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Old 17-04-2018, 06:40 PM   #141
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To be honest - Take a look around the world - half of Russia's fleet is as old, as is the US and Chinas.

Iran would dream of an aircraft as new as a Tornado ( Rebuilding F5s and calling them Iran super stealth 1 doesn't really count)

India - is a nightmare - poor (long drawn out) buying processes and corruption means its fleet gets older faster than its replaced - Its pretty normal - Some of the military transport planes and helicopters are flown by the grandchildren of the original pilots.

Austerity isn't the forces biggest problem - Gordon Brown messing with build schedules cancelling ships - so each 1 was more expensive and ordering loads of chinooks without funding them meant a massive hole in the budget - Even without austerity defence was knackered - austerity simply inflicted a bit more pain
Yes, but Iran isn't a 'first world' power. Their pilots were still flying old Phantoms not too long ago.

China has the numbers. Russia's air force is numerically superior to the RAF, and they have the SU-57, though not in any real numbers.

I agree about Brown, but the carrier fiasco under Cameron has really made the UK look like mugs. There's a pretty good article on that here from 2013: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/0...rrier_badness/
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Old 17-04-2018, 07:32 PM   #142
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Yes, but Iran isn't a 'first world' power. Their pilots were still flying old Phantoms not too long ago.

China has the numbers. Russia's air force is numerically superior to the RAF, and they have the SU-57, though not in any real numbers.

I agree about Brown, but the carrier fiasco under Cameron has really made the UK look like mugs. There's a pretty good article on that here from 2013: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/0...rrier_badness/
Lewis page is not a reliable source - I could pretty much rebut every claim he makes in that article - just from open source info and an understanding of certain policies and familiarisation with certain things (and none of them secret) Theres things he gets wrong and can only do so deliberately.

He is very popular because he panders to popular opinion and prejudice (You know all officers are upper class twits etc)- He is the Donald trump of defence commentators

(A prime example of this is typhoon - cold war relic pointless was a fighter with no planes to fight so now the RAF is making it a bomber so they can justify buying it. - Now what is completely open source is that the Typhoon was always intended to replace the Jaguar ( a bomber) - therefore for him to claim otherwise means he is lying or not even doing basic research.

The fiasco under Cameron was the swap dont swap - but that had limited impact (in time and money) and thankfully it was rapidly reversed and Cameron was told to listen to the experts not various lobbyists - Of course people like Page who dont like the navy and carriers make it a far bigger deal than it was.

As a small ammendum - one of the reasons it may be harder to convert is because to save money The financial genius Mr Brown ripped up that requirement -

I agree with you about Iran - but I was making the point that old aircraft are common across the globe -
More to the point the Tornado is still a very good aircraft its kept up to date with electronics - as are many legacy aircraft - F15s F16 Su27 Mig 29s - Theres even a fair few Mirage still kicking about.

I think the Germans still have a few Phantoms as well

Were digressing though
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Old 17-04-2018, 08:18 PM   #143
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Lewis page is not a reliable source - I could pretty much rebut every claim he makes in that article - just from open source info and an understanding of certain policies and familiarisation with certain things (and none of them secret) Theres things he gets wrong and can only do so deliberately.

He is very popular because he panders to popular opinion and prejudice (You know all officers are upper class twits etc)- He is the Donald trump of defence commentators

(A prime example of this is typhoon - cold war relic pointless was a fighter with no planes to fight so now the RAF is making it a bomber so they can justify buying it. - Now what is completely open source is that the Typhoon was always intended to replace the Jaguar ( a bomber) - therefore for him to claim otherwise means he is lying or not even doing basic research.

The fiasco under Cameron was the swap dont swap - but that had limited impact (in time and money) and thankfully it was rapidly reversed and Cameron was told to listen to the experts not various lobbyists - Of course people like Page who dont like the navy and carriers make it a far bigger deal than it was.

As a small ammendum - one of the reasons it may be harder to convert is because to save money The financial genius Mr Brown ripped up that requirement -

I agree with you about Iran - but I was making the point that old aircraft are common across the globe -
More to the point the Tornado is still a very good aircraft its kept up to date with electronics - as are many legacy aircraft - F15s F16 Su27 Mig 29s - Theres even a fair few Mirage still kicking about.

I think the Germans still have a few Phantoms as well

Were digressing though
If we had a Donald Trump in charge of defence procurement, we might not be in such a parlous state. You need someone with business savvy for that type of job.
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Old 18-04-2018, 07:51 AM   #144
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Saudi Arabia is holding talks with the United States about sending troops into Syria as part of a wider international coalition, the kingdom's foreign minister has said.

In his comments on Tuesday, Adel al-Jubeir said the deployment offer was "not new", adding that Riyadh had previously proposed the idea to former US President Barack Obama.

"We are in discussion with the US, and have been since the beginning of the Syrian crisis about sending forces into Syria," al-Jubeir told reporters in Riyadh during a press conference alongside Antonio Guterres, the UN chief.

"We made a proposal to the [previous] Obama administration that if the US were to send forces … then Saudi Arabia would consider along with other countries sending forces as part of this contingent."

The kingdom announced its readiness to deploy ground troops in 2016 to fight the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS) in Syria.

While Saudi's air force partook in the aerial campaign aimed at defeating ISIL from the very beginning in 2014, the Gulf kingdom stopped short of a full ground troop deployment.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...193232765.html


The signs that Iran and Saudi Arabia preparing for war
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320950

Pakistan to send troops to Saudi Arabia to train advise
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320809


Maybe look out for more “ISIS insurgents” entering Israel/Jerusalem through Egypt as previously promised...

Did Iran Just Start A War With Israel?
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320715

Jerusalem King Solomon’s Temple Zionism/Freemasonry
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320118

Iran Coup d'etat - Regime Change as planned by Zionists Interests
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320213
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Old 18-04-2018, 08:59 AM   #145
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Saudi Arabia is holding talks with the United States about sending troops into Syria as part of a wider international coalition, the kingdom's foreign minister has said.

In his comments on Tuesday, Adel al-Jubeir said the deployment offer was "not new", adding that Riyadh had previously proposed the idea to former US President Barack Obama.

"We are in discussion with the US, and have been since the beginning of the Syrian crisis about sending forces into Syria," al-Jubeir told reporters in Riyadh during a press conference alongside Antonio Guterres, the UN chief.

"We made a proposal to the [previous] Obama administration that if the US were to send forces … then Saudi Arabia would consider along with other countries sending forces as part of this contingent."

The kingdom announced its readiness to deploy ground troops in 2016 to fight the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS) in Syria.

While Saudi's air force partook in the aerial campaign aimed at defeating ISIL from the very beginning in 2014, the Gulf kingdom stopped short of a full ground troop deployment.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...193232765.html


The signs that Iran and Saudi Arabia preparing for war
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320950

Pakistan to send troops to Saudi Arabia to train advise
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320809


Maybe look out for more “ISIS insurgents” entering Israel/Jerusalem through Egypt as previously promised...

Did Iran Just Start A War With Israel?
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320715

Jerusalem King Solomon’s Temple Zionism/Freemasonry
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320118

Iran Coup d'etat - Regime Change as planned by Zionists Interests
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320213
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Old 18-04-2018, 09:01 AM   #146
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Saudi Arabia supports the actions of the US, UK & France, LOL.
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Old 18-04-2018, 12:53 PM   #147
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well there was a 7km convoy of isis sitting ducks in the desert. bit like a holiday outing. nothing happened tho.
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Old 18-04-2018, 01:35 PM   #148
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Does anybody on this forum take CBS seriously?!?

In an amazing twist, CBS found one “reliable” Syrian witness to talk about the chemical weapons attack and even show the yellow BOMB.

At the time of making the video, Douma was already back under the control of the Syrian (it had been controlled by the “rebels” since 2012). This is stressed as if this would make this charade more convincing: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/syria-i...ck-2018-04-16/
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Old 18-04-2018, 03:41 PM   #149
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The whole crux of the matter - competing stories. Following fisk’s report there is a Guardian article where medics say they are being coerced by the government to deny any chemical attack and also claim that their families are being threatened but they say that convulsive attacks and foaming at the mouth were something they could not cope with and that they think it must have been a nerve agent. I notice how ‘nerve agent’ is the description since Salisbury. Anyway reading the article convinces one that there was a chemical attack and that Fisk was told otherwise by people who had been told to say this. He does write that the doctor who spoke to him in the stricken hospital used the word ‘terrorists’ and explained that all the other medics were being interviewed in Damascus so he is open to an alternative explanation. Obviously the people speaking to the Guardian had to withhold their names to protect their families. I doubt that would save them if what they say about coercion and threats is true - they all face the chop.

We simply cannot know from what we are being told and that just shows the extraordinary power of the media and indeed propaganda or fake news. Ina year’s time it will not matter is the thinking behind this although in a few year’s time it certainly will. The Iraq lie is making life very difficult for some. But the Guardian story does a bit more than suggest that there was a chemical attack. It suggests that Assad is threatening all the people who were rescuing the survivors of the attack AND their families. It suggests that Russia is also involved and trying to hide the evidence. That is what will make people think the missile strike was not only justified but too limited.

If the missile attack worries some then the thought of handing half of Syria to Saudi Arabia certainly will. The problem with letting Israel control this area has much to do with how they control Palestine. They do not have a shining record. But their allies in the Saudi army will be extremely worrying to any Shiites, perhaps Christians and Yazidis too. It is unlikely that there could ever be an end to the war and that explains why the US may be happy to pull their troops out.

So what we are looking at is not only a military attack on a sovereign nation without UN authorisation. Whatever the reason for that it is a corrosive precedent on the international law we managed to create following WW2. And without that where will we be? Russia then has as much right to invade countries on its border as we have to pour Saudi troops into what was Syria. Israel then has a perfect right to annexe the West Bank. China can build military base islands all over the China Sea. Argentina can take the Falklands whenever they want. All you need to show is that the Security Council cannot agree and in your ’opinion’ there is a justification for military action. If there isn’t then you create one because you take action before any investigation is able to prove otherwise.

Theresa May really has no idea what a monster she has unleashed. It was better that Tony Blair lied because that did not have such an impact on the delicate balance maintained by UN backed international law. It was better that David Cameron ‘exceeded’ his authorisation for Libya. But to disregard the Security Council completely and claim legality for action on unproven allegations is the biggest problem the world has faced since the UN was formed. The Security Council has been charged with international peace and security, peacekeeping operations, international sanctions and authorising military action since 17 January 1946. But any of these can be stopped by a member using its veto. 12 times Russia has used its veto on Syria which has annoyed some. 43 times the US has vetoed a resolution on Israel which has annoyed others. Of course there is a problem with vetoes but at the same time this was the compromise thrashed out to provide the world with a council of the major powers. If it is rendered powerless we face chaos. That our senior politicians and their advisors cannot see this is a much bigger worry. It is the only reason we have had a break from world wars.

In that sense it makes no difference whether there was or was not a chemical attack, nor who was behind it. One of the key principles - authorising military action - was instituted despite a veto.

You can see the details of the 12 vetoes here:

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2018/0...syria-un-veto/

(RTE is Irish not Russia Today by the way).

So how do we repair the damage to the world’s infrastructure? Or is it outdated and time to throw some countries off the Security Council?
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Well teresa may's husband's firm has profited rather well after the Syria airstrikes, so what does that tell you?
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Chemical attacks are only justified depending on who is doing the attacks, and i think that is obvious by now.
Shouldn't the US, & UK & France bomb Israhell for their chemical attacks on Palestinians with white phosphorus which does horrific damage to its victims? All we hear about that though is *crickets*. No one ever holds those bastards accountable for anything.
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....But the Guardian story does a bit more than suggest that there was a chemical attack. It suggests that Assad is threatening all the people who were rescuing the survivors of the attack AND their families. It suggests that Russia is also involved and trying to hide the evidence. That is what will make people think the missile strike was not only justified but too limited.....

How many Western "journalists" currently in Syria.

Suggestions on hearsay are not news.

Someone on the Radio 4 news today suggested the opcw inspectors were being prevented from entering the area because they would find evidence implicating the Assad government.

Gouta been under siege for years and it's now a warren of tunnels, strongpoints, basements and sub basements with goodness knows whom or what still lurking there. Booby traps, bombs, arms caches hidden for Al-Qaeda operatives pretending to be civilians till an opportunity presents itself?

And what of the hostages they were holding and carted off to Idlib?

Taken to ensure the compliance/loyalty of the medics and witnesses that remained?

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Old 19-04-2018, 08:10 AM   #153
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bbc is calling out all the reporters, tweeters that don't follow the line as conspricay theorists.
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Old 19-04-2018, 10:34 AM   #154
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Sarah Abdallah is one of the most influential Twitter users commenting on conversations about the conflict in Syria, although little is known about the person behind the account

Sarah Abdallah (@sahouraxo on Twitter) has more than 125,000 followers, among them more than 250 journalists from mainstream media outlets. Her follower count is comparable to BBC journalists who regularly report on Syria, such as BBC Middle East Editor Jeremy Bowen (167,000) and BBC Chief International Correspondent Lyse Doucet (142,000).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-43745629
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This is what our MSM are pushing with their action throughout the Middle East and especially Syria which no MSM will report upon. Barefaced hypocrisy...

The great Russian oil game in Iraqi Kurdistan
https://in.reuters.com/article/us-ro...-idINKBN1HQ1R3


https://www.facebook.com/RTUKnews/vi...zI1OTYyMjk5NA/

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Emails reveal White Helmets tried to lobby ex-Pink Floyd frontman Roger Waters

‘Emails have emerged revealing how the controversial Syrian activist group the White Helmets tried to lobby Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters with Saudi money. The revelations have been published on Max Blumenthal’s project.

In an email from October 2016, Roger Waters is invited to a fundraiser organized by Saudi billionaire Hani Farsi to honor the work of the White helmets. In it, he is also encouraged to watch a documentary about the group.

And it didn't stop there - just days before his recent concert in Barcelona, Waters was contacted by a French journalist working for the White Helmets. The reporter asked Waters for a few moments on stage to deliver a message to the children of Syria.’

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https://www.rt.com/news/424553-pink-...ts-blumenthal/

Just for contrast here is what Rupert Murdoch’s Propaganda news had to say about anyone trying to expose the White Helmets. The same Rupert Murdoch that has vested interests with word leaders and the international network trying to justify a war on Syria and who would benefit from acccess to the theft of Syria’s Oil via an Oil Company called Genie Energy, through Golan Heights a part of Syria, they’re trying to steal and make apart of Israel in the interests of “GREATER ISRAEL” all of which is very desirable for them at the moment, very trustworthy, independent and I think such an opinion is believable which is why it is spread throughout the MSM...

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https://www.facebook.com/JeremyCorby...6373782858872/


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https://www.facebook.com/thefreethou...4725281747728/


https://www.facebook.com/neonnettle/...4803497952488/
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My “friends” in the media have found out that some British politicians are involved with the same big investment funds that are majority shareholders in the military industrial complex.They argue that this could lead to a conflict of interest when Syria is bombed…

Since 2005, Philip May is an investment relationship manager at Capital Group, which owns more than 10% of Lockheed Martin.
Each JASSM bomb, used by the US army to bomb Syria, costs over a million dollars. Lockheed Martin made a nice profit and its shareholders, including Capital Group, made a fortune as the shares soared.

Philip May met Theresa at the notorious Oxford University. In 1979, Philip personally escorted Richard Nixon to a debate for the Oxford Union.

Capital Group also has investments in other corporations that will profit from the war in the Middle East. Capital owns 5% of Boeing and 10% of Royal Dutch Shell: https://theswamp.media/how-philip-ma...-capital-group

Capital is the second largest shareholder in Lockheed Martin.
Capital is also the largest shareholder in arms manufacturer BAE Systems.

The UK army fired 8 “Storm-Shadow” missiles, manufactured by BAE Systems, at an alleged chemical weapons facility, that cost £790,000 ($1.13 million) a piece – for a total of £6.32 million ($9 million).

Former Chancellor of the Exchequer and present editor-in-chief at the Evening Standard and MP George Osborne works for BlackRock; the fifth largest shareholder in BAE systems: http://travelwirenews.com/pms-husban...trikes-820375/

Bullingdon Boy George Osborne gets paid £650,000 a year for “working” just 48 days (4 days a month), or £13,000 per day, as an adviser for BlackRock (in addition to share rewards): https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ackrock-salary

From 2006 to 2015, Rupert Harrison served as George Osborne’s Chief of Staff. Harrison was also schooled at Eton College and Oxford.
In August 2015, Harrison became a Portfolio Manager and Chief Macro Strategist at BlackRock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Harrison

Rothschild Capital Partners also made a bundle as it holds 2.8% of Lockheed Martin shares, coincidentally raising its stake in the third quarter of 2017: https://bzweekly.com/2018/02/21/lock...lowered-stake/


Too bad our wonderful media isn’t able to see that the big investment funds don’t only control the industrial military complex, but the whole economy: https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=319891
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Syrian air defenses respond to missiles over Homs province – state media

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‘Syrian air defense systems have been activated in response to a missile attack apparently targeting Shayrat Airbase in Homs province, state media SANA reports.

Up to 10 missiles were destroyed by the Syrian Armed Forces, a military source told Sputnik. The Syrian air defenses managed to intercept some of the projectiles, according to a SANA reporter. Meanwhile, the Al Mayadeen news outlet is claiming that all the projectiles were intercepted and inflicted no physical damage or casualties at the targeted Syrian base.

The Pentagon has denied initiating strikes or conducting any other military activity in Homs province. “There is no US military activity in that area at this time,” the Pentagon’s spokesperson told Reuters. The same information was also shared with TASS news agency by Pentagon spokesman Eric Pahon.

According to yet unconfirmed reports, the missiles entered Syrian airspace from Lebanon, which may indicate that the Israeli Air Force could have been involved, Al-Masdar News reports, citing a military source. The outlet’s reporter also published several videos allegedly showing the launch of interceptor missiles.’

https://www.rt.com/news/424333-syria...-defense-homs/


Of course it’s Israel, the same force and same people are continuing to cause provocation in Syria that operate through the West now through Israel.

Genie Energy and resources in Golan Heights I’m sure is a driving factor...
Maybe Israel has proof of another Chemical Attack we don’t know about yet.

It’s ridiculous and anyone who can’t see the conflicts of interests between international Zionism, Genie Energy and Israel, there’s just no hope.
All the major controllers of Zionism, back and support the state of Israel and operate out of western nations, have a hand in Genie Energy.

Genie Energy being just a part a reason why these attacks are happening and geopolitical advancements are being made...

IRAN TO ISRAEL: FINGERS ARE ON THE TRIGGER, MISSILES ARE READY TO LAUNCH

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The second-in-command of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, Hossein Salami, threatened Israel on Friday: "Do not trust your air bases," he said. "They are within the range of fire."

"Our fingers are on the trigger and the missiles are ready to launch. The moment the enemy decides to act against us, we will launch them.


"We have learned ways to overcome our enemies, and we can harm the enemies vital interests anywhere we want," Salami added, in what may have been a response to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's assertion earlier on Friday that "the IDF is prepared for any [threat from Iran.]"

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We are seeing a game being played out as method of politics upon the world stage right now and it’s not too different to this at all...

Tom Clancy - Splinter Cell - November 17, 2002
It may sound far fetched, especially to the mainstream mindset but we are seeing a more complex version of this game being played out and then where this is leading. It’s all be planned and long systematically designed, they’re just playing it out for us to see, but by but when they want us to see it and they try and engineer us into compliance by drip feeding and predictive programming that doesn’t have to be 100% accurate just get you to embrace a certain mindset to accept similar circumstances.

Tom Clancy is either a George Orwell typed futurist in these predicted scenarios, they’ve been used in an attempt to engineer compliance to these scenarios and he has been used as a go between via Intelligence Agencies as a mechanism to present certain informations to the public or so such tactics and scenarios could be exposed and avoided if enough people see them.

You only need to rearrange a few minor points in this game and others in the series, the tactics are used within this game, are designed to have a knock on effect upon other world powers by an all too common international syndicate, this is being used to create an Informational Warfare by methods of technology, DOS Attacks, theft and espionage, against what this syndicate views as its enemies, potentially leading to WWIII and this is a duplicate of current world events.
This is the international syndicate using nations it owns and controls to attack those it doesn’t by engineering warfare of all kinds to spread its sphere of influence often called the New World Order this is what happens in reality but they want you to buy into the fact their enemies are the ones responsible, to them justify their preconceived political movements.

Of course it’s from the “good” perspective of the west (Black and White) but if you can see through the deception in the MSM then you can see the same subtle inversions in this content.
This is programming to the deception of politics and the military trying to make an army of Sam Fishers if you don’t see through it, just like everything mainstream. If you don’t see through it then usually that means you’re complicit to this ideology of the internationalists and used as a pawn and would easily laugh and brush off the idea that this could be the case as you still see this Control system as a “Conspiracy Theory” and not the reality that it is otherwise the game couldn’t be played, as many people hypnotised by it wouldn’t be playing it. If you saw these things in an unfortunate reality, you should be outraged at these deceptions until eventually you realise in a collective manner, it your own fault and as long as you can be deceived you deserve to be. Eventually seeing its effects and implications you should feel concerned...

As the PTB try to justify censorship, clamp down on encryption based communications, give rights and powers to more alphabet agencies and use cybercrime as a mechanism to justify actual physical warfare I’d suggest people don’t take it seriously and watch it and reflect upon what’s going on now and you will see parallels.




More along the same lines, again still twisted but similar plot being engineered...



Informational footprints/fingerprints being misplaced on enemy nations...

Vault 7 - Hacks attributed to "enemy" nations may have been the CIA

This means Vault 7 states that the tools the CIA use can misdirect cyber crime. Fingerprints can be made by the CIA to implicate a third party that in reality has nothing to do with the cyber attack. They could create a setup, "Hansel and Gretel" style breadcrumbs could be left in the cyber world, leading the activity to countries and organisation in which have nothing to do with the activity, but instead a trail created by the CIA to directly implicate it's enemies. This is a hidden information warfare, to then provoke and create genuine outbreaks of war, that otherwise look as though those initiating it are the nation to make the first move. A Perception Deception.

https://storify.com/Danny1UK/vault-7...tions-may-have

I don’t want to lead the similarities here, as either people will see them or not and I don’t want to convince anyone of anything...


Tom Clancy was for “democracy everywhere” and this international syndicate using the US army as a tool to take the world where these powers want us to be. Anyone who was against that ideology is backward on the subject and the US is going to achieve this effort for “the world”...

Did he have a change of heart and met with a sticky end?
Who knows. But if you watch you can definitely see some “reality crossovers” and watch this interview.

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General Wesley Clark is mentioned and I’m sure his opinion would have drastically changed.
I’ve used some of this interview in the context of a possible false flag in the future to bring in a Globalist Army as security at first for the internationalists agenda...



Sure the international terrorists “fake common enemy” - Islamist extremists - will likely strike an alliance with drug dealers - War on drugs - War on Terror .
Maybe they’ll also strike an alliance with Oil Barron’s or would that be a little too exposing and close to home?

But it’s probably all coincidental not “conspidental”, indicating an international conspiracy because there are no conspiracy’s.
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Syria Propaganda on the up within Western MSM and the U.N. is here again...

I’m sure the Jerusalem post is a real reliable information platform and care very dearly about the treatment of Palestinians...

SYRIAN ARMY POUNDS PALESTINIAN NEIGHBORHOOD IN DAMASCUS

“The UN warned President Bashar Assad of dire consequences for his bombardment of what was once the largest Palestinian refugee camp in Syria.
AMMAN - The Syrian army on Thursday intensified its bombardment of a besieged Palestinian neighborhood and nearby rebel-held areas in southern Damascus, the last area near the capital outside government control.

Most civilians have long since fled the neighborhood called the Yarmouk camp, once the largest Palestinian refugee camp in Syria, but enough have stayed behind that the United Nations has called on the warring parties to spare civilians.

The Russian-backed Syrian army launched a major offensive last week to capture the south Damascus enclave that includes Yarmouk and neighboring areas, which have been held for years by rebel fighters and Islamic State militants.”

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British man blown up while fighting Isis in Syria was due to leave war-torn region two hours later, inquest hears

A British man who was killed fighting Isis in Syria had been due to leave the war-torn region just two hours later, an inquest heard today.
Jac Holmes, 24, had spent four months engaged in heavy fighting in Raqqa and had told his mother he was ready to leave for "rest and recuperation". 
But as he attempted to defuse a suicide belt, he was blown up, and the transport scheduled to take him on his homeward journey home arrived minutes after he was killed.
It had been the former IT worker's third tour of Syria and although his parents pleaded with him not to go he told them he had 'unfinished business with Isis'.
Dad Peter Holmes and mum Angie Blannin told his inquest that they were so proud of their son who was considered a 'legend' among the Kurdish people.
Mrs Blannin said: "In Syria everyone knows his name, we didn't realise but people there will be calling their children Jac for many years to come because of him."
The hearing heard Mr Holmes a former painter and decorator from Bournemouth, Dorset, had no military experience but wanted to join the Kurdistan People's Protection Units (YPG) because he thought he could help.
He first flew to Syria in January 2015 despite efforts by his family and the police to stop him.”

He returned to the UK for a few months in the summer of 2015 and again in April 2016 and each time his father tried to dissuade him from going back.

The hearing in Bournemouth heard he had been fighting in Rawda, the north eastern quarter of Raqqa, for four months and had helped liberate the city.
He spoke to his mother the day before he died and told her he was "tired and had had enough" and was leaving the area the next day for some "rest and recuperation" before returning to the UK.
But on October 23, 2016 he tried to defuse a suicide belt, which he had apparently done multiple times successfully before, when it detonated, killing him instantly.
A post mortem examination carried out when his body was repatriated to the UK found the cause of death was severe blast head injuries.

The report said: "The distribution of injuries suggest he was kneeling on his right knee while bending over an explosive device at the time of detonation."
A detective from Dorset Police told the inquest the force had tried to stop Mr Holmes from going to Syria and had actually managed to block his entry at Gatwick Airport the first time he went out.
But he was determined and found another way into the country, signing a disclaimer stating that he was aware of the danger.
DC John Marshall said: "I personally made significant efforts to stop Jac travelling to Syria. The first journey we managed to stop him at Gatwick.

"I gave him a proper security briefing outlining the obvious dangers. Sadly he was not to be deterred.
"I tried to say to him there were other things he could do, humanitarian work, but he said I'm not going to be happy until I'm gun in hand out there. That was his commitment to it."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...r-torn-region/

As I said Propaganda.

Trying to make the Zionists war upon the Middle East, in this case Syria so a few families and Oil interests can gain access to Syria’s Oil and so Israel can gain ownership of Golan Heights, to “protect Jewish settlements”, look honourable and desirable against the odds. You should want to fight this war etc etc it’s propaganda and he would have been better off staying at home and not dying for the cause of the internationalists, being sold and justified under other reasons.

They caused this “Civil War” as they have others.

They arm, back and train ISIS and call the “moderate terrorists” used for geopolitical ends of the Zionists, pitted them against Syria and Assad’s Government, people and civilians all in the name of regime change of Syria for a globalist agenda and then eventually, without resistance, Israel can expand its land base into “Greater Israel”, taking much land of surrounding Arab nations these internationalists are at war against.
Along with building King Solomon’s Temple upon the ashes of The Dome of the Rock.

Then they use the White Helmets, a terrorist organisation in cahoots with these “moderate rebels” ISIS along with the western powers that fund them, to then make propaganda videos and scenarios to then justify why western powers under “coalition forces” should become involved in these wars. It’s a deception and it’s all being carried out and orchestrated from the beginning by the international Zionists for their agenda and overall cause.
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