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Old 11-02-2019, 10:29 AM   #28
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ok so lets break this down

like i said: where in the world is there an instrument exactly like the highland bagpipe?

read this quote from your own article:

''Whilst historians can only speculate on the actual origins of the piob mhor, or great Highland bagpipe, it was the Highlanders themselves that developed the instrument to its current form, establishing it as their national musical instrument both in times of war and peace.''

also read this quote from your article which basically admits that the writer doesn't know the origins of the highland bagpipe:

''Some historians believe that bagpipes originate from ancient Egypt and were brought to Scotland by invading Roman Legions. Others maintain that the instrument was brought over the water by the colonising Scots tribes from Ireland.''

ie they don't have a frickin clue

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This article says that because the historian making the claim could not find a literary mention of haggis in scotland before a certain date that it could not have existed in scotland. it even mentions robert burn's 'address to a haggis' as an example of a literary mention in the 1700's

But robert burns was recording scottish culture that was ORAL. Scotlands gealic culture was an ORAL culture not a written culture. Burns lived on the cusp of change where language was shifting from an oral culture to a written culture and he started recording many songs that until that point had existed as living music coming directly from peoples minds and not from a sheet of paper

That there is no literary mention of a peasant food prior to the advent of widespread literary writing is not proof that the dish did not exist especially as a peasant dish which the literate or semi-literate fuedal elites may not have themselves eaten

lets also consider that celtic kingdoms existed in what is now called england

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Origins of tartan:

https://celticlife.com/the-history-of-tartan/

So the Jocks have nowt original, lol
your article does not say that the clans haven't woven plaid for centuries. It just says that the rash of modern, bright tartans have not always been around

Prior to that most clans would identify themselves by a plant worn often in their cap NOT by a certain pattern of tartan. They were however weaving plaid and wearing that as a kilt. The jacobites who formed a union of clans took the white rose as their symbol often symbolically represented (in the absence of living white roses) as a folded ribbon worn in the cap
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