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Old 06-01-2017, 08:21 PM   #1961
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This gets weirder...

If you see brendan's facebook pictures of the wedding they look different again!

in this one she's had her hair professionally done. But look at the suits!

Here, Brendan is apparently wearing the suffragette colour scheme...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

BRIGHT PURPLE tie, grey suit, and button hole.

Yet, in the reshot pearl earrings photos he is wearing what looks like the same suit, but with no button hole, but most importantly, a completely different tie. This one a spotted maroon one...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...6609140601.jpg

In these wedding shots, she is also not wearing those big pearl earring, but what look like possibly the black dot ones (they're dark in the middle with an edge of what looks like silver metal):

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

I'm so confused! Was he photoshopped into her original suffragette wedding pictures here? Or maybe, they did even get married after all?

Regardless, the scruffy haired, big pearl earring shots have been taken on a different day, but for what reason?! Theories welcome
There may have been two weddings ..... one for their circle of friends and another in Scotland for family? And a separate hen week-end in Yorkshire too?

Suzy Sumner:

"In 2009 I went to Jo's hen weekend... she was going to marry Brendan Cox - a man that truly shares her passions and supported her on her journey. A hen weekend that consisted of a walk to Top Withins (Wuthering Heights) in beautiful Bronte countryside in Yorkshire, followed by a karaoke night in Leeds, followed by a women's 5km run for breast cancer awareness in Bradford... that was Jo!"

http://www.suzysumner.com/blog-1/love-like-jo-loved

It appears there was a 5km run in Bradford on Monday 8 June 2009.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...for_life_2009/

Brendan Cox in the Guardian doesn't mention friends having to hike to Knoydart, only family. I doubt if there is sufficient accommodation in such a remote spot for at least 15 female friends, their partners and others.

"Jo and I got married in 2009 in one of the most remote places in the UK, a wild peninsular called Knoydart, much to the bemusement of our family who had to hike in their wedding gear."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...about-her-life

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Old 06-01-2017, 08:54 PM   #1962
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I think I've cracked it!


Suspecting that the suffragette wedding was to Joshua Blackburn I went digging on 192. I think I might be right, but have a look and see what you think.

Mark - There's no further record of Helen J Leadbeater and Blackburn post 2002...Because that's when she became Helen J BLACKBURN!!!!

I can't post images but I've screenshotted them all and have them saved in case they get taken down. Here it is all transcribed, check for yourselves. If I'm right here, it seems that Brendan Cox is actually Vincent R Cox according to the Electoral Roll. Guy can't even tell the truth about his own name.

And strangely they did get seem to get married, it appears from the below in 2006. But they started living together in 2002 or 2004 I can't quite work it out from the records. Any further digging is much appreciated!

Anyway here it is:

Helen J Leadbeater & Joshua M Blackburn 2002

Helen J Blackburn & Vincent R Cox 2002 - 2006

Vincent R Cox & Helen J Blackburn/Helen J Cox 2004 - 2008

Vincent R Cox & Helen J Cox 2007-2013

This year she also registers back with her parents...

Helen J Cox & Jean Leadbeater/Gordon Leadbeater 2010-2011

Vincent R Cox & Helen J Cox 2013-2017

Notice the 2017 date! Why, in 2017, is she still registered as living with him? She's supposed to be dead after all
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:53 PM   #1963
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I think I've cracked it!


Suspecting that the suffragette wedding was to Joshua Blackburn I went digging on 192. I think I might be right, but have a look and see what you think.

Mark - There's no further record of Helen J Leadbeater and Blackburn post 2002...Because that's when she became Helen J BLACKBURN!!!!

I can't post images but I've screenshotted them all and have them saved in case they get taken down. Here it is all transcribed, check for yourselves. If I'm right here, it seems that Brendan Cox is actually Vincent R Cox according to the Electoral Roll. Guy can't even tell the truth about his own name.

And strangely they did get seem to get married, it appears from the below in 2006. But they started living together in 2002 or 2004 I can't quite work it out from the records. Any further digging is much appreciated!

Anyway here it is:

Helen J Leadbeater & Joshua M Blackburn 2002

Helen J Blackburn & Vincent R Cox 2002 - 2006

Vincent R Cox & Helen J Blackburn/Helen J Cox 2004 - 2008

Vincent R Cox & Helen J Cox 2007-2013

This year she also registers back with her parents...

Helen J Cox & Jean Leadbeater/Gordon Leadbeater 2010-2011

Vincent R Cox & Helen J Cox 2013-2017

Notice the 2017 date! Why, in 2017, is she still registered as living with him? She's supposed to be dead after all
Great find about the wedding photos.

The Vincent R Cox & Helen J Cox above are a different couple living in St. Austell / Cornwall.

Extraordinary coincidence though.
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:06 PM   #1964
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Great find about the wedding photos.

The Vincent R Cox & Helen J Cox above are a different couple living in St. Austell / Cornwall.

Extraordinary coincidence though.
Hmmm,

I didn't include the ages of these Vincent and Helen Cox's transcriptions but not only would the names (overlapping with Blackburn and then again leadbeater) be a coincidence, but the ages match theirs as close as can be.

I've always doubted their houseboat is their real, full time address that they solely live at and raise two small children in. If these Cox's are registered in Cornwall I'd be inclined to presume it's our guys who have their registered main base down there in Cornwall. Is there evidence somewhere that I've missed of there being a separate Cornwall Cox's couple existing?

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Old 06-01-2017, 10:21 PM   #1965
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Hmmm,

I didn't include the ages of these Vincent and Helen Cox's transcriptions but not only would the names (overlapping with Blackburn and then again leadbeater) be a coincidence, but the ages match theirs as close as can be.

I've always doubted their houseboat is their real, full time address that they solely live at and raise two small children in. If these Cox's are registered in Cornwall I'd be inclined to presume it's our guys who have their registered main base down there in Cornwall. Is there evidence somewhere that I've missed of there being a separate Cornwall Cox's couple existing?
It is curious that she registered with her parents, during the same time that Brendan had a gap on his LinkedIn (May 2010 - June 2011).

I agree, it's not a very save environment for very young children on a houseboat. The other house on the River Wye was more of a weekend hideaway, no electricity, running water etc. I thought they also had a house in Batley and Spen? Not sure though.

Vincent Cox does exist though if you google Vin Cox, St. Austell his LinkedIn comes up.

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Old 06-01-2017, 10:41 PM   #1966
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It is curious that she registered with her parents, during the same time that Brendan had a gap on his LinkedIn (May 2010 - June 2011).

I agree, it's not a very save environment for very young children on a houseboat. The other house on the River Wye was more of a weekend hideaway, no electricity, running water etc. I thought they also had a house in Batley and Spen? Not sure though.

Vincent Cox does exist though if you google Vin Cox, St. Austell his LinkedIn comes up.
Yeah, he's pretty much the same age/4 yrs older than Brendan too (looks like he was born 1975, although I'm sure Brendan is a bit younger, I'm sure I remember seeing that brendan was 38 somewhere).

Nevermind, still the strange puzzle exists as to why there are no records of them living together at any point if this Cornwall parallel universe couple is a complete coincidence. I'll keep on it, maybe sleeping on it, something will click for me (or someone else!).

the 2002 marriage to Blackburn seemed more likely than that picture being taken in 2009 due to Kim Leadbeater alone. If that was only 7 years ago she's aged rapidly!!! (Ooh, and of course the dated, early 00's dress I was previously going on about!)

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Labour MP Jo Cox has been shot and stabbed in West Yorkshire - reports



Labour MP Jo Cox has been shot and stabbed at her advice surgery in West Yorkshire, her office has confirmed. Reports say the gunman is still at large.
West Yorkshire Police are attending a major ongoing incident in Birstall near the city of Leeds in northern England.
Reports suggest a woman, now believed to be Labour MP Jo Cox, has been shot and stabbed near the local library.


http://on.rt.com/7fpn
The OP was written at 2:26 PM , by which time RT, the quoted source, had updated its page.

So, when did RT catch on? Their page is timed at 12:38, which I suspect is CEST, i.e. BST +1
This is confirmed by their tweet:
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/743422950347509760
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RT Verified account @RT_com
BREAKING: 1 person shot in ongoing incident near UK city of Leeds - reports
5:40 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [1:40 PM BST]
Where are they getting this information from?

Also very early to report was the Yorshire Post's editor...
https://twitter.com/NicolaFurbisher/...23447775182848
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Nicola Furbisher Verified account @NicolaFurbisher
First take on what we know @leedsnews. Woman ‘shot and stabbed’ outside Birstall library http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...rary-1-7967886
5:42 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [1:42 PM BST]
The article is on the web at 1:35 PM BST before updating...
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...rary-1-7967886

Furbisher knew Cox
https://twitter.com/Jo_Cox1/status/693030869196369920
Quote:
Jo Cox MP Verified account @Jo_Cox1
About to meet @NicolaFurbisher of the @yorkshirepost at my Batley office to discuss working together on their excellent #loneliness campaign
3:20 AM - 29 Jan 2016[ [11:20 AM UTC]
....which became one of the three beneficiaries of the Jo Cox Fund.

https://twitter.com/NicolaFurbisher/...57828655755264
Quote:
Nicola Furbisher Verified account @NicolaFurbisher
Good to meet @Jo_Cox1 with @LindsayPantryYP today to talk abt @yorkshirepost #loneliness campaign. An important announcement coming soon.
5:07 AM - 29 Jan 2016 [1:07 PM UTC]

and fast forward to June 16 - new travels fast.

https://twitter.com/NicolaFurbisher/...27927845576704
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Nicola Furbisher Verified account @NicolaFurbisher
The office of @Jo_Cox1 has confirmed she was the victim of an attack outside Birstall library. We are seeking updates on her condition.
6:00 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [2:00 PM BST]
[declared dead inside an ambulance 12 minutes earlier, so the story goes]

Channel 4 had the news by 1:56 PM BST [not tweeted, perhaps a newsflash on TV]
https://twitter.com/rhodri_jones/sta...26992993935360
rhodri_jonesVerified account
@rhodri_jones
Head of Home News at Channel 4 News. Views mine. Walthamstow. Grays Inn Road. Wales. http://www.channel4.com/news/

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rhodri_jones Verified account @rhodri_jones
Office of Jo Cox MP confirm that she has been shot and stabbed in West Yorkshire today. @Channel4News
5:56 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [1:56 PM BST]

Remember Justin Forsyth went on to Channel 4 later that day.


The first tweet of anything untoward in Birstall...
https://twitter.com/Ashmilnes/status/743419041684000768
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Ash Milnes @Ashmilnes [a local newshound and blogger....]
Reports of a shooting incident Birstall town center near to Library, male lying in road. Police on scene with helicopter hovering above.
5:24 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [1:24 PM BST]
"male" sounds like plod talk. Reports from where?

Neatly picked up by the YP
https://twitter.com/LeedsNews/status/743420551432069121
Quote:
YorkshireEvening Post Verified account [email protected]
@Ashmilnes Can you call Yorkshire Post newsdesk please? 01132388501
5:30 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [1:30 PM BST] from Wales, United Kingdom
Quote:
YorkshireEveningPost Verified account [email protected]
West Yorkshire Police say major incident ongoing in #Birstall #Leeds. More follows
5:34 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [1:34 PM BST]
This is too silly for words, the aerial helicopter footage of the arrest is time stamped 1:31 PM, with "Mair" already on the ground. There is no ongoing incident, other than an ongoing media farce.
Even less likely that there is a "huge manhunt" going on an hour after the Risedale Avenue staged arrest...

https://twitter.com/LeedsNews/status/743434361618456576
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YorkshireEveningPost Verified account @LeedsNews
Labour MP Jo Cox ‘shot and stabbed’ outside Birstall library - huge hunt for attacker: http://*******/24SLvg0
Nicola Furbisher
6:25 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [2:25 PM BST]


https://twitter.com/LeedsNews/status/743425361820721153
nobody was at large....
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YorkshireEveningPost Verified account @LeedsNews
BREAKING: Woman ‘shot and stabbed’ outside Birstall library - man at large: http://*******/1rrSnnz #yeplive
5:49 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [1:49 PM BST]
"Mair" was in the can nearly twenty minutes previously. Go to 17:49 in Gentile Jim's compilation of the day's timeline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8R6xmDiig8

https://twitter.com/LeedsNews/status/743427210514677760
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YorkshireEveningPost Verified account [email protected]
We are investigating reports that MP Jo Cox has been involved in the shooting and stabbing incident outside Birstall Library.
5:57 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [1:57 PM BST]
Reports from whom? They ought to be hearing reports that Jo Cox had allegedly been pronounced dead 9 minutes previously in the secrecy of an ambulance by a doctor from Hull.

The Yorkshire post was first to report on two people being attacked...
https://twitter.com/yorkshirepost/st...25645573603328
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The Yorkshire Post Verified account @yorkshirepost
Two people 'shot and stabbed in Birstall' #YPLive ********************/zlgkhsb
5:51 AM - 16 Jun 2016 from Leeds, England [1:51 PM BST]
how could they have missed one person being shot/stabbed?
https://twitter.com/GisaTwit/status/743426517380767744
Quote:
Graham L @GisaTwit
@yorkshirepost Heard a rumour that the MP Jo Cox is involved. #Birstall #Batley
5:54 AM - 16 Jun 2016
Did you now? Not as the shooter, I hope. I wonder where Graham heard that - having only tweeted once in the whole of 2016....

Finally, the legend who broke the story, outside the dry cleaners..[on left] with BBC cameraman...
https://twitter.com/Cameramal/status/743519596196536321
Quote:
Malik Walton @Cameramal
@Ashmilnes the legend in person !!
12:04 PM - 16 Jun 2016 [8:04 PM BST

Quote:
Ash Milnes [email protected] 16 Jun 2016 [8:41 PM BSt]
@Cameramal - Terrible circumstances in which to meet, but nice to see you mate.
hmmm Ash was rather slow to upload photos from the scene.

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Old 07-01-2017, 10:49 AM   #1968
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There may have been two weddings ..... one for their circle of friends and another in Scotland for family? And a separate hen week-end in Yorkshire too?

Suzy Sumner:

"In 2009 I went to Jo's hen weekend... she was going to marry Brendan Cox - a man that truly shares her passions and supported her on her journey. A hen weekend that consisted of a walk to Top Withins (Wuthering Heights) in beautiful Bronte countryside in Yorkshire, followed by a karaoke night in Leeds, followed by a women's 5km run for breast cancer awareness in Bradford... that was Jo!"

http://www.suzysumner.com/blog-1/love-like-jo-loved

It appears there was a 5km run in Bradford on Monday 8 June 2009.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...for_life_2009/

Brendan Cox in the Guardian doesn't mention friends having to hike to Knoydart, only family. I doubt if there is sufficient accommodation in such a remote spot for at least 15 female friends, their partners and others.
Behind Jo in the very natural looking timber lodge scene [it could be Knoydart but doesn't quite fit any of the dining locations there] is SCF insider and trustee of the Jo Cox Foundation, Kirsty Jean McNeill

see https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...postcount=1213
The others in the picture don't look like family.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...1828.517547950
Certainly the vegetation around the "rustic bridge" wedding dress photo looks rather too lush for Knoydart.

It really is a tight circle around Jo from the Charity/Gordon Brown/Kinnock nexus.
https://twitter.com/Lisa_Forsyth1/st...80673171804162
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Lisa Forsyth [email protected]_Forsyth1
Well done @Jo_Cox1 Batley & Spen's newly selected Labour candidate. Another great Labour woman, who'll be an excellent MP!
10:24 AM - 10 May 2014 [6:24 PM BST]

Jo Cox MP [email protected]_Cox1 13 May 2014 [5:12 PM BST]
@Lisa_Forsyth1 Thanks Lisa!
https://twitter.com/Lisa_Forsyth1/st...37792156483584
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Lisa Forsyth @Lisa_Forsyth1
@Jo_Cox1 is an amazing MP, wonderful mum and great friend. Thoughts are with her, @MrBrendanCox and the kids. Sending lots of love xx
6:39 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [2:39 PM BST]
Lisa Forsyth
@Lisa_Forsyth1
Mum | NYC dweller | Feminist politico & @HillaryClinton fan | @uklabour @europarl alum | Welsh, British, European | #moreincommon #stillwithher
Manhattan, NY Joined February 2009


Forsyth...any connection with Justin?
https://twitter.com/justinforsyth/st...23860960546817
https://twitter.com/glenyskinnock/st...46382306746370
Quote:
Justin Forsyth [email protected] 11 Jan 2013 [1:22 PM UTC]
Arthur Stanley Forsyth, 3 hours old
[image]
Glenys Kinnock @GlenysKinnock
@justinforsyth Many congratulations to Lisa and Justin and a warm welcome to little Arthur - can't wait to meet him .
RETWEETS
2
Mary Riddell Lucy Powell MP
9:21 AM - 12 Jan 2013 [5:12 PM UTC]


Justin Forsyth's London
https://howtospendit.ft.com/travel/6...orsyths-london[
NOVEMBER 10 2014
It's certainly was far from grim up North London in 2014.


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...9974.903710436


Lisa being the former Lisa Stevens, unsuccessful Welsh EU parliamentary candidate and Kinnock protegee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales_...t_constituency)

https://www.facebook.com/33597024640...2./58037909640

Lisa centre.

Other commenters of note at the "Knoydart" wedding photo of Brendan:
https://twitter.com/joannamaycock
Joanna Maycock
Putting feminism at the heart of fight for justice and equality as Secretary General @EuropeanWomen
Brussels

http://www.womenlobby.org/
http://www.womenlobby.org/Brexit-Women-s-Rights
Quote:
[Brussels, 16 December 2016] After BREXIT, we at the European Women’s Lobby were devastated. This is not the Europe we want, and we think it is not the kind of Europe most people in Britain want either.
Aha.
[I think the writer means the result of the referendum, since there has been no Brexit]
There is a document at the above link Downloads/brexit-perspectives_from_women_s_organisations_final-2.pdf
Maycock:
Quote:
"Jo Cox was murdered for what she believed in.....We will work towards our vision for a Europe based on well-being, equality, social justice. "
i.e. so that everyone will be able to enjoy the kind of North London fine dining formerly enjoyed by Justin, I suppose? [and probably goes on every day of the week in Brussels]

https://twitter.com/JoannaMaycock/st...32813857730561
Quote:
Joanna Maycock @JoannaMaycock
Utterly heartbroken by murder of my dear friend @Jo_Cox1 @MrBrendanCox we will continue to fight for #love #peace
12:56 PM - 16 Jun 2016 [8:56 PM BST]
Quote:
Follow
https://twitter.com/JoannaMaycock/st...59135283781632
Joanna Maycock @JoannaMaycock
Joanna Maycock Retweeted Stylist Magazine
Inspiration and friend to many. Including me.Joanna Maycock added,
Stylist Magazine @StylistMagazine
"There are tears flowing in the House of Commons": Britain pays tribute to Jo Cox MP http://www.stylist.co.uk/people/labo...shot-in-street

2:41 PM - 16 Jun 2016 [10:41 PM BST]
https://twitter.com/JoannaMaycock/st...66690198380545
Quote:
Louise Woollard LLP [email protected] 16 Jun 2016 [10:39 PM BST]
Senior Partner Practice of
St. James's Place Wealth Management, Brighouse

What a truly horrendous day @Jo_Cox1 will never be forgotten #articulate #intelligent #funny #thoughtful a true friend & loved X


Joanna Maycock @JoannaMaycock
@LLPLouise we are utterly heartbroken : all dear friends of @Jo_Cox1 in Brussels please send all our love to the batley crew #LoveWins
3:11 PM - 16 Jun 2016 [11:11 PM BST]
and last but not least, and more of the same...
Anna Yearley
https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-yearley-771239bb
finally someone with a first class degree
Executive Director
Reprieve UK
January 2016 – Present (1 year 1 month)London, United Kingdom
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June 2000 – September 2002 (2 years 4 months)
Education University of Liverpool
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1997 – 2000

https://twitter.com/AnnaYearley/stat...26735300255744
Quote:
Jo Cox MP [email protected]_Cox1 11 Dec 2013 [11:15 PM UTC]
I've just been accepted onto Harvard University's Public Policy & Global Leadership programme. Bring on spring in Cambridge, Massachusetts!

Anna Yearley [email protected] 11 Dec 2013 [12:19 AM 12 Dec 2013 UTC]
@Jo_Cox1 wow. Massive congrats Jo


Jo Cox MP Verified account [email protected]_Cox1
@AnnaYearley thanks A xx
11:28 PM - 11 Dec 2013 [7:28 AM UTC]
in a short period of time followed by...
Quote:
https://twitter.com/AnnaYearley/stat...63007933550592
https://twitter.com/Jo_Cox1/status/466241856930844672
Anna Yearley @AnnaYearley
So delighted the fantastic @Jo_Cox1 has been selected as Labour candidate in Batley & Spen.She's a great local woman who'll be a brill MP
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Rachel Kinnock
9:14 AM - 10 May 2014 [5:14 PM BST]

Jo Cox MP Verified account @Jo_Cox1
@AnnaYearley a belated thanks Anna. Can't wait to work together x
8:41 AM - 13 May 2014
It must be the Harvard effect. It's certainly a rarified atmosphere up there in the Labour Party these days, their lives and desires having "little in common" with those of their former bedrock supporters.


https://twitter.com/stellacreasy/sta...69369170190337
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stellacreasy @stellacreasy
“@AnnaYearley: So delighted the fantastic @Jo_Cox1 has been selected as Labour candidate in Batley & Spen< excellent news! Go jo!
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9:39 AM - 10 May 2014 [5:39 PM BST]

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Old 08-01-2017, 02:51 AM   #1969
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Jo Leadbeater's marriage to Brendan Cox


I've found the marriage for Helen Joanne Leadbeater to Brendan Cox on the ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk BMD website.


They were married in 2009 in the Registration District of Fort William and Ballachulish.

Free registration to the site produces the results below.


Helen Joanne Leadbeater marriage to Brendan Cox Scottish People screen grab






and clicking on Spouse Details produces :


Helen Joanne Leadbeater marriage to Brendan Cox Scottish People Spouse details screen grab





Copy certificate on it's way.




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Jo Leadbeater's marriage to Brendan Cox


I've found the marriage for Helen Joanne Leadbeater to Brendan Cox on the ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk BMD website.


They were married in 2009 in the Registration District of Fort William and Ballachulish.

Free registration to the site produces the results below.


Helen Joanne Leadbeater marriage to Brendan Cox Scottish People screen grab






and clicking on Spouse Details produces :


Helen Joanne Leadbeater marriage to Brendan Cox Scottish People Spouse details screen grab





Copy certificate on it's way.




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That's bloody fantastic Mark. Well done.
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Thanks rp.

I was using Scotlandspeople.gov.uk to check up on Tommy Mair's reported family details here.

thenational.scot : Murder of Jo Cox: The Suspect

This was the article that originally had a time stamp of June 18th, 2016 - 12:01 am - which I was surprised at given the amount of detail therein, then felixfelix found similar details in a Sun article from the day of the Jo Cox murder !

Tommy Mair's parents checked out & that was as far as I went with it.

I had already emailed the Scotttish GRO equivalent enquiring how I go about tracing a wedding in Knoydart because I'd assumed that Scotland would be the same as England & Wales in not releasing recent BMD events.

I have read that the GRO for England and Wales have released BMD records only up to 2006.

Looks like Scotland's GRO have a different release strategy.

So there it is. We'll see what other details we can get from the marriage certificate.

We now have this wee conundrum to sort out from the "wife" of the psychologically flawed one :


The "wife" quotation marks for Sarah Brown are from Richard D Hall @ 2:47 in part 1 of 3 of the Fabricated Terror video - can't wait to find out what he's referring to ...

Note : The RichPlanet.net Fabricated Terror video predates the Jo Cox event and so it's just the intro that Richard D Hall has updated since the Jo Cox event.


Guardian : 11 December 2016

Jo Cox remembered by Sarah Brown

...

Jo was wildly enthusiastic and cheerful and so persuasive in getting people to join our cause. I think it says so much about Jo that she changed her name three months before she married Brendan as she started her new job working with me, because there would be no fiddly paperwork distractions that might interfere in her new marriage and her new job.

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Any ideas ?



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Old 08-01-2017, 12:35 PM   #1972
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Amazing Mark! Well done!! If this is the case and it was a straight forward marriage between a leadbeater and a cox in 2009, Why on earth was Sarah Brown making a big deal of her name being changed before getting married? I'm missing something here!
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Old 08-01-2017, 07:44 PM   #1973
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can we have a summary of the latest fines please i.e sarah brown for newbies to this post. what is the situation looking like? what have we discovered. bullet points would provide a great summary for people interested in this case as there seems to be a wealth of information researched




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can we have a summary of the latest fines please i.e sarah brown for newbies to this post. what is the situation looking like? what have we discovered. bullet points would provide a great summary for people interested in this case as there seems to be a wealth of information researched




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Hi Kyrusdemnati,

Welcome! I'm willing to bullet point all the major things I've found through my research and have published here. i can make a bullet point list for you, with references to the post numbers next to them for more information. Obviously, I'll ignore any of my theories that have been debunked by other members already! Off the top of my head I'll mention the springbok findings, the fotoforensic data on the photoshopped Britain first photo, and the CGI images being used in court. And the two weddings. If that is of any use to anyone in the future, who knows!

Watch this space...
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Old 08-01-2017, 09:32 PM   #1975
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We have come across Jo's friend, Wirral MP Alison McGovern before
https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...postcount=1758
who has taken over the Syria mantle in parliament and seems keen to encourage Syrian migration to the UK, yet another northern, female, university educated MP who had "migrated" south to the London magnet before securing a seat back in home territory.

Alison has recently penned this piece Last Hope Island
https://medium.com/@Alison_McGovern/...ab6#.v8y6xjikg
December 29 2016
Things are looking terrible for her....time for some scaremongering...
Quote:
I therefore encourage you to see what is staring us in the face: the far-right, and the power of their hate.
2016. Trump. Brexit. One of my friends is dead. Another has been forced into court to put two of Jo’s murderer’s fellow fascists in prison. A Jewish Labour councillor in Liverpool is peeling National Action ‘Nazi-zone’ stickers off signs in his ward....
but then she says some interesting things..
Quote:
So why has the Tory Government failed this [migration] target every year? The answer is simple, really. There is need for that workforce, so visas have been awarded. By and large, those coming from outside the EU are awarded tier 2 visas. These permits are awarded to those with a job offer in a skilled role. The Government are not awarding any visas at present for unskilled work, so could, presumably cease to award tier 2 visas if they wished to, and cut immigration that way.
Equally, if there was, in fact, a huge body of evidence that EU migration had lowered wages substantially, then given Cameron’s commitment to meeting his immigration target and Osborne’s stated aim of raising wages, if all that was needed to raise wages was a fall in migration, why would they have campaigned to stay in the EU at all? The Tory strategy could have been much more simple: campaign to leave the EU, cut low skilled migration, and, allegedly, raise wages.
But they didn’t. Because the truth is more complicated. There is something pulling in those workers to Britain. But it is not our benefits system. It’s our demography. It’s the age of our population, steadily growing older, that needs the working age population to grow to afford pensions, healthcare, and all the other services people require when they live long into their nineties.
The Office for National Statistics describes the Old Age Dependency Ratio, which measures the number of people at state pension age for every 1000 working age people. They say:
“The Old Age Dependency Ration was steady at around 300 from the 1980s to 2006, but rose in 2007–09 as women born in the post-World War II baby boom reached State Pension Age. In the absence of any increases to State Pension Age, it would reach 487 by 2039; but, as a result of planned State Pension Age increases taking place between 2010 and 2046 under current legislation, it is expected that?—?for every 1,000 people of working age in 2039?—?there will be 370 people of State Pension Age.”
Our financial position would be in ever greater peril, except for unpopular rises to state pension ages. But even still, the burden on working age people is increasing. Without younger people coming into our country, the UK Government’s fiscal position will deteriorate. I suppose those of us women who have chosen work over giving birth to many more children could be blamed also for age-imbalance. But I don’t think that any sort of population increase really appeals to those whose main argument for Brexit is, ‘the country is full!’.
Immigration then is simply the natural result of this demographic predicament.
This dilemma has been touched on recently by David "Two Brains" Willetts
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b086t0mb
who also suggests the predicted demographics, including lower birthrates, means that there won't be enough people working to pay the pensions of the longer living and healthier retired population. Perhaps this forced migration is seen as a solution. But to suggest the demography is pulling people to Britain is disingenuous. Does she really think that hundreds of thousands of East Europeans are rushing to start new lives in Britain so they can pay taxes for today's and tomorrow's pensioners and their care?
No, the government and its agents [development and migration charities] know the dilemma very well and seem to be using back door methods to solve it, and a porous EU with Britain as a member was part of that plan.

All these policy advisers in No 10, all these think tanks must be pondering this problem. Because no government will be elected on long term problems and their solutions.


Jo Cox seemed to burst onto the Labour scene through the Labour Women's Network., which combined with all women shortlists, is a good way to shoehorn the chosen ones into safe seats.
This page is still up
http://www.lwn.org.uk/jo_cox
which must have been written sometime in 2014 before she joined the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
First mention is in 2010
https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...postcount=1784
when she had already reached the executive, later chair, while working for Sarah Brown.
As Mark Gobell has pointed out, Mike Wood, the incumbent MP seems to have been given an offer he couldn't refuse to stand aside in 2015.

https://twitter.com/Jo_Cox1/status/1750926146670593
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Jo Cox MP Verified account [email protected]_Cox1
Great evening at my 1st executive committee meeting with @labourwomensnet about how to expand the number of talented women in politics
1:40 PM - 8 Nov 2010 [9:40 PM UTC]
i.e. me.

I've just discovered this fascinating early analysis of that day in Birstall from a German source
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Submi...38/38/Y/M.html
SUBMISSION: 10 CHALLENGING QUESTIONS ON THE COX-MURDER
Published: June 18, 2016

To every question, the answer seems to be that the official narrative doesn't stack up. It didn't happen.
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One thing is certain, no questions will ever be answered, ever.

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Old 08-01-2017, 09:36 PM   #1976
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Thank you I think many people would find it useful
The CGI court images are just farcical

I have seen news reports that mair allegedly said in course about British being first when he was asked his name...whuvh fits with the narrative of what they are saying. I have also read on this forum he said nothing at all. Bit confused about that
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Excellent work on finding the marriage certificate Mark!

It seems they have now found the owner of the rifle who bought it to set up a pest control business.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Jo-Cox-MP.html

This story gets weirder by the day.
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Thomas Mair's alleged murder weapon allegedly stolen on 2 August 2015


At last we have a date ...


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Excellent work on finding the marriage certificate Mark!

It seems they have now found the owner of the rifle who bought it to set up a pest control business.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Jo-Cox-MP.html

This story gets weirder by the day.


What a hoot this story is:

The 24-year-old had bought the .22 Weihrauch rimfire rifle for his new business

He remembers the day his shotgun was stolen and recalls locking his 4×4 Mitsubishi L200.

'I'd been out shooting rabbits on a farm,' he said.




'I was devastated,' he told The Sun


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The alleged murder weapon allegedly stolen from Keighly is widely reported to be a .22 Weihrauch rimfire rifle as stated above.

Why the article mentions a shotgun and shows a picture of an over and under shotgun is a mystery ...

The enduring mystery is who stole it and how the socially isolated, billy-no-mates, Tommy Mair allegedly managed to get his hands on it ... and how the sawn off version so closely resembles the SPLC's published image from the Improvised Munitions Handbook ...


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The Sun

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/255979...-of-his-agony/

'I BLAME MYSELF' Jockey whose gun was stolen, sawn off then used to kill MP Jo Cox by Hitler fanatic Thomas Mair tells of his agony

Devastated Zach Gaughan lost his gun licence and business following theft of weapon but still feels responsible for death of promising politicion

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by PAUL SIMS

7th January 2017, 9:13 pm

AN EX-JOCKEY whose stolen gun was used to murder MP Jo Cox told yesterday how he blamed himself.

Devastated Zach Gaughan, 24, bought the .22 Weihrauch rimfire rifle after setting up business as a pest controller.

He used cash left by his mum after she died aged 45.

But in August 2015 the rifle was nicked from the back of his 4×4 Mitsubishi L200.

As a result he lost his gun licence and his business.

Then in June last year he discovered his gun’s role in mum-of-two Mrs Cox’s death outside her surgery in Birstall, West Yorks.

Speaking publicly for the first time Zach, who was living 16 miles away in Keighley, said: “I was devastated.

“The police rang me a day after Jo Cox was murdered and said they had found my rifle and asked me to describe it.

“They said it had been sawn-off.”

Zach, about to become a father, added: “I was beside myself.

“To see Jo Cox’s kids will grow up without a mum is heartbreaking.”

Recalling the theft, he said: “I’d been out shooting rabbits on a farm.

“I parked the vehicle — I’m pretty sure I locked it — and gave a rabbit to my uncle and had a cup of tea.

“When I went back my dog was loose on the road and the back passenger door had been broken into.

“The rifle was gone.

“It had been in a gun sleeve and covered up with coats.

“I believed it was secure but the police said I had breached the terms and conditions of my licence because they thought I had left it unattended.”



Zach moved to Thirsk, North Yorks, and became a stable hand.

He said: “When police rang they said the gun had been used in an incident but didn’t say anything more.

“When I turned on the news I knew it was my gun.

“I felt guilty and responsible.

“To know my gun was used to kill someone makes me sick to the pit of my stomach.”



...

Last night police said: “The question of who supplied the firearm to Thomas Mair remains an active line of inquiry.

“The firearm was stolen on August 2, 2015.

“Also taken was an air rifle which has not been found and it appears the theft was opportunistic.”


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The Racing Post

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...=last7DaysNews

THE gun used by Thomas Mair to kill MP Jo Cox had been stolen from a former jockey.

Zack Gaughan, who had eight rides for Sue Smith between January 2011 and February 2014 but never rode a winner, had a licence for the .22 Weihrauch rimfire rifle.


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Keighley school teaching assistant dies from heart condition

http://www.keighleynews.co.uk/news/1...art_condition/

A HOLY Family School teaching assistant has died from a heart condition at the age of 45.

Donna Marie Gaughan worked with students with special educational needs at the Keighley school.

Ingrow mother-of-three Donna’s husband Eugene is also a teaching assistant at Holy Family.

...

Ryan has followed in his father’s footsteps by playing football for an Eccleshill team while Donna’s other love, horse riding, helped inspire their other son Zachery to become a jockey.


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Death Notices & Obituaries

Donna Maria Gaughan

thetelegraphandargus.co.uk

GAUGHAN Donna Maria Of your charity please pray for the repose of the soul of Donna, who passed away suddenly at Bradford Royal Infirmary on June 8, 2014, aged 45 years. Much loved wife of Eugene, dearly loved mum of Ryan, Zachery and Paige-Marie, loving daugther of Shirley, loved sister of Stephen, Trudy and Damian, dear daughter-in-law of Pat, sister-in-law, aunt and friend of many. The Requiem Mass will take place tomorrow Tuesday, June 17, at St. Joseph Catholic Church, Keighley, at 10.00a.m., followed by interment at Morton Cemetery. Family flowers only please but donations would be appreciated to British Heart Foundation. A plate will be provided at the church for this purpose or may be sent to David Gallagher Funeral Directors, Airedale House, Skipton Road, Utley, Keighley, BD20 6DT. May she rest in peace.

Published in the Bradford Telegraph and Argus on 16 Jun 2014


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Recall that the first UK BRILLO trademark UK00000309496 filed and registered on 12 January 1909, yielded a sublime :


= 666 month, 666 week, 666 day


relationship to the birth of Anders Breivik, another alleged subject of Thomas Mair's alleged googling in Batley libraries ...


Well, the same Brillo root yields an INClusive :


= 666 month

+ 666 + 666 + 666 week

+ 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 day >


666 666 666
666 666 666
666 666 666 > 666 x3 x3


relationship to David Cameron & co vetoing the changes to the Lisbon Treaty on 8 December 2011 ...


and a :


= 666 month

+ 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 week


relationship to the alleged theft of Zach Gaughan's rifle on 2 August 2015 ...



Also, recall that the Wikipedia fomation date of the South African While Liberation Movement - Die Blanke Bevrydingsbeweging (BBB) was :


= 666 + 666 + 666
+ 666 + 666 + 666
+ 666 + 666 + 666 days


after Jo Cox was born ...


Well, the date that Thomas Mair allegedly printed the Wikipedia page on the South African While Liberation Movement - Die Blanke Bevrydingsbeweging (BBB) on 31 July 2015 was :


an INClusive


= 666 + 666 days


since David Cameron and his then Foreign Secretary, William Hague vetoed the changes to the EU Lisbon Treaty on 8 December 2011


The date of the alleged theft of Zach Gaughan's .22 Weihrauch rimfire rifle on 2 August 2015 was :


an INTerval of


= 666 + 666 days


since David Cameron vetoed the Treaty changes at 2.30 in the morning after 10 hours of overnight negotiations on 8 December 2011







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Old 09-01-2017, 10:03 AM   #1979
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ha, what a load of rubbish!

Firstly, as Mark says, why are they showing the inside of the gun which is not the stolen gun in question....

From the pictures Zach Gaughan is posing with what looks like a brand spanking new gun, not the gun which eventually became the sawn-off cucumber. When i saw this I thought, oh he's clearly posing with his replacement gun which he got once his old one got nicked. However, the story contradicts this as it says he lost his license and therefore his business when the he reported the gun stolen. So why is he posing with a new gun?!

Notice no pictures of Zach with the stolen firearm in question, just this suspicious looking photo...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...trip=all&w=123

(photo rights belonging to Glen Minikin 07908039008. The same man who also has the rights to the 'i'm so sad this has happened to me' pictures of Zach)

they've also been clever enough to strip the metadata out of it this time but it looks very much like a staging photo, similar to the pre-set up pictures taken of the Lanza household in Sandy hook. Why would someone take a picture of their shotgun, in poor lighting, proped up against a car otherwise? Interesting that it was supposedly taken on the 2nd August 2015, when the set-up was in full swing, a few days after the SA racist printouts, and around a month after the photoshopped image of the britain first rally was created. I would hazard a guess that the if metadata was available it would show an August 2015, or perhaps a data closer to the trial (when we first knew what sort of gun was used).


This is based however on the assumption that an actual shotgun was stolen from a 'Zach Gaughan' of G3 Pest Control.

Zach Gaughan has no social media presence, or any internet presence at all except for this story. Very strange, especially for a previous Jockey and business owner. Nor is there any record of him on 192 or the white pages.

G3 Pest Control also has no presence that I can find, neither at companies house or companycheck.co.uk. I also just checked for businesses with G3 in the title, still nothing. There is a G3 Pest Control on Facebook. In Texas! The branding looks like some effort's gone into it, with the van design, and the fact he's wearing an embroidered logo of it on his jacket too.

My guess would be that this is completely staged, where an irish guy (he looks very irish, plus the surname plus the jockey bit) has agreed to be called 'Zach Gaughan' in exchange for a wad of cash. It could just be the first name they've changed. Or, it is semi staged, with an actual person working for G3 pest control has adopted the name Zach Gaughan for a bung of cash. I would presume if this business did exist it is perhaps operational in Ireland? I'll see what I can find. I doubt it though.

This image was also found on a google image search:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/...3873516977.jpg

Must have been removed due to the mobile number? If you google it it's not attached to any business, but the answer phone is for a zach...
I know the pictures are from 2 different sides of the van but why a phone number on one and not the other? photoshopped out I presume


Therefore, with no web presence of Zach Gaughan, nor G3 Pest control, nor any pictures with him and the shot gun (instead, contradicting their own story, pictures of him with a different shotgun, when the business was supposedly operational are provided) I'm inclined to say this smells fishy to say the very least!

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It seems that his web history has been removed. And they did a very good job of it.

He is on 192 as Zachary-james Gaughan.

http://www.192.com/atoz/people/gaughan/zachary-james/

And this could be his old twitter account:

https://twitter.com/zachgaughan


It could be that he used the Google right to be forgotten, but that contradicts with him coming out to the press as having been the previous owner of the rifle.

Also very careless to leave his Weihrauch and an air rifle (also stolen) in the car as this was what his whole business depended on.

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