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Old 02-07-2015, 03:51 PM   #1
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ISIS Announce Caliphate "The End of Sykes-Picot" on 29 June 2014


See here for the significance / interpretation of Triplets 111 to 999


See also: globalresearch.ca - The Oded Yinon Plan for the “Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East



Wiki: Sykes-Picot Agreement

The Sykes–Picot Agreement, officially known as the Asia Minor Agreement, was a secret agreement between the governments of the United Kingdom and France,[1] with the assent of Russia, defining their proposed spheres of influence and control in the Middle East should the Triple Entente succeed in defeating the Ottoman Empire during World War I. The negotiation of the treaty occurred between November 1915 and March 1916.[2] The agreement was concluded on 16 May 1916.[3]


Guardian: Isis announces caliphate in 'declaration of war'

Press Association

Sunday 29 June 2014 22.38 BST

British academic says new statement suggests Isis is now challenging al-Qaida for global leadership of the jihad movement.

The announcement of a formal Islamic state by insurgents in Syria and Iraq is a "declaration of war against the West and al Qaida", an expert has warned. The Islamic State in Iraq and Greater Syria (Isis) group has sought to solidify its leadership of worldwide jihad today by declaring that its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, is the new caliph, or head of state.

Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, a spokesman for the group, called for those living in the area under the group's control in both countries to swear allegiance to Baghdadi.



BiBiC: Isis rebels declare 'Islamic state' in Iraq and Syria

30 June 2014 (Monday)


The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis) announced the establishment of the caliphate in an audio recording posted on the internet on Sunday. ( 29 June 2014 )



Guardian: Isis announces Islamic caliphate in area straddling Iraq and Syria

Mark Tran and Matthew Weaver

Monday 30 June 2014 11.33 BST

Last modified on Tuesday 1 July 2014 16.29 BST

Jihadist group challenges al-Qaida as it changes name to Islamic State and pledges to free Palestine in video

Islamist militants have declared an Islamic "caliphate" in an area straddling Iraq and Syria, trumpeting the declaration in several videos.

One slick video, mostly in English, features a bearded fighter with an AK-47 on his back, explaining the new caliphate.

"This is not the first border we will break, we will break other borders," a jihadist from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis) warned in the video called End of Sykes-Picot, a reference to the agreement between France and Britain that divided up the Ottoman empire territories after the first world war.



Wiki: Unification of Saudi Arabia


Declaration of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was proclaimed on 23 September 1932.


From the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia established on 23 September 1932 to ISIS declared Caliphate on 29 June 2014 is:

INClusive =

= 777 months, 777 weeks and 777 days



Exactly the same as from the British Mandate for Palestine CIF on 29 September 1923 to London 777 Bombings on 7 July 2005

INTerval =

= 777 months, 777 weeks, 777 days

See original post: London 777 - Tube & bus bombings on 7 July 2005


From the Sykes Picot Agreement on 16 May 1916 to ISIS declared Caliphate on 29 June 2014 is:


= 89 years, 89 months, 89 weeks

= P24 years, P24 months, P24 weeks

= P( 8+8+8 ) years, P( 8+8+8 ) months, P( 8+8+8 ) weeks >

888 888 888


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I won't bother answering your rhetorical questions up there ...

I'd suggest that our goal should be to expose the media bs when we see it.
The way we do that is crucial and should be based on evidence, not speculation and opinion.
Basic evidence, like BMD records and the like should be the very least we do.
The thing is felxifelix, endlessly "analysing" media bs can only go so far.

Have you found Jo Cox's Will yet ?
I have.
So why haven't any of you ?
Don't tell me, you're not interested ... or just too busy posting nonsense at the DIF ...

In which case, Mark, I have posted a lot of nonsense in your opinion.

Any government agency can produce a death certificate to order. A tame pathologist or doctor will sign anything. A tame funeral parlour will arrange an empty casket event.
BTW the administration of Jo Cox's estate [November 25, interestingly concluded straight after the trial which took the place of an inquest] seems to have been without a will. Probate is no proof of anything, it just the winding up of a life. i've not seen it, but they rarely show anything interesting, especially if it is a simple administration.
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Jo Cox narrative : The origin of the "Britain First" meme


Hello, my name is Jo Cox, former MP for Batley and Spen.

Among my many concerns was the Israeli slaughter in Gaza during the so-called 2014 Israel–Gaza "conflict"

On June 15, 2015, the same day as my regretful nomination for the Labour Party leadership election, Jeremy Corbyn was nominated, I moved an Early Day Motion in the House of Commons, asking the House to recognise the upcoming first anniversary of the slaughter in Gaza on 8 July 2015.

I can't recall now the reason why 15 June 2015 ended up being the day of my EDM on Israel / Gaza, so you'll have to work that one out for yourself ...

As you know, I was murdered on 16 June 2016.

During the non-trial of my alleged assassin, one of the alleged murder weapons, the knife, was described in court by Mr Horne, as a Fairbairn-Sykes "fighting dagger", a design first made for British special forces and commando units..

One of the co-designers of the Fairbairn-Sykes fighting knife, was Eric Anthony Sykes who died on 12 May 1945

I suppose that it's just a coincidence that I was murdered by a weapon designed by a man who had died precisely :

666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days

before my Early Day Motion on the Israeli slaughter in Gaza.

My husband Brendan, probably spoke to you using the twilight language of the oligarchs, when he said :

"She had very strong political views and I believe she was killed because of those views"

He was right you know.

But they weren't the political views which you have been led to believe ...

Recall : "Thomas Mair's" alleged Fairbairn–Sykes fighting knife and Jo Cox's Early Day Motion on Gaza

Posted here and here


Wikispooks : Jo Cox

Israel critic

Free Speech on Israel (Jews & friends who say anti-zionism is NOT antisemitism) wrote this tribute:

We share the widespread sadness and anger at what appears to be the assassination of Jo Cox MP by a right wing terrorist, and want to express our condolences to her husband Brendan, her children Lejla and Cuillin and her many friends.

The Electronic Intifada,[16] the Council for Arab-British Understanding (CAABU),[17] the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign (PSC),[18] and Medical Aid for Palestinians (MAP)[19] have all published tributes to Cox who was an outspoken advocate for Syrian and Palestinian human rights.

Last year she put down an EDM on Gaza to mark the first anniversary of the 2014 bombing,[20] and she called the Conservative government’s legal threats to curtail the boycott of Israel "a gross attack on democratic freedoms. It is our right to boycott unethical companies.”[21]

[20] "Early Day Motion on Israeli bombardment of Gaza" 15 June 2015

[21] "We mourn and will miss Jo Cox" Free Speech on Israel, 17 June 2016


parliament.uk : Early day motion 126


Session: 2015-16

Date tabled: 15.06.2015

Primary sponsor: Cox, Jo

Sponsors: Durkan, Mark ¦ Meale, Alan ¦ Corbyn, Jeremy ¦ Flello, Robert ¦ Weir, Mike

That this House recognises that 8 July 2015 will be the first anniversary of the start of the most recent and most devastating Israeli military operation in Gaza and resulted in, according to the UN,

more than 2,000 deaths, 1,492 of them civilians and 551 of those, children;

notes that there has been no meaningful reconstruction of Gaza which saw over 100,000 homes destroyed or severely damaged in last year's conflict,

that children in particular have suffered the harshest of conditions

and that no action has been taken to challenge the violations of international law as exemplified by the security wall, the ongoing occupation of the Palestinian territories, or the illegal blockade and separation of Gaza;

calls on the Government to intensify its actions within the international community and towards the Israeli government to resolve the humanitarian and political crisis in Palestine;

further calls for a more direct and stringent message to the Israeli government that progress on talks to reach a long-term and peaceful solution must be delivered within an agreed time frame;

and calls on the Foreign Secretary to prioritise action through the UN Security Council for a meaningful UN resolution in this regard.


I'm now going to tell you how my enemies further used my Early Day Motion on the Israeli slaughter in Gaza, against you all, to tie you up in knots and provide a theme, upon which they built their "Britain First" meme ...

It's very simple.

It should be staring you all in the face really.

"A little bit of googling" and some sound thinking and you'd be there already ...


rationalwiki.org : Britain First

Britain First is a far-right,fascist and British nationalist set of paramilitary thugs masquerading as a political party.

They were formed in 2011 by former members of the equally racist and fascist British National Party.

The party was founded by a former BNP councillor and member of the National Front Paul Golding and Jim Dowson, an anti-abortion campaigner linked to Ulster loyalist militants.

Golding led the party until 2016, when Deputy Leader Jayda Fransen took over the reigns of leadership, in the aftermath of the murder of Jo Cox and under suspicious circumstances.

The party's followers are known as "Biffers" by their opponents, similar to how UKIP's followers are known as racist xenophobes "Kippers".

Britain First campaigns primarily against immigration, multiculturalism and what it sees as the Islamisation of the United Kingdom, and advocates the preservation of traditional British culture, looking back on the good old days when outright racism and segregation was more acceptable.

The group is inspired by Ulster loyalism and has a vigilante wing called the "Britain First Defence Force".

It attracted attention by taking direct action such as protests outside homes of alleged Islamists, and what it describes as "Christian patrols" and "invasions" of British mosques, and has been noted for its online activism.

It has contested elections to the House of Commons, the European Parliament and the mayoralty of London, but has not held any elected posts.

On June 16th 2016, a man shouting "Britain First" shot Labour Party MP Jo Cox, who died soon after. Cox had expressed support for both Syrian refugees and the remain campaign in the EU referendum.

History of the term

The term "Britain First" was used prominently by Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists in Mosley's "Britain First Rally" in 1939, saying that: "This is a demonstration of 'Britain First' and, therefore, is a demonstration of world peace."[17]

It also featured in the masthead of The Blackshirt, a newspaper produced by the Union, and nabbed by the America First Committee, headed by Charles Lindbergh, and more recently by Donald Trump.

Additionally, the BNP website uses the phrase extensively, and the openly neo-Nazi November 9th Society ran under the name "British First Party" until 2010.

In 2016, the neo-Nazi National Alliance member Thomas Mair killed Labour MP Jo Cox – the last MP to be assassinated in public office since 1990 – after shouting "put Britain first" or "Britain first".

Golding was quick to denounce the attackers, unironically saying that you shouldn't judge a group of people by the violence of one man. Needless to say, most people saw the hypocrisy in this defence.

Although the phrase has been used in more moderate right wing circles – in 1970 by Edward Heath discussing British foreign policy goals, the 2010 Conservative document for a proposed British Bill of Rights claiming to "put Britain first" and David Cameron talking about controls on immigration – the use of this phrase in a headline by The Daily Telegraph was criticised by Adam Barnett of Left Foot Forward as a dog whistle for fascists, citing its use in the masthead of The Blackshirt and the modern far-right party.

Interestingly, Britain First tried to register under the name of "Vote British" in the London Mayoral Election, the same slogan openly fascist Oswald Mosley ran under for the General Elections in the late 1930s.

[17] Full speech of rally available online


This paragraph from the above text is revealing for what it omits :

On June 16th 2016, a man shouting "Britain First" shot Labour Party MP Jo Cox, who died soon after. Cox had expressed support for both Syrian refugees and the remain campaign in the EU referendum.

I should add to it :

She also opposed the Israeli slaughter in Gaza and on 15 June 2015 raised an Early Day Motion in the UK House of Commons, as described above.

Jo Cox called the Conservative government’s legal threats to curtail the BDS boycott of Israel "a gross attack on democratic freedoms. It is our right to boycott unethical companies.”


Wikipedia : Oswald Mosley

Sir Oswald Ernald Mosley, 6th Baronet ( 16 November 1896 – 3 December 1980 ) was a British politician.

Achieving political prominence at a very early age, and regarded at one point as a potential Labour Prime Minister, he is remembered principally for his role in the 1930s as the founding leader of the British Union of Fascists (BUF).

After service in the First World War, Mosley was a Member of Parliament for Harrow from 1918 to 1924, first as a Conservative, then an independent, before joining the Labour Party.

He returned to Parliament as Labour MP for Smethwick at a by-election in 1926, and served as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster in the Labour Government of 1929–31.

He resigned due to his disagreement with the Labour Government's unemployment policies.

He then formed the New Party.

He lost his seat at Smethwick in 1931.

The New Party merged with the BUF (which included the Blackshirts ) in 1932.

Mosley was interned in 1940 and the BUF was proscribed.

He was released in 1943, and, politically discredited by his association with fascism, he moved abroad in 1951, spending most of the remainder of his life in France.

He stood for Parliament twice in the postwar era, achieving very little support.



Britain First Rally 1939

Earls Court - "Britain First" Peace Rally - 1939 Britain First

Exhibition Hall, Earls Court, July 16th, 1939

Fellow Britons, tonight the British people are here, (Cheers) and tonight from this great audience will be heard the voice of British people telling Parliament, telling Parties, telling Government something it is time that they should hear. (Cheers.)

This is a demonstration of “Britain First” (Cheers) and, therefore, is a demonstration of world peace. (Cheers.)

This, the greatest gathering of the English under one roof assembled, tells Government and tells the Parties: “At last we have had enough.” (Cheers.)

We are here to tell them there is something for them to do here in Britain, and when they fail to do it, as again and again they have betrayed our people, we, the British people in British Union, will do it for them. (Cheers.)

Enough we have had of alien quarrels, enough threats of foreign war, enough diversion from what matters to the British people, our own land, our own Empire and our own problems. (Cheers.)

We say to the Parties who betray, we say to them here tonight: “When you speak of war we tell you this, if any country in the world attacks Britain or threatens to attack Britain, then every single member of this great audience and of British Union would fight for Britain.” (Cheers.)

But just as straight this too we tell them. We say to the Parties who clamour for war, we fight for Britain, yes, but a million Britons shall never die in your Jews’ quarrel. (Loud Cheers.)

And before you drag a million Englishmen to doom, we of British Union, we, the British people in sacred revolution, will sweep you by the declared will of the British people from the seats of power that you disgrace. (Cheers.)



From Oswald Mosley's Britain First Rally and the first use of the term "Britain First" on 16 July 1939

to Jo Cox's Early Day Motion on Israel / Gaza on 15 June 2015 is :

INClusive =

= 911 months

The Number : 911


See also : Jo Cox : Thomas Mair : "Tune in a TV" : John Logie Biard Robert Schuman and Britain First

See also : "Stood down" MP for Batley and Spen Mike Wood : Israeli Ambassador to the UK Mark Regev

See also : Labour MP Jo Cox murdered : BDS : Israel

See also : Thomas Mair's alleged half brother Duane St Louis : Brillo Pads : Israeli PM - Benjamin Netanyahu

See also : Labour MP Jo Cox murdered : The Mossad

See also : Labour MP Jo Cox murdered : The "SPLC Shipping Receipts"

See also : Labour MP Jo Cox murdered : The Murder of Anna Lindh

See also : Labour MP Jo Cox murdered : Jo Cox MP : Maiden Speech : Adolf Hitler

See also : Princess Bliar & Jo Cox : Maiden House of Commons Speeches

See also : Jo Cox : "Stood down" MP for Batley and Spen Mike Wood : TheOccidentalObserver.net : Kevin MacDonald

See also : Jo Cox : "Stood down" MP for Batley and Spen Mike Wood : Mick Jagger

See also : Labour MP Jo Cox murdered : EU Project : Donald Tusk

See also : Jo Cox : Brendan Cox's Bothy BS.

See also : Jo Cox : Thomas Mair's alleged half brother Duane St Louis : Brillo Pads : Anders Breivik

See also : Thomas Mair and the South African While Liberation Movement - Die Blanke Bevrydingsbeweging (BBB)

Also posted to the Murders & suspicious deaths thread


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Okay, so I've edited the video, and there is no Father Ted cupboard on the video at all now.

Mark: Maybe you would like to give us all a run down of exactly what this Jo Cox murder is all about given we are obviously all missing the point here? Can you do this in a calm nice friendly manner? It does seem to me that if you try to look back from any date where a certain incident occured, you are likely to find 666, 777, 911, 3119, 322, total months, months + weeks +days, inclusive, exclusive relationships to some other event obscurely related. How can we be confident its not a coincidence? Your outbursts have seemed to shut this thread down, which is surely a shame for anyone apart from those who don't want holes poked in this story. Can we please keep it civil, even when we disagree?
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Two videos have been posted by YouTube user Marira

The second one is the uncut version of the crazy theatrical arrest of "Mair". What is highlighted is the odd casually dressed man from about 0.46 [lower video] who ambles from the passenger door of an unmarked black car towards the "arrest" scene only to wander back to the car and get in it again. Marira posits that it is the Tommy Mair who appeared in the dock at the Old Bailey.

Certainly the cheap looking blue jeans might be the same ones seen in the Gentile Jim compilation of a day in the life of Tommy Mair.

It is certainly very odd behaviour in Risedale Avenue. I cannot believe that man is a plain clothes policeman. Marira creditably shows how other footage tries to minimise the presence of that person.

Is it Mair? The only clue comes from his hair pattern [disguised by the various baseball caps elsewhere in his walkabout] He seems to have the same hair pattern as the real [?] Mair but in Risedale Avenue, it seems darker at the back, whereas the Old Bailey and "imprisoned for life" Mair seems to have much greyer hair at the back.

Hair colour no yardstick in any case.

What is absolutely astonishing is that there is not a single curtain twitcher, no door opening, no resident on the street to be seen anywhere in Risedale Avenue during this performance.
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The whole incident lasted about 15 to 20 minutes according to witness Hisham Ben-Abdallah

This statement, reportedly from coffee shop owner Hisham Ben-Abdallah has not completely disappeared from t'interwebs yet. Almost but not quite.

Bizarrely it does not appear in this thread anywhere.

I posted extracts from this Mirror story which does include the statement:

Jo Cox shooting: Schoolgirl saw 'man with binoculars hiding in graveyard as police hunted for suspect'

but did not include the 15 to 20 minutes statement in my post : Thomas Mair : The man with two hats

Mirror : The whole incident lasted about 15 to 20 minutes, Mr Abdallah said. He said another bystander told him Ms Cox had also been stabbed.

Mirror sister paper in Scotland, Daily Record : MP Jo Cox shot and injured: Live updates

Eyewitness: "He was kicking her and he was pulling her by her hair"

The whole incident lasted about 15 to 20 minutes, Mr Abdallah said and another bystander told him she had also been stabbed. He added: ‘’He was kicking her and he was pulling her by her hair. A very courageous man from the dry cleaners tried to restrain him and he couldn’t stop him because all of a sudden he pulled a gun. ‘’She was a standing still target for him when he shot her.’’

Plymouth Herald : Jo Cox MP has died after she was shot by suspect who shouted 'Britain first'

The whole incident lasted about 15 to 20 minutes, Mr Abdallah said. He said another bystander told him Ms Cox had also been stabbed.

Post #71 on page 2 from this NEOGAF forum thread quoted Sky News :

The whole incident lasted about 15 to 20 minutes according to witness Mr Abdallah, and another bystander told him Ms Cox had also been stabbed.

He added: "He was kicking her and he was pulling her by her hair. A very courageous man from the dry cleaners tried to restrain him and he couldn't stop him because all of a sudden he pulled a gun. She was a standing still target for him when he shot her."

Same Sky News URL used as the source at this post grcade.co.uk forum

Note : The Sky News URL above : http://news.sky.com/story/1712952/li...ter-being-shot

Now redirects here : http://news.sky.com/story/live-terro...ation-10315676

zerohedge.com : Brexit Campaigns Suspended After British Lawmaker Shot Dead By Mentally Ill Assailant

The whole incident lasted about 15 to 20 minutes according to witness Mr Abdallah, and another bystander told him Ms Cox had also been stabbed.

Daily Mail : Jo Cox's devastated colleagues break down in tears as Britain unites in grief for murdered MP - as it's revealed police assessed her security after she faced THREE-MONTH barrage of hate-mail

One man said the killer deliberately moved in to finish off the MP, firing a final shot to 'the head area' in a horrific attack that lasted up to 15 minutes.


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I think Hichem Ben Abdallah is referring to the incident lasting 15 minutes beween the alleged attack and the emergency services turning up

The above is the transcript of one of his versions of the incident, this one to Sky News, and Kay Burley with whom he seems overly forward and familiar.

It's interesting because he only describes two shots in this interview and puts the time at a few minutes between dashing for cover inside his "restaurant" next to the library and coming out again when it's clear that "Mair" has wandered off "coolly" in Hichem's words.
He also described the attacker as perhaps 65 70 years old!

The Guardian seemed to have had a special role in the pushing of the "nazi regalia" found in Mair's house, which the newly appointed editor Kath Viner even tweeted herself within 10 minutes of the story appearing at 4:10 PM BST on June 17
Katharine VinerVerified account @KathViner
New: Jo Cox killing: Nazi regalia discovered at house of suspect
8:19 AM - 17 Jun 2016 [4:19 PM BST]
actually the story went
Special police units who searched the house of the man arrested after the killing of MP Jo Cox are believed to have found samples of Nazi regalia and far-right literature.
The Guardian is little more than just another intelligence asset, conning it's often well meaning left liberal readers.

While looking for evidence of a fifteen minute claim, I noticed this post by a one-off poster [!] which suggested things were not all right in the Cox nest.

I looked for evidence of family stuff in the tweets since the report of the alleged misbehavin' incident at Save the Children. Actually there isn't much.

This tweet triggered a short, convivial exchange between the couple **

Jo Cox MPVerified account @Jo_Cox1
Lovely run into Parliament this morning - training for some Scottish #Munro bagging with @MrBrendanCox in May
9:42 AM - 23 Mar 2016 [5:42 PM UTC]
but one finds no evidence of any Scottish jaunt in May 2016 [usually there would be some photographic imagery from the highlands] There are no school holidays in May, apart from the half term break for Cuillin at the end of May.
There is no mention of Scotland in Jo's tweets, or Brendan's for that matter, although he took a break from twitter between May 28 and June 6

**Tweet liked by Matthew Pennycook, MP for Greenwich, yet another of these Oxbridge educated charity sector politcal science graduates.

Matthew Pennycook MP Verified account @mtpennycook
@MrBrendanCox happy birthday mate
1:06 AM - 2 Nov 2012 [9:06 AM UTC]

Matthew Pennycook MP Verified account @mtpennycook
Happy birthday @MrBrendanCox!
2:42 AM - 2 Nov 2013 [10:42 AM UTC]

Matthew Pennycook MP Verified account @mtpennycook
Congratulations @LouHaigh and @Jo_Cox1. Two fantastic new @UKLabour candidates selected at the weekend who will make great MPs in 2015
12:27 AM - 12 May 2014 [8:27 AM BST]
Matthew Pennycook MP Verified account
[email protected] Matthew Pennycook MP Retweeted Brendan Cox
Thoughts are with you and the kids Brendan x
8:05 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [4:05 PM BST]
Matthew Pennycook MP Verified account @mtpennycook
Utterly, utterly devastated that my brilliant, principled and compassionate friend and colleague @Jo_Cox1 has been murdered. Heartbreaking.
9:52 AM - 16 Jun 2016 [5:52 PM BST]
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BiBiC reporting that West Yorkshire police are being assisted by the North East Counter Terrorism Unit ...

and that Nazi regalia has been found in the alleged perp's flat ...

All predicated on the SPLC shipping documents posted earlier.

My research shows that these documents are false.

I'll post the info soon with links.

Where did the BBC get the information? It had been published in the Guardian hours earlier. Their comprehension of the Guardian journalism is admirable.
The BBC understands Nazi regalia was recovered at suspect Tommy Mair's home.
First mention of "nazi regalia" on the 17:43 BBC web cache [it doesn't appear on the 16:31 cache]

Well "understood", BBC
The BBC doesn't seem to have tweeted the "understanding" because it was the Guardian's but they seemed anxious to tweet the Sun's portrayal of this "understanding" later that evening...
BBC News (UK) Verified account @BBCNews
Saturday's Sun front page:
Nazi mania of Jo 'killer'
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers
2:10 PM - 17 Jun 2016 [10:10 PM BST]

Now, why would the BBC do that? Ah, the news of the "nazi regalia" released just in time for the BBC's week ending programme

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An overview of the main reasons for the "specially selected" books, allegedly belonging to Thomas Mair

Thank you felixfelix - some interesting links up there.

And well done for transcribing the Sky News and BiBiC Leeds interviews with Hichem Ben Abdallah. It takes a lot of time and effort to do that so thanks.

The Sky News video at that link does not now contain the interview and the 16 June 2016 web archive capture does not contain any video.

Listening to Hichem Ben Abdallah's accent, especially early on, before he switches into broader Yorkshire mode, leads me to suspect that he may be of French origin, which if true, could be very interesting, given the sublime 3119 day link between the birth dates of Sarkozy and Thomas Mair ...

Sarkozy and the elite EU milieu were and are clearly spitting tacks and are characteristically, full of spite, over coalition Cameron's veto of the new EU treaty back in December 2011 ... which was the beginning of the end ...


The fact that Katharine Viner, Rushbridger's Editor in Chief replacement at the Graun, was quick off the mark with the SPLC's kabbalistic agitprop, is no surprise at all. She is Jewish, allegedly of the self-hating variety ...

I recall back on 31 January 2007 the media feeding frenzy over the UK "beheading plot", when they were warned over possible contempt of court issues. They continue behaving in exactly the same way, with impunity, because it serves the interests of the state, while they rely on the public's right to know argument.

Just Alan's reply Tweet is appropriate here :

Just Alan @brighton_alan 17 Jun 2016

@KathViner read this quick!


I had completely missed headstumper's #494 post so thanks for posting that link !

It was the first of two posts headstumper made on this forum on 18 June - the day of joining and the account is now inactive ...

Following headstumper's links, it would appear that he / she seems quite au fait with the history of the UK nationalist scene, the South African Patriot, Alan Harvey's Springbok Club & his disruptive involvement in the old Swinton Circle and the mention of Arthur Kemp in the context of the murder of Chris Hani ...

headstumper's post, is intriguing, in that it appears to be from that side of the fence rather than the anti-fascist side, as there is no mandatory denouncement of the right and characteristically no overt engagement with the conspiracy thesis, whilst simultaneously adding grist to the conspiracy mill with his / her unlikely thesis about the possible real agenda being to marginalise UKIP by making Brendan's refugee and migrant imperative more acceptable ... to a country which had, in the majority likely voted at least in part, against just that in the referendum!

From headstumper's links and other searches, it appears to be fairly well known that Alan Harvey of the Springbok Club has always been Israel friendly and was / is suspected by some to be a Searchlight mole or some such ...

I suspect headstumper is really just reinforcing the extreme right, neo Nazi narrative here although I also have a strong suspicion that all was not well between Jo and Brendan Cox.

Remember that, prior to NWCTU getting their hands on Thomas Mair's home, all we had to go on as far as Thomas Mair's alleged right wing affiliations are concerned, were the freeze dried and fraudulent SPLC docs and their alleged letters to the Springbok Club.

The Angela Eagle MP ( Jewish husband ), now scrubbed, "Britain First" Tweet and Catharine Viner Tweeting Nazi regalia and the entire subjudice media propaganda, then amplifies this narrative with Mair's alleged 3rd Reich book collection ... a book collection which allegedly included Deborah Lipstadt's Denying the Holocaust, which is just too funny ... literally made me laugh out loud and of course, is in there for the usual reasons ...

Speaking of Thomas Mair's alleged book collection, I have been struggling to identify three of the eight "specially selected" books from this, "specially prepared" image, here for example, from Sky News :

Sky News : Jo Cox trial Man accused of killing MP had Third Reich eagle court hears

I have already deduced the reasons why we are being shown five of these books, but the three green hardbacks were a problem to identify.

One of the books in the "sepecial selection", March of the Titans, is written by Arthur Kemp, who also sells books at Ostara Publications

Recently after a book order payment had failed to return me to the vendor, I emailed Ostara to confirm that the transaction had completed OK. I received a reply from someone called Arthur Kemp and thought no more of it.

Through my travails investigating that "special selection" of Thomas Mair's alleged books, specifically, March of the Titans, I realised that Arthur Kemp the author, was the same Arthur Kemp who had replied to my email from Ostara.

So, as these "specially selected" books are from the same genre, I thought to contact Arthur Kemp at Ostara Publications to ask for help in identifying the three green hardbacks.

This week he replied and very helpfully identified two of the three green hardbacks, for which I am very grateful.

Hurrah at last !

They are :

• The Face of Africa, by Hans Jurgens, 1981

• Classical World: an Atlas of Mankind by R. Peterson 1985

• Modern Europe - author as yet unknown

The two identified titles and presumably the third also, were published by The Institute for Man in Washington DC which was created by the British anthropologist and eugenics advocate, Professor Roger Pearson.


A few of the main reasons why these "specially selected" books have been carefully laid out for us, not to see ...

Professor Roger Pearson's birth precedes Princess Bliar's enoblement of his handler, one Lord Levy, by 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days ...

The same 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days going forward from the birth of Baron Levy, of Mill Hill, lands us on the domain registration of, the White Helmets ...

The publication of the first hardback edition of Dr Peter Knight's, Conspiracy Culture: From Kennedy to The X Files, follows Princess Bliar's entry into politics by a mandatory 911 signature, this time in weeks ...

Connecting to the 3rd Reich meme : Adolf Hitler's Reichsfuhrer SS, Heinrich Himmler, was murdered, 666 months before the same edition of Conspiracy Culture was published.

Author Ron Rosenbaum was born 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days before Brendan Cox, kids & cousins clearly did not stay at the Gwyrne Fawr Bothy ...

The Ron Rosenbaum paperback, Explaining Hitler: The Search for the Origins of His Evil, updated edition was published on the same day that Israel's Operation Protective Edge began in Gaza on 8 July 2014 ... hence one of the main "complaints" against Jo Cox and her Early Day Motion on Gaza ...

8 July 2014 was also, 777 months, 777 weeks, 777 days, after "Britain First", Oswald Mosley, formed his BUF - the British Union of Fascists on 1 October 1932 ...

Recall that the murder of Jo Cox occurred on Enoch "Rivers of Blood" Powell's 104 th birthday.

8 July 2014 also followed Enoch Powell's death by :

666 + 666 + 666
666 + 666 + 666
666 + 666 + 666   days

Recall Thomas Mair's, half brother Duane St Louis' alleged statement about Tommy Mair's alleged OCD and scrubbing himself clean with Brillo Pads and that the incorporation of the Brillo Manufacturing Company of Great Britain, preceded the start of Israel's current PM, Benjamin Netanyahu's second term in office by 666 month, 666 weeks, 666 days ?

Recall also that the first ever UK trademark registered by the UK Brillo Company in 1909, preceded the birth of one of Thomas Mair's alleged internet searches, Anders Breivik, by 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days ?

Well, as stated in that Brillo / Anders Breivik post, the first UK Brillo Company trademark in 1909 was not for the product Brillo Pads, because back then, the soap and wire wool were still separate in the box. Brillo Pads were not trademarked until 1937. All trademark registrations require and record the date that the product was First Advertised.

8 July 2014 also follows the Date of Publication of the First Advert for the first UK trademark UK00000579692, registered for the product, Brillo Pads by :

666 + 666 + 666
666 + 666 + 666   weeks

The publication of the hardback reprint edition of Explaining Hitler: The Search for the Origins of His Evil, follows the registration of one of the beneficiaries of the Jo Cox GoFundMe appeal, the Hope Not Hate Charity by 666 + 666 + 666 days.

Recall that Eric Anthony Sykes, the co-designer of one of the alleged murder weapons, the Fairbairn Sykes fighting knife, died, 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days, before Jo Cox's EDM on Gaza.

Well, the other co-designer of the Fairbairn Sykes fighting knife, William E. Fairbairn, was born 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days, before the author of Death and Deliverance 'Euthanasia' in Germany 1900-1945 and Germany Turns Eastwards: A Study of Ostforschung in the Third Reich, Michael Burleigh was born ...

Recall the, now mostly gone, Cadbury's Flake Killer headlines and that specially framed SOCO photograph published in certain rags ?

The publication date of the hardcover first edition of Michael Burleigh's book Germany Turns Eastwards: A Study of Ostforschung in the Third Reich, followed the birth of Richard Cadbury, who founded Cadbury's Cocoa and Chocolate Company by :

666 + 666 + 666
666 + 666 + 666
666 + 666 + 666
666 + 666 + 666 weeks

And the main reason for Arthur Kemp's book, March of the Titans being included in the "special selection" ?

was because Arthur Kemp was born after an INTerval of :

666 + 666 + 666 days

had passed since the EEC foundation treaty, the Treaty of Rome was signed on 25 March 1957

and because Arthur Kemp was born precisely :

666 666 666    666 666 666    666 666 666
666 666 666    666 666 666    666 666 666
666 666 666    666 666 666    666 666 666   days

or using the preferred 3 x 3 grid thus :

666 + 666 + 666 weeks
666 + 666 + 666
666 + 666 + 666 days

before coalition Cameron vetoed the new EU Treaty, which has, so clearly, upset our former EU friends ...

And so it goes on ...

I'll lay out these and more narrative structures in more detail later ...

See also the post above and links therein : Jo Cox narrative : The origin of the "Britain First" meme

Incidentally :


The start of Israel's most recent slaughter fest in Gaza, Operation Protective Edge followed the end of Operation Cast Lead by :

666 + 666 + 666 days

See also : Murders & Suspicious Deaths thread : Jo Cox : An overview of the main reasons for the "specially selected" books, allegedly belonging to Thomas Mair


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Now I note that Headstumper's links included this one
In the comments, someone called Crosbie was very quickly onto the lacuna in the web archive of SA Patriot, but answer there came none.

Those three scholarly book in olive green covers, probably also unread, look rather odd in that staged photo, Mark. They are all published by the Cliveden Press [the third one is ISBN 0941694313 also by Peterson [perahaps a favourite author of Mair, LOL!]

Perhaps the Coxes were playing happy families on twitter. Why wasn't Jo on the rubber dinghy?
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Now I note that Headstumper's links included this one

In the comments, someone called Crosbie was very quickly onto the lacuna in the web archive of SA Patriot, but answer there came none.

I recall seeing a post in my travels through those links which suggested that the webmaster was posting old documents or some such ..

Originally Posted by felixfelix View Post

Those three scholarly book in olive green covers, probably also unread, look rather odd in that staged photo, Mark. They are all published by the Cliveden Press [the third one is ISBN 0941694313 also by Peterson [ perhaps a favourite author of Mair, LOL!]

It's utterly preposterous I know ...

In this book it is writtten that the Cliveden Press was operated by Roger Pearson, founder of the Northern League, which he was, with a real life member of the Waffen-SS, which is another probable reason why the Waffen-SS is mentioned in the Thomas Mair "library googlings" narrative ...

Here's a piece which mentions Hans Jurgens, author of one of the esoteric green hardbacks, The Face of Africa and Roger Pearson in the context of the Bell Curve "wars" ... and Pearson's neo-eugenicist journal Mankind Quarterly.

Correction : Pearson's organisation that I mentioned earlier from Arthur Kemp's email was the Institute for the Study of Man not the Instiutute of Man.

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Perhaps the Coxes were playing happy families on twitter. Why wasn't Jo on the rubber dinghy?

No idea. It's just a hunch based on his body language outside the Old Bailey, together, apart, from the Cox family.

And of course, my research about his kabbalistic utterances ...


The research on Roger Pearson is fascinating. Deep into the early UK neo Nazi / Fascist / Nationalist scene and then in the US with Willis Carto et al ...

Pearson was also associated with [ Reagan's ] GHW Bush's White House in the 1980's !


Erm, speaking of EU Referendum dinghies and boats on the Thames, that horrible Bob Geldof fits perfectly into the 666 family tree for Arthur Kemp and coalition Cameron's EU treaty veto, which appears to have been causative in the kabbalistic narrative, so I wonder how he became entwined and who asked him to get involved etc ?


From EU Referendum Remain River Thames oik, Bob Geldof born on 5 October 1951

to coalition Cameron vetoed the new EU Treaty on 8 December 2011 is :

INTerval =

= 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 weeks

+ 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 days >

666 666 666
666 666 666
666 666 666

and / or :

= 666 + 666 + 666 weeks
+ 666 + 666 + 666
+ 666 + 666 + 666
+ 666 + 666 + 666
+ 666 + 666 + 666 days

and therefore Geldof's birth precedes Arthur Kemp's birth by an INTerval of ::

= 666 + 666 + 666
+ 666 + 666 + 666 days

Perfect symmetrical kabbalism fitting nice & snug in the 666 line to le veto, which explains both cameos in the script ...

Interesting kabbalistic fact of the day :

The dynamic Jewish duo, Harvey Goldsmith and Geldof's Live Aid on 13 July 1985 followed David Rockefeller's birth by an INClusive :

= 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days

and the Father of Modern Zionism, Theodor Herzl's death by an INClusive :

= 666 months, 666 weeks + 666 weeks

Hence, why it happened on the day it did ...

I wonder where all that cash actually went ?

See also : Barack Obama's alleged long form birth certificate : David Rockefeller


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An interesting read from Larry O'Hara at Notes from the Borderland.

They are a pretty good para-political research team I became aware of when they were critical and overly harsh about the 9/11 Truth Campaign a few years back.

I posted the entire thing because their domain appears to be off line atm ...

Notes From The Borderland



Larry O'Hara 24/10/16

Now the dust has settled from the EU Referendum (albeit those favouring departure have yet to see movement), it is time to look at two different actors in this area. First, a debrief on fascist involvement. Second, the overt and covert influence of the Hope Not Hate organisation (hereafter HNH) is worth study. In that respect this is a companion piece to the article by colleagues Heidi Svenson and Dr Paul Stott in the latest issue (11) of Notes From the Borderland (hereafter NFB) magazine (p.7-18), which explores current HNH strategy, structure, finances and personnel in detail..


Fascists as a whole wanted to exit the EU. The British National Party (BNP) declared after the result they had “achieved one of its founding goals by winning the referendum to take Britain out of the EU…the BNP…helped shift public opinion in favour of getting Britain out of the EU”1. Evidence the BNP won the referendum was not forthcoming. The National Front also wanted to leave, primarily on grounds of opposing immigration2. Even the League of Saint George got in on the act, which was a bit tricky, because back in the day (and even now) they affect belief in Oswald Mosley’s ‘Europe A Nation’ policy. They get round this by claiming ultra-federalists have built an Empire, and in any event “if Britain leaves the EU so could others. Then, together, we can commence the building of, Europe a Nation!”3. Why, exactly, a Europe disintegrating into nation states would harbour enthusiasm for a new European political entity is not explained. It can’t be. Britain First also advocated a Leave referendum vote.

Policy stances taken by obscure (to the general public) fascist groups is one thing; how influential were they on the ground? Before answering it is worthwhile examining just how low the actual membership of fascist groups is today. BNP membership has shrunk so much they now no longer publish membership figures. Last time they did, in 2011, it stood at 7,681, itself down from 10,256 in 20104. In 2011 membership income was £227,813, with 2,709 members paying a reduced rate. Fast-forwarding to the December 2015 accounts , total membership income has now come down to £80,359. This means, other things being equal (and excluding nominal £25,000 life member income), membership can at most be 2,500, and many ‘life members’ have already left. As for the National Front, their December 2015 accounts5 show subscription income as £3,119, meaning a maximum 311 members. The League of Saint George has no actual members as such. The relevance of all this is that the far right have so few activists even should they want to they would not be able to have much effect. The self-declared exception is Britain First, whose leader Paul Golding boasted of mobilising 1.4 million followers when launching their Referendum campaign6. That they have nowhere near this number of followers is indicated by the fact that this Facebook post by Golding had a mere 9 ‘Likes’. He is fooling nobody but himself (perhaps). Britain First’s 2015 Accounts show a maximum membership number of 1,283 (at £30 a throw, total income £38,512).

With too few fascists to make much difference on the ground, there were nonetheless enough to provide fodder for media stories, whether by accident or part-design. The first was the Mail on Sunday’s ‘Far Right in Plot to Hijack Brexit’ 5/6/167. Most prominent here ex-BNP Youth Chairman Mark Collett and his swastika-tattooed girlfriend Eva Van Housen, though ex-BNP veteran Richard Edmonds (now in the National Front) and member Mark Layzell also featured. Collett has a history of shooting in the foot any cause he ostensibly espouses so you cannot entirely rule out his involvement being a ‘put up job’ to discredit the anti-EU cause. The article is significant for the paucity of fascists featured: it was bulked out by English Defence League organiser Andrew Edge, Blood & Honour guitarist Christopher Knight, and the barrel was really scraped by including ex-NF (and Third Way) member Graham Williamson, now an independent councillor in Havering. The only person currently influential within the organised far right mentioned is the veteran Richard Edmonds; all others are either uninfluential or formerly important. The Mail on Sunday carried other articles on fascist involvement too, perhaps part of its vicious war with the pro-Brexit Daily Mail8 . Another key article was the Daily Star the day after Jo Cox was killed: ‘MP Dead After Attack by Brexit Gunman’ (17/6/16) making explicit a tendentious link between the man accused of shooting Cox and Britain First, a phrase one witness seems to think he shouted. Other fascists were involved in the campaign: Jeremy Bedford-Turner of the London Forum, and Alan Harvey of the Springbok Club attended Leave events for example. The question is did fascists hijack or control the campaigns? It does not seem so; no proof of control has ever been offered or indicated. While a woman on the leaked 2006 BNP membership list, Gladys Bramall, gave Vote Leave £600,00010, there is no evidence this bought her any control.

A separate question is whether the vote to leave the EU has led to a rise in ‘hate crime’ and racist incidents (covered below). It is worth remarking that history shows most racist attacks are not carried out by organised fascists. As to whether fascists were influential in getting the Leave vote out and accentuating anti-immigrant feeling, they wished to be, but were too small to have more than a marginal influence. Ironically, their biggest boost came from media stories claiming fascists were already having an impact, which is getting into wilderness of mirrors territory.

Some might say irrespective of influence fascists supporting leaving the EU reflects adversely on that cause. The same might be said of Remain supporter Alan Sugar’s tweet 21/6/16 aimed at redoubtable Labour MP and Leave supporter Gisela Stewart that “I find it strange that Gisela Gschaider a 1974 immigrant from Germany is on the Brexit panel telling us British what we should do”. Indeed, it almost seems a self-evident media truth (trumpeted by Ruth Smeeth MP11 and Nick Cohen12 for example) that Momentum supporters wanting to deselect Labour MPs are anti-Semitic as well as homophobic and misogynist, yet Momentum supporters lined up behind Jeremy Corbyn to support Remain. This characterisation of Momentum supporters is wrong, but I mention it to show alleged racists on both sides. Their presence should not be used to detract from the intrinsic merits of any argument. Furthermore, a small but significant section of Left opinion favoured withdrawal from an anti-racist perspective13.


Any understanding of HNH and the Referendum has to start from HNH Chief Executive Nick Lowles’ track record in this area: issue 4 of NFB magazine showed in great detail how (while working for the Searchlight organisation) he played a key role in encouraging a ‘drip feed’ of pro-EU propaganda into the media, and issue 5 reproduced his memorandum to the European Movement offering that service in full14. The veracity of this document has never been denied, and is the prism through which spurious HNH claims to EU Referendum ‘neutrality’ should be viewed.

HNH claimed ‘Find the Facts’ was a “new neutral mini-site packed with neutrally-sourced information about some of the key topics connected to the EU debate”, to be supplemented “with a series of fun street activities designed to encourage people to think about the issues”15. ‘Find the Facts’ was anything but neutral; the economy section made no mention of the UK’s massive trade deficit with the EU, surely crucial to any tariff negotiations. The section on legislation conveniently states “no-one really has a real figure of how many of our laws are imposed by people in Brussels” and repeats the canard that the EU guarantees paid holidays for workers: yet not only did the UK introduce them in 1937 (!) there are no such guarantees for workers on zero hours contracts. You get the idea: not neutral at all.

What might seem even-handed is not. Take, for instance, massive attempts by HNH to get young voters registered. Would this effort have been made if it were thought young people would vote Leave? I think not: no efforts were made to mobilise older voters in Labour’s heartlands. The organisation assisting HNH, Ben & Jerry’s ice cream, has been criticised for building a factory at Be’er Tuvia, adjacent to the town of Kiryat Malachi, located in the former Palestinian village of Qastina, destroyed by Israeli troops in 1948. So much for Ben & Jerry’s ‘non-partisan social mission’16.

On a lighter note, I must mention Anthony Painter, all-round dullard and HNH director17. The day after the referendum, Painter began making a homebrew which he later proudly tweeted a picture of, named ‘Articale 48’ in homage to the 48% of voters on the losing side18. Had Painter any knowledge of European history (or indeed Nazism specifically) he would know the name is uncomfortably close to Article 48 of the Weimar Republic constitution, which paved the way for the Nazis by allowing rule by Presidential Emergency Decree. Still, we should be grateful Remain didn’t get 18% of the votes, or even worse, 88%! Returning to seriousness, given their partisan stance it is absurd of Lowles to state that “facing” Britain’s decision to leave the EU “will require Hope not Hate and every other progressive organisation to step up their game”19. As we have chronicled extensively in NFB, HNH are not progressive, but a cynical top-down attempt to defuse and incorporate/stifle any genuine grass-roots initiatives20.


Central to HNH’s false claims about neutrality in the Referendum is a pretence Hope Not Hate Ltd “is the registered company through which we deliver our political activity” as opposed to the Hope Not Hate Charitable Trust21. An illusory distinction. On the individual level, Lowles has revealed he went for a drink with the late Jo Cox MP’s husband Brendan, the day he participated (15/6/16) in the pro-EU Thames flotilla organised by millionaire Bob Geldof22.

The next day (16/6/16) Nigel Farage’s launch of his infamous poster seeking to push immigration concerns to the campaign forefront was disrupted by Laurence Durnan with placards bearing the imprint ‘Best For Our Future Limited’. Raheem Kassam and Liam Deacon (on the Breitbart London web-site 16/6/16) correctly pointed out ‘Best for Our Future’ includes Cormac Hollingsworth (HNH Chair of Trustees) as a director. Though their description of HNH as ‘hard left’ is wide of the mark: and they missed the fact Simon Tuttle, another HNH Trustee, is involved, as too Simon Gallant, of HNH’s lawyers Gallant Maxwell23. Simon Tuttle has an overlapping interest with Will Straw (Remain Campaign ‘Stronger in Europe’ Director) and Laurence Durnan: since 27/3/13 Tuttle has been a Director of Political Pixel, run by Straw and Durnan24. This outfit pretentiously describes itself as a ‘left of centre’ ‘digital publishing co-operative’. The involvement of Will Straw makes the label ‘left’ inappropriate: Straw is on the Labour Right, and (like key HNH supporter Ruth Smeeth MP’s husband Michael) an alumni of the shadowy British American Project, aimed at covertly extending US influence on policy-makers in the UK25. He also co-authored a book aiming to copy the electoral methods (and success) of the Obama campaigns, while excluding “the self-destructive indiscipline of…members more likely to see the world through an ideological prism”26. Would this mean Corbynistas? You bet it would. Another non-radical pretending to be otherwise is merchant banker Simon Tuttle, whose specious self-description in ‘Best for Our Future’ documents is ‘community activist’. Only the naïve would be fooled by this crew’s ersatz radicalism: though there are lots about…


Returning to Straw: he is now damaged goods having failed to get elected to the Commons in 2015 and failed again with Remain, but we should not underestimate his callous cynicism. Breathtakingly illustrated by a conference call to supporters 19/6/16, three days after Jo Cox’s murder and four days before the Referendum that “it is now time to…call out the other side for what they have done to stir division and resentment in the UK”, her death being “the new context we’re in”27. The irony of pro-EU Quislings like Straw criticising others in this way has subsequently been illustrated (for example) by virtually every Guardian and Observer newspaper post-Referendum whining about the result and looking desperately for any means to overturn it. Should they succeed, I surmise they will find out what resentment and division are really like.

In their own way, HNH are as cynical as Straw in using her death for their own ends. We have already noted her husband Brendan Cox went drinking with Lowles the day before she died, and was unapologetic about using her death for political purposes, stating a few days later that she died because of her views “and would want to stand up for those in death as much as she did in life”28. Which no doubt explains the shroud-waving Trafalgar Square Jo Cox memorial rally a day before the Referendum vote, clearly intended to influence voters. In this topsy-turvy world, while pro-EU speeches were made from the platform, exception was taken to a plane flying overhead with a ‘Vote Leave’ banner29. Had it been flying a ‘Remain’ banner, then presumably the crowd would have cheered and that would have been alright then? If so, and I am sure that would have been the case, the cynical one-sided nature of this spectacle would have been emphasised rather than merely implicit, as it was.

No surprise, given all the foregoing, that when a crowd-sourcing appeal for funds in memory of Jo Cox was set up 17/6/16 on the site gofundme.com Hope Not Hate were one of three beneficiaries. According to the relevant page30 the fund is not registered as a charity in part because the funds are intended for HNH’s ‘Campaigning Arm’. Truly fortuitous for HNH, because as we have shown in NFB issues 10 and 11, HNH seem to routinely flout rules on political campaigning by charities, indeed the stated purposes monies are given for by such bodies as the Sigrid Rausing Trust seems to bear little relation to how money is actually spent. Within hours of being established the fund raised £210,00031, as of 24/10/16 the figure stands at £1,900,130, of which HNH get a third. Who says mendacity never prospers?


While it might seem tasteless to examine the politics and alleged personal behaviour of Jo Cox’s husband, it is justified for three reasons.

First, he has chosen that HNH receive the crowd-funded money mentioned above, so must take responsibility for that.

Second, the media circus surrounding Jo Cox has produced a situation where death is somehow presented as legitimising her politics; indeed some interventions in the parliamentary debate on Syria (11/10/16) retrospectively treated her views as almost unchallengeable. Yet surely death, however brutal, cannot legitimise views that may be wrong: if it did we might treat Adolf Hitler or Benito Mussolini as if they had anything useful to say. They didn’t!

Third, the beatification of Jo Cox (and by extension her surviving husband) is part of a worrying trend whereby politics are treated in an emotional and saccharine way as though the most important thing is personalities: in contrast I see issues as most vital. I do not remember Tories doing this when Ian Gow and Airey Neave were assassinated by the IRA/INLA respectively. And, to be frank, unlike Jo Cox these (especially Neave) were MPs many in the public had actually heard of before, rather than after, their death.

Brendan Cox is a political animal, sharing his late wife’s naïve optimism. A May 2016 article on refugee policy drew comfort from the fact that “demographic trends are on our side. In almost all countries, young people are more progressive than older people”32. Might I remind him young people (mostly) grow up, and may become reactionary. Sad but true. His politics are as vacuous as HNH, probably why he favours them. Try this for size: “The fight against hatred and division is a defining issue of our time…Activists need to work more effectively—whether with labour unions or the big businesses, religious groups or sports people—to unite institutions that stand for tolerance and diversity into a cohesive block”33. Missing here is any genuine radical project, certainly one that is anti-capitalist or anti-state. Forming a ‘cohesive block’ means foregoing political criticism: a revival for our times of the bankrupt popular frontist politics of the 1930s. Thankfully, the voters of Batley and Spen (Jo Cox’s constituency) did indeed reject the politics of division and hatred that are core to the EU project: the district of Kirklees overall voted 55% to 45% to leave the EU, a higher % than the national 52/48% split. Which shows how out of tune with voters Jo Cox was on this issue (like Labour generally with a few honourable exceptions).

Indefatigable blogger ex-diplomat Craig Murray has drawn attention to Brendan Cox's salary at Save the Children, which on 26/11/14 stood at £106,029. More recently (19/9/16), Murray flagged up a 2015 Mail on Sunday article reporting Cox resigned from Save The Children in September 2015 due to “complaints about him by women members of staff”. According to the article, “Cox strenuously denied any wrongdoing but agreed to leave his post”. Is it routine to resign from such a well-paid post if you see yourself as entirely blameless? The article goes on to quote an ‘insider’ as saying “some people were unhappy there was no proper internal investigation into the allegations. Brendan packed his bags and left suddenly”. Is this what you would expect from an innocent supporter of ‘diversity’? Another individual is quoted as saying “several of the women complained about inappropriate behaviour by Brendan. When the charity did nothing about it they threatened to make a huge fuss. Shortly afterwards it was announced that Brendan was leaving”34. Asked about this article, and the allegations, Save the Children declined to comment35. There may well be nothing untoward here: or there may be. At the very least it is reasonable to surmise the allegations were not investigated (or if they were details have not been revealed), but Cox nonetheless got a lucrative severance package. The thought occurs that were Cox a lower menial employee, his case would have been formally investigated at the very least, with a public outcome. Indeed, from his point of view, if Cox is innocent (and he may well be) you would surely think he might want to remove this cloud of rumour and suspicion hanging over him from this period, would you not? Sadly, we can never know publicly what Jo Cox, who previously worked at Save the Children herself, thought of the allegations.

This affair provides useful ‘context’ (borrowing from Will Straw) to Cox’s response when asked whether he would stand in the by-election triggered by his wife’s death. He touchingly said “No, my only priority at the moment is how I make sure that I protect my family and my kids through this”36. Commendable sentiments, at face value, as too his comment that electing another woman MP would make “beautiful symbolism”. Mystical powers aren’t needed to speculate that maybe the reluctance of this highly political animal to stand might signify a concern that women who (reportedly) complained about “inappropriate behaviour” could surface during the by-election. How beautifully symbolic that might have been…Perhaps fittingly, Labour chose former actress Tracy Brabin to stand, and while she duly won the seat with 86% of the votes on 20/10/16, the turnout, 25.8% was one of the lowest since the Second World War. While not too much should be read into votes for far right candidates (English Democrats 4.8%, BNP 2.7%, NF 0.4%), as no other ‘mainstream' parties were standing, we can at least infer two things from this turnout and voting pattern. One, there are indeed some racists in the constituency. Two, the Jo Cox legacy has not necessarily permeated to her former constituents to the degree it has the Westminster/media bubble.


Inasmuch as #MoreInCommon (hereafter MIC) is no stand-alone organisation but in fact a recruiting drive for Hope Not Hate, some understanding of the latter’s gestation will hopefully illuminate the MIC phenomenon. HNH started in 2004 as a campaign name for the Searchlight organisation, and the HNH web-site was only registered in 200737. As late as 2009 the HNH brand was still firmly under Searchlight control38, before the March 2011 split between Searchlight and what is now Hope Not Hate. This pre-history is relevant because it indicates that there has never been any member control of HNH, as for MIC: it has always been a choreographed top-down initiative. HNH has always reduced internet ‘supporters’ (clicktivists) to what Slovenian Marxist Slavoj Zizek calls ‘interpassive subjects’, carrying out pre-ordained actions (Twittering, uploading photos, ‘sharing’ on Facebook, e-petitions etc.)39. This conceptualisation, seeing apparently active supporters as fundamentally passive can explain the paradox of, for example, the Obama Presidency and preceding campaign. Constructed in large part by Blue State Digital (who have advised HNH from the start40) the campaign mobilised lots of supporters, and raked in lots of cash, but in the end changed very little. Nor was it intended to: the aim was not social transformation, but to get Obama elected and re-elected. That the next US Presidential Election is to be contested between a deeply misogynistic and Neanderthal demagogue like Trump and an equally boorish and foul-mouthed opponent (Clinton) in hock to Wall Street and other interest groups, not to mention a shady past (White water anybody?) proves the political bankruptcy of the whole clicktivist model. As for HNH, immediately preceding its launch they were supposedly in the midst of a ‘Together’ campaign, for which (as analysed in NFB 1141) significant funding had been obtained, with very little to show for it. That the sudden influx of funds used to start up #MIC led to the ‘Together’ campaign sinking immediately without trace tells you what variety of snake oil salesmen (and women) HNH are.


Which brings us to MIC, an apparent attempt to transcend a key HNH weakness: a lack of sustained off-line influence in the ‘real world’ people live in. There are three reasons for the launch of MIC.

The first reason, or perhaps we should call it pretext, is the late Jo Cox MP’s political philosophy. In her 3/6/15 maiden Commons speech, Cox stated her constituents “are far more united and have more in common with each other than things that divide us”. An unexceptional truism: unfortunately in this shallow sound-byte age where Twitter is seen by many as a serious form of communication the slogan complete with hash-tag ‘#MoreInCommon’ has become the name and ostensible founding sentiment of a HNH campaign. At first sight unexceptional, the slogan raises more problems than it resolves. If people already have lots in common, why do you need a campaign? Even conceding people do, should what people have in common be a means of bringing them together? Do not billionaires and refugees have certain basic needs (reference Maslow) in common? So what? Do not people being bombed in Aleppo and elsewhere have lots in common with those bombing them? How helpful is it to stress that to victims? In itself, a slogan like MIC can never be enough to organise a campaign of any salience around, and of course it isn’t: merely a hook to draw people in.

The second reason behind setting up MIC is more parochial, to do with HNH themselves. It is my understanding the Jo Cox appeal money came at just the right time for HNH, concerned about possible investigation by the Charity Commission for contravening rules on political campaigning. Which is why they increasingly stress the difference between Hope Not Hate Limited and the Hope Not Hate Charitable Trust. Despite the fact they are run from the same address in a leafy London suburb, mail goes to the same office, and their activities are barely differentiated, the fiction is that the two are separate. HNH hope the Cox money will muddy the waters here, though as we have mentioned before and continue so to do42 virtually all HNH’s interventions are political. Because they are no threat to the system, they have hitherto been allowed to get away with it. Others are not so fortunate: the Badger Trust for instance (and the RSPCA for supporting them) has been relentlessly pursued (one might even say hunted) by the Charity Commission43. Clearly Badgers matter less as endangered species than serial grant-applicators.

The third ostensible reason for MIC being founded is as an attempt to come to terms with the 23/6/16 Brexit Referendum victory aftermath. I say victory, but we have already seen that for Lowles and Hollingsworth/Tuttle the result was a defeat. The magazine given to MIC supporters states “after this year’s EU referendum we have launched our new #MoreInCommon campaign to unite our divided communities. The Brexit vote has divided families and communities as never before and the result was seen, by a small minority, as a green light for racist abuse and violence”44. Accepting, for the sake of argument, there has been such abuse, this second justification for setting up MIC shows HNH as clearly in the camp of disappointed losers (of the Referendum), stating “however divided Britain might appear now things could get a lot worse as the country negotiates its split from the EU”45. Not only is this straying into politically contested and controversial territory, such doom-mongering markedly contrasts with HNH’s habitual manic positivity.

This point is worth dwelling on. HNH surveys have noted that a lot of working class people who voted for Brexit think that it will lead to an improvement in the UKs economic prospects. To use HNH’s perjorative terminology, 55% of ‘Latent Hostiles’ think this, and 49% of the Active Enmity Group46. At this point, HNH’s partisan prejudice over the EU kicks in: Lowles and HNH generally have deliberately ignored, or misrepresented, the intentions of Leave voters.

For a start, they do not mention the poll conducted on the day of the Referendum by Lord Ashcroft canvassing the views of 12,369 voters, more than three times as many as HNH questioned. Ashcroft found that the largest group (49%) voted Leave over issues of national sovereignty, indeed a further 13% voted Leave because of fear that remaining would lead to the UK being unable to limit further EU expansion, including of its powers. Aside from 6% who believed the UK would benefit economically, this leaves 33% who voted Leave to regain control over immigration and our national borders47. While some will undoubtedly be racist, inasmuch as many countries (Russia/China/Australia for example) have immigration controls that aren’t necessarily racist, the exact percentage is difficult to determine.

HNH’s own poll was carried out by Populus in the week after the Referendum, with 4,035 people in England surveyed. Lowles tells us “people who voted to Remain in the EU overwhelmingly believed the Leave campaign ran a racist and anti-immigrant campaign. Leave voters unsurprisingly had the opposite view”48. Yet perhaps Leave voters motivated primarily by racism might welcome the description of themselves as anti-immigrant? The problem for Lowles is that his own survey shows motivations close to the Ashcroft poll results: 45% voting Leave because they want sovereignty over decision making, and 35% citing “controlling immigration”. His explanation is ingenious, relating it to the Jo Cox murder: “perhaps, our pollsters have argued, it suddenly became unacceptable…to publicly articulate views that might have motivated Jo Cox’s killer”. So there you have it: respondents who didn’t cite immigration (even less race) as motivations were “perhaps” concealing their real views. One certainty, no ‘perhaps’ about it, is that HNH/Lowles concealed their real views by presenting themselves as honest brokers.


The HNH survey has 62% of people saying there is rising tension as a result of the Referendum, and there may be. But we need to stop and reflect here: an incessant post-Referendum barrage by sore losers like the BBC/Guardian/Channel 4/most MPs has argued that divisions have increased, along with racist attacks. Any fule knows that the minute the media start reporting something the apparent incidence goes up: what sociologists call a ‘moral panic’. While there may be increased divisions, they either might not be the kind of division HNH acknowledge, or be divisions that people think are happening because the media tell them it is. In this respect, the media scouring the country for racist incidents (and there have obviously been some) may well have magnified the problem by reporting on it, indeed emboldened racists to act.

Immediately after the referendum (29/6/16) the police had a big push to increase reporting of ‘hate crimes’ to either 101 or their True Vision web-site49. This followed an earlier (pre-referendum) initiative from the EU’s ‘Fundamental Rights Agency’ 28/4/16. The relevant minister in charge of ‘hate crime’ matters around the referendum period was Karen Bradley, who explicitly declared in a Commons statement a “desire to increase the reporting of hate incidents and crimes”, echoing then-PM David Cameron’s wish to “boost reporting of hate crime”50. As we all know (or should) increased reporting of a crime does not necessarily mean an increased incidence of such, but merely…increased reporting. Of interest on the True Vision web-site (report-it.org.uk) is that those reporting incidents do not have to give their details: in which case there is no check at all on bogus reporting. Another anomaly is that a racist attack by say an East European, or an ethnic minority member on anybody, will show up in the overall statistics, allowing those with a media/political axe to grind to add them to a litany of pro-Brexit hate crime. Furthermore, the site speaks of both hate crimes and ‘incidents’, with people encouraged to report both. Fair enough in a way, but all this does not produce an established factual basis for informed public debate.

Another way of unpicking this is to look at the Dispatches programme ‘Racist Britain’ screened 11/7/1651. This programme did not seem to distinguish properly between crimes and incidents, arguing there had been a 400% rise in hate crime reporting in the week following the referendum. Which is rather intriguing: because official police data for that period now available (and True Vision was featured favourably in the documentary so the programme-makers cannot claim ignorance) showed only week on week rises (comparing year to year) of 46% in week 1, 27% in week 2 and 35% in week 352. With such an unpromising start statistically, the programme continued in a similar misleading vein, referring to (and showing footage of) racist incidents such as a mosque attack or abuse on a train that had nothing to do with the Referendum. To try and give themselves some gravitas, the show used Carl Miller of Demos who argued that in the week post-Referendum there were “more than 13,000 tweets that used terms that could be seen as xenophobic and racist”. Leaving to one side the hesitant words ‘could be’, and even accepting this was true (which it may be), how does this measure up to the fact that (according to Demos themselves) in the week following the (March 2016) Brussels bomb attacks “Demos identified and captured almost 60,000 tweets from people in Britain using words that could be seen as Islamophobic”. Again leaving aside the phrase ‘could be’, this tells us that using their own criteria the Brussels attacks generated over four and a half times more nasty tweets than the referendum. As it happens, Nazir Afsal (till recently a CPS Chief Prosecutor) rather deviated from the script when he said that many of the 13,000 post-referendum tweets may have been nasty, but were not criminal. Or maybe he didn’t: I imagine the programme-makers favour a massive extension of what is defined as ‘criminal’. They could then do follow up documentaries on prisons full of racists..

In any event there is a post-script to all this, that you will not hear from media Bremoaners, including Hope Not Hate. On 13/10/16 the National Police Chief’s Council released data for the period June-August 2016, and Hate Crime lead, Assistant Chief Constable Mark Hamilton, said “we have seen continued decreases in reports of hate crimes to forces and these reports have now returned to formerly seen levels for 2016”. Not 2015, note: because between 2015 and 2016 there has been (irrespective of the Referendum) an increase in reporting of all hate crimes: consistent with ongoing changes to encourage reporting as discussed.

The foregoing should not be taken to mean I deny the importance of racism and other kinds of prejudice: which is exactly the point. Racism, misogyny homophobia and such-like pre-existed the EU Referendum, have not been caused by the result, and in some cases (e.g. homophobia) it is difficult to find any conceivable connection. Certainly, enduring means need to be found to tackle these prejudices: suffice to say they do not include scenarios painting all working class Brexit supporters as racist. In that respect I have sympathy with the stinging article by Brendan O’Neill stating recently that “the true story here is not that Britain became more hateful post-referendum, but that officialdom, aided by spectacularly uncritical commentators, has developed new ways of cynically constructing crime epidemics”53. If you think that overstated, consider this story that few of you will have heard of, but surely would had the political affiliations been reversed. “Brexiter Duncan Keating, 58, was hit with a parasol, thumped repeatedly, and threatened he would be set alight in an attack at a retirement complex just days after the result. Six hours after being beaten up by neighbour and Remain supporter Graham Dunn in their communal garden, Leave voter Mr Keating was found dead in his room….the cause of death was given as positional asphyxiation”54. Certainly, the victim had been drinking and taking drugs, but hand on heart: do you not think if the victim had been a Remain supporter he would now (like Jo Cox) be a household name, his sad death yet another example of Brexiter prejudice?

There is of course a division, we might say chasm, the Referendum has revealed; between many MPs and those they supposedly represent. This division HNH doesn’t want to acknowledge, indeed to divert our attention from, but the rest of us need not be so coy.


Leaving aside my caveats about ‘divisions’ even if you accept there are divisions it might be useful to bridge (such as between ethnic groups and communities) MIC is far more than that: it is a targeted campaign aimed at politically neutralising and suppressing mainly working class voters who want to leave the EU. I say this with confidence based on two things: MICs operating assumptions, and its actual methodology.

Operating Assumption 1

HNH treat it as fact that Brexit will lead to economic problems. As Lowles put it “a hard Brexit, curtailing access to the Single Market, will have a disastrous impact on the local economies in many working class communities that are reliant on trade with the EU”55. Again leaving aside the UK trade deficit with the EU, this perspective also assumes there is no direct state intervention to rebuild local economies. That may not be the Tory aim (it certainly isn't), but those on the Left supporting Brexit see this as a more worthwhile goal than doom-mongering. In other words, what HNH/MIC see as a problem, others see as an opportunity. Yet they are so little interested in the positive that they ignore this. The point isn't, actually, just whether the prediction is correct--it is that it is a politically partisan one, animated by an ideological position on the EU, which is not admitted up-front. My own views are clear: but then I'm not running a scam pretending neutrality, like HNH.

Operating Assumption 2

Not content with a garbled foray into economic theory, HNH have a negative prognosis of future changes in attitudes. Lowles claims that while 55% of the ‘Latent Hostiles’ and 49% of the ‘Active Enmity’ tribe are optimistic about the economy post-Brexit, their optimism is misplaced (Operating Assumption 1). In that respect MIC is a pre-emptive strategy to contain future pessimism by such groups. As he put it, when economic fortunes don’t improve “these voters will be very angry and let down and they will be looking for someone to blame. So we must be ready and our #MoreInCommon campaign is the perfect way to start”56.

Again we see not only do HNH have a highly negative view of Leave voters, assuming they will scapegoat others (rather than focus on those really responsible), there is no consideration that should things not work out that may be due to politicians, multinationals, sabotage by civil servants and so on. Again, HNH do not want to draw attention to these fault-lines, as this undermines their whole political project of pacification.

MIC Methodology

Getting down to brass tacks, far from being a positive campaign of hope, HNH/MIC are instead a controlling campaign based on highly demeaning stereotypes regarding working class Leave voters. What terrifies HNH is such communities attempting to take control of their lives in a way that might undermine the local state and political establishment.

(1) Preventing demonstrations

Traditionally, anti-fascists have taken on fascists physically, most notably at Cable Street in 1936 but also Lewisham in 1977 for example. In both cases, police were (legitimately) in the firing line. Outrageously, HNH seek to present themselves as within this tradition. A pamphlet co-written by Steven Silver and David Emmett claims “today, HNH draws from the anti-fascist lineage of Cable Street and seeks to unite all those opposed to the politics of hate”57. An allied blog stated “today the barricades of Cable Street have become icons of communal resistance in defiance of fascist provocation”58. How can this attempt to recuperate the history of physical force anti-fascism be reconciled with this MIC claim that “faced with threats from the English Defence League (EDL) and other far-right demonstrations…preferring positive and peaceful community engagement to counter-demonstrations, we have sought to unite people around what they have in common and have used the threat of extremist demonstrations to get people to think about the type of community that they want to live in”59. The short answer is it cannot. But we can see the HNH/MIC method: diverting communities from defending themselves (as at Cable Street), and of course if people aren’t defending themselves then they must rely on the police. Which assumes that the police are neutral and not part of the problem (as they can be).

(2) De-mobilising political opposition

Not content with preventing community self-defence, the HNH/MIC ‘pacification programme’ is at times blatant. Politics is replaced by a kind of controlled therapeutic intervention designed to change individual attitudes not power structures. Speaking of the September 2016 Hope camp, trainer John Page referred to “an approach we explored…a combination of listening carefully to find what the real underlying concerns are and exploring with people their different views to encourage re-evaluation”60. In other words, re-programming: elsewhere Page revealingly talked of a mixture of “empathetic listening and Socratic questioning”61. Socratic questioning is actually a false stilted dialogue, whereby the questioner draws their companion into agreeing to certain propositions without any genuine (contested) communication.

In case you think this allegation of political demobilisation exaggerated, consider this aspiration for target areas adumbrated by Page: “our aim is that in a year or two in these areas while people will still say they are angry about their children’s often substandard education, the pressures on the NHS, the lack of proper jobs, poor housing conditions etc., rather than blaming scapegoats they will be saying ‘we need to bring our whole community together and convince those with power that they need to say ‘yes’ to measures improving our communities even when they would prefer to say no”62. Why should people have to wait one or two years? It is ludicrous to imply that blaming scapegoats is the only alternative to such quietism—which can truly be described as ‘participation without politics’. What about direct action against the powers-that-be? Not in HNH's playbook, that would be 'extremist'.

Sadly, such demobilisation is not unique today: for example veteran Momentum activist Tony Greenstein has said “it is a phone bank organisation that organises large rallies…at the moment, Momentum sees its role as holding the Left back not mobilising it. It acts as Corbyn’s cheerleader, fostering a cult of personality”63. HNH is no copy of that, merely similar in terms of no democracy. Also Nick Lowles would need to develop a personality first…

An important selling-point for HNH is its ‘anti-extremism’ and of course properly considered, within that anything that mobilises communities against the state and capital is ‘extremist’.

Thankfully, the whole HNH incorporationist project does not in any fundamental and enduring sense capture the imagination. For example, while well able to galvanise numbers for one-off events, they have never sunk real roots, despite the appearance of doing so. Their very strength, the accumulation of clicktivists, is also a weakness. In 2011 for example, HNH claimed to have “an activist base of 4,000 people”64. Yet as we have shown in NFB through detailed analysis, their activity on the ground has been paltry. At best, the adherence they secure is episodic, transient and demanding little. Graphically (if unintentionally) illustrated by Jemma Levene’s account of the Manchester MIC launch meeting posted 13/7/16: “almost 40 people attended a lively meeting…All but two of those attending were new to HNH”. Yet this, remember, is in the third largest city in England: a mere two people were (at best) remaining locally from what should surely have been a good segment of the supposed phalanx of 4,000 dating back to 2011. Looking at the various MIC reports on the Hope Not Hate web-site, as of 24/10/16 the most recent is 6/8/16. Reading through them all, lots of ‘soft’ initiatives like picnics/stalls/music and so on, but little to fire the imagination. And nothing at all indicating positive strategic community engagement with Brexit opportunities. No surprise there then. That said, HNH are good at monetising everything, seeking more funds for themselves. Not surprising given they have no transformative political project. This was noticed by one Hackney resident (Moritz Steiger) who commented of an August street party in Well Street (where they got 50% of cash collected that day of course) that it “in the final analysis was for the benefit of the new bars and cafes on the street”. He contrasted this with no mention being made of a local bike workshop servicing kid’s bikes for free that the council had shut down65.

As stated, the above is a companion piece to the more detailed analyses in NFB issues 10 and 11 (and the prehistory outlined in issue 9). Those interested should visit our shop and purchase them, if you want to see some points merely alluded to above fleshed out in substantial (and as yet unanswered) detail. Some extracts and further information are elsewhere on this site, but we do not believe the internet can (or should) entirely replace the written word..

We are now though, nonetheless, in a position to enumerate what is wrong with MIC/HNH

1) It is fundamentally undemocratic, based not on sovereign member participation but the ‘franchise’ model of politics
2) The activities urged are choreographed and no challenge to the existing order: indeed they are not intended to be.
3) The ‘anti-extremist’ basis of the model is politically and philosophically bankrupt.
4) #MIC is at best an attempt to undermine the Brexit vote result by stressing the negative aspects
5) There is at root a deeply patronising and dismissive attitude towards working class voters who in the Referendum told both the EU and established leaders (especially Labour) to ‘do one’.
6) Residents who get involved in HNH/#MIC will find themselves getting drawn away from fighting for their rights, and drawn into endless consultations with those who want to incorporate them into the local political system and thereby pacify them.
7) Fundamentally, HNH/#MIC is a money-making scam for those involved, and a diversion from genuinely autonomous street-oriented class politics. Which is no surprise as that is what it has always been from the start.


1) British Nationalist (BNP) September 2016 p.1-2
2) The Flame (National Front) issue 45 May/June 2016 p.4
3) Special Supplement to League Sentinel issue 106 Spring 2016 p.2, League Sentinel 107 Summer 2016 p.3 has more in the same vein.
4) Information from electoralcommission.org web-site
5) Published 3/8/16, submitted 7/7/16
6) ‘Britain First Launches EU Referendum Campaign’ 23/5/16 britainfirst.org
7) Simon Walters/Glen Owen/Paul Cahalan, see follow-up on Van Housen by Simon Walters 19/6/16
8) Simon Walters/Glen Owen/Jaber Mohamed ‘Brexit link to Mair racists’ Mail on Sunday 19/6/16
9) Searchlight 466 Autumn 2016 p.14-15
10) The Times 22/6/16 (Henry Zeffman)
11) Interviewed in London Evening Standard 20/9/16
12) The Observer 2/10/16
13) See http://leftleave.org and also Joseph Choonara ‘The EU: A left case for exit’ (Socialist Worker pamphlet 2016), ‘EU Referendum: The socialist case for exit’ (Socialist Party 2016)
14) Notes From the Borderland issue 4 p.11-13/16-21 especially, and NFB issue 5 p.53-54 reproduces the Lowles Memorandum
15) #MoreInCommon Meeting Update on Hope Not Hate web-site 10/6/16 (Jemma Levene)
16) Palestine News (Palestine Solidarity Campaign) Spring 2013 p.25
17) See Notes From the Borderland issue 10 p.44-46 for details, also NFB 11 p.7-8 for an update.
18) anthonypainter on twitter.com 10/7/16
19) Hope Not Hate May/August 2016 p.3
20) Notes From the Borderland issue 9 p.9/11 outlines the de-radicalising franchise model copied from the Obama campaign, NFB issue 10 p.54-55/62-3 develops the critique, also see NFB 11 p.10-11
21) Quote from Hope Not Hate general leaflet, distributed July 2016
22) ‘The Language of Hate Has No Place In Politics’ (Nick Lowles) Opinion Piece Newsweek Europe 17/6/16
23) Companies House Director information regarding ‘Best For Our Future Ltd’ Company number 10164553, accessed 25/8/16.
24) Companies House Director Information accessed 1/8/16.
25) See Tom Easton ‘The British American Project for the Successor Generation’ Lobster 33 Summer 1997 p.10-14, ‘Friends in High Places’ The Guardian 6/11/04 (Andy Beckett). On Smeeth see NFB issue 10 p.38-39, issue 11 p.8-9
26) ‘The Change We Need’ (co-authored with Nick Anstead) Fabian Society 2009 p.96/98
27) Referenced in order-order.com 20/6/16, which refers to a tape-recording of the relevant conference call by Straw. In the London Evening Standard (22/6/16 Richard Godwin) Straw flatly denied he had made this connection, and the reporter (a friend) didn’t probe him further. He should have. Suspicion Straw has something to hide here is fuelled by the diary account of Cameron’s spin doctor Craig Oliver (‘Unleashing Demons: The Inside Story of Brexit’ Hodder & Stoughton 2016), who admits to discussing the death with Straw, but then claims “the overwhelming sense is that we must not allow anyone to politicise her death” (p.332). After then recounting how he and Cameron in effect sought to do precisely that (p.333-39), the dog that didn’t bark is Oliver’s detailed account makes no mention whatsoever of the Trafalgar Square rally, at which Brendan Cox spoke.
28) Quoted in the Independent on-line 21/6/16 (Adam Withnall)
29) Independent on-line 22/6/16 (Lizzie Dearden)
30) www.gofundme.com/jocox
31) The Times 18/6/16 (Nicola Woodcock)
32) ‘Why the Populist right is winning the refugee debate’ World Economic Forum paper 20/5/16
33) New York Times op-ed piece Brendan Cox 23/9/16
34) Mail On Sunday 1/11/15 (Simon Walters)
35) Thirdsector.co.uk 2/11/15 (Andy Ricketts)
36) Independent on-line 21/6/16 (Adam Withnall)
37) See NFB 9 p.8 on this
38) See NFB 10 p.34-80 on all of this, and time-line on this site: put Hope Not Hate vs Searchlight timeline’ in the internal search engine.
39) Slavoj Zizek ‘The Interpassive Subject’ theenlightenedworld.org 25/6/09
40) NFB 10 p.64 gives details, NFB 11 p.8 updates
41) NFB 11 p.14-15
42) NFB 11 p.14-15
43) Dominic Dyer ‘Badgered to Death’ Canbury Press 2016 p.14/16/101-2
44) #MoreInCommon magazine Summer 2016 p.5
45) #MoreInCommon magazine Summer 2016 p.5
46) Hope Not Hate September/October 2016 p.13 (Nick Lowles)
47) See lordashcroftpolls.com 24/6/16 on the EU Referendum
48) ‘Fear and Hope Three’ (Nick Lowles) hopenothate.org.uk
49) National Police Chief’s blog 27/6/16
50) Both quoted in ‘Government unveils new ‘action plan’ to stamp out hate crime’ politics home.com 29/6/16 (Josh May)
51) Producer Bushra Siddiq, Reporter Seyi Rhodes, Director Ben Ryder, Executive Producer Lucie Kon, for a lot of detail see News Release on channel4.com 11/7/16
52) Hate Crime data for July-August 2016 available from report-it.org.uk
53) ‘It’s time to shoot down the post-Brexit hate-crime hysteria’ spiked.com 14/10/16 (Brendan O’Neill)
54) Manchester Evening News 14/10/16 (Chris Osuh)
55) Hope Not Hate September/October 2016 p.13 (Nick Lowles)
56) ‘How the EU Referendum has divided Britain’ HNH email to supporters 19/7/16
57) cablestreet.co.uk on-line 4/10/16
58) Hopenothate.org.uk blog-post by David Emmett 4/10/16
59) #MoreInCommon Summer 2016 p.4
60) Hope Not Hate September/October 2016 p.6 (John Page)
61) Quoted in ‘Labour Conference: how to win back UKIP voters?’ BBC on-line 26/9/16 (Gavin Stamp)
62) Hope Not Hate September/October 2016 p.15 (John Page)
63) ‘Winning the Battle But Losing the War’ 30/8/16 (Tony Greenstein) azvas.blogspot.co.uk
64) The Great British Party briefing paper 2011 p.3
65) Hackney Gazette letter 11/8/16


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It's utterly preposterous I know ...

In this book it is writtten that the Cliveden Press was operated by Roger Pearson, founder of the Northern League, which he was, with a real life member of the Waffen-SS, which is another probable reason why the Waffen-SS is mentioned in the Thomas Mair "library googlings" narrative ...

Here's a piece which mentions Hans Jurgens, author of one of the esoteric green hardbacks, The Face of Africa and Roger Pearson in the context of the Bell Curve "wars" ... and Pearson's neo-eugenicist journal Mankind Quarterly.

Correction : Pearson's organisation that I mentioned earlier from Arthur Kemp's email was the Institute for the Study of Man not the Instiutute of Man.

Fascinating, Mark, fascinating. Very scholarly stuff, it doesn't look at all like Tommy's cup of tea. The other "Cliveden set"... It's obviously a big intelligence leg pull, or inside joke, that book collection "of Mair".

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Jo Cox : Events of 15 June 2016, narrative jokes, the tall Thomas Mair, John Logie Baird and Donald Trump

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Fascinating, Mark, fascinating. Very scholarly stuff, it doesn't look at all like Tommy's cup of tea. The other "Cliveden set"... It's obviously a big intelligence leg pull, or inside joke, that book collection "of Mair".

I do think that there are elements of humour built into these narratives but I don't consider that to be the reason why these books have been included.

I have proved to my satisfaction that those books were specially selected because they form part of the structure of the narrative, just as I illustrate.

Everything that we are shown which is false in these narratives is done for the same reasons.

An obvious joke for me in this Jo Cox case were the reports of PC Craig Nicholls seeing "Loose Change" fall from Thomas Mair's pockets, a claim he repeated at the Old Bailey.

That's in there as an allegorical joke imo, and evidently, for the usual kabbalistic reasons too.

The reference to Mair "tuning in his Mum's TV" on 15 June 2016, the day before the event in Birstall , imo is to be interpreted as I've stated before, as a reference to John Logie Baird and the digital terrestrial TV switchover ...

15 June 2016 was quite a busy narrative day ...

Thomas Mair reportedly visited Birstall library to search once again for the occidentalobserver.net and "various websites on far right politicians, Klu Klux Klan members and the Nazi Waffen-SS" ...

He also went round to Mum's to "tune in her TV", reportedly, according to his half brother Duane St Louis, he of the alleged Brillo Pads quote ...

According to Rebecca Walker, the owner / manager of the Birstall Wellbeing Centre, a "casually dressed and quite tall" Thomas Mair turned up there at 6.30 pm on June 15, "looking for alternative therapies for his depression" and after a chat, was told to come back the next day.

I'm puzzled why a chap who does not work and who is therefore presumably without the means to pay for private reflexology, crystal readings or angelic workshops and who has lived in the town since childhood, would turn up at 6.30 in the evening, at a non NHS "Mind Body and Soul" centre, which he must have been aware of all these years walking around Birstall town centre, to discuss alternative therapies to assist in the "treatment of his depression" ... the night before he allegedly commits bloody murder ...

It is not reported how Rebecca Walker knew it was "Thomas Mair" so I assume whomever it was, gave his full name and / or she later recognised him from media reports. This "tall Thomas Mair" would fit the doppelganger thesis, but I suspect does not fit too well with the real Thomas Mair from Birstall.

Meanwhile back in Wapping, Jo Cox was reportedly hosting a party aboard the houseboat, for all the new 2015 Labour MPs, while Brendan and two children and a woman were in a dinghie on the Thames as part of Bob "give us you ferking money" Geldof's EU Referendum Remain flotilla, where the honorary KBE took the opportunity to abuse Nigel Farage in the BREXIT flotilla and folk who used to be able to make their living catching fish in UK waters ...

Nice man ... "Hope Not Hate" anyone ?

There's plenty of evidence linking John Logie Baird and the digital TV switchover into this narrative structure, with one other unforeseen and fascinating ickle factoid being that, John Logie Baird died on the same day that Donald Trump was born ...


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Jo Cox and hate mail

I was alerted to the alleged receipt of hate mail over a three month period in the eulogy from Hope Not Hate's supremo, Nick Lowles

17:52 June 17 2016
and reprinted in Newsweek shortly afterwards

That's funny, I didn't notice that before, or see it being quoted on this thread.
There is much speculation about Jo’s killer, Tommy Mair, 52, who shot and stabbed her multiple times outside a constituency meeting in Birstall, near Leeds. That Jo had received hate mail in the months before her death; that police were (apparently) considering offering her protection.
There's no speculation on twitter, or other media outlets until.....
June 17 2016 12:01 AM BST
Police were poised to put extra security in place for Jo Cox when she became the first British MP to be murdered in more than 25 years.

Mrs Cox, 41, who was shot and stabbed repeatedly by a man who allegedly shouted “put Britain first”, had been harassed in a stream of messages over three months. Additional security was being considered at her constituency surgery in Birstall, West Yorkshire, where the attack took place, as well as at her houseboat in London. There is no known link between the messages and yesterday’s attack.
and repeated in the Huffington Post and Mail.

There is no evidence for this whatsoever, or any tweets from Jo to support the "intelligence", or indeed what form the "messages" took. But
[quote]Police have confirmed it...
Her death comes three months after a man was cautioned for sending her ‘malicious communications’.
Police have since confirmed the abuse messages were not the same man who was arrested on Thursday following the attack.
Did they now?

10:45 PM BST June 16 2016
GrumpyDenier 52% [email protected] 16 Jun 2016 [10:59 PM]
@SkyNews @johnmknox Where will they bury the retraction of the 'Britain First' lie? On page 20, right at the bottom of the page, no doubt.

anthony m bradley [email protected]_am 16 Jun 2016 [11:01 PM]
@SkyNews this newspaper should be blasted for publishing untruths at this sad time and made to retract. The MP is a disgrace, deleted tweet.

jim mc doo [email protected] 16 Jun 2016 [10:56 PM
@SkyNews Locals Report Man Arrested Wouldn't Hurt A Fly.
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Jo Cox funeral : Donald Trump


BBC : Jo Cox: Funeral takes place in Batley and Spen constituency

15 July 2016 Leeds & West Yorkshire

Hundreds of people lined the streets to pay their respects to MP Jo Cox who was shot and stabbed to death last month.

A private funeral service was held earlier for close family and friends in her West Yorkshire constituency.

People applauded and threw flowers as the cortege passed slowly through Heckmondwike and Batley.



From Donald Trump born on 14 June 1946

to Jo Cox's funeral on 15 July 2016 is :

INClusive =

= 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days

See also : US Presidential candidate Donald Trump and his VP candidate Mike Pence

Murders & Suspicious Deaths thread : Jo Cox funeral : Donald Trump


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The marriage of Jo Leadbeater & Brendan Cox

I posted earlier that I had located the marriage certificate for Jo Leadbeater and Brendan Cox at the ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk BMD website and had ordered a copy certificate.

Until today I saw no reason to post any of these personal details, even though upon receipt, I noticed an anomaly between the date on the certificate and the date posted to the Facebook account.

Today I realised that there is something else about the date of the marriage that I consider to be entirely relevant and significant, so have decided to post sufficient detail from the certificate for illustration.

On the Facebook account jo.cox.180, the date of the marriage of Jo & Brendan Cox is posted as 25 July 2009, which was a Saturday.

This Facebook date of 25 July 2009 is different from the marriage certificate date.

I assume that it was posted incorrectly on Facebook for privacy reasons.

The copy marriage certificate shows the marriage date as 27 June 2009, which was a Saturday.

( Barely out of his twenties and he's a Special Advisor to the Prime Minister ! No wonder the country is in a mess. )

The certificate has been cropped to show the top half only.

All of these details are in the public domain already.

The bottom half of the certificate shows their shared address at the time, their parents' names and occupations, the name and organisation of the Humanist Celebrant, the names and addresses of the two witnesses who were the best woman and best man, whom we already know were Sarah Hamilton and Will Paxton, the date that the marriage was registered, ( Monday ) 29 June 2009 and the signature of the Registrar.

There are no other signatures on the certificate other than the Registrar's. I trust that the Register is signed.

The reason I am posting the top half of the certificate is to prove that the marriage date is recorded as 27 June 2009.

The reason I am posting that is because it is the same date that Wikipedia records the formation date of the Israel supporting, pro Zionist, English Defence League - the EDL.

Wikipedia : English Defence League

Formation : 27 June 2009

So, I consider it entirely appropriate to post that detail, given that we are told that the murder of Jo Cox was done by a "neo Nazi nut job".

From my pov, which I have already stated is, I am sure as I can be from my research and the reasons I have posted that Jo Cox was murdered.

These matching dates add support for that position in that I know this is the same method by which patsies are selected in other scripts which I have studied. My position on this aspect of the script / narrative construction is that they are usually selected in part, on their dates of birth or in some cases, the reported dates of birth may well be invented to suit the script / narrative.

I understand that from the pov of those who may doubt that Jo Cox was murdered and that the entire event was a psyop, it could be argued that these matching dates equally reinforce that position too. I supose the argument being there would be that the "wedding" took place to satisfy the script.

I consider that scenario to be pointless and therefore so extremely unlikely as to be not worthy of consideration.

The fall back position for that pov then being that these dates are just serendipitous and therefore irrelevant.

They are serendipitous of course. Neither event was designed to coincide with the other.

I consider these matching dates to be entirely relevant because imo, they reinforce the "selection" of Jo Cox as the victim and among the main the reasons for the construction of a "neo Nazi / extreme right wing nationalist murderer" narrative.

As I've also said before, I could be wrong on this of course, but I strongly doubt that.

These matching dates are very significant imo.


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Barrisdale/Barisdale is a very remote place, Mark - all the highly educated urban careerists must have had to trek over from Inverie on foot -

guess it was something like this

Sounds awful. The place must be over-run in Summer with these charity and political types from Lonodn in their expensive walking/hiking gear.
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A foundation set up in memory of the murdered Labour MP Jo Cox has been granted charitable status by the Charity Commission.

The Jo Cox Foundation was established by Cox’s friends and family to handle donations made through a fundraising page set up after her death in June.

The first £1.5m raised through the page has been shared among three charities: the Royal Voluntary Service, Hope Not Hate and the White Helmets, which provides volunteer rescue workers in Syria. The remaining £450,000 has gone to the foundation. More than 48,500 donations have been made through the page.

Iona Lawrence, the foundation’s director, told Third Sector the charity would begin by continuing projects that Cox had been involved with at the time of her death...." both at home and abroad"

Lawrence said the charity was not currently actively fundraising, although the GoFundMe page remained open and has been attracting donations.

"We continue to be overwhelmed by the generosity of the public through Jo's fund," she said. "Our focus now is to channel the foundation's part of these funds to harness the goodwill and energy around Jo's life and untimely death."

The charity is expected to launch its first initiative next week. It will contribute to the Commission on Loneliness, a project she was working on with the Conservative MP Seema Kennedy, which is due to be launched the following week.
"website under construction"
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The plot thickens ?

Leaving the "specially selected" alleged Thomas Mair books aside for the moment ... including the esoteric, so-called, "biological anthropologist's" ( aka non Boasian ), green hardbacks ...

and turn our attention to the "specially selected" DVDs, also allegedly from Thomas Mair's collection ...

The Daily Express has the picture in this rather smelly story : "Jo Cox’s murderer was a loner who hid a dark secret"

The obvious "dark secret" being the Daily Express and their feeders, providing their customers with fantasies about Thomas Mair planning to commit matricide because his mum married a black man ... after all those years eh ...

Anyway, that nonsense is not the point, although the "dark secret" could be significant ...

The point is this picture which accompanies the story :

So, we have :

• BBC : The Nazis: A Warning from History

• BBC : Auschwitz: The Nazis and 'The Final Solution'

• BBC : Conspiracy ( "Holocaust narrative" / Nazis "Final Solution" & the Wannsee Conference )

• Film : Schindler's List

• Film : Betrayed ( 1988 )

The first four titles are the predictable, standard mainstream "Nazi / Holocaust" fare, all fitting nicely with the "specially selected books" ...

( although why anyone with half a brain cell who has studied the "holocaust narrative", would want to actually buy and then consume any of the tripe by Laurence Rees & the BiBiC is a bit of a mystery ... mind you, going by the bookcase images, Thomas Mair also paid money to read Lipstadt, so I suppose nothing should be a surprise in this narrative. )

The last title "Betrayed", is a US romance thriller and is not about the Nazis like the rest and neither is it about the "holocaust narrative" ...

It appears to me to be a tad out of place among the other titles ...

Wikipedia says it is based on the terrorist activities of American neo-Nazi and white supremacist Robert Mathews and his group The Order.

OK, so a thriller about an undercover agent's love affair with a neo Nazi / white supremacist ... who just happened to have among his Jewish assassination targets, Morris Dees - co-founder of the SPLC - the same SPLC who instantly supplied those freeze-dried & fraudulent "Thomas Mair delivery receipts" ...

It is described thus :

IMDB : Betrayed ( 1988 )

An FBI agent posing as a combine driver becomes romantically involved with a Midwest farmer who lives a double life as a white supremacist.

Amazon : Betrayed [DVD] [1989]

Product Description

FBI agent Cathy Weaver (Debra Winger) goes undercover to investigate an underground white supremacist group connected to the killing of a controversial radio chat-show host. In the course of her duties she falls for an apparently upstanding family man (Tom Berenger), who, however, turns out to be part of the extremist organisation she has been assigned to uncover.

Review :

The movie Betrayed is a drama romance thriller with it's definitions and boundaries of right and wrong and love and hate which become blurred when the story compels the romantic entanglement with an intensifying relationship of the confused loyalties with an undercover Lady FBI agent, with a matter of duty who slowly discovers the tender caring man's organisation in a shocking expose that unlocks national secrets and burrows deep into the unconscious is also tormented by age old fears, that probes deep into the dark side of America laying open formidable depths of hatred bigotry and violence with these two elemental but very different dreams meet face to face.

In the ensuing personal and political conflict which two lovers try desperately to share each other's lives but end up only destroying each other's worlds whom she loves.

He also has pledged to destroy the ideals and system she has sworn to protect and what began as a matter of duty develops into an irreconcilable affair of the heart, with choices that threaten to betray her most deeply held beliefs and dreams.


Thomas Mair the alleged neo Nazi nut job, allegedly spending so much time surfing the web at Birstall library, the place where Jo Cox the MP held her constituency surgeries ...

Two chaps in a scuffle, then Jo Cox intervening ?

No !

Surely not ...

It can't be ...

Shurely shum mishtake !

It's probably just in there for the usual kabbalistic / referential reasons ...

I'll call The Donald & see if he can ask Vlad to run the usual checks ...

Phew !


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