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Old 04-03-2008, 11:21 PM   #20
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onight, I'd like to talk about perceptions and logic, and how we arrive at what we think are our conclusions. Conclusions are reached through comparing personal experience, education, indoctrination, learned behavior against new events, really. The trouble with this type of arrival at the conclusion is that if the erroneous indoctrinations are to the front, and if the current trends of the day (which are often massive propaganda) are to the fore, we will arrive often at someone else's erroneous conclusion.
We do live in a world of mass DIS-information; mass DIS-information, which is sometimes put out on purpose. Other times, it's done by people who, themselves, have been caught in erroneous conclusions; and always remember, because something is said often, doesn’t mean it's true. We have a tremendous tendency to go into the past; and this is a happening, an occurrence that happens towards the end of an age. Philosophers and historians know this. They know that when you go through history from very early times and you see the rising of what they call "civilizations"—which really is a form of monied commerce rule with the creation of armies and the building of ultimately empires—and then watching those things which occur when empires crumble and fall.

Empires tend to crumble and fall when they run out of enemies; then there is tremendous class warfare. The class warfare always ends up with an elite and a middle class (which is really the helpers of the elite) that are trying to eradicate, eliminate the lower classes through standard methods, which keep getting repeated down through history.

When Rome fell, for instance, the Roman Empire, there wasn’t simply a matter of invasions from outside. The Roman Empire lived like all empires ultimately do, on massive taxation, not only of their own people, but also of the conquered countries they had gone into. When they reach a zenith, the peak of their power, they then begin to degenerate through massive corruption; and greed is addictive. There's never enough. It's like cocaine. The first high is the best, supposedly, and everything else is on a dwindling scale, regardless of the quantity they use. Greed is the same, so is the hype for sexual fulfillment. It becomes deviant during the deviant period of the downfall.

Rome also fell because it had taxed all of its dominions (the conquered countries) into utter poverty, in order that the ultra elite in Rome could not only continue at a high standard of living, but go into it—It's amazing, its utterly amazing perversions of what we would term "luxury." Ever expanding, massive pools and idol-making just for admiring at parties and that kind of thing. Big shows, massive parties, that was part of the reason it fell. Part of the reason it fell, too, was that they'd taxed the rural peoples who supplied them with everything they need: food, materials, items which were made and so on, that they all went in to the city, which technically produces nothing except debt and ultimately perversions in its later stages. The rural peoples rose up to help finish it off when they'd had enough. They had no choice in the matter. These sequences are always repeated down through ages, and yet, the elite of each period don't perish. They move. Very often, they move before the country or the city in which they reside falls, and they've already set-up the next beginning, the embryo of the next empire.

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