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Old 05-02-2018, 09:34 AM   #61
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Its not contradictory at all.

Jews run Hollywood.

But Hollywood answers to the CIA and the MIC, and they have to play ball and take orders.

So while they may run the day to day operations and money side of it, they do have to answer to higher powers which are military intelligence and their psychological operations division.

I think it may come a time when the elites are going to burn "the Jews" in another fake revolution similar to what we see now with Trump, where a Hitler type character will be claiming to "drain the swamp" of "Jewish influence". I'm pretty damn sure the elites are and have been setting up this scenario.
The CIA is populated by jewish templar and black nobility families who are all networked through freemasonry which aims to build a new solomons temple in jerusalem. The knights templar were the knights of the temple of solomon

the freemasonic british royal family believe they are from the line of david. see 'british israelism'
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Old 05-02-2018, 10:09 AM   #62
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The Origin of the Knights Templar – Descendants of Jewish Elders?
31 December, 2015 - 14:09 MarkPinkham

The Knights Templar initially arrived in the Holy Land on a mission to reclaim some treasure that they believed was rightfully theirs. According to the modern Templar historians, Tim Wallace-Murphy and Christopher Knight, the knights who banded together as the Knights Templar were part of a wave of European royalty descended from Jewish Elders that had fled the Holy Land around 70 AD, when it was invaded by the Romans.
Templars of the Rex Deus Families

Before leaving their homeland, these Elders had hidden their temple treasures and priceless Essene and Kabbalistic scrolls in strategic regions of the Holy Land so that the Roman invader Titus could not plunder them as the spoils of war. The Jewish Elders then immigrated to Europe. There, many of them married into the continent's noble families. Of these Elders, twenty-four would become the patriarchs of a group of European families known by the sobriquet of the “Rex Deus” or “Star” families.

For hundreds of years the secret locations of the Jewish treasure filtered down through the families of the Elders - until the First Crusade, when knighted members of the Rex Deus joined the procession of holy warriors traveling east with the dual goal of defeating the Moslems and recovering their family treasure.

The original nine Knights Templar were either born into or related to the Rex Deus families, as was Godfrey de Boullion, the French general who led them against the Saracens during the First Crusade. His cousin, King Baldwin II of Jerusalem, assisted the Templars in retrieving the treasure by donating the al-Aqsa Mosque for their use.

Treasures from the Holy Land to Scotland

Traces of the Templars’ ensuing excavations were later discovered in the 1800s by a detachment from the Royal Engineers of Great Britain and are now in the possession of the family of the late Knight Templar archivist of Scotland, Robert Brydon.

Greed and Decline: The Treasure of the Knights Templar and Their Downfall
Mystery of the Knights Templars: Protectors or Treasure Hunters on a Secret Mission?
The Masonic Initiation Wells of the Quinta da Regaleira

Apparently the Jewish Elders had stashed much of their treasure under Solomon’s Stables, because it was there that the Templars spent most of their time excavating. After nine years of digging, the original nine Knights had accumulated enough treasure and documents to fill four large trunks.

When their patron, King Baldwin II, suddenly took ill and died, the Knights took their four cases into Europe, stopping briefly at St. Omer in Flanders to have one of the documents copied and then replaced by cleric Lambert de St. Omer. Called the Heavenly Jerusalem, the copied document is now stored in the library of the University of Ghent in Belgium.

After a special ceremony with Pope Honorius III at the Council of Troyes in 1128 (making their organization official in the eyes of the Church) two of the Knights, Hughes de Payen and Andre de Montbard, carried their four cases of treasures to Kilwinning, Scotland, the location of the “Mother” Grand Lodge of Freemasonry.
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Old 05-02-2018, 10:21 AM   #63
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The british stewart royal blood line was a TEMPLAR bloodline

from wikipedia 'british israelism' page:

British Israelism (also called Anglo-Israelism) is a movement which holds the view that the people of England (or more broadly, the people of United Kingdom) are "genetically, racially, and linguistically the direct descendants" of the Ten Lost Tribes of ancient Israel.

In America, its ideas gave rise to the Christian Identity movement.

Anglo-Israelism has also been attributed to Francis Drake and James VI and I,[6] who believed he was the King of Israel.

The extent to which the clergy in Britain became aware of the movement may be gauged from the comment made by Cardinal John Henry Newman (1801–1890) when asked why he had left the Church of England in 1845 to join the Roman Catholic Church. He said that there was a very real danger that the movement "would take over the Church of England."

Between 1899 and 1902, adherents of British Israelism dug up parts of the Hill of Tara in the belief that the Ark of the Covenant was buried there, doing much damage to one of Ireland's most ancient royal and archaeological sites.[12] At the same time, British Israelism became associated with various pseudo-archaeological pyramidology theories, such as the notion that the Pyramid of Khufu contained a prophetic numerology of the British peoples.[13]

Adherents believe the Twelve Tribes of Israel are the twelve sons of the patriarch Jacob (who was later named Israel). Jacob elevated the descendants of Ephraim and Manasseh (the two sons of Joseph) to the status of full tribes in their own right, replacing the tribe of Joseph. A division occurred among the twelve tribes in the days of Jeroboam and Rehoboam, with the three tribes of Judah, Benjamin and partially Levi, forming the Kingdom of Judah, and the remaining ten tribes forming the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria).[23] Thus, they argue, "the great bulk of Israelites are not the Jews".[24]:71 [25][26] W. E. Filmer, writing in 1964, suggested that the fact that some Jews continue to search for the ten lost tribes implies that their representatives are not found among modern, historically multi-ethnic, Jews.[27] A number of British-Israelites quote Josephus to support their claim that the lost tribes of Israel are not the Jews: "the entire body of the people of Israel remained in that country; wherefore there are but two tribes in Asia and Europe subject to the Romans, while the ten tribes are beyond the Euphrates till now, and are an immense multitude."[28][24]:247[29][30]
British descend from the Lost Tribes
Jehu kneeling at the feet of Shalmaneser III on the Black Obelisk.

The key component of British Israelism is its representation of the migrations of the Lost Tribes of Israel. Adherents suggested that the Scythians, Cimmerians and Goths were representatives of these lost tribes, and progenitors of the later invaders of Britain.[31][32]:26–27 John Wilson would argue for the inclusion of all Western European Gothic peoples among the descendants of the Israelites, but under the later influence of Edward Hine the movement would come to view only the peoples of the British Isles as having this ancestry.

Bede (died 735) had linked the Picts to the Scythians, but British Israelists suggested that he had confused the two tribes of Scotland, and that it was the Scotti (Scots) who were one with the Scoloti (Scyths) of Herodotus.[40] They drew particular support from the derivation of the Scots from the Scythians found in the 1320 Declaration of Arbroath,[24]:262 reflecting a tradition related in the 9th-century Historia Brittonum that the Scots descended from the union of a Scythian exile with Scota, daughter of a Pharaoh, a tale found in some form in several other early-14th-century historical and poetic sources.[41] The Declaration begins:

"Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still live today."[42]

British-Israel Associations cite the Declaration as evidence for the link between the Scots and the Scythians, and hence the Lost Tribes,[43] as had been proposed by the early British Israelist etymologists.[24]:285–296

Other Celtic invaders would be given an analogous descent. In the Welsh (Cymry) the British Israelists would see a direct connection through the Cimbri to the Cimmerians, the Gimirri of Assyrian annals,[44]:57 a name sometimes also given by the ancient Babylonians to the Scythians and Saka.[45] Perceived similarity between this and the name by which the Assyrian annals referred to Israel, Beth Khumbree, would lead the British Israelists to claim that the Welsh too were members of the Lost Tribes.[44]:57

According to the Anglo-Israelists, these claimed connections would make the British the literal descendants of the Lost Tribes, and thus inheritors of the promises made to the Israelites in the Old Testament.[46]

Some adherents further claim that the British Royal Family is directly descended from the line of King David. Citing the Book of Jeremiah, they claim that the daughters of Zedekiah fled to Egypt, then 'the isles' in the sea, which they interpret as Ireland. The descendants of these princesses are said to have crossed to England where they became ancestors of the monarchs.[47] The Stone of Scone, used in coronations of Scottish, English and British monarchs for centuries, is claimed to be none other than the pillow stone used by biblical patriarch, Jacob.[1]

Britain and the United States are the inheritors of Jacob’s birthright

A commonly found British-Israel doctrine is that the Tribe of Ephraim and the Tribe of Manasseh can be identified as modern day Britain and the United States of America.[48][49][50] British-Israel adherents cite numerous theological, semiotics, archaeological, and ethnological resources as proofs.[citation needed]

Part of the foundation of the British-Israel doctrine is the theological claim that particular blessings were bestowed upon three of the tribes of Israel,[51][52][50][24]:317 in that the tribe of Judah was to be the 'chief ruler' e.g. King David, and that Ephraim was to receive the birthright (See Jacob and Esau). Adherents believe that these blessings have continued down through the ages to modern times, with the British Monarchy identified as the continued blessing upon Judah, and both Britain (Ephraim) and the USA (Manasseh) as recipients of the national birthright blessing. They cite passages such as 1 Chron 5:1-2 and Gen 48:19-20 as supporting this.

Relation to Christian Identity
Early British Israelites such as Edward Hine and John Wilson were philo-semites.[53][32]:33 British Israelism itself had several Jewish members and it received support from rabbis throughout the 19th century. Within British politics, the movement supported Benjamin Disraeli, who was descended from Sephardi Jews,[32]:13–19[54] while they also favoured Theodor Herzl in his advocacy of Zionism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism
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George Bush Snr was a CIA chief. His nickname in the skull and bones society was 'magog'. One of his ancestors wrote a book calling for the relocation of jews to israel:

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George Bush (12 June 1796, Norwich, Vermont – 19 September 1859, Rochester, New York) was an American biblical scholar, pastor, abolitionist, academic and advocate for the restoration of the Jews to the Holy Land. He is distantly related to the Bush political family.

Bush graduated from Dartmouth College in 1818, and then studied theology at Princeton University, where he was a tutor 1823–1824. He was ordained in the Presbyterian ministry, spent four years as a Christian missionary in Indiana, and in 1831 became professor of Hebrew and oriental literature at New York University.

In 1844 Bush published a book entitled The Valley of Vision; or, The Dry Bones of Israel Revived. In it he denounced “the thralldom and oppression which has so long ground them (the Jews) to the dust,” and called for “elevating” the Jews “to a rank of honorable repute among the nations of the earth” by restoring the Jews to the land of Israel where the bulk would be converted to Christianity.[4] This, according to Bush, would benefit not only the Jews, but all of mankind, forming a “link of communication” between humanity and God. “It will blaze in notoriety....It will flash a splendid demonstration upon all kindreds and tongues of the truth.”[5]
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I think it may come a time when the elites are going to burn "the Jews" in another fake revolution similar to what we see now with Trump, where a Hitler type character will be claiming to "drain the swamp" of "Jewish influence". I'm pretty damn sure the elites are and have been setting up this scenario.
This could be used in politirics, making claims to "drain the swamp", but it won't ever happen...
Politicians that become a thread to the elite of Ashkenazi "Jews" die quite suddenly.
F.e. JFK, Pim Fortuyn (Netherlands), Jorg Haider (Austria) or Gaddafi (Libya).


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Jews run Hollywood.

But Hollywood answers to the CIA and the MIC, and they have to play ball and take orders.

So while they may run the day to day operations and money side of it, they do have to answer to higher powers which are military intelligence and their psychological operations division.
Hollywood was set-up long before the CIA, to spread (amongst others) war propaganda, ever since the 1940s most Germans have been depicted as fascists in movies...
That the CIA subsequently began to funnel money (which the Pentagon had been doing for decades) to the Jew-controlled Hollywood doesn’t mean that the CIA has ever controlled the movies, but it shows that the same evil group that controls Hollywood also dominates the terrorist intelligence agencies.

After WW II, the terrorist CIA was started as a continuation of OSS. The first director of the CIA was Allen Dulles.
In 1933, Allen and his brother John Foster Dulles travelled to Germany to support Adolf Hitler. At that time they were working for the Standard Oil of John D. Rockefeller that became the main supplier of oil to Nazi Germany. The Dulles law firm also represented Hitler backer Fritz Thyssen and IG Farben.
Rockefeller also financed the eugenics experiments of Joseph Mengele, who got notorious for his experiments in the privately owned Auschwitz. The Auschwitz concentration camp was owned by IG Farben in which Ford and Rockefeller had a stake.
Prescott Bush (for the UBC bank) and the Dutch Royal family (BHS bank in the Netherlands) participated with Royal Dutch Shell, Rockefeller and Rothschild in financing the German Nazis (and laundering the money): http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/link...ckefeller.html

John D. Rockefeller claimed to be not only a Jew, but a direct descendent of King David (Davison)...
The brothers Dulles were distant cousins of Nelson and David Rockefeller.


I’ve looked for a good story on racial, cultural stereotypes.
The “best” I’ve found is the following site (I tried to find a more concise story): http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...nalStereotypes

Following are some important stereotypes that we’ve been brainwashed with.

All Germans are Nazis
German characters in the movies often display overtly Nazi-like traits like goose-stepping or greeting their leader with a Roman salute.
They also speak and act in a strictly authoritarian manner: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...ermansAreNazis


The mob is controlled by Italians
A tight-knit community of Italian "wiseguys" (especially the Sicilians), completely control organised crime - Cosa Nostra, mafia, mob - not only in Italy, but even all the way in the USA. Italians aren’t portrayed nearly as negative as Germans (sometimes they are shown as elegant and great lovers).
When they’re in the mafia, they have an honorary code omertà, and mostly refrain from crimes and murder without any reason: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheMafia


Russian fascists
Russians in the movies are often portrayed with a character similar to German Nazis, often former KGB men or military from the Red Army.
They are more often stereotyped as criminals than Italians, and often more ruthless and vicious, without any code of honour: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheMafiya


Arab terrorists
In the 21th century, the most common terrorist in the movies is the Middle Eastern Arab.
Arabs carry out guerrilla and terrorist attacks against innocent people, because they are extremist Muslims: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...ternTerrorists


Jews aren’t portrayed negatively to prevent anti-Semitism
The Greedy Jew is a famous stereotype, but not in the movies.
Because of the stereotypes on WW II (which was financed by Ashkenazi “Jews”...) it is punishable by law (and the ADL) to negatively portray Jews. This is not restricted to the movies...
These days the most ugly of stereotypes are applied to Arabs: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GreedyJew

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This could be used in politirics, making claims to "drain the swamp", but it won't ever happen...
It already has happened. Remember Nazi Germany ? Hitler's whole campaign was to "drain the swamp" of Jewish influence, and they carried out severe repressive measure against the Jews. Meanwhile they had some Rothschilds under "house arrest" in a luxuory hotel, but many Jews obviously ended up in concentration camps, people of all walks of life.


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Hollywood was set-up long before the CIA, to spread (amongst others) war propaganda, ever since the 1940s most Germans have been depicted as fascists in movies...
well yeah, but there were intelligence networks before the CIA. Queen Elizabeth I back in the 1600's had intelligence networks with her agent John Dee. The intelligence networks were headed by people involved in the occult. The occult specialized in mind control techniques, and this is where we have the emergence of Hollywood.

speaking of some of the first Hollywood propaganda was "Birth of a Nation" in 1915 where the KKK was glorified and blacks were portrayed as savages who want to rape white women.


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That the CIA subsequently began to funnel money (which the Pentagon had been doing for decades) to the Jew-controlled Hollywood doesn’t mean that the CIA has ever controlled the movies, but it shows that the same evil group that controls Hollywood also dominates the terrorist intelligence agencies.
I think you are being a little naïve here. I'm not saying they control every single movie Hollywood puts out, but they control the major narratives, they have power and say to lean on Hollywood and make them tow the line.

Much has been made of Hollywood and feminism, but is this coming from Hollywood producers, or is it the CIA which was behind people like Gloria Steinham.

Do you actually think that the government and intelligence networks would allow perhaps the most powerful propaganda tool to be fully in control of private individuals, who often had far different ideological views ? Hollywood was taken over and blackmailed in the early 50's. They were investigated and completely coopted after the Hollywood blacklists.

in the early 1950's Luigi Luraschi who was the head of Paramount domestic and foreign CENSORSHIP , WORKED FOR THE CIA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Luraschi

the CIA forced Hollywood to put in "well dressed negroes" into the background of their movies in order to counter Soviet propaganda of poor race relations in America.

the CIA bought the rights to George Orwells "Animal farm" and made sure it was portrayed as "anti-communist" and even re wrote the ending.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/18/bo...h-culture.html

these are just 2 examples, there are many more.

You are being very naïve if you don't think the CIA controls Hollywood.



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Following are some important stereotypes that we’ve been brainwashed with.
No I think the most important stereotypes that we've been brainwashed with are the negative stereotypes that Hollywood pushed about Blacks and Hispanics, about them being criminals and savages, also the native Indians too.

You have a whole genre of film "westerns" depicting them as savages and evil and needing to be shot up by heroic cowboys.

I've already mentioned birth of a Nation.

Also people should know about Disney and their racist stereotypes they portrayed for a very long time.

These stereotypes about minorities have largely been corrected but it was mainstream for a very long time, and its very likely these were directives handed out to Hollywood by higher authorities like the intelligence networks which actually CONTROL culture.

Currently much of the narrative by Hollywood is very anit-muslim and Pro American "support the troops" etc.

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It already has happened. Remember Nazi Germany ? Hitler's whole campaign was to "drain the swamp" of Jewish influence, and they carried out severe repressive measure against the Jews. Meanwhile they had some Rothschilds under "house arrest" in a luxuory hotel, but many Jews obviously ended up in concentration camps, people of all walks of life.
they killed some common folk. They did not stop the elite bloodlines

In fact their actions benefitted the plans of the elites who wanted to create a zionist state

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well yeah, but there were intelligence networks before the CIA. Queen Elizabeth I back in the 1600's had intelligence networks with her agent John Dee. The intelligence networks were headed by people involved in the occult. The occult specialized in mind control techniques, and this is where we have the emergence of Hollywood.
they were freemasonic networks of bloodline families

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speaking of some of the first Hollywood propaganda was "Birth of a Nation" in 1915 where the KKK was glorified and blacks were portrayed as savages who want to rape white women.

I think you are being a little naïve here. I'm not saying they control every single movie Hollywood puts out, but they control the major narratives, they have power and say to lean on Hollywood and make them tow the line.

Much has been made of Hollywood and feminism, but is this coming from Hollywood producers, or is it the CIA which was behind people like Gloria Steinham.
The CIA and the people who run hollywood are the same bloodlines

David Cohen (intelligence)
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David Cohen was the Deputy Commissioner of Intelligence for the New York City Police Department. He was the first to be appointed to this position, created by the city government in response to the September 11 attacks. He used to be Deputy Director for Operations (DDO) in the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). He worked briefly in the private sector following his career in the CIA, doing global risk assessment for the American International Group. He retired from the New York City Police Department in December 2013.Former CBS correspondent John Miller succeeded him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cohen_(intelligence)

Meet the Jewish, Former CIA Officer Running for Congress in Michigan
By Aaron Magid on Thursday, July 20, 2017 · Leave a Comment
WASHINGTON – Serving in the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Pentagon, Elissa Slotkin was deployed multiple times to Iraq after the 2003 U.S. invasion. During her third tour, she met her husband Colonel David Moore of the U.S. Army.
http://jewishinsider.com/12354/meet-...ress-michigan/

William Anthony Kirsopp Lake (born April 2, 1939) is the Executive Director of the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF), author, academic, and former American diplomat, Foreign Service Officer, and political advisor. He has been a foreign policy advisor to many Democratic U.S. presidents and presidential candidates, and served as National Security Advisor under U.S. President Bill Clinton from 1993 to 1997. Lake is credited as being one of the individuals who developed the policy that led to the resolution of the Bosnian War.[1] He also held the chair of Distinguished Professor in the Practice of Diplomacy at the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University, in Washington, D.C.[2]
Following Clinton's 1996 re-election, he nominated Lake to become the Director of Central Intelligence,[10] but his nomination was withdrawn due to Republican opposition.[citation needed] It has also been reported that the failure of his nomination was related to his decision to withdraw support at the last minute for an Iraqi coup that might have removed Saddam Hussein without U.S. intervention.
Lake was a foreign policy adviser for Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign, having endorsed him over Senator Hillary Clinton, whom he had worked alongside during the Clinton administration.[13][14] Lake was considered a potential Secretary of State until Senator Clinton was named to the position.
He ultimately converted to Judaism in 2005, before marrying Julie T. Katzman, currently the Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of the Inter-American Development Bank. He credits Katzman's religious faith as the impetus responsible for his decision to investigate his attraction to Judaism more fully, and began studying with former Navy Chaplain Rabbi Arnold Resnicoff (who was serving with him on the Board of Trustees of the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs) for a full year before his conversion. Later, Resnicoff officiated at his marriage to Katzman.[3]
However, Lake jokes that he was Jewish in the eyes of others well before his formal conversion. First, in 1997, when news broke that Secretary of State Madeleine Albright had discovered that she had Jewish ancestors, and a story about other Jews in the Administration mistakenly reported that Clinton's "entire national security team was Jewish." Based on that news story, Lake recounts, his name was added to the list used by the White House Liaison to the Jewish community, and Lake began to receive invitations to special events, such as the White House Hanukkah Party—and he says he was delighted to accept those invitations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Lake

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Do you actually think that the government and intelligence networks would allow perhaps the most powerful propaganda tool to be fully in control of private individuals, who often had far different ideological views ? Hollywood was taken over and blackmailed in the early 50's. They were investigated and completely coopted after the Hollywood blacklists.

in the early 1950's Luigi Luraschi who was the head of Paramount domestic and foreign CENSORSHIP , WORKED FOR THE CIA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Luraschi

the CIA forced Hollywood to put in "well dressed negroes" into the background of their movies in order to counter Soviet propaganda of poor race relations in America.

the CIA bought the rights to George Orwells "Animal farm" and made sure it was portrayed as "anti-communist" and even re wrote the ending.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/18/bo...h-culture.html

these are just 2 examples, there are many more.

You are being very naïve if you don't think the CIA controls Hollywood.
The CIA is simply the military wing of the council on foreign relations. It is populated by bloodline people

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No I think the most important stereotypes that we've been brainwashed with are the negative stereotypes that Hollywood pushed about Blacks and Hispanics, about them being criminals and savages, also the native Indians too.

You have a whole genre of film "westerns" depicting them as savages and evil and needing to be shot up by heroic cowboys.

I've already mentioned birth of a Nation.

Also people should know about Disney and their racist stereotypes they portrayed for a very long time.

These stereotypes about minorities have largely been corrected but it was mainstream for a very long time, and its very likely these were directives handed out to Hollywood by higher authorities like the intelligence networks which actually CONTROL culture.

Currently much of the narrative by Hollywood is very anit-muslim and Pro American "support the troops" etc.
a recurring theme in hollywood is JEWISH VICTIMHOOD

hollywood now pushes PROGRESSIVE agendas aimed at causing tensions within society; this will lead to chaos from which the bloodlines can impose more draconian laws
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And you don't think the CIA controls Hollywood ?

Tell me what happened to the Harvey Weinstein and Michael Moore produced anti-Trump film that was supposed to come out ?

what happened to that one ?

Oh yeah, Hollywood is the all powerful one right ?

Hollywood does what the CIA tells them to. End of story.

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And you don't think the CIA controls Hollywood ?

Tell me what happened to the Harvey Weinstein and Michael Moore produced anti-Trump film that was supposed to come out ?

what happened to that one ?

Oh yeah, Hollywood is the all powerful one right ?

Hollywood does what the CIA tells them to. End of story.
as always you don't listen to what people are telling you

jewish hollywood and the CIA are not seperate. They and mossad and british intelligence are all part of the same network that is ultimately run by elite bloodline families
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Hollywood 'Fight Club' producer was Israeli spy with nuclear script
Published time: 26 Nov, 2013 15:17
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Arnon Milchan, renowned producer of such Hollywood hits as "Pretty Woman," "Fight Club" and "LA Confidential", has come forth with perhaps his greatest story of all: he was an Israeli spy who helped boost the country’s nuclear program in the 70s and 80s.

In an in depth interview broadcast on Monday with Israel's Channel 2 flagship investigative program ‘Uvda’ (Fact), the 68-year-old producer discussed his involvement in clandestine arms deals and efforts to buy technologies Israel allegedly needed to make nuclear weapons.

The expose followed Milchan's career from the late '1960s and early '1970s, when he was a young and successful businessman in the United States who had a close relationship with current Israeli President Shimon Peres.
Peres, who at the time was helping set up the Negev Nuclear Research Center, tasked Milchan with acquiring equipment and information necessary to get the project off the ground.

“Do you know what it was like to be a 20-something guy whose country decided to let him be James Bond? Wow! The action! That was exciting,” the Israeli daily Haaretz cited Milchan as saying. He ran a thriving fertilizer company in Israel before finding success in Hollywood.

The report also outlined how Milchan set up bank accounts and companies in order to facilitate the transfer of materials and equipment through Lakam, Israel’s secretive Bureau of Scientific Relations. At the height of his operations, Milchan was operating 30 firms in 17 different countries.
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Harvey Weinstein hired Mossad agents in 2016 to destroy Rose McGowan
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The New Yorker has recently spilled the Hollywood beans by reporting that the much-debated Weinstein hired Mossad agents to continue his sexual adventures. It states:

“According to dozens of pages of documents, and seven people directly involved in the effort, the firms that Weinstein hired included Kroll, which is one of the world’s largest corporate-intelligence companies, and Black Cube, an enterprise run largely by former officers of Mossad and other Israeli intelligence agencies.

“Black Cube, which has branches in Tel Aviv, London, and Paris, offers its clients the skills of operatives ‘highly experienced and trained in Israel’s elite military and governmental intelligence units…’

“Two private investigators from Black Cube, using false identities, met with the actress Rose McGowan, who eventually publicly accused Weinstein of rape, to extract information from her. One of the investigators pretended to be a women’s-rights advocate and secretly recorded at least four meetings with McGowan
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@Vancity eagle: If by chance you have the time, you could read in this thread about the connection between Hollywood, the Pentagon and the CIA.
Some of the things you claim, that I am missing, I've already posted about in this thread...

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I think you are being a little naïve here. I'm not saying they control every single movie Hollywood puts out, but they control the major narratives, they have power and say to lean on Hollywood and make them tow the line.
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You are being very naïve if you don't think the CIA controls Hollywood.
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It already has happened. Remember Nazi Germany ? Hitler's whole campaign was to "drain the swamp" of Jewish influence, and they carried out severe repressive measure against the Jews.
I wouldn’t call you naive, but misinformed: WW II was basically one major false flag.
Adolf Hitler was controlled, financed and helped to fake his death and escape to South America by the Zionists: https://forum.davidicke.com/showthre...post1062960737

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Do you actually think that the government and intelligence networks would allow perhaps the most powerful propaganda tool to be fully in control of private individuals, who often had far different ideological views ? Hollywood was taken over and blackmailed in the early 50's. They were investigated and completely coopted after the Hollywood blacklists.
It's the other way around.
Because Hollywood is privately controlled it has much more freedom than a government agency (like the CIA). In the 1980s, under President Reagan, legislation was passed to make sure that CIA assets wouldn't be prohibited from trafficking drugs...


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No I think the most important stereotypes that we've been brainwashed with are the negative stereotypes that Hollywood pushed about Blacks and Hispanics, about them being criminals and savages, also the native Indians too.

You have a whole genre of film "westerns" depicting them as savages and evil and needing to be shot up by heroic cowboys.
You're right, I tried to find one concise story that puts it all together (but only succeeded in part). In my last post a lot of stereotypes weren't included.
I tried to describe current stereotypes. The stereotypes that you're presenting are more of the "old" propaganda.


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Also people should know about Disney and their racist stereotypes they portrayed for a very long time.

These stereotypes about minorities have largely been corrected but it was mainstream for a very long time, and its very likely these were directives handed out to Hollywood by higher authorities like the intelligence networks which actually CONTROL culture.
You're naive to think that "stereotypes about minorities have largely been corrected"...
Hollywood propaganda has been on the rise since 9/11, but the stereotypes have been slightly updated.
The following post is about Disney stereotypes: https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...2&postcount=40

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The CIA and the people who run hollywood are the same bloodlines
there may be some level of crossover, but for the most part I don't think so.

Otherwise you wouldn't have had the Hollywood blacklists in the 1950's. You wouldn't have had the intense investigations and blackmail taking place against Hollywood in that time era.

You also wouldn't need to have CIA operatives spying on Hollywood, nor would you have their agents censoring and manipulating Hollywood material for their agendas.

Hollywood and the CIA are two separate entities. But Hollywood answers to the CIA.


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The CIA is simply the military wing of the council on foreign relations. It is populated by bloodline people
the rogue elements of the CIA and private intelligence networks which actually carry out black operations are far more aligned with the Council for National Policy than the CFR.


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a recurring theme in hollywood is JEWISH VICTIMHOOD

hollywood now pushes PROGRESSIVE agendas aimed at causing tensions within society

this will lead to chaos from which the bloodlines can impose more draconian laws
"Jewish victimhood" helps the Zionist agenda/ISRAEL. Not only does the CIA control Hollywood but the Mossad has its operatives all over Hollywood as well.

Hollywood is basically helping military intelligence carry out their psychological operations on society. Other media like the news and social media do this as well.

Both "progressive" and "conservative" agendas create tension amongst society.

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there may be some level of crossover, but for the most part I don't think so.

Otherwise you wouldn't have had the Hollywood blacklists in the 1950's. You wouldn't have had the intense investigations and blackmail taking place against Hollywood in that time era.

You also wouldn't need to have CIA operatives spying on Hollywood, nor would you have their agents censoring and manipulating Hollywood material for their agendas.

Hollywood and the CIA are two separate entities. But Hollywood answers to the CIA.
you can't have it both ways

Mccarthy was working to uncover a 'communist plot' with the help of the kennedy brothers. The 'communists' were the CFR globalists and the CIA was full of their bloodline people

thats why both kennedys were executed

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the rogue elements of the CIA and private intelligence networks which actually carry out black operations are far more aligned with the Council for National Policy than the CFR.
The CFR is trying to create a world government and is full of trans-national corporations

Any people in the CIA who wanted to preserve the nation of the US would want to expose the CFR

Any people in the CIA who were trying to subvert the US would therefore be the 'rogue elements'. Rogue elements don't seek to preserve a country, they seek to betray it, hence 'rogue'

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"Jewish victimhood" helps the Zionist agenda/ISRAEL. Not only does the CIA control Hollywood but the Mossad has its operatives all over Hollywood as well.

Hollywood is basically helping military intelligence carry out their psychological operations on society. Other media like the news and social media do this as well.
The CIA uses front companies because it allows them plausible deniability. Hollywood pretends to be a private enterprise but really it is controlled by the CFR and its intelligence agencies

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Both "progressive" and "conservative" agendas create tension amongst society.
But 'conservatism' is by definition about keeping things as they are

'progressivism' is by definition implying a progress to somewhere

So there are those who IMPOSE their change on society eg mass immigration and there are those who resist it

so if you are looking for which side is the one that starts the cycle then it is the one trying to impose something new
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In Disney movies often sorcerers and witches appear. In “The Sorcerer’s Apprentice”, the sorcerer is named “Yen Sid”, which is “Disney” spelled backwards.
Here are some satanic images in cartoons, including some Disney: https://www.therichest.com/world-ent...rite-cartoons/
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The Duck Tales - a sign in the back with the phrase: ''ASK ABOUT ILLUMINATI''.
The link gave a 404 and the image was deleted (found "new" link that's active)...
Also note the boner on the skeleton on the left.
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In tickets bought per US adult 2016 was the worst year for movies since before the 1920s and 2016 also had the fewest total ticket sales in 2 decades.
Ten percent of monthly filmgoers buy half of all movie tickets. Most people that watch movies in the cinema are young people (between 18 and 39). The most important demographic group for Hollywood, 18-to-24-year-olds, is going less and less to the cinema.

In 1980, Hollywood spent less than 20 cents on advertising for every $1 it earned at the box office. Now it spends 60 cents to earn a buck. Movie makers are spending an enormous amount of advertising money to create “blockbusters”.
In 1996, none of the 10 biggest films were sequels or superhero movies. In 2016, out of the 371 movies released, 4 superhero films — Captain America: Civil War; Deadpool; Batman vs. Superman; X-Men: Apocalypse — accounted for 29% of the total box office.

Hollywood has been shoving sequels down our throats for more than a decade. In 2011, the 7 top films were all sequels, including Fast 5 and Harry Potter.
Both in 2015 and 2016, 6 of the top 10 and 11 of the top 20 films were sequels. In 2015, the 8 biggest opening weekends were all sequels, including Furious 7 and the latest Star Wars.
It appears that even in the 21th century, people can get enough of seeing the same story retold over and over again.

That Hollywood is less influential in brainwashing us, doesn’t mean that people are “waking up” though. arguably the “new” mind control techniques are even more successful than the movies…
Our attention is now pouring into mobile devices, using Netflix, premium cable apps, YouTube, Facebook, and Snapchat: https://www.theatlantic.com/business...roblem/486209/
(archived here: http://archive.is/nof5W)


In 2017, theatrical revenues in the US dropped another 2%, ending the year a little over $11 billion, while attendance went down another 4% to 5%. By inflating prices, the worldwide box office will likely hit new heights and could come close to a record breaking $40 billion.

At the beginning of 2017, the results looked even more devastating.
Beginning in September, when “It” (another remake) made $327.5 million in the US, theatres began to draw more visitors.

Indie favourites like “Lady Bird” and “Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri” helped to bring people to the theatres, while “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” and “Coco” became box office smashes.
Other sequels - “Transformers: The Last Knight” and “Alien: Covenant” - performed less than expected.

Could Hollywood be trying to attract more people by using “adverse publicity”?!?
Several big moguls and movie stars have been accused of sexual harassment generating a huge amount of “publicity”: https://variety.com/2017/film/news/h...ix-1202647206/
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jimmy sorry to bumb into your thread, but well ive read a few posts of you and something popped up. i used to know someone who worked for nationale nederlanden back in wo2, he didnt tell me much, but the least thing he could say was that he saw some papers about money trafficking, royals, gladiolen, etc in combo with england.
maybe its of good use for you even just as an idea.

als je ooit wat nederlands support wilt, kijk eens op quofataferunt.com we zijn wel wat gewend
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Issac Kappy naming names on periscope......This is really blowing up.

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1BdGYoVNlLoxX
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Issac Kappy naming names on periscope......This is really blowing up.
If I understand correctly, you’ve concluded (like me) that there is no reason to believe that this Kappy chappy is reliable: https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...20&postcount=4
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Hollywood and NASA

The Hollywood movie industry has been working with the Pentagon and CIA since its inception, but earlier this month I found out that NASA is even more closely affiliated with the NASA disinformation program.


The first Administrator of National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) from 1958 to 1961 was Thomas Keith Glennan.
Glennan had already worked for the movies (for real) before turning his attention to the “hydrogen bomb” and “rocket science”.

After his graduation in 1927 until 1947 he worked in the film industry in the US and Britain, to become operations manager for Paramount and studio manager for Samuel Goldwyn.
In 1950, at President Harry S. Truman's request, Glennan became one of 5 commissioners of the Atomic Energy Commission for 2 years. The most significant hoax the commission staged was the hydrogen bomb.

One of Glennan’s first NASA recruits was German Nazi “rocket engineer” Wernher von Braun: https://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/12/o...ce-agency.html

For more information on Glennan’s career in the movies:
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During his five and a half years at Paramount Glennan provided the logistics necessary to allow the studio's creative teams to stage their productions. He worked with such Hollywood notables as Cecil B. DeMille.
Glennan was also credited with important innovations in the film industry during his time at Paramount, including the first full-fledged engineering department in the business and the first recognized industrial relations department.
http://www.smashwords.com/extreader/...s-nasa-sp-4105


Hermann Oberth was born on June 25, 1894 in Transylvania (then part of the Austro-Hungarian empire now part of Romania). He was born to German speaking parents and became a German.
At an early age, Oberth became a huge fan of spaceflight science fiction by authors like Jules Verne. Just like Wernher von Braun and Robert Goddard.

Oberth learned of the 1919 book by Robert Goddard "A Method Of Reaching Extreme Altitudes". In 1922, Oberth wrote to Goddard and suggested an international project to develop liquid-fuelled rockets.
In 1923, Oberth published his book "Die Rakete Zu Den Planetenraumen" (The Rocket Into Planetary Space).
In 1927, Oberth joined the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt (Society for Space Travel) to become its president. Members of the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt included: Willy Ley, Johannes Winkler, Max Valier, Rudolf Nebel, Kurt Hainisch, Walter Hohmannn, Eugene Sanger , Klaus Riedel, Rolf Engel, and the young Wernher von Braun.

In 1928, Oberth became technical advisor to director Fritz Lang, who was filming the movie "Frau Im Mond" (Woman in the moon). On the set Oberth was helped by Ley, Valier, Nebel, Riedel and the young and eager science fiction fan Wernher von Braun.
Oberth (with the help of Von Braun) constructed and tested a small rocket engine on 23 July 1930. See members of the Verein fur Raumschiffahrt with the rocket in Berlin, 1930. From left to right: Rudolf Nebel, Franz Ritter, unknown, Kurt Heinisch, unknown, Hermann Oberth, unknown, Klaus Riedel, Wernher von Braun, unknown.


Oberth worked at Peenemunde from 1941 to 1943.
After World War II, Oberth came to the US to continue to continue his “rocket science” work with Wernher von Braun at the Army Ballistic Missile Agency: http://waterocket.explorer.free.fr/herman_oberth.htm
(archived here: http://archive.is/NBvs)

Fritz Lang is best known for his futuristic masterpiece Metropolis (1926) that nearly bankrupted Germany’s state-financed studio, Ufa.
Lang worked closely with Germany’s leading rocketry science fiction expert, Hermann Oberth, and they visually replicated the rocket described in Oberth’s book, "Die Rakete Zu Den Planetenraumen".
Forty years later the Apollo 11 moon landing closely followed Lang’s and Oberth’s “film script”.

The film featured a multiple-stage booster system to attain escape velocity; a fin stabilisation design for the rocket’s base; before the launch, a media frenzy descends upon the area; and a count down to zero for launch.
The movie shows a crew floating in zero gravity in the space ship.
After the rocket lands on the moon, the crew encounters lower gravity.

As part of the film’s publicity, Oberth and Wernher von Braun tried to launch an actual rocket for the film’s premiere. This stunt failed.
Oberth also advised for the American movie of the moon landing “Destination Moon” (1950)”: http://sensesofcinema.com/2004/cteq/woman_in_the_moon/
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Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun (1912 – 1977) was a German-born science fiction writer. His father, Magnus Freiherr von Braun served as Minister of Agriculture. His mother, Emmy von Quistorp traced her ancestry to medieval European royalty and was a descendant of Philip III of France, Valdemar I of Denmark, Robert III of Scotland, and Edward III of England. He descended from Royal blood.
In 1947, the 34-year-old Von Braun married his 18-year-old maternal first cousin, Maria Luise von Quistorp (born in 1928). Von Braun had been “wooing” the underage Maria for years

Von Braun had been involved in the development of rocket technology in Germany with Oberth, and helped to develop the V-2 rocket. Before 1939, German “scientists” contacted American physicist Robert H. Goddard with technical questions. Goddard helped them to develop the A-4 rocket that would later become known as the V-2.
Hitler personally made Von Braun a professor because he had showed him a colour movie with an A-4 taking off on 7 July 1943; an exceptional promotion for an engineer of only 31 years.

After the “suicide” of Adolf Hitler was announced, Von Braun immediately joined the Allied forces, at the beginning of May 1945. He and his group that developed missile technology were part of the about 1,600 German “scientists” that were recruited by the US in Operation Paperclip.
Between 1952 and 1956, Von Braun led the Army's rocket development team that developed the Redstone rocket for nuclear ballistic missiles. Van Braun supposedly developed the rockets that launched the US’s first space satellite Explorer 1.
Wernher von Braun and his group were recruited by NASA in 1958.

In 1952, Von Braun first published his science fiction story on a manned space station in a series of articles titled "Man Will Conquer Space Soon!". This built on the 1929 science fiction story by Herman Potocnik in his book “The Problem of Space Travel – The Rocket Motor”.
The 1968 movie “2001: a space odyssey“ would draw heavily on this story.

Von Braun also made science fiction television films with Walt Disney and the Disney studios in the 1950s. The initial broadcast about space exploration “Man in Space” had 40 million viewers.
See Wernher von Braun, Willi Ley, Walt Disney and Dr. E. Heinz Haber (another Nazi Rocket "scientist" brought to the US in Operation Paperclip).


In staging Apollo, Von Braun worked closely with former Peenemünde teammate, Kurt H. Debus, the first director of the Kennedy Space Center. His dream to make “The first men in the moon” story believed by the world became a reality in July 1969.
Von Braun retired from NASA on 26 May 1972: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

In 1930, von Braun attended the Technische Hochschule Berlin, where he joined the Spaceflight Society and assisted Willy Ley in his liquid-fuelled rocket motor tests with Hermann Oberth.
German immigrant Willi Ley was America’s primary source on the Vril Society and the flying saucer technology of Nazi Germany. Ley had been a Vril-Thule member.

Starting in 1931, Willi Ley tutored Wernher von Braun on rocket science. In 1939, Wernher von Braun became a high ranking Nazi SS Officer. He was head of the team that designed the German V-2 rockets.
In 1945, through “Operation Paperclip” Von Braun was brought to the US where he became a founder of the US disinformation campaign NASA.
https://www.resistance2010.com/m/blo...gPost%3A331860
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In 2013, banker’s son Frederick Ira Ordway III (1927-2014) was awarded the Arthur C. Clarke Lifetime Achievement Award.
Ordway had been a huge fan of science fiction on space travel since he since he was 10. In 1941, Ordway (13) became a member of the American Rocket Society.
In 1950, Ordway first met science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke, who helped him to become a fellow of the British Interplanetary Society. They became long-time friends.
Ordway became a top official at NASA and worked closely with Wernher von Braun, including on the Apollo program.

In 1965, Ordway met Clarke who was working with movie director Stanley Kubrick on a science fiction movie based on his story “The Sentinel”. Ordway became the “scientific and technical advisor” to the film that became “2001: A Space Odyssey” (1968): http://www.clarkefoundation.org/2013...-i-ordway-iii/

Ordway wasn’t only working on the movie with NASA officials, but also with major corporations like General Electric, Bell Telephone Laboratories and IBM.

NASA’s Associate Administrator for Manned Space Flight, George Mueller, nicknamed the film’s production facilities “NASA East”.
See from left to right NASA officials touring MGM Borehamwood during pre-production of “2001: A Space Odyssey”: Fred Ordway, Deke Slayton (astronaut), Arthur C. Clarke, anonymous NASA assistant, Stanley Kubrick, and George C. Mueller.


Ordway explained about “rocket scientists”:
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They all read H. G. Wells and Jules Verne. Science fiction got us all started in the early days, I think without exception.
In 1949, Arthur C. Clarke helped to make his friend Von Braun an honorary member of the British Interplanetary Society: http://thetruthseekersguide.blogspot...cy-part-3.html


Also involved in both NASA and “2001: A Space Odyssey” was the German-born Harry Lange (born 1930), Ordway’s partner in their General Astronautics publishing and consultancy company. Lange was specialised in making science fiction drawings.

In 1954, Ordway and Lange helped set up General Astronautics that in 1960 was acquired by NASA.
Lange made illustrations to promote the science fiction projects of Von Braun. Von Braun told him: "Harry, your work makes money".

After “2001: A Space Odyssey”, Lange settled in England to design sets for films, including Kelly's Heroes (1970); Star Wars (1977); The Empire Strikes Back (1980); The Return of the Jedi (1983); Moonraker (1979); and The Meaning of Life (1983): https://www.theguardian.com/film/200...uaries.culture
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