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So obviously if she thinks Yahweh is a Canaanite God descended from Cain then you must be part of the same 'conspiracy cult'..You agree with everything else
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What I have been arguing with logos about has nothing to do with anyone else and whatever is going on on other threads. Logos wants to justify the death penalty, and call it christian. But in doing that he totally dismisses the christian doctrine the the whole point of their messiah dying for their sins. In some ways, why am I not just letting him blemish the christian religion further, eh? Maybe it's becuase truth is truth, and lies do not lead to a peaceful world. And you just join in and stick up for mr logos because to you it's all about sticking up for christians...how bloody childish. ![]()
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(1) Golden Rule (2) God (3) Jesus That is three very fundamental things make him a Christian. However taking into account different translations, definitions, and personal opinions as the tree branches out then of course slightly different types of Christianity will form. But the three fundamentals definitely make him Christian and its the same in all forms of Christianity and those are the three important things to be christian on a human level. Whether it be good enough in the eyes of God, is between him and God, not between him and Ohme However your black and white outlook in my book makes you no better than a hardcore fundamentalist Christian. You are trying to tell logos that because of his beliefs he is not Christian. I do not care what you call yourself, call yourself the anti-christ, call yourself a Satanist, a Deist, whatever, but what you actually are OHME is a FUNDAMENTAL CHRISTIAN.
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![]() ![]() I didn't say that Yahweh was a Canaanite God descended from Cain. I said that Yahweh was assimilation of the Canaanite gods and those Canaanites were descendants from Cain. I think Blacky better stick to copy and paste, because apparently, that is the only thing that he can actually get right. Also, I have proof on my side... "Other deities worshipped at Ugarit were El Shaddai, El Elyon, and El Berith. All of these names are applied to Yahweh by the writers of the Old Testament. What this means is that the Hebrew theologians adopted the titles of the Canaanite gods and attributed them to Yahweh in an effort to eliminate them. If Yahweh is all of these there is no need for the Canaanite gods to exist! This process is known as assimilation." http://www.theology.edu/ugarbib.htm |
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So I don't know where you get your aweful logic from, but you should be asking logos the same questions, about how he manages to fit this noahide law into : (1) Golden Rule (2) God (3) Jesus anyway, what are you his spin doctor? It's obvious anything goes for you. by why does it irk other christians here, who feel you are making christianity a free for all? We're not talking about a christian having the right to like the colour blue, or vote labour. Unless logos is another obstinate person and won't budge from his bs, he will have to face more criticism over his lies that the noahide law applies to christianity. As I said, and I am not making up any conspiracy, there are seven laws in that case, all carryring the death penalty. And if one accept these laws from yahweh, then we have hell on earth, to add to the murders and abortions that will still happen until we learn to eradicate their occurance correctly, by the application of this golden rule you don't have a clue about either..
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And yes, Yahweh is an abbreviation of a sentence about El, the chief god of the Canaanite pantheon, either yhwh-'l or "El-Yahweh", meaning "El who shows himself", paralleling "El-Shaddai" and "El-Elyon".[12] According to this theory the element el has been dropped, leaving -yhwh alone, and El-YHWH is still attested in a few places in the Old Testament (in Psalm 50:1, for example). However this 'rubbish' that this is some 'revelation' is simply ridiculous sensationalism from another conspiracy disinformation site mixing hard truths with lies. It is absolute conspiracy that any names where merged to eliminate them. They did not exist anyway and are only 'names'. There is only one ultimate entity and the name given is Yahweh. So therefor if anything, Yahweh was 'stolen' by Canaanites. Now please, show me where Canaanites descend from Cain, when Noah was the landlord of Canaan, and Noah was not descended from Cain And anyway H4E1, i do not know if you are aware, but the site you got your information from is a Church of Christ website LOL Have you saw the light or something? Quartz hill school of theology (Christian website) http://www.theology.edu/becomeachristian.html I suspected all along we where dealing with Fundies in disguise
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Also H4E1, this argument you are arguing is nothing new.
Infact the argument has been going on since Pagan times. If you actually believe the versions you do then you are what is known as a 'Pagan, pre Adamite'. However in a bizarre twist of fate the very argument you support was kick started by White Supremists whom tried to say that 'Cain' got cast down to that of a Mongol and that his descendants became black slaves to the white people that where here before Adam. "During the Age of Enlightenment pre-Adamism was adopted widely as a challenge to the biblical account of human origins, whereas in the nineteenth century the idea was welcomed by advocates of white superiority. A number of racist interpretive frameworks involving the early chapters of Genesis have arisen from pre-Adamism. Some Pre-Adamite theorists held that Cain left his family for an inferior tribe described variously as "white Mongols". Pre-Adamites also claimed that Cain took a wife from one of the inferior pre-Adamite peoples. The idea that Cain’s mark was blackness arose in 18th century Europe and was also popular in 19th century America.[7]" Therefor H4E1, and in the words of your buddy 'ohme' you cant believe one without the other, can you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Adamite Also no archaeological evidence whatsoever to support a God called Yahweh in Canaan. Although there is a bit to suggest a hint of a Deity named 'Yahu'. It seems as though 'Yahu' may have been an equivalent to Yahweh, but NOT the same http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh_(Canaanite_deity)
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If you want to present a decent argument then why not show him 'law number 20 of the Mitzvot' which was 613 laws in the same law book as the 10 commandments that the Noahide law. Law 20 states- Do not take revenge Now this in no way suggests Logos is not a Christian, and it still does not mean that the government exerting Gods law cannot have capital punishment. However what it does mean is that a citizen should not take revenge, and a punishment for a crime should be carried out in a court of law. However would this not at least be a better argument?
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Because that has to be the way to try and get through to mentally challenged simpletons like logos and yourself I suppose. You and logos are both full of BS. Anyone else? Depends if they beleive the noahides are christians I guess.
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Shall we just walk away and let a blatant liar come out as the truthful one? Is this what the david icke forum stands for?? Where's the other six laws logos? You can't just pick one of Yahweh's laws.
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You are proving the idiocy of trying to believe a book from cover to cover, because here we see a case of only a fragment of the whole covenet being discussed in Genesis, and a silly wannabee christian trying to say that the other laws weren'tgiven by the same Yahweh. And if they were, then you are completely hipocritical to only accept some of them. As it is, there are seven of these laws, and they all carry the death penalty. So can you live up to these seven laws? also, using just the blood for blood law that Yahweh ordered, you clearly believe murder requires the death penalty. This has to include, nowadays, abortion. So yes, another great reason why some wannabee christians are full of shit. Your deception is only deceiving you at the end of the day, and other cretinous part-timers that will go along with you only because they don't like non-christians, and think you're a poor christian being picked on. ![]() This is more reason to known that Yahweh and Jesus are complete strangers to each other. Yahweh wants the blood of all the sinners, to be executed along with the laws he gives man. Not just murder. Adultery too. No doubt homosexuals will need to be executed under Yahweh's laws. Pedos obviously, unless a priest can show that God has granted him a child to play with.
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