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Old 24-03-2011, 12:22 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by andyh View Post
Of course there'll be pubs and clubs, nothing much changes really.
For a long time everything stays as is anyway. Its just about people turning in to work for no money.
What would motivate someone to clean puke off the floor of a pub or club?

Everything will be free eventually, how does that stop some people, or many, from getting rat-arsed all day, we have that now, if alcohol is free, society will collapse.
How does it stop people getting into cars, racing them, smashing them up, getting another for free and doing the same? Is that allowed/possible?

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People can live in cities or towns or villages or a farmhouse out in the countryside as per normal and all be a part of it. The difference is you get to choose what you want to do TVP is not about putting everyone in jetsons domes, I've been through all that before on the forum with Steevo.
Do we all get the finest home possible? Who gets the first ones built?

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The whole point to anarchism is that people either learn to co-operate or do things for themselves without being told to do so. The guiding force or "hidden hand" in this case is allowed free reign instead of authority and people work towards a better future. Science and tech for example will no longer be steered in a direction that promotes the profit motive alone.
In theory that sounds great, ideologicly, people are different, even under TVP this will still be the case, albeit less, at some point humans are going to want to do things their way, see life their way, which will be different to others ways, this will cause natural human division as we have today all over the world, you can't then dicide to dictate how people think and behave, thats why we have a voting system, albeit taken advantage of by idiots.

TVP has many great ideas, it just doesn't take into account human differences. Peter and his supporters only tell us the answers to things they can back-up, they ignore everything else.

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