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Old 29-01-2012, 11:29 AM   #37
johngr
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Originally Posted by nirvana View Post
No but 100 of thousands die every year because of it. Once a drug becomes legal its availability becomes much more wide spread .Imagine if heroin and crack became as widespread as alcohol.
Would it be easier or more difficult for minors to get if it were legal or illegal?

So 100.000s of people die from it. Your point? Tell that the the man who loses his son because some thug cops raid the wrong house. Tell that to the guy for whom the natural course of his addiction would have been to realise at 28 that he's wasting his life, knock it off, go back to uni, get a job, start a family, etc, but instead he gets shanked in prison or shot in an alcohol deal gone bad?

There is a stigma to using drugs that is not present with alcohol. Alcohol is embedded into the main culture whereas drugs use is a subculture, particularly the harder drugs. Removing prohibition would not change this, particularly providing there were some kind of ban on advertising.

WHICH IS WORSE FOR SOMEONE, TAKING HEROIN (that is, unadulterated heroin, diluted to a standard ,2 mg. per cc of sterile water) OR SERVING FELONY TIME?

I can't imagine Sven Svensson's in any large numbers quitting their jobs at Ericsson or Volvo, abandoning their families and to become heroin addicts. Can you? A certain fraction of the population is going to have problems with substances whether they're obtainable on the black market or at the store on the corner. Most of them will grow out of it.

The ones whose addiction causes them to commit crimes with victims are manageable (and in the case of certain drugs, even more so than alcohol). But what we are talking about is a marginal (if any) increase. You have to weigh that against the awful price paid for the "drug war", victims of crimes due to the higher black market price, policing/incarceration costs of non-violent offenders and loss of taxes from them, police corruption, violence for turf wars, ever increasing and encroaching police state, etc.

Prohibitionists tend to magnify the increase in direct drug problems that legalisation would cause and to minimise the horrendous costs that are directly due to drugs laws and enforcement. Remember, too, that the people who would be using drugs if they were legal are people who aren't using them because they are illegal and most of them presumably already drink and most of the ones whose use would be addictive already use alcohol addictively-- so they would not increase the total of society problems due to substance use but merely switch from one drug to another (in many cases less harmful, btw.)

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