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Old 06-08-2013, 08:27 PM   #73301
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Default So-Vile, the McCanns, the Ripper

and a "tame" BBC reporter ... FRIGG ME - I'VE OVERLOADED ON INFO! TOO MUCH TEXT, SORRY. IN THE TEXT THO IS MENTION OF: MCCANNS/DANDO/THATCHER/SO-VILE - sorry for "shouting". x

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Jimmy Saville and Gerry Mccann (Links being drawn by the wider internet)

Missing Madeleine :: Madeleine McCann :: Main Maddie News

Jimmy Saville and Gerry Mccann (Links being drawn by the wider internet)

Post Loopdaloop on Sat 3 Nov - 21:34
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Hi All,

I just followed a link from the digitalspy forum (which I still snoop on occasionally) to a thread about Jimmy Saville on the David Ike Forum.
What was interesting is the links that are being drawn to Gerry Mccann. I will try and link the photos but here is the page
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...22773&page=554

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Post interested on Sat 3 Nov - 22:22
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I've always thought McCann must have "something" on higher ups to be able to contact Brown so readily and obtain whatever co-operation was required when they were desperate.

As I said on another post, I had never heard of this guy Savile before (he is not a household name in Canada) but I am sickened not only by what I have been reading about him, but the fact that this does not seem to be news to so many higher-ups who were in a position to put a stop to the abuse.

I does make me wonder if Gerry McCann was 'in the know'; it must have been at least rumoured among certain circles.

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Post dazedandconfused on Sat 3 Nov - 22:36

Loopdaloop wrote:Hi All,
I just followed a link from the digitalspy forum (which I still snoop on occasionally) to a thread about Jimmy Saville on the David Ike Forum.
What was interesting is the links that are being drawn to Gerry Mccann. I will try and link the photos but here is the page
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...22773&page=554

Thanks Loopdaloop. May all these pervs rot in hell..

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Post Not Born Yesterday on Sat 3 Nov - 22:43

I've been wondering too if JS and the McCanns might have had some mutual like-minded friends.

It seems unlikely that anyone other than a few minor players will be rounded up but you never know what might happen. .


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Not Born Yesterday wrote:I've been wondering too if JS and the McCanns might have had some mutual like-minded friends.

It seems unlikely that anyone other than a few minor players will be rounded up but you never know what might happen.


I HAVE BEEN THINKING ALONG THE LINES OF CONNECTION WITH JS,BUT IT SEEMS INCREDITABLE IF THERE WERE SUCH A CONNECTION..

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Post Loopdaloop on Sun 4 Nov - 4:30
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Not Born Yesterday wrote:I've been wondering too if JS and the McCanns might have had some mutual like-minded friends.

It seems unlikely that anyone other than a few minor players will be rounded up but you never know what might happen.


I HAVE BEEN THINKING ALONG THE LINES OF CONNECTION WITH JS,BUT IT SEEMS INCREDITABLE IF THERE WERE SUCH A CONNECTION.

This may be a connection... although it could be tenuous...

Today in the paper it was written about police investigating the links beteen Saville and Sutcliff and whether they were friends before broadmoor
(considering a body was found near savilles home



The son of first Ripper victim Wilma McCann joined the call for a probe into Savile’s relationship with Sutcliffe.
Richard McCann, 42, was five when The Ripper smashed his mother’s head with a hammer and stabbed her 14 times. The 1975 murder was also in Savile’s home city of Leeds but further from the DJ’s flat than the Irene Richardson attack.
Mr McCann said: “If Savile was party to any murder the public and the families of the victims have a right to know about it. It should be investigated. If an expert has said this needs looking into then there should be an investigation into their relationship and I would welcome police findings.”
Mr McCann met Savile weeks before he died — and thinks the cigar-chomping Top of the Pops legend could have had personality traits similar to Sutcliffe’s.


He said: “I found him to be somebody almost lacking in any feelings. He just talked about himself.
“I was going to have a chat with him about my work with young people and maybe get some words of wisdom. But I could not get a word in. I thought this was a person who couldn’t give a s*** about other people. When I think about the way he was with me it’s similar to how I’ve heard the Ripper described when he was interviewed by the police.”
Forensic psychologist Dr Ian Stephen has said he believes Savile was capable of murder as his craving for sex kicks grew increasingly extreme.
Dr Stephen said: “It is possible that he upped the game. There is always that risk with people who are sensation seekers.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...en-linked.html




I've been trying to look up online Richard Mccann's relatives...
(Anyone fancy emailing him to ask?


http://www.richardmccann.co.uk/1975-to-today/ Book Richard McCann now on 07908 944750 or email [email protected] to find out more.)





Richard McCann became a father for the first time this summer. His daughter, Skye, now four months old, was named after the Scottish island his own mother so loved. That the little girl will never know her paternal grandmother naturally grieves him.
More upsetting, however, is the fact that one day he will have to tell her - before someone else does - how her grandmother died. And, equally painfully, how she lived.
Richard was five when his mother, Wilma, was murdered in Leeds in 1975. History has remembered her as the Yorkshire Ripper?s first victim. Her defining, and inescapable, characteristic - writ large in headlines all over the world and repeated ad nauseum for more than 30 year


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...#ixzz2BDl5KbZD



and it turns out his father was Gerry Mccann !




Wilma McCann's son Richard is now a motivational speaker who uses his experience of overcoming the trauma to help others. He has revealed that Wilma escaped to Leeds from her abusive husband Gerry. Following her murder, Richard and his siblings were sent back into his care and faced a horrific ordeal of beatings and abuse both physical and mental. Mention of Wilma was forbidden in the house and the children had to face both constant taunts about her occupation and renewed horror with every subsequent victim that Sutcliffe claimed.
http://www.weirdisland.co.uk/people/...ma-mccann.html


Although a different Gerry, quite often people in families reuse names within their family network!
Tenuous, but If anyone on here that has a subscription to ancestory.com fancies checking out the family tree, Pamalan has a list of names as a good starting block -- >http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/FAMILY.htm

Perhaps we should email Gerry to ask



Dr Gerry McCann

Consultant Cardiologist/Honorary Senior Lecturer
BSc (Physiology/Sports Science), University of Glasgow, 1989
MB ChB University of Glasgow, 1992
MRCP (UK), 1995
Dip.Sp.Med., Scottish Royal Colleges, 1997
MD University of Glasgow, 2002

Tel: 0116 256 3402/3476

Email: [email protected]


Gerry has connections with Leeds General Infirmatory where Jimmy Saville stalked the corridors



Locations
United Kingdom
Glenfield Hospital Recruiting
Leicester, Leicestershire, United Kingdom, LE3 9QP
Contact: Anvesha Singh, MBChB [email protected]
Principal Investigator: Gerry P McCann, MBChB, MD
Leeds General Infirmary Not yet recruiting
Leeds, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom, LS1 3EX
Contact: John Greenwood, MBChB, PhD +44 113 2432799 [email protected]
Principal Investigator: John Greenwood, MBChB, PhD
University of Glasgow Not yet recruiting
Glasgow, United Kingdom, G12 8QQ
Contact: Colin Berry, BSc, MBChB, PhD +44 1413301671 [email protected]
Principal Investigator: Colin Berry, BSc, MBChB, PhD
Sponsors and Collaborators
University Hospitals, Leicester
Investigators
Principal Investigator: Gerry P McCann, MBChB, MD University of Leicester
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01658345



Further relevant links re: leeds and Leicester

1.http://www.mccannfiles.com/id112.html
2. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-20040480

A further link is that Clarence Mitchell was the regional reporter for leeds!



Profile: Clarence Mitchell BBC News

Page last updated at 11:43 GMT, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:43 UK

Clarence Mitchell is back in front of the camera again - this time as the spokesman for Kate and Gerry McCann, the parents of missing four-year-old Madeleine. Former colleague Laurie Margolis recalls his time as a BBC journalist.

My first memories of Clarence were when he joined the BBC as a regional reporter in Leeds.

Then he made it down to London, first on Breakfast News, then as one of the team of reporters who worked for the main news bulletins on national TV and radio.

I was another in that reporter pool in the early 1990s, and it was a difficult time for many of us, because the BBC bosses of that era became obsessed with specialists, people who may well have known their topic, but were often poor at turning that into watchable TV News.

General reporters like Clarence were highly skilled TV journalists, able to get their heads round any subject at short notice. But such people were out of fashion, and I think Clarence found it frustrating.

Nevertheless, he became a major figure in several big domestic stories.

He was closely involved with the Fred and Rosemary West case, where a murderous couple had killed young girls and buried the bodies under their patio in Gloucester.

Royal coverage

He was one of the first reporters to arrive at Gowan Avenue, Fulham in south west London, when the immensely popular BBC TV presenter Jill Dando was shot dead in a murder many feel has never been satisfactorily explained.

And more recently, in a story he worked on right up to the day he left the BBC, Clarence led coverage of the murder of the Surrey schoolgirl Millie Dowler in 2002. The case has never been solved.

Towards the end of his BBC career Clarence became heavily used on royal stories. He was deeply involved in coverage of the post-Diana era and the death of the Queen Mother.

Clarence was also a presenter on various BBC news programmes, and may have been looking to make that the main plank of his career.

But the presenting world is a precarious and capricious one, and he never quite made it.

One night, when I was working through the night, Clarence was presenting hourly bulletins on BBC News 24.

He did the 1am, and the 2am, but at 3am a slightly dishevelled looking producer appeared doing the news. It turned out Clarence had closed his eyes, and had slept through the 3am programme.

Madeleine maelstrom

Clarence left the BBC quite suddenly, making a move into the Labour government as director of its Media Monitoring Unit. His salary was widely reported to be £70,000 a year.

As the Madeleine McCann story exploded this summer, it became clear that a high level of control and organisation would be needed to cope with the media maelstrom.

Clarence was plucked from his job, and sent out to handle the media, rather than be part of the media, on a massive crime story. Now he's left his government job and gone in with the McCanns full-time.

Setting aside the essential tragedy of whatever happened to Madeleine McCann, I would imagine Clarence is content in his new role as the family's voice.

He's centre stage on a huge story, intimately involved as ever, and on television and in the papers all the time.

It was extraordinary how, last week, his intervention seemed to eliminate within hours any misgiving about the McCanns in the British media.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if he gets to tell us Madeleine has been found safe and well?
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id255.html



Another link found is in the following obituary of Gordon Burn, Journalist and author:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obit...rdon-Burn.html



He was also an award-winning novelist, returning in titles such as Alma Cogan (1991) and Fullalove (1995) to his dark recurring themes of death, celebrity, and the celebration of misfortune. “Almost everything I have written,” he once observed “has been about celebrity, and how for most people celebrity is a kind of death.”


Burn spent two years living over a pub in Bingley, west Yorkshire, Peter Sutcliffe’s home town, interviewing everyone he could find who knew him. For a writer who listed “idling in pubs” among his recreations, the book was hard-won and the experience a salutary one.
As an unvarnished Geordie, Burn was able to win the trust of Sutcliffe’s father and siblings, recognising in the family’s working-class culture the signifiers of his own impoverished upbringing in Newcastle, he wove a horrific picture of Sutcliffe’s life and murderous times, tempering the broad strokes of each successive killing with the telling, piercing detail that caused the finished book to transcend the “true crime” genre.


Burn’s ambitious last book, Born Yesterday: The News as a Novel (2008) fictionalised and linked real events that unfolded in the summer of 2007, including the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal and of Tony Blair as prime minister.
With a cast including Kate and Gerry McCann (the parents of the missing child) and their spokesman Clarence Mitchell, who, more than a decade before, had covered the Rose West trial for the BBC, the book was written in six weeks flat,



His subjects are very interesting, To MR Burn they obviously share some sort of link. Anyone read his last book? Perhaps he had some sort of greater awareness!

An interview by Mr Burn's on his book



Reality is always changing. It changes constantly, and as a writer you have to find new ways of capturing the reality

The instant a newsworthy event occurs, it is misrepresented in its reporting – fictionalized, really. The line between reality and its representation has become rivetingly porous.

It was the McCanns’ media literacy, which some people believed sat awkwardly with their assigned public role of grieving parents, as well as their access to wealthy and powerful people, that was interpreted in some quarters as being transgressive – or, at least, worthy of comment – in itself. It was something unexpected and new in the world. Their appointment of an official press spokesman – a ‘spin doctor’ – was another intriguing development.

You wrote a piece in Granta 53 about the trial of Rosemary West in which you say that ‘there was nothing much to see and it was always much the same, but the heavy media presence was in itself justification for having the story high in the running order’. You wrote this in 1996. What sort of watershed do you think that McCann story marked?

The McCanns’ apparently instant decision to use the press rather than be used by it, which included their refusal to appear before the cameras as stereotypical ‘victims’, was riveting to observe. It made Gordon Brown and his cohorts’ naively ill-judged and frequently embarrassing performances in public at around the same time appear even more bizarre.
http://www.granta.com/New-Writing/Interview-Gordon-Burn


and Jon Gaunt has also mentioned the mccann's and sutcliffe together in the same piece!



http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...a-monster.html
EVIL Peter Sutcliffe is making a bid for freedom by claiming his human rights were breached all those years ago when he was found guilty of butchering 13 young women.
Listen up, you piece of filth — if there was any real justice in this country your human rights would be completely academic by now as you would have done the Saddam shuffle straight to the gallows after your trial.
You and your lawyer should both shut up.
I don’t care if you’re mad or bad but as far as I’m concerned your brief is definitely sad, representing scum like you.
Sutcliffe will never be released, so why are we pandering to him and his brief?
Why are we going to waste thousands of OUR money on this nonsense dragging through the courts?
And why does the legal system always seem to fight for the human rights of the monsters in our society and not the decent silent majority?

Brief ... Saimo Chahal
What about the human rights of the women of the UK?
I don’t know how mother-of-two Saimo Chahal can live with herself as she represents Sutcliffe.
I guess she’s got broad shoulders after being crowned legal rights lawyer of the year and having her award presented by Cherie Blair.
Saimo, I bet your children are really proud of you.
WHAT is it with the McCanns? They say they will do anything to help find Maddie but are still dragging their feet over returning to Portugal for a reconstruction of the fateful night when they left Maddie and her twin siblings home alone.
mpu
Sources close to them say they have "serious reservations".
Why? What serious reservations?
Their spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, asks: "What is the value?"
So now this ex-BBC reporter, Government spin doctor and PR man is suddenly Columbo or Morse, is he?
I’m sorry, but let’s remember they are still prime suspects and if the Portuguese plods want them in Portugal they should be there — reservations or not.



Perhaps our friend Jim Gamble should tell us his thoughts...




Former Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP) boss Jim Gamble said Savile’s attitude was similar to other sex offenders in the way he “minimised” and “self-justified” Glitter’s abuse of young children.

Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...#ixzz2BDxEldz8


Yes Jim, that's a very interesting point to make about other sex offenders minimization and self justification...
now talking of someone that minimises and self-justifies on a regular basis...

What exactly did Gerry Mccann's missing CATS File 19309 say!
http://goodqualitywristbands.blogspo...y-mccanns.html

anyhows, after the Maddie went missing kate says (as told by the mirror)



The couple hope that Mrs McCann's book, entitled simply Madeleine, will revive public support and boost their dwindling fund for private detectives to search for their daughter.

It was already a best-seller based on advance sales, having topped Amazon.co.uk's book chart for several days.

The 384-page book, which is dedicated to the McCanns' three children, Madeleine and six-year-old twins Sean and Amelie, includes intriguing insights into the couple's surreal existence in Portugal in the summer of 2007.

Mrs McCann discloses that Cherie Blair phoned her five days after Madeleine's disappearance and warned her: "Whatever happens, your life will never be the same again."

She also recounts the occasion in July 2007 when the late broadcaster Sir Clement Freud, who had a house in Praia da Luz, invited the McCanns around for lunch and broke the ice by offering them a strawberry vodka.


A further link to this here --> http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/...129-and-283-4/ in the online review of the pages of her book.

And..... Clarence Mitchell used to work at Freud Communications which was founded by Matthew Freud, son of Clement and husband of Elisabeth Murdoch, daughter of Rupert. Furthermore... Sir Clement Freud is reportedly one of the MP's about to be outted to the media for child abuse with "over 150 complaints of gross indecency against him, Each one was an individual so they were unable to take it any further"

Sir Clement Freud was also the Grandson of the famous Sigmund Freud, the man who instigated whole schools of thought obsessed by sexual behaviour and we all know his weird perspective on life.

Clement's brother Lucien also had a 'relationship' with the Kray Twins http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/book...#ixzz1xBaMJwWJ

This is all never ending is it.... .... ..... ...... ....






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Great work ldl!

Gordon Burn sounds an interesting man.

I'm not impressed by GMcC's qualifications, so very recent too, considering he could have been a registrar as young as 26/27.

MB ChB is an undergraduate degree in medicine, it translates as a Bachelor of Medicine and Chemistry. To become a medical doctor in the UK you need to study this qualification.

MRCP is Membership of the Royal College of Physicians, a postgraduate medical diploma run by the Federation of the Medical Royal Colleges of the United Kingdom.

In the UK, Ireland and many Commonwealth countries, the M.D. is a postgraduate research degree in medicine. At some universities, this takes the form of a first doctorate, analogous to the Ph.D., awarded upon submission of a thesis and a successful viva. The thesis may consist of new research undertaken on a full- or part-time basis, with much less supervision (in the UK) than for a Ph.D., or a portfolio of previously published work.

Quite a lot of diplomas, MD imo is more like a masters - MPhil. I expect GM used his work on sports medicine (of which I've seen an example and believe me, it's thin) as a thesis, if a portfolio of previously published work will suffice no research is necessary.




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Thanks for all your efforts Loopdaloop. I shall start reading the links soon.

I read a book quite recently by Richard McCann, the son of the first known Yorkshire Ripper victim. It was hard not to smile at the name of his father Gerry and how his mother used to leave him and his three sisters alone while she was out "on business".

The name McCann is so common in Scotland from where the family originated that I'm sure this is a genuine coincidence!

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Post dazedandconfused on Sun 4 Nov - 10:54
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Thanks for all your research Loopdaloop..


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Dont know if already mentioned, cant remember where I read it, may have been Jill's something about a certain person in a certain law firm who had 2 paedos as his facebook friends, I think it was one of those paedos linked to Jimmy Saville on his facebook page. .


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I don't think there can be a problem with mentioning that the lawyer is Edward Smethurst, the in-house lawyer of Brian Kennedy, the windows man and McCann backer.

I don't know anything though about a link between the people on his and Jimmy Savile's Facebook accounts..


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Ive been reading a lot of different forums lately including digital spy, and david icke, so would I think been on there or Jills site..


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He certainly has been mentioned on the JH site in the past but, for legal reasons, a lot of the stuff had to be removed. .


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This is the link

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t57...t-files#129618













http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.n...wider-internet
Clarence Mitchell selected for Brighton Pavilion
Tuesday, July 30 2013
Clarence MitchellBrighton and Hove Conservatives have selected Clarence Mitchell as their Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion in the 2015 General Election.

Clarence, who was born and brought up in London, has strong links with East Sussex having completed his journalism training there in the early 80s, before covering Margaret Thatcher as a local reporter on the Hendon and Finchley Times.

For more than three decades since, he has worked in local and national media, government and the private sector.

A former BBC News correspondent and presenter, he has also worked for the Cabinet Office and Conservative Campaign HQ during the 2010 General Election campaign. He took part in the No to AV campaign, supported Boris Johnson during the 2012 London Mayoral election campaign and canvassed during the Eastleigh by-election. He has three children.

Commenting on his selection, Clarence said:

"Being selected for such an inclusive, diverse, tolerant and culturally vibrant seat as Brighton Pavilion is a huge and exciting privilege. I'm determined to reward the faith that has been placed in me by working tirelessly for all the people of the city, campaigning hard to ensure they not only recover from the failure of Green politics but that they also gain an MP with a strong, distinctive voice in Parliament; one whom they can trust to deliver on local issues. Only a Conservative government will continue to tackle the deficit, reform our welfare system, reduce immigration and give the British people a long overdue referendum on the EU."



AND THERE'S MORE ...


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Americans arrested for child abuse in Czech Republic--Morava Academy under investigation for child abuse By Donna Headrick

Got a Bad little kid? Recalcitrant Teen? Child a chronic runaway? Psychologists and Psychiatrists have failed? Son or daughter underachieving?

A growing phenomenon in the United States has been to send such children to private "behavior modification schools." And the explosive growth in these programs has included programs in Western Samoa, Jamaica, Mexico and the Czech Republic.

Parent contact with their children is closely regulated and parents and children are required to attend a series of "encounter group" type seminars and follow rules established by the programs. In addition, they utilize a "level" system where teens on higher levels act as enforcers with the younger or lower-level teens.

Morava Academy in the Czech Republic opened under the aegis of what is known as the "WorldWide Association of Speciality Programs" in March of 1998. Czech authorities have arrested four staff members including Americans Glenn and Stephen Roach. Mrs. Roach (Glenn) is the director and her husband, Stephen, is the Director of Security. The charges are for violating Czech child protective laws and include having the children lie on the floor with their hands and sometimes feet tied, for extended periods of times. Access to toilet facilities is closely controlled as a means of enforcing discipline and the students may be subject to physical restraint including Handcuffs, pepper spray, mace and cattle prods at the sole discretion of the staff.

Several children were removed by American diplomats making a surprise visit to the school and others are being moved by their families to other Teen Help and WWASP programs.

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Breimon, a former resident of Washington, D.C., was killed in the Czech city of Prague on July 8, 2004. Breimon reportedly had lived in Prague for about five years and The Prague Post reported at the time that Breimon was found bound and gagged on the floor of his apartment. Prague police arrested a suspect who was charged with “robbery resulting in deathrather than murder. Despite initial reports to the contrary, a police spokesperson later told the newspaper that the suspect was not a “rent boy” or prostitute, and that Breimon was killed by a robber who broke into his apartment.

Where was the apartment? In the boat? Is the address including that long stretch of road along the canal or the boat specifically?

Rent boy assertion later conveniently dismissed, stance changed, not murder but accident through 'robbery'.

Who relation wise to him, was trying to 'rob' him then, and what were they trying to rob - if at all. He was bound and gagged.

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"Despite the police statements, patrons at Pinocchio's suspect that Breimon's death was related to a pickup. One male prostitute standing by the bar said he thought Roy had picked up a man at nearby Hlavni nadrazi, the city's main train station. He said looking for prostitutes there is cheaper but more dangerous because many of them are drug addicts.

Peter said rent boys could have been involved in both killings."
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Breimon was killed by robbers who broke into his rented flat at Masarykovo nabrezi in Prague 2 in the early hours of the morning and tied him up, according to police. How exactly he died is unclear from police statements.

Officers say they have someone in custody whom they suspect of "robbery resulting in death" rather than murder, but they will not release the person's name.
http://www.praguepost.com/archivesco...l-society.html
who is the suspect they charged for 'robbery resulting in death'? Was he found guilty?

edit thnx Troy. So it is there. Was it apartment on this boat then?


Well, wherever it is, its spookily close if not the same place exactly. And we know from Prague Post article they are mentioned in the same breath as Grant Russell's murder, 1 of the unsolved murders connected to rent boys, gay scene in Prague, Pinnochio etc, 1 of which was in Spinks' apartments Toucan Travels. Shudder.

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Where was the apartment? In the boat? Is the address including that long stretch of road along the canal or the boat specifically?

Rent boy assertion later conveniently dismissed, stance changed, not murder but accident through 'robbery'.

Who relation wise to him, was trying to 'rob' him then, and what were they trying to rob - if at all. He was bound and gagged.


http://www.praguepost.com/archivesco...l-society.html
who is the suspect they charged for 'robbery resulting in death'? Was he found guilty?

edit thnx Troy. So it is there. Was it apartment on this boat then?

Did a street view, there are apartment entrances and shops on the street. Could have been there in one of the buildings. By the boat which is a fixed restaurant-hotel, there's an apartment across the walkway of Matylda's built into the structure under the bridge.
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Did a street view, there are apartment entrances and shops on the street. Could have been there in one of the buildings. By the boat which is a fixed restaurant-hotel, there's an apartment across the walkway of Matylda's built into the structure under the bridge.
yeah sorry just added this to edit

Well, wherever it is, its spookily close if not the same place exactly. And we know from Prague Post article they are mentioned in the same breath as Grant Russell's murder, 1 of the unsolved murders connected to rent boys, gay scene in Prague, Pinnochio etc, 1 of which was in Spinks' apartments Toucan Travels. Shudder.

I think its bloody him or his cronies/ 'clientele' for sure. Almost positive in fact.

(how long has him partying on these/this boat been reported for - quite a while I think?)

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Roy Breimon wasn't very lucky - he was also stabbed in 1984.

PDF] September 2004 - Outside Link
thesitehub.com/InTowner_archive/2004September.pdf - Cached
3 Sep 2004 ... The Death of Washington Artist Roy Breimon. Well-known Washington artist Roy
Breimon was brutally robbed and beaten in. July 2004 by a ...


His boyfriend in 2003 was another artist - Vaslav Pisvejc, a Czech

http://www.metroweekly.com/domestic_...r/home/?ak=490
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Roy Breimon wasn't very lucky - he was also stabbed in 1984.

PDF] September 2004 - Outside Link
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3 Sep 2004 ... The Death of Washington Artist Roy Breimon. Well-known Washington artist Roy
Breimon was brutally robbed and beaten in. July 2004 by a ...


His boyfriend in 2003 was another artist - Vaslav Pisvejc, a Czech

http://www.metroweekly.com/domestic_...r/home/?ak=490
Woah youre right! Good find!

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Before he was arrested, Willem was known for throwing a lavish birthday party for himself every July on a boat in Prague’s scenic Vltava River. A Prague friend predicts that, this summer, thanks to the inexplicable laxity of the British Justice system, Willem will entertain his ‘annual congregation of paedos’ there once again.
(AND HE DID!- the fact is apparently an 'embarrassment to the british judiciary - well do something then!)
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeeh...ll-on-the-run/

(not another one with a birthday near mine?! That blog post comment said he was out on the boat celebrating last week on the sat I was out! I would have liked to pour my drink over his ugly head)

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Vladimír, an employee of Toucan Apartments, which provides short-term rentals to gay and straight tourists, found Russell’s body when he went to clean the apartment. He would not give his last name, but said Russell was renting the apartment for 14 days and the prostitute had been with him. Vladimír said he suspected Russell had been drugged, but he said the police had not confirmed it.

He said the situation has been very stressful. “It is not nice to find a dead body,” he said. He added that he was afraid the publicity would hurt business.




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Vladimír, an employee of Toucan Apartments, which provides short-term rentals to gay and straight tourists, found Russell’s body when he went to clean the apartment. He would not give his last name, but said Russell was renting the apartment for 14 days and the prostitute had been with him. Vladimír said he suspected Russell had been drugged, but he said the police had not confirmed it.

He said the situation has been very stressful. “It is not nice to find a dead body,” he said. He added that he was afraid the publicity would hurt business.

http://www.originalexpressgaynews.co...leNumber=14768
http://www.metroweekly.com/domestic_...r/home/?ak=490

And these paintings were done by the boyfriend of the artist who did the living room paintings, Vaslav Pisvejc. He's Czech. When he moved to the United States, he didn't speak a word of English, so every day he would read the newspaper to try to learn the language. So on these paintings, this backwards handwriting here is headlines from that day's news.

And here, his boyfriend's paintings are acrylic on Plexiglass. His name is Roy Breimon, he's a Washington-based artist but he lives in Prague for half the year. He paints in reverse layers. I think he once said that that's just how he sees things.
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http://arton5th.com/instructors/roy-breimon/

In 1994, Breimon was called into yet another artistic direction when asked to design the stage and sets for a production of Madame Butterfly at the 172-year-old Meininger State Opera House in Germany. The only American ever to work at the Meininger Opera House,

Meininger is on the way to Frankfurt from Prague.

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The stabbing in 1984 in Dopeys link described as 'eerily similar' to his later death


The Death of Washington Artist Roy Breimon
Well-known Washington artist Roy Breimon was brutally robbed and beaten in
July 2004 by a burglar who broke into his Prague apartment, according to news
reports from the Czech Republic which were published in local newspapers, including the Washington Blade. Breimon, who was in his early 50s, died of his injuries,
cutting short a highly productive career as a painter, set designer, and public policy
analyst.
Breimon studied art and the humanities in Nevada, where he was born, and then
in Mexico City, where he won a scholarship and followed by traveling and living in
Spain, received an M.A. from the Lyndon Baines Johnson School of Public Policy at
the University of Texas in Austin. He was appointed to the Congressional Joint
Committee on Printing by Nevada Senator Howard Cannon and distinguished himself as a professional staff member in the 1970s and 1980s, serving Senators Cannon,
Maryland’s Claiborne Pell, and Charles
Mac. Mathias, Jr. of Maryland.
During those decades, Breimon continued his remarkably eclectic career as a
successful painter on his own time, producing innovative expressionist and symbolic paintings, powerfully colored and
complexly composed on both glass and
canvas (but especially in reverse on glass!)
His career as a set designer was initiated
when he was selected in an open competition for the design and painting of sets
for a new operation production in
Munich, Germany, in the early 1990s.
Roy Breimon’s artistic talent extended
to painting commissioned portraits, traditionally composed landscapes (even if
boisterously convivial) and murals for the
interiors of commercial establishments.
Under the shy simplicity of some of
Breimon’s more popular works was the
deeply humanistic, painterly concern of
an artist seeking always to project what for
him was the authenticity of his own particular talent.
Breimman’s death was eerily foretold in
a very similar stabbing attack he suffered from a burglar in his handsomely restored
Logan Circle apartment in 1984. At that time, he successfully fought off his assailant
and, though seriously injured, he was able to call for help
; the city’s EMS and GW
Hospital’s shock trauma unit saved his life!
Twenty years later, however, Roy was tragically less fortunate.


He, er, suffered from a lot of 'burglaries' didnt he.
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He, er, suffered from a lot of 'burglaries' didnt he.
Rentboy, rentboy;
whatcha gonna do?
whatcha gonna do when they're robbing you?

Don't do what he did.
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Rentboy, rentboy;
whatcha gonna do?
whatcha gonna do when they're robbing you?

Don't do what he did.
Pff think I bloody would Troy!

Sick of this depravity. I may go on some Prague forums with google translate and spread the word of his whereabouts and further shenanigans.
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Where is Logan Circle anyways?
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Breimon studied art and the humanities in Nevada, where he was born, and then
in Mexico City, where he won a scholarship and followed by traveling and living in
Spain, received an M.A. from the Lyndon Baines Johnson School of Public Policy at
the University of Texas in Austin. He was appointed to the Congressional Joint
Committee on Printing by Nevada Senator Howard Cannon and distinguished himself as a professional staff member in the 1970s and 1980s, serving Senators Cannon,
Maryland’s Claiborne Pell, and Charles
Mac. Mathias, Jr. of Maryland.


He, er, suffered from a lot of 'burglaries' didnt he.
Perhaps his unfortunate encounter in 1984, and his even more unfortunate encounter two decades later was connected to his "congressional" activities...which may have continued past the 70's and 80's.
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Perhaps his unfortunate encounter in 1984, and his even more unfortunate encounter two decades later was connected to his "congressional" activities...which may have continued past the 70's and 80's.
Good point. He certainly got around this fellow didnt he! Nepalese government too! This is one hot potato! (sick face not cheeky face)
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Pff think I bloody would Troy!

Sick of this depravity. I may go on some Prague forums with google translate and spread the word of his whereabouts and further shenanigans.
Lyric joke from "Bad Boys" song that was big in America.

He got what he deserved. Don't know how evil he was, but if a guy looking for rentboys doesn't learn his lesson the first time he got stabbed and almost died, then there's nothing to say except "arrivaderci dirtbag"

p.s. googlebooking Sen Howard Cannon's biography. No mention of Breiman, of course.

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Vladimír, an employee of Toucan Apartments, which provides short-term rentals to gay and straight tourists, found Russell’s body when he went to clean the apartment. He would not give his last name, but said Russell was renting the apartment for 14 days and the prostitute had been with him. Vladimír said he suspected Russell had been drugged, but he said the police had not confirmed it.

He said the situation has been very stressful. “It is not nice to find a dead body,” he said. He added that he was afraid the publicity would hurt business.




http://www.originalexpressgaynews.co...leNumber=14768
In The People article from back in 2000 (I think it was 2000) Spinks said then about how safe things were, rent boy wise. Roll forward to Russell's murder and we have Vladimir claiming how dangerous it was, rent boy wise - a total contrast to what Spinks bragged about in the earlier expose of him. A blatant attempt by Vladimir to pin the murder on a rent boy.

Spinks lived at the apartments, had two bodyguards, and no doubt ran the rent boys too. I don't believe for one minute one would therefore be foolish enough to murder a client of Spinks, in apartments owned by Spinks...not unless it was at Spinks behest that is. However you wouldn't shit on your own doorstep would you, not when you're a fugitive- you wouldn't want trouble like that brought to your door...unless you were supremely confident there would be no comback that is.

Incidentally The Sun stated Spinks' "toy boy" Vladimir was 34. Vlad was 32 or 34 in that People article thirteen years earlier so either he's traded that Vlad in for a newer model, also called Vlad or he's got himself a new one and they got the name wrong.

On my work laptop I didn't dare watch the video on The Sun website as it contained graphic material. I didn't particularly want to see a glimpse of that fat rancid pervert's todger, (he's naked on there apparently) but it might have cleared up the Vladimir discrepancy.
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