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Old 06-06-2013, 03:23 AM   #41
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On and for the record I find that taking out the trash reference a threat to me personally please do not make comments like that again, since you can't keep it civil in public.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:52 AM   #42
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They have been hammering the skies with the sprays all week long. This is the first run of days without clouds in a long time so can see them properly. Getting used to seeing 5 or 6 planes at one time filling the blue skies with whatever they are spraying upon us. Circles too yesterday

At the moment they are spraying crazy again, but today the spray is dispersing almost immediately from each plane...Anybody know what this kind of spray is?

Normally, the spray stays and forms lingering clouds but not today. Maybe because of Bilderberg
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:43 PM   #43
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As for Morgellon Disease ... Most people that have this are also suffering from a type of psychosomatic disorder, and when treated with psychosomatic drugs, the symptoms usually go away within a couple weeks.
I'm very curious about this. Have you got any links to any evidence of this? Sounds like yet another Big Pharma scam to me.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:05 PM   #44
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http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/so...evex-0507.html



First of all, who gave NASA God-like powers to release any dangerous substance, anywhere on the planet? Who do these people think they are?

Lithium is widely used in mind numbing drugs.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_%28medication%29

Trimethylaluminum is a nanoparticulate that is extremely toxic to humans, and our surrounding environment.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...,d.aWM&cad=rja

And then we get to the Metal Oxide Space Cloud Experiment. If it sounds like Chemtrails, it is.

Why would there be an experiment to see if metal oxides released into the atmosphere would help transmit radio waves?

It simply an excuse to send up sounding rockets to study the already polluted atmosphere due to the extensive metal oxide release through the blatant Left Hand spiritual killer called Chemtrails. which affects humans not only on the bodily level, but on the spiritual level through the manipulation of natural spiritual signals…

NASA is a true instrument of evil, funded by the very people they are targeting.

And of course, the poor people of the Marshall Islands are no stranger to the US military using them as experiments.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_islands
Despite what many are saying here I too am very concerned about what is intentionally sprayed into our atmosphere. I believe, and yes, it is my opinion, that for every thing they tell us they do there are many more things/test that we never hear about.
What can't be argued is that people and other earthly inhabitants are getting sicker and sicker. Mirror that with the fact that there's not enough of us protesting these things to matter and we have a very serious problem.
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Old 07-06-2013, 01:14 PM   #45
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Bilderberg Chemtrails before The 'No Fly Zone' Starts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbHbwhDt3ug
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The MOD dumped loads of deadly stuff over the UK using planes to spray the stuff between 1940 and 1979.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...medicalscience

Did they stop ion 1979? Did they bollocks !!!!!

"Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.

'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.'

Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.' "

and there you have it...... ongoing "research".
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Old 07-06-2013, 03:18 PM   #47
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The MOD dumped loads of deadly stuff over the UK using planes to spray the stuff between 1940 and 1979.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...medicalscience

Did they stop ion 1979? Did they bollocks !!!!!

"Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.

'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.'

Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.' "

and there you have it...... ongoing "research".
While this maybe true you still fail to acknowledge China as a threat or seem to care much of what they are doing to the environment why is that ?
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Old 08-06-2013, 03:07 PM   #48
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While this maybe true you still fail to acknowledge China as a threat or seem to care much of what they are doing to the environment why is that ?
I have said before many times on here that any foriegn commercially registered airliner flying over the uk could without detection release any amount of toxic shit over the UK in the form of chemtrails.

I have never made any comment on China specifically, so why are you making stuff up what you think I may not have said or may not believe?
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You know its really sad but nothing bloody surprises me in this world any more...its just sick what people are doing to this planet and the people.
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You know its really sad but nothing bloody surprises me in this world any more...its just sick what people are doing to this planet and the people.
We all feel the same way, we have all been lied to by a great extent.
But that is the nature of our world, its built around a web of deceipt.
The web of deceipt (matrix) was manufactured by those who seek to control and destroy us eventually.

This is not a negative answer or a fear driven answer, just the truth as we know it.
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:44 PM   #51
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I was thinking about how those chemicals would get in our water supply and if we weren't breathing it, we'd be drinking it.

Also, was searching around and landed an interesting page on the topic:

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In Charles Little’s book among the notes he writes; ” As it happens, aluminum is a common constituent of forest soils almost every where, but it is locked up in aluminum silicates, and in this compound form is not available to trees and other plants, and therefore is no danger to them. But after acid rains come , the silicates were broken down, and the aluminum was freed to be taken up by trees and plants. The metal kills all roots first, this means that trees can no longer absorb and transport needed nutrients, such as phosphates, calcium, and magnesium-essential fertilizers that are themselves leached away from the soil by acid deposition, The trees are weakened and can be invaded by insects or pathogens or secumb to extremes of weather-or all of the above, in which case they die.” So dead grasses, dandelions, plants, weakened trees, beetles move in. I think years of contrails, and the more recent years of chemtrails has caused this reaction, and our trees are dying from it. Perhaps independent studies void of governmental duress, threats, manipulations, would show this with soil, water, and ring samples. I bet it would.

http://www.onepagenews.com/p/tag/chemtrails/

http://www.stopsprayingcalifornia.co...Chemtrails.php


I thought about my favorite campsite that I camped at extensively about 10 years ago. I'd been away from it a while and when I visited again there were dead trees fallen everywhere. I suppose it was a storm that might have knocked them down, but it was standing dead trees that were knocked down. It ruined the campsite, blocked access to in roads and made huge obstacles to other special areas on the campground. I wondered then why all those trees were dead. What killed all those trees?

When I camped there I saw row after row of chemtrails being laid out in the sky above me, and I thought it was the oddest thing being that the area was so remote with very few humans that could be affected and I couldn't understand why they were being sprayed out there. That was prior to the dead fallen trees and I wonder if there's any link.


From the same page we learn that Monsanto is marketing a new aluminum resistant gene.

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Coincidence that Monsanto will “come to the rescue” with aluminum resistance genes because normal plants die off in the presence of excess aluminum? Or opportunistic capitalism and planned corporate food monopoly courtesy of Monsanto and the Hegelian Dialectic based on insider information that a proposed “geo-engineering” scheme is already in place that is filling our atmosphere with chemtrails containing aluminum and barium?

http://www.stopsprayingcalifornia.co...Chemtrails.php

Even though my thoughts earlier were that we'd ingest the lithium through contaminated water, this puts a new take on it:

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Artificial weather modification through the use of chemicals can impact us by reducing water supplies, causing dry snows, less rainfall, changing agricultural crop production cycles, reducing crop production, and water availability

http://www.stopsprayingcalifornia.co...Chemtrails.php

When the thought came to me about the tainted water, I'd remembered the bit about lithium (because the idea of it had an impact on me) but I'd neglected to register the bit about aluminum from the op, I think because I'd posted about it previously and so I was just absorbing the bit about lithium.
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Interesting.

Check this out.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...cid+rain&hl=en
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The article dates from 1981, seems to me they where in a testing phase back then to bring it on a global level for that perticular poison.
So yes, Never A Straight Answer is obviously an instrument for the cabal.
Not to mention a smokescreen for the real spaceprogram behind that scene.
The poisoningprogram seems to exist for a very long time, tracing it back, with all sorts of poisons... to lay out their vision of the end games.
Just another depopulation program amongst the many, wich all comes down under 1 big agenda combined.

Anyway, if you have the time,saw some good new reports on the tube the other day, wich you might like aswell. I gave 'm a thumbs up. Fits right into this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJcB7yZpbtU (about 1.24 h presentation by doctoral researcher David Lim from Reading University)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lW-TGGlk0 (about 50 min radio interview with Dr. Russell Blaylock)
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I typed out some of that text and put it into search hoping to find a full copy/paste version of that article (to continue reading beyond conceivably damage the fin- ...). I didn't find it but my searching led to another article about aluminum. The trail began here http://chemtrails.cc/ in the comments section:

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Aluminum is a common metal in soils. It is a significant toxin in acid soils (or soils exposed to acid rain) causing stunted roots (no rootlets ergo poor plant health).

Why is aluminum present in off the scale amounts in the Mt. Shasta area?

When a hydro-geologist was shown the tests, he stated, “unless you live near an Alcoa Aluminum plant, there is no way these types of metals (barium has also been detected) should be showing up in your pond or rainwater samples, in any quantity.” The Pit River sample tested at 4,610,000 ug/L, which is 4,610 times the MCL.

Citizens seeking answers to aluminum contamination concerns
The title was hot linked but resulted in a 404 page so I took it to the waybackmachine.

http://web.archive.org/web/201207020...ation-concerns

I also have it posted here for reference.

Interestingly, though the word 'chemtrail' does not appear even once in the article viewers are encouraged to do their own research and start by visiting links to pages which all have information about chemtrails.

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We believe there is enough evidence to warrant an immediate investigation. Our federal, state and county water and air quality officials have a legal and moral responsibility to locate the sources of these contaminants and protect the public welfare. Until more people start to care, begin to speak up and put the necessary pressure upon local and state officials, our children, our loved ones, our animals and eco-systems will continue to be exposed to dangerously high levels of aluminum and other toxic contaminants.
We encourage everyone to do their own research and suggest the following links as a good place to start:

http://www.californiaskywatch.com/; http://americanskywatch.com; http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?...ng+and+drought
When I opened the americanskywatch link I was in for a surprise!

Check it out:

http://americanskywatch.com

American what?

I put that link into the waybackmachine also and got a much different result:

http://web.archive.org/web/201011041...nskywatch.com/


http://www.californiaskywatch.com/ had an old picture of a chemtrail:


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Polaroid Photograph taken by Rosalind Peterson from Road 323 in Oregon on June 17, 1959. Earliest photograph that I have showing a persistent jet contrail. In Mendocino County, California, the earliest known photographs of persistent jet trails date back to 1988.
Which was cool because one page I turned up another page alleging evidence of a chemtrail in 1949 that caused "Acid Rain".

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N 1949 the Herald-Journal reported on a curious case of acid rain.

“The plane let out a small cloud which soon grew into a large cloud, and then the tiny drops of rain began to fall,” Fairbanks said.
http://koenig2099.wordpress.com/2013...otta-see-this/


original source: pg 2
http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...rontpage&hl=en


I searched for evidence of dead trees on Mount Shasta and I turned up an article where residents were reporting dead fish and trees but it was blamed on water bottlers hogging all the water up. My brain's too tired to figure out geographically where the water bottler's are in relation to these residents... like below where they live? On the other side of the mountain where they live? And I wondered why the water bottlers weren't running out of water to bottle being the condition has become so extreme for these residents of Mount Shasta.

For what it's worth:

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OPPOSITION GROWS IN LAKE COUNTY
where long-time residents around Upper St. Helena Creek are alarmed over the impact of extracting 37 million gallons of spring water per year in a deal with Montesol Ranch on Mt. St. Helena's norther slope. The water is trucked south to Nestle's Calistoga plant in Napa Coundty for bottling as Calistoga Mountain Spring Water. The Creek flows down the northern slope and is at historically low levels. For at least four years, area residents have reported that fish and trees are dying. In August the Creek dried up on the lower stretch leaving mud holes and dying fish and crayfish. Families have been forced to buy water storage tanks, truck in water and let vegetable gardens and landscapes go brown.


PANTHER SPRING ON MOUNT SHASTA IS DRY
From the river's first bubbles at springs on the sides of Mount Shasta to its confluence with the Sacramento River, the McCloud River is at the heart of the Tribe's cultural and spiritual traditions.

In early November 2007, the healing spring on Mt. Shasta that is the birth-place of both the Winnemem Wintu people and their ancestral river had dried up for the first time in Tribal memory.



Caleen Sisk-Franco,
Spiritual Leader and Tribal Chief
praying at Panther Spring



http://defendingwater.net/california...ountShasta.pdf
It was reported the the spring dried up in 2007 and the Citizens seeking answers to aluminum contamination concerns article is dated 2009 but it doesn't necessarily rule out chemtrail spraying as a possible culprit.
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I typed out some of that text and put it into search hoping to find a full copy/paste version of that article (to continue reading beyond conceivably damage the fin- ...). I didn't find it but my searching led to another article about aluminum. The trail began here http://chemtrails.cc/ in the comments section:



The title was hot linked but resulted in a 404 page so I took it to the waybackmachine.

http://web.archive.org/web/201207020...ation-concerns

I also have it posted here for reference.

Interestingly, though the word 'chemtrail' does not appear even once in the article viewers are encouraged to do their own research and start by visiting links to pages which all have information about chemtrails.



When I opened the americanskywatch link I was in for a surprise!

Check it out:

http://americanskywatch.com

American what?

I put that link into the waybackmachine also and got a much different result:

http://web.archive.org/web/201011041...nskywatch.com/


http://www.californiaskywatch.com/ had an old picture of a chemtrail:




Which was cool because one page I turned up another page alleging evidence of a chemtrail in 1949 that caused "Acid Rain".



http://koenig2099.wordpress.com/2013...otta-see-this/


original source: pg 2
http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...rontpage&hl=en


I searched for evidence of dead trees on Mount Shasta and I turned up an article where residents were reporting dead fish and trees but it was blamed on water bottlers hogging all the water up. My brain's too tired to figure out geographically where the water bottler's are in relation to these residents... like below where they live? On the other side of the mountain where they live? And I wondered why the water bottlers weren't running out of water to bottle being the condition has become so extreme for these residents of Mount Shasta.

For what it's worth:



It was reported the the spring dried up in 2007 and the Citizens seeking answers to aluminum contamination concerns article is dated 2009 but it doesn't necessarily rule out chemtrail spraying as a possible culprit.
Great stuff as always Yass. I always look forward to your input.
The 1949 article was the same one I used in the 1949 Chemtrail thread.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245890

As usual, it seems to always come fulll circle.
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Old 11-06-2013, 04:32 AM   #57
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OK what is Mount Shasta ? Its still an active volcano so that means springs can dry up with lava movement, as I recall that happened with the big earthquake off the coast of British Columbia no more hot springs there either shit happens at times no one has control over.

What is Mount Shasta made of ? Rocks ? True but what kind ? Basalt and Andesite, really what's in that ? Look it the fuck up.

http://contrailscience.com/skitch/co...508-080746.jpg

Would this be the so called report your talking about ?

Yea it is, so first question the test was take of snow at Ski Bowl in June of 2008 yet the lab never received it until April 2010 is that not a big what the fuck were you doing for 2 years. Oh and it was all but summer near an area that people Skied, this maybe a dumb question but what are Ski's made of these day or back then ?

As for the test I wish it had been a study not one test of dirty snow at the end of winter. See a true study would take samples around the area over the course of a few snowfalls, since I highly doubt your getting at fresh snow in Mount Shasta in June but maybe fresh snowfall was not the point of the test, so what was it ? Was anything else going on around Mount Shasta in June of 08 maybe something like Forest Fires ?

Also a true study would have gone back over the course of months and years neither have been done why ?

Oh and then there is location its up near the Oregon border and in the path of toxic shit comming from China, you can find links in my post I did about China's Air Pollution to a study done by a college in Oregon on tree deaths and a host of many other problems in Oregon and the toxic shit they are finding all points back to where ? OH I am sorry I know its that word no one wants to say around but its fucking China.


@stompk you might want to Google "Rocket Fuel" for the Shuttles it has some very toxic shit to begin with and when mixed it becomes a toxic soup of bad shit. Is it the same thing used in commercial aircraft nope.
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