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Old 25-12-2017, 09:28 PM   #3
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The Roman Piso conspiracy theory debunked
The Roman Piso theory is a pseudohistorical theory of the origins of Christianity. It states that a conspiracy of well-educated Romans — the Piso family — wrote the New Testament, and particularly the Gospels, as a social control mechanism. Its advocates call it "The New Classical Scholarship". Nobody else takes it seriously.[1]

The theory originated in Bruno Bauer's Christus und Caesaren (Christ and the Caesars) from 1877, which claimed that that the Romans had authored the New Testament and that Josephus Flavius was the inventor of Jesus.[2]

The Pisos are also claimed to have invented the Christian calendar,[3] rather than it having been proposed around 525 and adopted in the 800s.[4]

Joseph Atwill,[5] in Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus, claims that the events of Jesus' ministry in the Gospels parallel the military campaigns of Titus Flavius in Josephus' Wars of the Jews. Atwill's theory is based on Bible Code-style pareidolia applied to the four canonical Gospels (ignoring the forty-plus others) and apparently only in English translation (his claimed puns don't work in the original Greek). Conspiracy connoiseurs will delight at Atwill's explanation:[6]

How could this go unnoticed in the most scrutinised books of all time? "Many of the parallels are conceptual or poetic, so they aren't all immediately obvious. After all, the authors did not want the average believer to see what they were doing, but they did want the alert reader to see it. An educated Roman in the ruling class would probably have recognised the literary game being played."

Other proponents include Abelard Reuchlin (the "Abelard Reuchlin Foundation" used to sell his 1979 pamphlet The True Authorship of the New Testament on the subject in the newspaper small ads; he invented the supposed kingpin of the conspiracy, Arrius Calpurnius Piso), James Ballantyne Hannay and Jay Gallus, and an author who writes as "Roman Piso" (John Duran, who used to advocate this theory on Usenet).[7]

A decent takedown of this nonsense is here:
A longer one here:
And Richard Carrier knocks it out of the park here:
It's people like this that give Jesus mythicists a bad name.

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Gaius Calpurnius Piso was a 1st century Roman senator, who gave his name to the actual Pisonian conspiracy, a plot to usurp Nero. This had nothing to do with religious works over in Judea.
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil (TROUBLE FOR THE WICKED): I the Lord do all these things." - Isaiah 45:7
God is pure and does not approve of evil. The word "rah" (evil) in Hebrew does not mean evil in the moral sense. Contextually, when God speaks of creating evil, he is speaking of the calamities that he brings upon the enemies of his purpose.

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