-brainer Spock looks like, and maybe symbolises lucifer/satan.
The opposite personality to Spock would be a right-brainer, someone who has the free-will (and the basic human right) to go against logic.
Some religions believe that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers - Jesus wanted free-will for man, but Lucifer did NOT want man to have that option.

1977, have you seen that episode(s) where it would appear that the producers of Star Trek seem to want to expose False Flag attacks, and to also expose how the Feds (the Federation) try to manipulate 2 sides into a war ? When you see episodes like that you have to question whether Star Trek REALLY does have a socialist agenda or not.

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I just watched that episode the other day!

Star Trek is absolutely loaded with occult significance. The moral of "The Naked Time" seems to be that people must not let their personal interests get in the way of serving the Great Work (the Enterprise). Spock is the "Tubal-Cain" (Vulcan) and signifies the pure occult Science. Together, Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty represent the four elements, Fire, Air, Water and Earth.

A consistent theme throughout the Original Series episodes is that the Fall of Man was for his own benefit—a very Luciferian concept, perhaps. In "This Side of Paradise," Kirk states it explicitly:
MCCOY: Well, that's the second time man's been thrown out of paradise.
KIRK: No, no. This time we walked out on our own. Maybe we weren't meant for paradise. Maybe we were meant to fight our way through – struggle, claw our way up, scratch for every inch of the way. Maybe we can't stroll to the music of the lute. We must march to the sound of drums.
Back in 1997, William Cooper wrote:
The Philosophy of the Mystery Schools is the Luciferian Philosophy as espoused by General (Christopher) Albert Pike, one of the founders of the KKK. But it is not his original thought... he just expounded upon it in forms that eventually became accessible to those who seek it out. Christopher means Christ-like. To the adept, Albert Pike achieved a mystical apotheosis in the Lodge of Perfection and brought forth the Christ within. He thus became Christed taking on the name Christopher.

Watch "StarTrek" from the beginning episodes up to the present, and you will begin to realize that it was an indoctrination into the concepts of socialism through subliminal initiation of the youth of the nation. The Captains James T. Kirk (JTK = K(nights) (of the) T(emple) (of) J(erusalem) and Christopher Pike are symbolic salutes to the Order of the Templars, and to the Brotherhoods greatest philosopher and probably its most prolific writer the Christed General Albert Pike.

The Enterprise represents their great work or plan which if navigated properly will lead them to the realization of their dream of a united socialist utopian world.
So far Cooper. Christopher Knowles has also observed that the Enterprise, NCC-1701, is the Bark of Osiris—Osiris having entered the ark on the 17th of Athyr, while the first Masonic Grand Lodge was formed in England in 1717. There is a curious similarity in shape between the Enterprise and the astrological sign for Uranus:

"The Enemy Within" also presents a concept that would be immediately familiar to occultists. Due to a transporter accident, Kirk is split into two persons, the Good Kirk and the Bad Kirk.
SPOCK: You have here an unusual opportunity to appraise the human mind, or to examine, in Earth terms, the roles of good and evil in a man. His negative side, which you call hostility, lust, violence; and his positive side, which Earth people express as compassion, love, tenderness. And what is it that makes one man an exceptional leader? We see here indications that it is his negative side which makes him strong--that his evil side, if you will, properly controlled and disciplined, is vital to his strength. Your negative side, removed from you, the power of command begins to elude you.
In other words, without his Evil side—properly controlled—the Good Kirk has no force of Magickal Will with which to command the Enterprise. In the Golden Dawn initiation, the the neophyte is told: "Child of Earth, remember that unbalanced force is evil, unbalanced mercy is but weakness, unbalanced severity is but oppression."

And again,
SPOCK: Being split into two halves is no theory with me, doctor. I have a human half, you see, as well as an alien half... submerged, constantly at war with each other. I survive it because my intelligence wins out over both, makes them live together.
Horus subduing Typhon.
Wow, that's a fascinating exegisis of, erm, Star Trek. I had not realized it could be interpreted so deeply. Thanks, I shall think on this in the coming days.

I was particularly struck by this part -

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SPOCK: You have here an unusual opportunity to appraise the human mind, or to examine, in Earth terms, the roles of good and evil in a man. His negative side, which you call hostility, lust, violence; and his positive side, which Earth people express as compassion, love, tenderness. And what is it that makes one man an exceptional leader? We see here indications that it is his negative side which makes him strong--that his evil side, if you will, properly controlled and disciplined, is vital to his strength. Your negative side, removed from you, the power of command begins to elude you.
That is a lot like what someone said to me once...about me, actually...

How strange that it should be repeated in a television show.

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I like the time paradox episodes from any of the series.

The best one is a Voyager episode called Timeless.

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"The Enemy Within" also presents a concept that would be immediately familiar to occultists. Due to a transporter accident, Kirk is split into two persons, the Good Kirk and the Bad Kirk.
SPOCK: You have here an unusual opportunity to appraise the human mind, or to examine, in Earth terms, the roles of good and evil in a man. His negative side, which you call hostility, lust, violence; and his positive side, which Earth people express as compassion, love, tenderness. And what is it that makes one man an exceptional leader? We see here indications that it is his negative side which makes him strong--that his evil side, if you will, properly controlled and disciplined, is vital to his strength. Your negative side, removed from you, the power of command begins to elude you.
In other words, without his Evil side—properly controlled—the Good Kirk has no force of Magickal Will with which to command the Enterprise. In the Golden Dawn initiation, the the neophyte is told: "Child of Earth, remember that unbalanced force is evil, unbalanced mercy is but weakness, unbalanced severity is but oppression."

And again,
SPOCK: Being split into two halves is no theory with me, doctor. I have a human half, you see, as well as an alien half... submerged, constantly at war with each other. I survive it because my intelligence wins out over both, makes them live together.
Horus subduing Typhon.
Yeah I can see that the message from that episode COULD be a "negative" one. But maybe, it's NOT negative. Afterall, it's a fact (I would say) that we, as human beings, DO have the free-will to choose to carry out "good" or "bad" actions in our lives. So I would say that MAYBE Spock was just stating a fact.

Anyone who WANTS to be a leader (ie a person who wants to control other people) maybe DOES need to get his/her "strength" from SOMEWHERE. But maybe it's wrong in ANY SITUATION for people to have power over others, and therefore, the said leader WOULD NEED to tap into his/her potential of doing harm to his/her fellow man, so that they could then control them, through fear. Ie impose fear on others in order to control them.
Was it even NECESSARY for Kirk to be a leader ? I mean, was it even necessary to go into space on a 5 year mission ? No, he CHOSE to do it.
And in that other episode that I mentioned in the OP ("The Naked Time"), when Kirk went "mad", his deepest inner most emotion that he had been bottling up was that his role on the Enterprize had basically stolen his life, and he was unable to express his true feelings towards people because of it, and it hurt him immensely.
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What always struck me about the early Star Trek episodes was there was invariably the theme of a hidden power source. Don't know if anyone else noticed that.
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There is usually a hidden message/truth in those old Star Trek episodes.
I have just watched an old Star Trek episode called "The Naked Time".
It's the famous episode where Mr Sulu goes "mad" and takes off his shirt and gets his fencing sword out and chases some of the crew down a corridor.



Anyway, the crew begin to go "mad" and are no longer able control/hide their deepest inner emotions (their true selves maybe ? I'm not sure about that ). Even Spock cries! And what is even more interesting, is that when Spock tries to re-take control of his emotions he says "2....4.....6...6....6". And to me, at that point, the reference to 666 is about Spock revealing his human side.
(btw Spock is PART hu-man and part vulcan and believes only in logic usually),

The episode was named "The Naked Time". According to the bible, the last time that man was "naked" was when Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, and they had not yet learned to the concept of shame. Adam and Eve then ate from the tree of Knowledge (via a reptilian), and they LEARNT the concept of shame. They then covered up their bodies. Prior to gaining this knowledge they did not know of shame and therefore had no reason to hide/control their emotions.
I love Star trek , it is full of quirks like that .
ya have to know how to read them and how to spot them .

good thread by the way steevo.
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What always struck me about the early Star Trek episodes was there was invariably the theme of a hidden power source. Don't know if anyone else noticed that.
Yeah I was thinking something similar today. In one of the episodes, there is a greek god who relies on a hidden power source that the Enterprise ends up destroying (if I remember correctly).


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Yes thanks Cheeb, that is an absolutely briliant video, and EVERYONE should see it, not just Star Trek fans.
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I like the time paradox episodes from any of the series.

The best one is a Voyager episode called Timeless.

Timeless

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBaj9HNcKEA

I'm not a big fan of any of the newer Star Trek series, I only like the ORIGINAL series really, but I DO LIKE paradox episodes so I will take a look at that episode that you have recommended Them. Cheers!
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I love Star trek , it is full of quirks like that .
ya have to know how to read them and how to spot them .

good thread by the way steevo.
Yes I loved watching Star Trek when I was a kid, and I still do. But NOW I see them from a different perspective. I feel that overall, Star Trek had powerful messages in the majority of the episodes. Cheers Tracker!

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Thanks for the reply 1977. Interesting stuff.

I would say that the left-brainer Spock looks like, and maybe symbolises lucifer/satan.
The Vulcans seem to alternately represent the Jews (the "live long and prosper" hand sign is an old Jewish blessing), the Tibetans (in the movies), and the Sirians. And it is interesting that all three of these groups have, at different times, been pointed to as the real behind-the-scenes controllers—the "Secret Chiefs". Spock has said many times that he doesn't want to be captain; he prefers to operate behind the scenes. According to Robert Anton Wilson, many of the Illuminati believe that all of their efforts toward building a NWO is in preparation for "First Contact" with Sirius. And wouldn't you know it, the theme of the movie First Contact is a newly-united Earth being contacted by the Vulcans!
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1977, have you seen that episode(s) where it would appear that the producers of Star Trek seem to want to expose False Flag attacks, and to also expose how the Feds (the Federation) try to manipulate 2 sides into a war ? When you see episodes like that you have to question whether Star Trek REALLY does have a socialist agenda or not.
I'm not sure; what episodes are you talking about? There was one really weird first-season TNG episode called "Conspiracy," which was about how parasitic organisms, using human hosts as a cover, had infiltrated the highest levels of Starfleet Command.

I think Trek definitely has a socialist agenda, and it isn't exactly hidden. The United Federation of Planets is the NWO; it's a collectivist one-party military dictatorship where private property and money have been abolished. Everyone works towards the general welfare of the State. The Federation must constantly expand to survive.

I am not necessarily saying that the messages of Star Trek are strictly "good" or "bad," but there is a lot of subtext there. Nothing is insignificant in this show.
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What always struck me about the early Star Trek episodes was there was invariably the theme of a hidden power source. Don't know if anyone else noticed that.
One of the recurring themes that I have found is Kirk going up against either a god-man or a godlike computer, which he must use his own human ingenuity to overcome. I think this is all a commentary on killing the "false god," i.e., the God of Matter, or the god of blind fate—the Gnostic Demiurge—the "Architect" of the Matrix movies. The Luciferian/Gnostic influence is quite clearly scene in the episode "Return of the Archons," which, you guessed it, is about Kirk discovering and fighting the hidden power source, a godlike computer.

The whole plot of the movie Star Trek V is the crew of the Enterprise quite literally killing God—who turned out to be an impostor, anyways.

One of the very first episodes has Kirk facing off against Gary Lockwood as the god-man Gary Mitchell. Gary Lockwood went on to star in 2001: A Space Odyssey, where one of the biggest themes is of the protagonist killing the computer (HAL) and becoming a god.

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Gene Roddenberry used to attend a spiritual circle where the council of the nine were channeled . This is detailed in the book earth the only planet of choice . It is believed he got a lot of his plot ideas from these sessions

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2008/0...-pantheon.html
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The Nine claimed to be the creators of mankind, and had informed the channelers that they would be returning to Earth soon. Lab-9 had wanted to hire Roddenberry to write a screenplay based on the Council of Nine’s imminent return. To help Roddenberry in his research, Lab-9 flew him out to their headquarters, located on a large estate in Ossining, NY. There, Roddenberry met and interviewed several psychics, and prepared the groundwork for his script.
Roddenberry wrote a script called the Nine, in which he fictionalized his experiences at Lab-9 and the message for humanity that the Council of Nine wished to convey. But Roddenberry’s story focused more on his fictionalized alter -ego and his marital and financial worries than on the Nine themselves, and Lab-9 requested a rewrite. He handed the task of revising the script to an assistant, Jon Povill. In his revision, Povill posited that the hit sci-fi TV show that Roddenberry’s alter ego had produced in the 60’s was not actually his work, but had been channeled through him by the Council of Nine. UFO cultists in the 70’s and 80’s would make similar claims about Star Trek itself.

Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince tackled the issue of the Council of Nine in their controversial 2001 book, The Stargate Conspiracy. And the tale as they told it was a sordid one of government mischief and New Age gullibility. The man who set the whole thing up was Andrija Puharich, who was involved in the early career of famed Israeli psychic Uri Geller. According to Picknett and Prince, Puharich was also involved with the CIA’s notorious MK Ultra mind-control program as well.

And this was no ragtag bunch of hippie phreaks that Roddenberry was dealing with. According to Picknett and Prince, “the Nine's disciples included multimillionaire businessmen (many hiding behind pseudonyms and including members of Canada's richest family, the Bronfmans), European nobility, scientists from the Stanford Research Institute and at least one prominent political figure who was a personal friend of President Gerald Ford.” Roddenberry biographer Joel Engel noted that Whitmore introduced Roddenberry to several key figures in the British Broadcasting Corp. as well. It’s interesting to note that at the same time Roddenberry was meeting with all these British TV executives about the Council of Nine, a Star Trek knockoff called Space:1999 premiered on British television.
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http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2008/0...-pantheon.html
Yes, I really highly recommend what Christopher Knowles has written on this subject. I've probably plagiarized him a couple of times already.

His comparison of the Next Generation cast to the Egyptian Ennead in that article is eerily accurate, too!
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Darn it! I so wanna see the new one

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Thankyou THEM......

I know what you mean steevo......... took me over a yr to start watching the Next Generation then Voyager....but once a trekkie , always a trekkie...... .......regardless of where Roddenberrys' creative derived from........and As long as us plebs don't become the borg.

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what a great vid! thanks for sharing
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Excellent thread!

Thanks 1977 and 2013 for very interesting observations!
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