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Old 16-11-2017, 04:21 PM   #4
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You seem to be shaping God as a "personal, hands on,
I do so just because that is what many theists believe. I have to use their ball if I want to play in their ball park.

In Gnostic Christianity, God is a hands on kind of God but we recognize that we are the only God we can ever know and for sure we should be hands on as all of us create our own version of God and should all act upon that view of the God that we ourselves create.

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I'm interested in the affairs of Humans" kind of being.
So am I but do not distinguish between man and God as we are the Gods.

Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."


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In my opinion, if you believe that to be the case, then yes that type of God would be immoral. But who say's that God has this type of character? I believe that the first book written about the life of Jesus was approx 75 years after his death? And so the books and accounts that followed are much older. How accurate would we consider these accounts to actually be?
0 literal accuracy. I think quire a bit from the esoteric allegory view.

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I would suggest that anyone writing an account 75 years after the event would have problems being accurate about a persons life, let alone 100 years and more. Where does it say in the collection of these accounts collectively known as "The Bible", does it say that Religions must be created? I don't believe it does, not anywhere. I think it fair to say that religion is 100% Human made, and to serve the needs/desires of the ruling elite.
I agree on accuracy and your last here. The ruling and elite should be served if they are doing their duty and serving the masses. If not, they should be ignored or deposed for a leader with the benefits of the masses in mind.

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It is my personal opinion that a greater power does exist in the Universe, but I don't believe for one second that it concerns itself about Human activity.
Your fist is natural as even children to indoctrinated in any belief system exhibit that trait. Your last is obvious to any what see the natural world accurately.

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It does what it does, it creates and destroys things, beings, planets, stars, etc. Apart from this, I have no idea of what it's character is, even if it has one, and I wouldn't presume to know. As I have stated before in another post, I / we will only know the truth about life and death shortly after we take our last breath. Maybe there is something after psychical death, and maybe there isn't.
Realistic, and we should all think realistically.

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I for one will not take the writings at least 75 years after the death of a man, and two thousand years after a significant event as a given, if others do, then that's their prerogative, and if you wish to judge a personal god as immoral, and you buy into these accounts, then I believe that you are just trying to give credence to a man made fairy tale
Yes. Which it is.

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